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A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Total Gadha - Friday, 15 Fe bruary 2008, 03:27 PM

As C AT 2008 preparation starts heating up, I am going to flag the race with an oddball topic: Alphametics. What are alphametics or cryptarithms as they are also known? Alphametics are number puzzles in basic arithmetic operations where digits are represented by alphabets. It is customary that different digits are represented by different alphabets. Why are alphametics relevant? Because they require a good knowledge of properties of numbers and skill in working with them. Solving alphametics helps you quickly identify solution to many problems which might otherwise require a good amount of time. Let me give an example:

C an you solve this problem without any hit or trial method?

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I am afraid I shall have to end here and leave the rest of it for my CBT Club students. I shall cover some problems based on this in the CBT Club this week.

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Anshum an Bhar - Friday, 15 Fe bruary 2008, 05:56 PM

Hi Tg, The se days I am busy solving ur num be r syste m proble m s...jss now I saw this article ..m an u rock .... I m st say ve ry ve ry use ful de dicate d we bsite is this for C AT.....I hope I ge t through C AT this tim e ...thank s a lotzz TG
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Total Gadha - Friday, 15 Fe bruary 2008, 09:31 PM Thank s Anshum an
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by jai prak ash - Friday, 15 Fe bruary 2008, 11:00 PM THANKS A GO O GLE O F TO N FO R THIS ENLIGHTMENT. If i m ak e it to a top MBA institute 80% of the cre dit goe s to ur support n inspiration. EXPEC T MO R E 4M U.
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by PR IYANKA KESHR I - Saturday, 16 Fe bruary 2008, 03:10 PM hi!!!!!! tg .. joine d ur forum a fe w days ago... ur a ultim ate ge nius m an... supe rb article ... just k e e p the good work on and we will sure ly be ll the cat this tim e ... thanx a m illion for ur supe rb m aste rpie ce
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by PR IYANKA KESHR I - Saturday, 16 Fe bruary 2008, 06:11 PM hi!! just tried out ur posted problems.. got my ans as 1)1089*9=9801 2)25*25=625 3)???? hey dont know wats the r8 one... kindly post the ans wid ur mindblowing solns.. and any clues 4 the 3rd one.. i am not getting it..
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Total Gadha - Saturday, 16 Fe bruary 2008, 08:51 PM Hi Priyank a, W e ll done . W ill post the solution to the third one afte r othe rs have also trie d. Total Gadha
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by santane e l pyne - Saturday, 16 Fe bruary 2008, 10:13 PM 76211 + 76211 + 8592 = 161014

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by gO d's chILd!! - Sunday, 17 Fe bruary 2008, 01:04 AM gud m orning sir; 78011+78011+5390=161412

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pls le t m e k now if i'm wrong..!
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by gO d's chILd!! - Sunday, 17 Fe bruary 2008, 01:17 AM santane e l i think we ne e d to assign diffe re nt value s to H and l tHre e =76211(H=6) + tHre e =76211(H=6) + four=8592 =e Le ve n=161014(L=6)

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by PR IYANKA KESHR I - Sunday, 17 Fe bruary 2008, 01:41 AM thanx TG sir u have booste d up m y m orale !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by bim al m ohan - Sunday, 17 Fe bruary 2008, 09:20 AM Third one : 84011 +84011+3590 =171612
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by santane e l pyne - Sunday, 17 Fe bruary 2008, 05:51 PM yah! ur right, i got it wrong
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Total Gadha - Sunday, 17 Fe bruary 2008, 07:30 PM

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Prate e k Agarwal - Tue sday, 19 Fe bruary 2008, 07:56 PM Thank s TG...that was re ally he lpful
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Harpre e t Singh - Monday, 25 Fe bruary 2008, 10:55 PM Hi, Do the third que stion has m ultiple solutions. W e ll thank s for such a gr8 e x e rcise . R gards, Harpre e t

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Avishe k C hak ravarti - Thursday, 28 Fe bruary 2008, 11:24 PM Ye s 83211+83211+4592=171014 ANO THER SO LUTIO N

