Amanda True Nature PT 1

Conversation started August 10
12:06pm Amanda Whosoever Little tidbit whoever is a mutual friend with you & tonya is telling her what your putting on your facebook. Timothy Trident will definitely tell her... Be careful sis... You already know I know what this is like... I'm truly keeping my distance with her atm. She threw me under the bus in the snap of her fingers... So with what she is doing with you right now, I wonder is that what she did when we stopped talking? And I agree with what you sent her. *yes she sent it to me & posted it to her fb as well* I've got some of my own beliefs....and I'm not jumping the bashing bandwagon. You can see statuses she cannot atm as well. Beware you have rats on your friends list.
12:09pm Evelyn Kate Whelan thanks but I think Tim was just trying to find out what happened he was honest and told me he was talking to her to find out what happened because I didn't want to share me and Tonya's pm's
12:09pm Amanda Whosoever The mutual friends we have that you have with her are Tony Ross, Jerrae & Timothy Trident...
Just beware I know how ugly this can get with her first hand and I admire your strength in your beliefs and how sweet and kind you are.
12:10pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah I knew Tim was speaking to her tho so I'm cool with that, he told me he wanted to speak to her about it cause she completely deleted me
12:11pm Amanda Whosoever Well she said you're a liar because you're telling people you were removed by her for your beliefs. I'm sorry she did that to you
12:11pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I do think that is the CORE reason she removed Jerry to, why? I believe she's had ppl whispering in her ear about our beliefs she thinks I'm heretical is what she told me
12:12pm Amanda Whosoever She's not being very mature about it in my opinion
12:12pm Evelyn Kate Whelan
so yes I do think it's more then just me disagreeing with her
12:13pm Amanda Whosoever Do you want to know what status she posted about it? She's got some serious pride rockin Eve
12:13pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it don't matter I'm so use to this Amanda I've been rejected my entire life
12:14pm Amanda Whosoever Well I'm not ditching you so you're now stuck with me
12:15pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol thanks
12:15pm Amanda Whosoever I have many people who have different beliefs in their walk with God the Father... And I respect them. And I really agreed with what you said to her in your response.
You have respect for other people's belief and do not push what you believe on anyone else that's AOK in my books
12:17pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yes, I once believed as she does so I think she will eventually come around This SHOULD be the VERY principle christians hold to....FREEDOM not control
12:21pm Amanda Whosoever Amen sis, that's what I believe too! I used to be an athiest 2 years ago! And when people attack you for what you're beginning to understand that sends a bad message
12:22pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it's RELIGION
12:39pm Amanda Whosoever BINGO
12:45pm Amanda Whosoever That's exactly what it is... The do's and don't the chains, there is no liberty in that kind of teaching or point of view
I'm learning as I go, and if it wasn't for the deceptions I was involved in I wouldn't know what I do now.
12:53pm Amanda Whosoever Know that I love tonya and I know you do too, but the way she has been the last couple months has been causing me to pull away from her, and I pray for her daily. I just didn't like to see how quickly she did the same to you as she did to me I wanted you to know that I agree with you
12:53pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yes I also have no regrets about the deceptions I have went through they made me who I am brought me to this point God used them and IMO I believe He uses them on every child of His the Lord has taught me NO FEAR many in the christian faith still have fear weather they know it or not to be honest I shun away from even calling myself a christian any more
12:59pm Amanda Whosoever *oh man me too!* because Christian seems to be a label attached to multiple religion/denominations
1:01pm Evelyn Kate Whelan there are negative stereotypes that come with the label Christian
1:01pm Amanda Whosoever When people see my name on YT they immediately attach it to bigatory beliefs, and all kinds of preconceptions about the church and then they go to Westboro Baptist Church etc.... I'm tempted to change my name on Youtube
1:01pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah it's sad and to be honest I don't blame the ppl who don't have our faith that think that way it's not them but those who claim to be of the faith that has painted us in a bad light When Tonya deleted me yesterday I couldn't even see her page now I can not sure what happened or how that works
1:08pm Amanda Whosoever She unblocked you, to see if you're commenting on my statuses Guaranteed Its all drama.. If she deletes me because I kept you on my list... Well it says enough all on its own lol
1:13pm Evelyn Kate Whelan guilt by association
1:13pm
Amanda Whosoever I know because I've been talking to her for almost 2 yrs. I know how this works. She can't block you again for 48 hrs
1:14pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well she has no reason to I haven't tried contacting her I leave that to ppl's own conscious
1:15pm Amanda Whosoever Funny you brought that up... Lastnight I let hubby listen to her video about the elders.... And when she got to that part where she says if you associate with them I am cutting you off. I said to hubby outloud she's trying to guilt them into choosing sides. That's a BIG one that I did NOT agree with.
1:16pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well I found it a bit hypocritical Amanda because she didn't want ppl doing that to her when she became friends with a full pret like me or with atheists
1:16pm Amanda Whosoever You are an pretty awesome woman Eve
Sorry it took this for us to actually talk... *i remember a while back we talked but I became antisocial and stupid lol* Oh my gosh! Are you reading my mind? XD
1:17pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol
1:17pm Amanda Whosoever I watched lastnight the video she made for "Sam" and she mentions me in the beginning...and how people shouldn't be judged for difference in beliefs...and what not and then she drew a huge line in the sand 2 days ago. very hypocritical The haters video... And I thought to myself wow... She should relisten to this and take her own advice
1:19pm Evelyn Kate Whelan we should be treating others like we ourselves want to be treated, I want to love even my "enemies" I'm tired of throwing ppl out of my life cause they have a differing view I have all sorts of ppl as friends from atheists to wiccans I DON'T FEAR them why should I if my faith is in Jesus she told me about the "spit spat" you guys had
1:24pm Amanda Whosoever
AMEN!!!!!! The Lord has put this on my heart as of the last couple months "Love the unlovable, Make Peace"
1:26pm Amanda Whosoever She went off like a spazz on me thinking my one video was all about her. and it so was not. It was about google hangouts period, and about how believers were treating each other.
I needed time to think about what I wanted to say to her and to sort my brain. She wouldn't give me that time One thing about me is I don't like to be rushed or pressured. I don't think anyone does.
1:28pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I understand well I want to ask your forgiveness because I did say at that time I couldn't stand to watch your vids, it's because what she told me made me think you were making them directed at her and the legalist couple I use to be involved with did that very thing with me
1:28pm Amanda Whosoever I left highschool a long time ago and we're in our 30's for crying outloud.
1:29pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I know I told Tim last night that I felt like a kid when ppl use to say you have to do this or that or I'm not going to be your friend
I should not have jumped to her side without hearing yours for that I'm truly sorry
1:30pm Amanda Whosoever Yes people can influence the outlook one has on others. Thank you for being honest. That's admirable.
