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Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Total Gadha - Monday, 25 De ce m be r 2006, 04:36 AM I am a com pulsive proble m solve r, and always on hunt for ne w proble m s that m ak e m e swe at m y brains. He re are som e of the proble m s that I e njoye d solving during the we e hours of m any nights. I will k e e p on updating proble m s in this article . Although the le ve l of ge om te ry re quire d in MBA e x am s is lowe r than that of the proble m s cove re d he re , I have e x pe rie nce d that solving proble m s lik e the se te sts the fundam e ntals and stre ngthe n the ability to apply all the fundam e ntals at the sam e tim e . Ne x t we e k I am going to pose a challe nge r he re , a proble m that will te st all your ge om e try fundam e ntals in one go. Till the n, e njoy the se !- Total Gadha

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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Die Hard - Tue sday, 10 April 2007, 03:57 PM hi tg...... i did the 3 probs....... the y we re nice .......can u post som e m ore intiguing proble m s .... thank s

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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Total Gadha - Tue sday, 10 April 2007, 09:54 PM Hi Bharat, I am going to upload m any good proble m s in the 'ge om e try proble m s' quiz. Try that out soon. Total Gadha
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Mite sh C haturve di - Thursday, 26 April 2007, 04:37 PM Hi TG, I am trying som e proble m s on ge om e try now a days.W he ne ve r I se e a proble m consisting of circum circle or ine rcircle I ge t confuse d.C ould you ple ase provide som e le ssons in ge om e try on the se topics. Thank s, Mite sh
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Total Gadha - Thursday, 26 April 2007, 06:55 PM Hi Mite sh, I was wonde ring whe re you we re . Good to se e you back . Le t m e try and write the le ssons soon. Total Gadha
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by prak har srivastava - Saturday, 28 April 2007, 11:45 AM hi tg.. re ally u r doin a gr8 job bye e
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Total Gadha - Saturday, 28 April 2007, 04:17 PM Thank s Prabhak ar
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by m oham m e d jave d - Friday, 18 May 2007, 11:46 AM hi Tg! i dint unde rstand t se cond solution can u so som e m ore lite on that ple ase !
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Total Gadha - Saturday, 19 May 2007, 05:09 AM Hi Moham m e d, Te ll m e the part you're facing proble m in. I will e x plain in de tail. Total Gadha
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by shilpi govil - W e dne sday, 23 May 2007, 06:39 PM

hi. the questions were good but i would want that you plz provide some lessons on topics where a cone is insribed in a cylinder of minimum volume and we r required to find radius or height, or where sphere is inscribed in cone of mininum volume and we have to find its height and similar types.....
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by bim al m ohan - Tue sday, 5 June 2007, 01:47 AM hi TG sir, we tak e ABO E a are othe r a re ular pe ntagon , suppose ABC DE.....drawn diagonal BD and C E which inte rse cts at paralle logram ?? from the sym m e try it se e m to be ...... re late d im portant prop of re gular pe ntagon??? point O (say)......IS the

if quad what

thnx in advance !!!


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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Total Gadha - Thursday, 7 June 2007, 09:42 AM Hi Bim al, Ye s it is a paralle logram . Total Gadha
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easier answer 2 question 2 :) by Anurag Bansal - Thursday, 7 June 2007, 01:32 PM

hey guys..just c d last option ..c=600...put dis value..nd c tr iangle aqc..use sign r ule..ie..ac2=aq 2+qc2 ie..4r 2=aq 2+9x2 -------1 (cause pq=x;pc=2x) now apply sine r ule in tr iangle aqc...v get: r =(3) 0.5x=aq ---------2 (taking c=60o thus,qac=60o;acq=30o) so using these equations,we get r 2=3x2=aq 2 thus eq 1 can b ver ified...and it takes just 1 quar ter of a min!!!
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by param je e t singh - Sunday, 10 June 2007, 04:22 PM hi tg Proble m s and solution is too good but i am not good in ge om e try so pls he lp m e ?????????????
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Justin C ase - Sunday, 5 August 2007, 08:19 PM Hi TG... de gre e ??

In the se cond proble m do we have to assum e that triangle ABC is a right angle d triangle , right angle d at B, so that angle AQ P is 90
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Kshitiz Garg - Monday, 6 August 2007, 09:00 PM have sm all solutions for the 3 probs above : 1. C onside ring it a e quilate ral triangle and assum ing n = 2 , we have MN=x , and Q R = 2x with M,N as m id points of PQ and PR re spe ctive ly and S as the C e ntroid.Le t us tak e a point O on Q R s.t. PO is pe rpe ndicular to Q R . so PO is the he ight = H , PS = 2H/3 , SO = H/3 Now triangle s MNS and R Q S are sim ilar , so he ight of triangle MNS : he ight of triangle R Q S = 2 --> As SO = H/3 --> he ight of MNS is H/6. are a ratio = MNS/R Q P = [(1/2*x *H/6) ] / [(1/2*2x *H) =1/12 put n=2 in options , d is the answe r 2. Le t C P = 2a , PQ = a as triangle s APQ and C PB are sim ilar so AP/PB = 2 also Q P*PC = AP*PB , so from (1) , (2) we have AP = 2a , PB = a so in triangle C PA , C P = AP = 2a --> Le t angle C AP = angle PC A = x and he nce angle Q AB = angle Q C B = x in triangle Q AC , angle Q = 90 and 3x = 90 so x = 30 --> angle C = 60 Third late r as am in hurry
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Justin C ase - Monday, 6 August 2007, 10:42 PM ohh.. i re m e m be r Thale s...diam e te r alway m ak e s 90 de gre e s...(re late d to the stupid que stion which I ask e d e arlie r.. )