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Re: A lphametics- The A by avinash gupta - Friday, 29 Fe bruary 2008, 01:23 PM he y that was a gre at insight into num be rs...but the rs a sm all glitch..whe n u e lim inate d num be rs(TW O *TW O =THR EE)11,55,99 ur argum e nt was that the te ns digit of the square in ne ve r odd e x ce pt for 6...but the re 's a possilblty of a carry ove r re sulting in a odd num be r right?? the m e thod u sugge ste d was im pre ssive on the surface ....i alwasy find it difficult to fathom out whe n it com e s to such k ind of proble m s..
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Re: A lphametics- The A by Total Gadha - Friday, 29 Fe bruary 2008, 04:50 PM hi Avinash, I re pe at, "the te ns digit of a pe rfe ct square is always e ve n e x ce pt whe n the unit digit is 6 in which case the te ns digit is odd." C arry or no carry. Try it out. Total Gadha
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Nave e n Nave e n - W e dne sday, 5 March 2008, 12:48 PM Hi TG, Thank s for your e fforts, i have just starte d on this site ...i m e an re plying... I am solving the proble m you are posting...but can you te ll m e whe re do u post the solution...do you post the m on this thre ad it se lf or is the re is any othe r thre ad for posting solutions? Thank s
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Prashant C hanchal - W e dne sday, 5 March 2008, 01:17 PM Hi The third one se e m s to have m ore than 3 (May Be 100s!) of possible solutions! I cam e up with: 78011 +78011 + 5390 ------- 161412 ------W ould re que st TG to post the solution (fe w) with prope r logic as in how to go about this one !
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Sre e de vi PV - Thursday, 6 March 2008, 12:58 PM He llo TG, The article rock s. got to k now lot of sm all things ...... Thank s a lot....
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Jaide v Nair - Tue sday, 11 March 2008, 03:07 PM He y ple ase te ll m e what was your appraoch lik e ....its tak ing too long to solve
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Jaide v Nair - Tue sday, 11 March 2008, 03:08 PM He y ple ase te ll m e what was your appraoch lik e ....its tak ing too long to solve
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by m anish jain - Monday, 17 March 2008, 07:16 PM hi
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by gane sh ram - Sunday, 10 August 2008, 10:58 PM

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HA TS OF TO UOU TG................ WHA T A A RTICLE IT IS.............
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by MBA C rAck e r - Thursday, 14 August 2008, 09:58 AM Ple ase write the solution of the third Q ue stion(THR EE + THR EE + FO UR = ELEVEN), My approach se e m s to be a bit longe r
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by rick pate l - Saturday, 16 August 2008, 04:12 AM I don't want 2 say this but u really r TOTAL GADHA.....awesome post n awesome methods.... U simply rock man...
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Vaibhav Gayak e - Tue sday, 19 August 2008, 02:00 PM Please post the answer for the third question.(Stepwise Approch)

Regards,

Vaibhav

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by ajay singh - W e dne sday, 20 August 2008, 10:35 AM Ve ry good site . Ajay Singh Mum bai
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by pre e ti jha - Thursday, 21 August 2008, 12:28 PM

Hi TG, Nice approach...You are doing a grt job!! Please provide some more sums...and also the solution to last one. Regards, Preeti
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by ank it m ahajan - Friday, 22 August 2008, 02:10 PM can som e body e x plain the be low C AT 2001 que stion

Q.25 Ram has 128 boxes with him. He has to put atleast 120 oranges in one box and 144 at the most. Find the least number of boxes which will have the same number of oranges. 1) 5 2) 6 3) 103 4) Cant determine.
(re ad som e whe re that it involve s pige on hole principle ) TG can you be k ind e nough to e x plain the que s and Pige on Hole funda and how it applie s he re ..
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by de e pa awasthi - Friday, 22 August 2008, 08:28 PM He y I m ust say..quite a use ful article ..thank s a ton for he lping us all MBA aspirants
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Aashish Dua - Friday, 29 August 2008, 01:14 AM

Hie TG Sir, An awesome article once again. Thanks Sir


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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by ne ha prasad - Saturday, 6 Se pte m be r 2008, 09:04 PM Supe rb article .....Thank s a lot
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by ravi m r. - Thursday, 16 O ctobe r 2008, 05:13 PM ABC D x 9 = DC BA Sol: 1 0 8 9 X 9 9 8 0 1 AH X AH = BAH Sol : 2 5 x 2 5 6 2 5 T H R E E T H R E E + F O U R E L E V E N SO L: 5 7 2 1 1 5 7 2 1 1 +6 8 9 2 1 2 1 3 1 4
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by ravi m r. - Thursday, 16 O ctobe r 2008, 05:23 PM ABC D x 9 = DC BA Sol: 1 0 8 9 X 9 = 9 8 0 1 AH X AH = BAH Sol : 2 5 x 2 5 = 6 2 5 T H R E E + T H R E E + F O U R = E L E V E N SO L: 5 7 2 1 1 +5 7 2 1 1 +6 8 9 2 =1 2 1 3 1 4
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by R ajak annan R - Sunday, 15 March 2009, 06:28 PM Hi Tg sir, Soln for 3rd que stion 74611 + 74611 + 2096 = 151318..Is it corre ct? Is the re any good approach to solve this prob? I did it by trail n e rror..
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by prachi joshi - Friday, 20 March 2009, 04:02 PM sir can u pls e x plain the third one
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Pranav Baj - Monday, 30 March 2009, 02:16 PM gre at job m an thnx for e nlighte nin
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by k rd sh - Saturday, 3 O ctobe r 2009, 05:40 PM ABC D * 9 = DC BA = 1089*9 = 9801 AH * AH = BAH= 25 * 25 =625. How? W e have to find a pe rfe ct square that re sult in last two digits be ing the sam e as the num be rs AH. The re are only thre e num be rs. 1*1=1, 5*5 = 25 and 6*6= 36 out of which only 5*5 only satisfie s the solution. THR EE + THR EE + FO UR = ELEVEN 78011+ 78011+ 5390= 161412 ABC D * 4= DC BA = 2178* 4= 8712