1:31pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I think I'm gonna nap for a while thanks for the encouragement
1:33pm Amanda Whosoever Its ok Eve I do get how that happens, and before hand I used to get sucked in and I almost did lastnight, but when she sent me your message I read it and said to myself "wait I agree with her" And took a step back and realized I wasn't going to take sides if it came down to that.
1:33pm Amanda Whosoever have a good nap (that sure sounds good right now) don't think my kids will cooperate though lol
i need to ask you a serious question here cause my cheeks are on fire right now
4:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan ok man I woke up with some kind of bug bit it itches and is round like a circle there are two of them side by side
4:25pm Amanda Whosoever what the heck is that... is it a spider bite?
4:25pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't know that's what scares me lol
4:25pm Amanda Whosoever ewwwww I hate bugs
4:25pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it might be I actually caught a spider biting me a week ago
4:25pm Amanda Whosoever ok well i dislike bugs lol
4:26pm Amanda Whosoever ok im not sending you this to pick on her some more but I want to know is it just me or is she double talking in this video http://youtu.be/mpPtQAzB9yk
Can you dig it? No? then shuttup. www.youtube.com I have never been more serious about something than I am about this video. I am thankful for my brethren and sisteren (hahah!) who I know stand by me on this...
4:26pm Evelyn Kate Whelan anyways what's going on? ok
4:27pm Amanda Whosoever in one sentence she says "she will not associate with those who don't believe these things" but then at the end she says something different. and also her conditions are she will fight you over it OR dust her feet of you (which one is it?) and how can anyone get saved...according to her deceptions don't help people grow...
4:32pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yes it's double I don't get it why did she delete me then?
4:33pm Amanda Whosoever me either! EXACTLY!
4:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't disagree with any of those things
4:33pm Amanda Whosoever LOL!!!!!!! EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE (wtf!)
4:34pm Evelyn Kate Whelan you don't have to worry about language with me I'm not a legalist
4:34pm Amanda Whosoever LOL
my cheeks got all hot listening to it my husband who's pretty laid back in the faith said WHAT THE HELL IS SHE EVEN TALKING ABOUT?
4:35pm Amanda Whosoever he said she isnt making much sense and how do people get saved if she refuses to associate with them? i truly don't get it...and how can people not hear the double talk?
4:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well it seems she is trying to justify why she excludes ppl from being friends yet then those she excludes don't even fit the bill
4:36pm Amanda Whosoever wow that was an awesome evaluation Jesus didn't pick and choose
4:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan btw does she still have atheist and jewish friends? I'm pretty sure they
disagree on the gospel
4:36pm Amanda Whosoever I want to love the unlovable LOL GOOD ONE! I'm pretty sure she does in her offline life I'm pretty sure she does wow eve...im blown away atm
4:38pm Evelyn Kate Whelan what's "atm"?
4:38pm Amanda Whosoever and what's with the "kick rocks" and the title? like come on now... what the heck *atm =at the moment* i feel sad for her...so much bitterness how is she going to reach the lost? the unsaved with attitude like that?
4:39pm Evelyn Kate Whelan this was to sincity>> galaxydreams3 1 hour ago I really appreciate that! you totally inspired this video and i am so glad you
did. No more drama for this gal. it feels great no more drama? she creates her own drama IMO
4:39pm Amanda Whosoever *i just about spit out my coffee* she sure does my husband actually said that too
4:41pm Evelyn Kate Whelan at the expensive of truth? what is truth? JESUS is truth yet when it comes to 2ndary issues everyone's truth is different it comes and changes with growth
4:44pm Amanda Whosoever I really think you should see her status before possibly refriending her if it comes down to that its quite slanderous eve you said why did she unfriend you... i wonder if this is her opinion of me as well i have screenshots of what's relevant
4:45pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I can't see it
what's it say
4:46pm Amanda Whosoever this is flat out uncalled for (considering you gave her a legit explanation and this is what she said)
4:46pm Amanda Whosoever and the following comments are screen shot too
4:46pm Evelyn Kate Whelan let me see them YAY I'm a nut job, nut jobs are SOOO fun
4:47pm Amanda Whosoever according to her Im pretty unbalanced too lol
so disagreeing with her = losing your damn mind? AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA sorry i messed up the order of them
4:50pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm the one trying to save face?
4:50pm Amanda Whosoever LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! ikr?? see how she twists it? so i can only imagine how she did that with me
4:50pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm not commenting in PUBLIC about her how am I trying to save face?
4:50pm Amanda Whosoever by lying about why she removed you apparently
and with who the only ppl I've talked to were two of my close preterist friends and you and Tim other then that no one else knows how many of her friends know?
4:51pm Amanda Whosoever someone is a rat I told ya (the status you put up about being removed for your beliefs) exactly! tim... i had him tell her what was on my fb too
4:51pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well I knew Tim told her that tho Amanda
4:51pm Amanda Whosoever jerrae? cause she told me to go check out how you were lying about it...
4:52pm Evelyn Kate Whelan and I do think that is the reason not just my preterist beliefs my beliefs PERIOD and wouldn't that be the reason if she removed me because I disagreed with her?
4:52pm
Amanda Whosoever she removed Jerry because he's a wuss? ...... Im appauled at her behavior Eve
4:53pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah so am I and I don't see her re-friending me we were not that close
4:53pm Amanda Whosoever she acted like she was devestated she said "and we were getting pretty close"
4:55pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well I hope her conscious gets to her cause she shouldn't be removing ppl for disagreeing, I could have straight up told her I thought she was being hypocritical but I didn't I put it in a more loving way
4:55pm Amanda Whosoever Your response was awesome sis truly it was I was applauding you it was the most rational response I've read in a lonnnnng time
so if she thinks you are a nutjob for that? frig right off....what's stable to her? one who agrees with her? and her alone? I commend you chick you did amazing
4:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan one who don't get her to think outside of the box and question her sacred cows
4:57pm Amanda Whosoever If i make another video on youtube i hope she unfriends me for it. I wont be kept in a box
4:58pm Evelyn Kate Whelan here's what I don't get why didn't she go off when she first read it? it was HOURS later til she went off about it
4:58pm Amanda Whosoever or tonya's dogmatic box really? "creative drama"
yes that is why I think she has bugs in her ears....could be wrong
4:59pm Amanda Whosoever I think you may be right she hasnt talked to me much lately and yesterday she knew I was bummed from my gramma and she said "you ok? you havent been talking to me much again I noticed"
5:00pm Evelyn Kate Whelan your grandma?