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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Mohit Goyal - Friday, 10 August 2007, 05:22 PM Hi TG, C ant i do it with obse rvation? what strik e m e for 3rd que s is Solution Le t R e ctangle having are a 18 be R 1, are a 12 be R 2, are a 6 be R 3, are a X be R 4, For this re ctangle ratio of R 1 and R 3 = ratio of R 2 and R 4 R 1/R 3= R 2/R 4 18/6 = 12/X the re fore X = 4. Is this solution right ?? Mohit
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by anam ik a ve rm a - W e dne sday, 26 Se pte m be r 2007, 01:02 AM

Hi Kshitiz/TG "Let angle CAP = angle PCA = x and hence angle QAB = angle QCB = x" Why is angle QAB = angle QCB = x ?
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Vinod Param asivan - Tue sday, 2 O ctobe r 2007, 05:25 PM Hi Anam ik a, Q AB and Q C B are angle s subte nde d by sam e arc Also AQ P~C BP -> ang Q AP = ang BC P

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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by anam ik a ve rm a - Thursday, 4 O ctobe r 2007, 12:09 AM

Hi Vinod/Ksitiz/TG In the statement "Let angle CAP = angle PCA = x and hence angle QAB = angle QCB = x", I understand that angle CAP = angle PCA. I also understand that angle QAB = angle QCB . But why is angle CAP = angle QAB ? Please help.
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Gaurav Ve rm a - Tue sday, 30 O ctobe r 2007, 04:29 PM He llo sir, in q-2 cant we solve d by this way... If we e x te nd cb and aq and m ak e anothe r triangle le t say acd...as cp:pq = 2:1 the n it should be the m e dian of ne w triangle ..and angle cqa =90 so its also altitude ..so the acd is e quilitral? or ..so angle C =60?? pl sugge st..
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by prave e n snss - Tue sday, 30 O ctobe r 2007, 06:56 PM He y Gaurav, C an't that b an isoce le s triangle .....?
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Gaurav Ve rm a - Tue sday, 30 O ctobe r 2007, 09:14 PM Hi prave e n , ya its an isoce le s tri. with com m on angle 90-c/2 and c. so if C =60 ..90-60/2 also 60...thank s buddy..
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Sadiq M - Friday, 30 May 2008, 05:34 PM Hi TG Sir, I could not unde rstand how are u calculating the he ight of triangle Q SR in first que stion and hw r we obtaining ht of triangle MSN = UT *1/n+1 C an u plz e x plain it

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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Ve nk at Iye r - Tue sday, 3 June 2008, 06:45 AM HI TG..Ive be e n visitin ur site re gularly offlate ..Hats off!! I have a doubt..C ud u e x plain why volum e of cone is 1/3rd volum e of cylinde r.. is the re m athe m atical proof 4 it??
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by he he haha - W e dne sday, 4 June 2008, 10:05 AM

Hi Sadiq, UT = ht of MSN + ht of QSR ht of MSN / hr of QSR = 1/n so, ht of QSR = n * ht of MSN


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UT = (1+n) * ht of MSN thrfr : ht of MSN = UT /(n+1) i think u r clear now ....

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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Sadiq M - W e dne sday, 4 June 2008, 06:58 PM ya im cle ar thank s for re plying
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Ne o Sinha - Saturday, 7 June 2008, 02:44 AM Ye s the re is m athe m atical proof for the sam e . This is calculate d by are a unde r the curve m e thod in calculus. The cone can be conside re d as a stack of no. of circular strips. which upon inte gration form 0 to h give s 1/3 (pi) R *R h Suppose we want to find the volum e of a circular cone of base radius r and he ight h, we slice the cone into an infinite num be r of circular discs of thick ne ss dx (im agin) and find the volum e s of all the se discs and add the m up. C onside r the origin as the pointe d e nd of the cone and the ax is through the ce nte r of e ach cross se ction pe rpe ndicular to the base as the x -ax is. C onside r a line through the origin pe rpe ndicular to the x -ax is as the y-ax is. C onside r a circular disc of thick ne ss dx at a distance x from origin. Le t y be the radius of this disc. W e k now that volum e of this disc = pi.y.y.dx whe re pi = 3.14 ne arly. As inte gration is sum m ation the volum e of the cone = inte gral of pi.y.y.dx for x lim its 0 to h. W e k now y/x = tan a whe re a is the angle of the cone . Also r/h = tan a. So y = (r/h)x . Substituting this value of y in te rm s of x and inte grating be twe e n the lim its 0 to h we ge t the volum e of the cone as (1/3)pi.r.r.h (one third pi r square d h). V=inte rgral (Are a*dx ) with lowe r lim it=0 & uppe r lim it=he ight of cone

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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Badal Vishal - Tue sday, 24 Nove m be r 2009, 08:20 PM Hi TG, This is m y first post. I have proble m in finding the optim ize d volum e /curve d surface are a of a cylinde r inscribe d in a cone of radius r and he ight h. W he n sim ilar thing is done in a se m i sphe re we tak e half of the se m i sphe re and find the optim ize d square that can be tak e n inside this part. Ple ase he lp!!
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Arindam Das - Thursday, 13 January 2011, 10:53 PM can u plz te l m e if book s for m aths olym piad good for pre paraing for C AT....i m curre ntly in 2nd yr Bte ch in NITS n in m y XIIth i had cle are d the m athe m atics olym piad(state le ve l and appe are d R MO )
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Re: Geomtery Frolics- Some special problems by Aak ash Singh - Thursday, 19 May 2011, 11:23 PM W ats going on. Sbd plz e x plain
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