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Pallav Jain - Saturday, 3 O ctobe r 2009, 07:28 PM hI tG, hATS oFF
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by De e pak Gautam - Monday, 5 O ctobe r 2009, 04:19 AM Hi, T.G Thank s for the good que stions, C re dit should also go to "Software Engine e r" too. Se e the "God of sm all things" thre ad in Q uant forum . that's what we call congre gation of thoughts and Ide as pouring from diffe re nt side s and shade s. hats off to ur e fforts T.G. Thank s De e pak Gautam (A.k .a C hill Pill)
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by De e pak Gautam - Monday, 5 O ctobe r 2009, 04:15 PM C orre ction:the thre ad was Sk e le ton in the Proble m Solving C lose t by quant ghost.
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by The Gam e - W e dne sday, 11 Nove m be r 2009, 05:14 PM 1) 1089*9=9081 2)25*25=625 3)
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Ajay Sharm a - W e dne sday, 11 Nove m be r 2009, 11:48 PM Hi Sir, C an u pls provide the solution for 3rd one (Ste pwise ) I m not able to ge t the le ad afte r ge tting E=1 and U=9
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by vik as k hanna - Tue sday, 17 Nove m be r 2009, 11:54 AM

que s.tx t plz look it on this que stion..


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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by am ar goswam i - W e dne sday, 18 Nove m be r 2009, 12:08 AM pi + psi + gam m a = sigm a e ach alphabe t rapre se nt a digit be twe e n 0-9.ge tting i as 0 or 5. i got no othe r way but hi and trial... sir plz he lp m e out... if the re is any m athe m atical approach to solve this proble m .. Hi Vik as, Ple ase find the solution to ur proble m be low: pi psi +gam m a -----sigm a

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-----70 + 730 + 29449 = 30249 i.e . 70 730 +29449 -----30249 -----it can be infe re d from que stion that m ax im um carry which can go from i to g is 1 he nce g + 1 = s ------- (i) again since p + m <20 always he nce m ax im um carry which can go from g to a is 1 i.e . a + 1 = i which im plie s a =9 and i=0 be cause 9+1 = 10, he nce we ge t i =0. Now it is cle ar that unit digit of sum of p+s+m com e s as m he nce p+s+m = 10 + m (only possibility) --------- (ii) also p + m = 10 +g (since it has to pass one carry to a) ------ (iii) from above thre e e quations we ge t m =2g and m =2s - 2 g can tak e value from 1 to 4 and g =2 give s the re sult. Thank s Am ar
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by vik as k hanna - W e dne sday, 18 Nove m be r 2009, 06:17 PM thanx am ar...this is re ally good. vik as.
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by k unal k aira - Friday, 20 Nove m be r 2009, 05:39 PM

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by surabhi gupta - Monday, 30 Nove m be r 2009, 12:32 AM C an sm one te ll the solution of the third proble m ???
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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by Ne w Donk y don - Monday, 30 Nove m be r 2009, 01:25 PM @ surbhi see here i t goes..... ab*cb=ddd di s i s a common method or say concept that i s case of 3 di gi t no. xxx factori zati on i s done only by 37*3 or 3x*111 37 i s a 2 di gi t no. but 3 i s not so w e need to convrt 3 i nto a 2 di gi t no. and i t shud be a multi ple of 3 u can chk i t out 37*3 = 111 37*6 = 222 37*9 = 333 so 3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,27 so 37*27 = 999 hope i ts clear now beers!!!

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by gaurav m idha - Thursday, 9 Fe bruary 2012, 08:40 AM Hi TG/Kam al Sir, I have a doubt in the above que stion in which ABC x C BA = 65125 whe re A, B and C are single digits , the n A+B+C =? How we re ach on the conclusion :- "product would give sum of a pe rfe ct square .The digit sum on R HS is 1.The re fore , the digit sum of e ach num be r can be 1, 8 or 10.C orre spondingly B will be 2 or 4(as digit sum cannot be e qual to 1)." Ple ase throw som e m ore light on it.

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Re: A lphametics- The A rt of Numbers by gaurav m idha - Friday, 10 Fe bruary 2012, 09:18 AM Hi TG/Kam al Sir, I have re ad the article on Digit Sum of num be rs. Thank you.
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