5:00pm Amanda Whosoever its a 2 way street no? yes it was 10 years yesterday she passed and she was the only motherly figure in my life the wound has never healed
5:00pm Evelyn Kate Whelan oh I'm sorry to hear that
5:01pm Amanda Whosoever its ok I know where she is
and she's in good hands
5:02pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yep
5:02pm Amanda Whosoever I know it must seem like i couldnt wait to blab about this but it burned me up seeing this publicly and wondering what did she say about me? and is this what she did too? and how quickly she tossed you aside and the reason she did? #1 because you disagreed with her? *BUZZER SOUND*
5:04pm Amanda Whosoever we are adults right? last time I checked? lol
some of us lol
5:04pm Amanda Whosoever 30 that's adult status no? LOL I'm sorry she did this to you Im going to be making some adjustments in the next couple weeks and probably making a video that will cause her to unfriend me. I want her to walk away from me, its too much drama when I try to walk away from her. I tried that the last time part ways peacefully? (totally didnt happen that way) You're kids back in school yet? brb gotta go see what my lil sneaky daughter is up to (its too quiet) lol
5:11pm Evelyn Kate Whelan sorry was doing something I'm in paltalk and something's up with my sound
5:11pm Amanda Whosoever its ok im going to take it mobile (which im mostly on my cellphone)
5:14pm
Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah um you might have to end it with drama involved
5:15pm Amanda Whosoever I'm going to make a video (seeing as she waits for my reaction all the time) she won't like what I say...and I aint gonna respond to her bullshit in msgs on here or email or text or phone calls... Dealt with that the last time
5:39pm Evelyn Kate Whelan sad
5:41pm Amanda Whosoever Agreed Beware of Tony Ross he added to that status. And said stuff about Jerry
5:45pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it's because Jerry showed him from scripture where he was wrong about dividing the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven
5:53pm Amanda Whosoever Man do these people not know what it is to not slander and gossip about people?
Publicly at that... But hey atleast its public (well kind of)
5:55pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm not going to pretend I don't talk to others about these things, when I feel I'm done wrong I WILL go to my friends in need of support and encouragement and frankly I believe ALL ppl do that but as far as calling names or saying lies that is what is slander
5:56pm Amanda Whosoever I agree with that too The nastiness is what bothers me.... Asking for advice is one thing.
5:57pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she told me she strongly disagreed when she first read it Amanda and I said that's okay just wanted to share my thoughts, If I deleted everyone that disagreed with me I would not have anyone left
5:57pm Amanda Whosoever I'm looking at YT comments....my mouth is hanging open at some of the comments made. Idk what's going on with her but You were honest Eve and that's what counts
5:58pm Evelyn Kate Whelan also Amanda if this were not about my beliefs why state I'm becoming more heretical by the day? I'm use to the rejection but it still doesn't make it easy I thought she was different then MANY within the Christian faith
6:11pm Amanda Whosoever She says what she feels when she's pissed... And bottles it all up until then. I found out that she thought I was "crazy" in a video she made to me too... Like I'm the one who's effed because I had a vision (which I don't normally have) but I fasted & prayed about a situation and got a full fledged vision with the words "your enemies are closer than your friends"
6:12pm Amanda Whosoever Hope you don't think I'm nuts for that lol jk jk I don't go blabbing about this stuff... But I mean it doesn't happen often for me either.
6:50pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't think your nuts
I do meditations do you think I'm nuts? lol
6:53pm Amanda Whosoever NOPE! Lol
6:54pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I also do yoga and I also believe some "weird" believes Christians would burn me for preterism being one of them but that are many others too be honest I do want study universalism before deeming it 100% as not true.
6:56pm Amanda Whosoever Ohhhhh noooooo!!!!!! NOT Yoga!!!! XD You're going to burrrrrrn
6:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan right now I don't believe it
6:56pm Amanda Whosoever I don't believe in an eternal torment for Hell.
6:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't either I don't think scripture even teaches it scripture is highly metaphoric some ppl take every bit of it as literal
6:57pm Amanda Whosoever Nope it does not! It teaches "death" meaning not ressurected The grave. Sheol
6:58pm Amanda Whosoever People need to have an open mind...and realize that a lot of the stuff is not literal.
Also the word for torment I think (I can't remember) but its something to do with a kind of stone...I gotta find the clip I watched
6:59pm Evelyn Kate Whelan there is also cultural differences, sorry I don't believe in the "women be silient"
6:59pm Amanda Whosoever To do with refining metals darnit I can't remember Me either! The Lord woke me up! And my husband had a really poor view of God from his past...the Lord didn't expect me to be silent
7:00pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yes did you know Isaiah 48:10 says God will refine His saints in the FURNACE of affliction, Jesus also baptizes with FIRE ppl try to say that isn't for the believer I disagree
7:01pm Amanda Whosoever If I would have let my husband be in control our kids wouldn't even know the gospel nor would they pray before their meals or bedtime... They wouldn't have faith as they do. let's put it that way YES! The Furnace aka Fire is for refining purposes! AMEN!!!!
7:02pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well if we didn't realize cultural differences then we would not be shaving beards wearing make up jewelry no tats still having slaves ect ect
7:03pm Amanda Whosoever We wouldn't wear pants either lol!
7:03pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Also I do NOT agree with homosexuality BUT I do not treat gay ppl the way many Christians do as if they are damned and they are perfect without sin
7:04pm Amanda Whosoever Oh darn sis....for real you & I have a lot of the same view points. I used to be a bisexual.
7:05pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I believe a homosexual can be saved maybe CONVICTED but saved still the same I believe they can struggle sometimes even give UP and live in it, if they are in Christ I have to let them go and let God WORK in them I'm not gonna bash them I have my own issues it makes me sick seeing all the hatred within the faith
7:23pm
Amanda Whosoever That's right! God delivered me, and it was heart poison why I was attracted to the same sex... But people need to stop playing God. He IS able! (Can I get an amen?) Lol There is WAY too much hatred going on
9:34pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Any thing new?
10:01pm Amanda Whosoever Not really she updated a status and idk who its for. Tonya Reddy-Perry 4 minutes ago near Severna Park, MD Ahh high school games. It's been so long I almost forgot what it looked like lol
I am gonna defend Jesus Christ, His gospel, eternal security, that the bible is the written Word of God.... And I will do that forever. U wanna call that satanic? Um.... Ok. U do that but I do not recommend it. You know who you are.
10:05pm Amanda Whosoever I don't know who she's talking about but she's being pretty persistant with me... She only comments on my stuff when she KNOWS I don't want to talk to her...
I sure never said she's talking satanic lol! So if she got that from my most recent status oh well. Lmao!
10:06pm Evelyn Kate Whelan SATANIC???? maybe she's still trying to make me look bad who knows oh but wait
10:07pm Amanda Whosoever Lmao exactly or me... Who knows is right!
10:07pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she said something about high school didn't you but that in your status?
10:08pm Amanda Whosoever Not on a status she can see
10:08pm Evelyn Kate Whelan oh okay
well then again who knows lol the ppl I've been hurt the most by are "christians"
10:09pm Amanda Whosoever And I covered my ass and put all the mutual friends we have on the same list she is on.... Pretty sad when I don't trust people eh?
10:11pm Amanda Whosoever That's where I'm at Eve Brb helping my kiddies clean up before bedtime
10:12pm Evelyn Kate Whelan not sure if I would add her back
10:13pm Amanda Whosoever I am hoping she'll remove me she said she won't add you back on her status
10:30pm Evelyn Kate Whelan a new status?
10:32pm Amanda Whosoever No the same one about u...its got over 50 comments
10:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol wow
10:33pm Amanda Whosoever I noticed a tactic...and the Lord warned me about it...she friended me again long enough to get close with my friends and now she's going to make me look bad. The status is about me. I know by a comment she made under it about the Lord showing her certain people are "shady"
10:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I didn't figure she would sense we were not that close yeah I think it's sad and hurtful to make others look bad publically
10:35pm Amanda Whosoever She's all over the place its all about her ego... And as long as people aren't making her look bad. Yes the world revolves around her... Give me a break Cause that status is "ALL" about her *rolls eyes* My status covers almost all of Youtube lmao!
10:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she should be feeling like crap for treating others like that, and also posting private messages
10:37pm Amanda Whosoever Ok read my status and tell me how she got that I said she's being satanic?
10:37pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it doesn't
10:37pm Amanda Whosoever She doesn't feel bad because honestly the way I'm discerning this is she's been raised to feel that she can do no wrong. And when she does everyone else is still wrong.... She twists it....to make it mean something it doesn't.
Man that status covers even the bimob group and amw and the "prophets" online.
10:40pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it's not right what she's doing Amanda and it's NOT love
10:40pm Amanda Whosoever The reason I say that about her upbringing is cause her mom always backs up what she says no matter how rude it may be I know I feel sick
10:41pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well then she will prob not feel bad or have any regrets about it then
10:45pm Amanda Whosoever I'm lookin and no she definitely does not.... No remorse eve none...
10:45pm Evelyn Kate Whelan that's sad I would not be able to share someones private message in a status for
basically the whole world to see and not feel bad about it or call someone names
10:51pm Amanda Whosoever i gotta wonder about these people who can't see how quickly she turns on those she claims to LOVE and are Best friends and cares about... says alot about them alot of these people were my friends eve or atleast I thought they were
10:52pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah it's RELIGION AGAIN Amada Amanda*
10:55pm Amanda Whosoever I cant be bothered with it when she unfriends me im going to remove alot of people off my list... I won't have lil spies snoopin around my fb to cause strife and gossip and all this crap
10:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I hear ya
10:56pm Amanda Whosoever well atleast we found out now...better now than never almost 2 years of friendship down the crapper (i give 3 chances with people normally) this isnt the first time she's been like this with me either I'd like to have normal civil and ADULT friendships for crying out loud
10:58pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I think it's sad
11:00pm Amanda Whosoever Its ridiculous, idk about you but this is why I don't trust people
11:01pm Evelyn Kate Whelan brb
11:18pm Amanda Whosoever I rarely talk to ppl I'm pretty antisocial I know it don't seem that way
11:19pm Evelyn Kate Whelan back, yes ppl should not treat others like she is
I am too as far as face to face, I have a lot of internet friends tho and ppl from my past
11:36pm Amanda Whosoever I don't even have real friends anymore in face to face. Bad experiences in the past.. And she reminds me of an old friend I had that did this stuff to me, I found out that this friend was running me into the ground behind my back, and then being sweet to my face.
11:39pm Evelyn Kate Whelan why do ppl even do that? I don't get it a true friend tells the person to their face how they feel
12:41am Evelyn Kate Whelan did you delete your youtube channel? I can't find it
1:48am Amanda Whosoever No I didn't It should still be there
BelieverinChrist83 I so need to go to bed I'm passing out and then coming back too lol Its almost 2 in the morning what time is it where you're at? Ok well have a good sleep eve talk I'm subbed to you, you should be able to find me Sorry it took me so long to respond was talking to a friend on the phone from california
2:14am Evelyn Kate Whelan it's ok and yeah I'm going to bed soon too August 11
12:29pm Evelyn Kate Whelan good morning Amanda well afternoon now lol
12:30pm Amanda Whosoever Lol afternoon eve how are ya chickie? Did ya sleep good?
12:30pm Evelyn Kate Whelan not enough as usual but other then that it's been a good start
12:32pm
Amanda Whosoever I didn't get much sleep either been thinkin too much lol
12:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm a bit of a night owl and it's not good to be that way when you have an autistic son that gets up early lol
12:38pm Amanda Whosoever I'm a night owl too lol my kids don't sleep in at all...
2:30pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Any word from Tonya?
2:33pm Amanda Whosoever She asked me if I was ok, I haven't read it nor responded... She digs for stuff to trap me into a convo I don't want to have. As far as she knows I'm on a Fb vacation. Lol
2:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I understand
2:33pm
Amanda Whosoever I'm only talking to a few people atm.
2:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan don't blame ya there, guess what
2:34pm Amanda Whosoever What?
2:34pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I was basically called a heretical nut case again today by another person LOL two days in a row that's a record
2:34pm Amanda Whosoever Is it a person tonya knows?
2:35pm Evelyn Kate Whelan no
What happened?
2:35pm Evelyn Kate Whelan maybe that should be a new religious phrase seems the religious ppl use it a lot
2:35pm Amanda Whosoever If its not their way its heresy.... Smh... This is awful *was it on Yt or Fb?*
2:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan It's a calvinist and you know how their all about learning from men "church history, church fathers, and creeds" I disagreed basically and told him I could careless about the church fathers or church history when it comes to me learning
2:36pm Amanda Whosoever People aren't allowed to have their own thoughts just be religious drones and that makes people happy? Or atleast the stone throwers.
2:37pm Evelyn Kate Whelan not all calvinist by the way don't wanna throw them all in a box
2:37pm
Amanda Whosoever All Religious Doctrine and man made theology church and church"fathers" what does Jesus say call NO MAN father.. yeesh
2:38pm Evelyn Kate Whelan this was my reply to him calling me insane>> Spiritual things are not taught by men their taught by God btw I am insane I love crazy ppl the "norm" is boring so thanks for the compliment.
2:38pm Amanda Whosoever I understood what you meant LOL!!!!!!!! that's freakin awesome! What is normal anyways? Lol Does that term even really exist? They have that definition coined? Normal "like robots, like everyone else? Wanna be's??" An average of every one else who is mediocre? I'm pretty crazy myself lol only cause I'm originally myself (not trying to be like anyone else) and apparently that's the new crazy. Thinking outside of the "box"
Tonya wrote me
5:02pm Amanda Whosoever What did she say? Be careful Eve... Chances are she's digging because she knows I'm not talking to her since she did this stuff to you. she still has the status up about you too. Did she apologize?
5:11pm Evelyn Kate Whelan no lol yeah right she's too prideful for that
5:12pm Amanda Whosoever Lol uhoh what did she say
5:24pm Amanda Whosoever Is it that bad?
are ya there?
5:37pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah I've been talking to her
5:38pm Amanda Whosoever and what the verdict
5:38pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol it's not good
5:39pm Amanda Whosoever i dont want to seem nosey
5:40pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Felt like she was trying to catch me in a trap the entire time so I told her to go hurt someone else and use their personal messages for a status haven't replied sense then
catch you in a trap? i want her to stop commenting on my statuses
5:41pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah like some thing else she could use against me publically
5:41pm Amanda Whosoever i gotta fix my settings she is so fake only cares about her own image
5:42pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I would not mind sharing with you are messages you seem to know how it feels and have been through this before with her I certainly wouldn't put them out publically tho
5:43pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Today 4:41pm Tonya Reddy-Perry You can assume all you want that the reason I unfriended you is because of your belief's. Which is complete bullshit. Has that ever bothered me? .... ever? No, it hasnt... so why you would assume that I have zero idea.
The reason I unfriended you is your response to my video. The fact that you do not think people should be warned of occult members.... freaks me out. THAT is the reason I unfriended you. I just wanted to make that crystal clear. People who know me, know damn well I wouldnt have and did not unfriend you for the reason you are going around claiming. God bless. ~Tonya 4:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan if it's not because of my beliefs then you have no reason to call me a HERETICAL nut job 4:58pm Evelyn Kate Whelan You do understand that unfriending because of my BELIEFS on your Elders vid IS because of my beliefs also if you don't want ppl to assume you deleted me for my beliefs you should stop throwing the heretical term around. Honestly Tonya I thought you were different then most religious ppl but your not. 5:03pm Tonya Reddy-Perry i called you that because i cannot freaking believe that you said NOT to warn people about occult members!! it has NOTHING to do with your preterism belief. If you dont want to believe me, fine girl...lol whatever floats your boat. you take care. yeah yeah cry cry, whatever. You dont want me to warn people about the occult? you can kick rocks too. bye bye. 5:08pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well just know i wouldn't do the same to you. I went to friends in confident with what happened not a public forum to defame you. My response to your view has everything to do with my world view which came with the TRUTH of preterism so sorry but it has everything to do with it, I already told you in that message and maybe I should copy and paste it so you can see that it wasn't so much the vid you made on the couple as the one you directed at ppl who stayed friends with them. Here's honesty it's hypocritical you just went through the same where ppl unfriended you for being friends with preterist.
You also have friends that are jewish and atheist. Would it be right for ppl to threat you to unfriend them or they will you? I don't think so. 5:12pm Tonya Reddy-Perry i made it CLEAR that i am talking about people you associate with ON YOUTUBE. I also made a video yesterday about the 5 things that people i fellowship must believe in order for me to fellowship with them. You believe the 5, which I even said in the viideo!! But I let myself get VERY close to you over the past few weeks and when you said you dont think i should stop people from believe decieved... like i said.. it freaked me out. I dont know whats going on with you but if thats the way you feel i dont feel like i can trust you and trust is HUGE for me in a friendship. 5:13pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I didn't say that 5:13pm Tonya Reddy-Perry well yeah u kinda did Eve. go back and read what you wrote 5:14pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I know what I said Tonya and I can't force you to do anything, I gave my thoughts. As for trust you squashed that all over the place when you decided to share my thoughts with all of facebook. 5:14pm Tonya Reddy-Perry you basicly said we should expose people do i need to copy and paste it??? i didnt share them with all of facebook i shared them with my friends. and i asked for peoples opinion if i over reacted. 5:16pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't even know them for one, I've also thought about taking my own
"expose" vids down, I know they have helped some ppl I get messages almost a daily basis about the one I did on brother ryan hicks, the prob is that ppl are on their own journey's and I think both me and you know that even when we had been deceived in the past it was all a part of us growing. 5:16pm Tonya Reddy-Perry how do you know that anyway? you have someone spying on me or something? yep, thats what you said! 5:18pm Tonya Reddy-Perry Look, if you believe that we shouldnt expose false teachers... then fine. you think that. I disagree and i cannot trust you if you think that way. How am i suppose to know if you will even warn me about a false teacher if i happen to be listening to one? based on what you said... you wouldnt say a damn word to me about it! 5:19pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I have expose vids on my channel your assuming 5:20pm Tonya Reddy-Perry You want to play martyr and act like i unfriended you because of your endtime beliefs. you go ahead and do that. its a LIE and you know it. I have NEVER not ONE time said that was an issue for me. EVER. So you lied about me and you dont wanna warn me or anyone else about false teachers. yeah no thanks. I am not interested in being friends with someone like that. 5:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Tonya it is you that I can't trust 5:20pm
Tonya Reddy-Perry if you wanna say I am "religious" because of that? LOL go for it. whatever makes you feel better. 5:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan a martyr? I'm not publically crying to others to save face 5:20pm Tonya Reddy-Perry I never gave you a reason to thank that while we were friends. ever. and you know it. 5:21pm Evelyn Kate Whelan We haven't been friends for long "good" ones anyway. 5:21pm Tonya Reddy-Perry bullshit!! alex told me you posted that i unfriended you because of your preterism. how many times are you gonna lie to me? i hate liars. goodbye. 5:21pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm use to ppl like you Tonya, you wanna toss me away because I disagree well that's normal for me. 5:22pm Tonya Reddy-Perry i toss you away because you are a liar and because you dont think i should warn people about the occult. Yep. damn right. 5:23pm Evelyn Kate Whelan
I can give you all my post not one of them had your name OR even had our private convos in it Okay, well believe as you wish. 5:23pm Tonya Reddy-Perry did you or did you not post a post about someone unfriending you because of your preterism? 5:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Yep here I'll give it to ya 5:24pm Tonya Reddy-Perry and that is NOT why I unfriended you and you KNEW that. you are a liar. why the fuck would i all of the sudden unfriend you because of your preterism? does that make ANY sense what-so-ever?? 5:27pm Evelyn Kate Whelan As I said Tonya my beliefs stem from my world view which changed when I came across the truth of preterism, you deleted me because I disagreed with you about deleting ppl that stayed friends with a couple you exposed that IS MY BELIEFS 5:28pm Tonya Reddy-Perry Eve... you lead people to believe it was your PRETERISM that made me unfriend you.. you can twist words all you want girlfriend. LOL you are not fooling ANYONE i assure you. I will say it again... i unfriended you because you dont think i shoudl warn people about the occult.
5:29pm Evelyn Kate Whelan First of all no one knew who I was speaking about in the first place Tonya and to be honest I do believe it comes down to my preterist beliefs as I've said many times answer me this why say I'm heretical? 5:29pm Tonya Reddy-Perry want me to say it again? I unfriended you because you dont think i should warn people about the occult. 5:29pm Evelyn Kate Whelan what is it I believe that is heretical? 5:29pm Tonya Reddy-Perry you are heretical because you dont think i should warn people ABOUT THE OCCULT. 5:29pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I never said not to warn ppl as I've made that clear many times 5:29pm Tonya Reddy-Perry have i ever called your preterism heretical? no? the shut the hell up. 5:30pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Tonya your threats don't work on me I will still love you know matter how much anger you spit at me. 5:30pm Tonya Reddy-Perry
threats? what the fuck are you talking about? 5:31pm Evelyn Kate Whelan no? the shut the hell up. 5:31pm Tonya Reddy-Perry i answered your question now you answer mine.. have i EVER called your preterism heretical? shut the hell up is a threat? LOL eve give me a fucking break. 5:31pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Why? so you can go post it publically again? 5:32pm Tonya Reddy-Perry have i ever called your preterism heretical? 5:32pm Evelyn Kate Whelan You called me heretical Why are you even talking to me? To get more stuff to post on your status'? So you know how friendships work Tonya? your a loyal person? could've fooled me 5:35pm Tonya Reddy-Perry when have i ever called your PRETERIST beliefs heretical? 5:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Go hurt someone else and use their personal messages for your status'
5:36pm Tonya Reddy-Perry you can twist shit all you want too Eve. I never called you heretical for your preterism... no matter HOW much you wanna think i did. I cant block you for 48 hours apparently. since i unclocked you. its a facebook rule. You wanna stop talking to me then stop responding. yeah and you go keep on lying and throwing yourself a pity party. have a blast. as for me, i am going to keep my integrity and my honestly. i never used your personal message for a status. get your story straight.
5:48pm Amanda Whosoever gotta open my big message screen this lil chat bubble thingy sucks lol
5:58pm Amanda Whosoever WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A BITCH! ALL ABOUT SELF IMAGE! Or as you called it "saving face"
5:58pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah she deleted Tim now too, I think she thinks he's telling me what she's been saying
6:00pm Amanda Whosoever LOL ofcourse lemme see if she deleted me too not yet she's gotta say her piece first before she does that and she thinks im offline
6:01pm Evelyn Kate Whelan seriously I about died over laughing when she mentioned trust
6:01pm Amanda Whosoever that's what she did to me!!!!!!!
6:02pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm thinking are you kidding me?
6:02pm Amanda Whosoever the second time she flipped on me she didnt even let me talk she unfriended me and I told her i needed time via an email she responded back to me when we decided to give our friendship another go with "I NEED TIME" then sent me an email on HER terms saying she's willing to be my friend
i didnt respond to her right away so she got a lil bitchy so i was like ??????? she goes well i sent you an email saying we should be friends again yea so she could get closer to the strong women on yt i was associated with like Jerrae Lyn her mother pets her damn ego baby girl can do no wrong pft
6:04pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well I know one thing she don't know who she's trying her tactics on when it comes to me, I've dealt with religious ppl plenty in my life I know the drill when ppl try to control others she's the one making herself grouchy truth hurts eh?
6:06pm Amanda Whosoever how is anyone lying? LMAO! rotflmao!
6:06pm
Evelyn Kate Whelan she's grouchy cause she knows she's wrong Amanda
6:06pm Amanda Whosoever i showed you screenshots sorry lol conviction aint something she deals well with
6:07pm Evelyn Kate Whelan OH SHIT look at what Tim's last message was with her and he don't even know about mine and her's convo My last reply to her "So posting private messages is not gossiping???? Beamin-the-eye much? I don know what's got into you Tonya, but when you get sick of playing African Dictator, we will be waiting for you to return to sanity. God Bless"
6:07pm Amanda Whosoever DANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he said that to her?
yep
6:09pm Amanda Whosoever what were they talking about?
6:09pm Evelyn Kate Whelan not sure haven't asked him I'm sure it was about me she prob ACCUSED him of telling me what she's been saying without even knowing who accusations and assumptions are plain ignorant
6:12pm Amanda Whosoever she's going to go off the deep end you watch
6:13pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it's not going to take long before she exposes herself to others
6:13pm Amanda Whosoever if her last couple videos weren't bad enough telling you to "shut the hell up"
she needs to get a grip she's becoming so NASTY i'm waiting for the accusations to come rolling in via message on me but im sure she's gotta talk shit to almost all of our mutual friends first before she removes me its ok cause our mutual friends are on the same privacy list as she is. lol
6:14pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I will not tell her who told me the things she said about me your name will not come out of my mouth or should I say fingers lol BUT we only have a FEW mutual friends
6:16pm Amanda Whosoever well you can always hide your friends lol she aint on your friends list
6:16pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I won't be talking to her after today unless she is apologizing then I MIGHT consider it so she prob thinks she got rid of the person that told me with deleting Tim
6:16pm Amanda Whosoever and she knows im on yours anyways honestly eve if she unfriends me PRAISE GOD! she wont need you to tell her I told you anything
6:17pm Evelyn Kate Whelan LOL
6:17pm Amanda Whosoever she'll get all paranoid and remove me over Jerrae (cause she's got Jerrae sucked right in) and Tony ross can't see squat he's on my restricted list (that's worse than Tonya & friends)
6:18pm Evelyn Kate Whelan too much drama lol
6:18pm Amanda Whosoever but she don't do drama LOL but messaged you with that bs today? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA pmsl
6:18pm Evelyn Kate Whelan what was she expecting? by messaging me? for me to beg her forgiveness?
6:19pm Amanda Whosoever LMAO what did you do wrong again?
6:19pm Evelyn Kate Whelan looking for something else to gossip about I suppose?
6:19pm Amanda Whosoever oh right disagreed with her she knows she's caught but she's too proud to admit it like i said she can do no wrong
6:21pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I almost told her she wasn't hanging onto her integrity or honor but onto her pride
but I didn't want to respond any more cause she actually had me laughing if she would've had gotten me pissed off it would not have been good
6:22pm Amanda Whosoever LOL! I was reading it going are you freakin kidding me... she tries to twist shit (it was like deja vu) that's what she did to me
6:22pm Evelyn Kate Whelan now Tim is not just deleted but blocked
6:23pm Amanda Whosoever and made me feel like shit "did you gossip to anyone else i need to know" LMAO she's such a stalker (she needs to play detective) so now she is going to grind him DID YOU TELL EVE THIS and when he says no
6:23pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yes I could see she was trying to use guilt on me, that ish don't work on me, I've already been through that game with SOO many ppl
6:23pm
Amanda Whosoever she will narrow down her search and voila i shall be deleted MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
6:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yep he did say she was pushing LOL
6:24pm Amanda Whosoever she's ALWAYS pushy rotfl her name should be pushy mcpusher man i cant even say i feel bad for the shit I've dealt with from her for the last oh Lord year almost she got all stupid with me when her mom stayed with them after ben was born best friends don't treat others that way...she updated facebook but wouldnt text me, message me, nadda... "best friends my ass crack" saying that she doesnt trust people online like she does me...oh but you knew about what happened and how many others did? she told me only DONNA ROSE knew and her mother sorry "rant" mode
it's okay I can understand
6:29pm Amanda Whosoever the last 2 months since we started talking again I have not spoken to her about anything personal...or anything that would trap me I took precaution BIG time with her I didnt trust her at all when i saw her commenting on all my friends videos on youtube (thinking she don't even know them) and she would not dare comment on mine...something fishy was up
6:32pm Evelyn Kate Whelan brb
6:33pm Amanda Whosoever kk
6:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan back
6:36pm Amanda Whosoever oooo
6:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she say anything knew?
6:36pm Amanda Whosoever got another screen shot
6:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan new* lol I figured
6:37pm Amanda Whosoever LMAO! liars and gossips
6:39pm Amanda Whosoever she didnt block you's she blocked and then UNBLOCKED she lies right there!
6:42pm Evelyn Kate Whelan hope you don't mind me sharing these with Tim sense they involve him I didn't tell him it was you
6:42pm Amanda Whosoever GO AHEAD SIS! he deserves to know for when she tries to lie more she already tried it with you "who you got spying on me" lol
6:44pm Evelyn Kate Whelan the thing is she is falsely accusing him
6:45pm Amanda Whosoever yes she is indeed because she doesnt KNOW its him i feel bad now
6:45pm Evelyn Kate Whelan why?
6:46pm Amanda Whosoever cause its me not tim he doesnt deserve this
6:46pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't think what your doing is wrong this needs to come out tho Amanda
6:46pm Amanda Whosoever i just wonder is this what she did to me?
prob so she told me about you guys and didn't even know me well as far as "good" friends
6:47pm Amanda Whosoever man i cannot wait for her to run her mouth because im going to call her a liar and that's that no explanation just "you are a liar"
6:48pm Evelyn Kate Whelan that's not gonna help anything tho well it might help you feel better LOL
6:48pm Amanda Whosoever lmao that's what i was just going to say its not going to justify anything but it will make me feel better exactly what i was going to say LOL
she will just start drama with you I'm wondering if it's even worth it
6:50pm Amanda Whosoever she's building up to that she wants it SHE LOVES DRAMA
6:50pm Evelyn Kate Whelan of course I don't know what all you went through so I can't really say it's not worth it
6:50pm Amanda Whosoever what did tim say she's not worth it at all...my husband wants me to stop talking to her
6:51pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't blame him for wanting that lol too much stress
6:52pm Amanda Whosoever its like highschool all over again
6:52pm Evelyn Kate Whelan that's what drama is, it's stress and you know what it kinda makes me feel sorry for her cause it only shows she's really not happy
6:53pm Amanda Whosoever and why she's having anxiety and migraines i thought i could trust her eve i told her alot of personal shit about me and im pretty sure she told a few people i smoke (ehem) smoke... just to give me lack of credibility
6:54pm Evelyn Kate Whelan oh big deal lol it's healthy for you if it were legal here I would too
6:54pm
Amanda Whosoever sincitypreacher used to be all over my videos too, and sending me stuff now he won't even talk to me anymore.. im in canada lol its legal
6:54pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she can't say anything personal about me I have nothing to hide
6:55pm Amanda Whosoever im happy she quit smoking but way to make the smokers she has as friends feel like shit eh/ i can't afford that chantix stuff
6:55pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I mean I guess we all have things we don't want others or the world knowing but she don't know those things about me
6:55pm Amanda Whosoever lol well as of late I havent been talking to her actually since about april...
6:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she knows I drink I'm sure she will soon accuse me of being a drunkard lol
6:56pm Amanda Whosoever once i started to see what kind of person she was would only message me if there was info she wanted to know or to complain about others I said to hell with that...is this what she does to everyone? psht lol who's the accuser of the brethren
6:59pm Evelyn Kate Whelan right which I believe satan is actually FLESH/carnal mind, I don't believe he's an actual entity if she knew that she could add it to my heretical beliefs lol
6:59pm Amanda Whosoever LOL oh that makes sense more so than anything I've ever heard
well I am still contemplating it there are somethings that suggest spiritual entity activity within scripture, but to be honest I'm not so sure it's not metaphoric for something else....YET
7:02pm Amanda Whosoever but if anything that's definitely where he influences he has power over carnal mind and flesh if you look at it "fruits of the spirit" "works of the flesh"
7:02pm Evelyn Kate Whelan for the believer (for sure) that power has been destroyed so I think the believer needs to just awaken to that truth and live in it
7:03pm Amanda Whosoever fruits of the spirit is love joy peace goodness kindness patience self control faith and works of flesh are everything that is considered evil "AMEN!" :d OOPS lol capslock fail brb gonna switch to my phone
7:04pm Evelyn Kate Whelan when someone talks about sin ALL the time it reminds me of the beginning of
this verse>>For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh k
7:11pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I gotta get ready doing a hangout with my preterist friend Jerry tonight
7:29pm Amanda Whosoever Sorry had to straighten up a bit lol Have a good hangout hope you all are blessed by your conversation
7:54pm Evelyn Kate Whelan hey I got about five minutes before he starts it did she delete Jerrae?
7:57pm Amanda Whosoever Let me check No And Jerrae just made a video supporting her
7:59pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well it only shows four mutual friends and it shows Jerrae is still one of mine
she's not included in the mutual friends
8:00pm Amanda Whosoever Hmmm.... That's a bit odd Maybe she readded her? Cause she's still on her list. Lemme go to Jerrae's page She's still friends with her. Maybe you've been put on a restricted list?
8:02pm Evelyn Kate Whelan possibly anything new on tonya's page
8:04pm Amanda Whosoever Not that I can see *unless she made it so I can't see* lol This has made me sick... I had that crazy dave j come after me, I've been being spirit led lately and tonya isn't into that. I just feel like if I make a video people are going to attack me.
8:07pm Evelyn Kate Whelan just do what you feel led to do I gotta go talk to you later on
8:14pm Amanda Whosoever Kk cya soon sis August 12
12:31am Evelyn Kate Whelan U still awake?
12:41am Evelyn Kate Whelan Jerrae thinks I'm the one trying to divide?? funny she mentioned mental illnesses too wow oh well guess what I'm NOT going to retaliate
12:46am Amanda Whosoever What Jerrae is attacking you?!
12:46am Evelyn Kate Whelan no I mean retaliate against tonya she's painting a bad pic of me that I know ppl are buying I believe TIME reveals all things so no need to try and defend myself
"publicaly" although I'm tempted to make a vid and share EXACTLY what happened but NOPE not gonna do it, she wants that cause then her lil "she just wants to divide" she can try and make appear true I think in time ppl will see who wants to divide
12:51am Amanda Whosoever There are a few others online they are trying to weed out too, and they are dear friends of mine who believe the bible is not the written word of God, but they believe in every thing else to do with what is necessary for salvation. Its not bible rippers they read it all the time, but the relationship with Father is spirit and in truth. Sorry to tell u that but they have a diverse view point. And I respect & care for them. Jerrae & tonya are trying to expose them I guess?
12:51am Amanda Whosoever Don't put gas on the fire You'll give her more attention.
12:55am Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't believe that God WROTE the word I even believe some translations even tho the translators may not have intended to put their own bias' and interpretation on it, HOWEVER I still believe the message of the gospel and fulfilled eschatology are still very clear, don't worry I have friends who are even part of the "bible is the mark of the beast" crowd I talked to one on paltalk not to long ago and to be honest he loves the Lord he just HATES religion and see that ppl are using scripture to control. Jerrae said something
about not YOKING with unbelievers I think ppl take that way out of context and not to mention Jesus sup'd with sinners. I believe Jerrae actually has a good heart and cares for others but Tonya has a type of influence on her RIGHT now although I believe that will change in time
12:56am Evelyn Kate Whelan don't get me wrong I fully believe the scripture is INSPIRED but to act as if it has not translational error I have ot disagree with Christ is what saves NOT knowledge
12:59am Amanda Whosoever Inspired and I've got a very diverse view on it...I ask where's the inbetween years of Jesus being 12-33 and what he did all that time... *thats the kind of stuff I've been asking lately* ^AMEN^ I feel like I'm being backed into a corner by tonya. I spoke to a brother on yt and he said jerrae went silly on him and then stopped talking and now she's pointing her finger and he knows she is coming after him.
1:00am Evelyn Kate Whelan here's another "heretical" belief for ya and thank God I didn't reveal some of these things to Tonya because she prob would have misrepresented them. I do not believe that if someone doesn't ever hear the gospel their not saved. I believe Jesus reveals Himself through LOVE the bible even states that you can know a believer by their love for one another. To act as if someone HAS to believe the written record of the redemption plan of Christ is denying that those who never hear it can be saved SORRY don't believe that, what about all the ppl such as native americans that died prior to ever hearing it?
1:01am Evelyn Kate Whelan However I DO believe that once someone who knows Christ through love hears that gospel if they ever do it will be accepted by them
1:02am Amanda Whosoever Oh wow Eve! We started talkin for a reason. That's what I believe too! I said our Father is Love MERCY Grace, all that is GOOD. I don't like how Religion paints Him out to be bipolar (duel in nature)
1:02am Evelyn Kate Whelan lol me either I'm even unsure on universalism right now my mind is telling me NO it's not right but my heart is saying STUDY IT to be sure you may think it's not true based on your religious upbringing there is also a part of me that don't want all to be saved like wicked wicked ppl HOWEVER I can not let that bias get in the way of truth IF it is true I have a love of the truth that supersedes my bias
1:06am Evelyn Kate Whelan for now I when I share my believes it's that ppl HAVE to believe the gospel to be saved but Amanda I really have to study universalism because there is a possibility that Jesus did MORE then we even know and saved all of mankind, of course this does play into my eschatological beliefs however don't get wrong ideas their are universalist preterist but not ALL and even the
MAJORITY from what I've seen are NOT
1:08am Amanda Whosoever Does ALL mean ALL? I've looked into universalism some..I gotta admit... Well I still remember when Michael came on Tonya's hangout and every one freaked out... (She states "we should be able to talk to people like "I" did a preterist") she didn't handle a universalist too well. Lmao!
1:11am Evelyn Kate Whelan well I'm not sure I believe "all" in some passages were referring to ALL of Israel that was OF Israel however universalist have a good case although ppl who are not also have a good case SOO I need to look into both sides study scripture and come to my own conclusion
1:11am Amanda Whosoever I can't believe "bible trivia" night on the 7th she was "soo sweet" to you. And then whammo 3 days later outta nowhere. Well when you do let me know what's up
1:14am Evelyn Kate Whelan Yes I tried being as nice as I could to Michael, I did wonder cause like I said I'm sticking to how I see it now to the Lord changes that I disagreed that he didn't understand the redemption plan but as far as some of the points he made i agreed and I told him I did. I do agree he "ran" it a lil like he should've allowed more ppl into the convo he was prob a bit defensive from the
beginnning
1:15am Evelyn Kate Whelan I can understand why he was tho, he was dealing with ppl who have bias' and are indoctrinated not willing to question that indoctrination, the first night I got on with my "end time" belief I was really scared cause I knew I was the only one LOL I hope I didn't sound too harsh with him sometimes I felt I had to over speak him to get a word in and share my belief I agree with him on carnal mind, on hell, and on the church system having ppl where they won't question August 12
1:27pm Amanda Whosoever He's used to it, I unfriended him because tonya got all bent outta shape that I was defending him over her... And yadda yadda yadda. You were pretty brave to step up as the only one defending your view on endtime prophecy so how was your hangout lastnight?
3:08pm Amanda Whosoever I totally passed out with my inbox message open lastnight rotfl only bad thing about mostly accessing fb on a cellphone. Sorry it took me so long to get back to ya
sorry it took a while I had my sons therapist here
3:12pm Amanda Whosoever Its ok I know how busy parenthood is
3:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Anything new going on
3:33pm Amanda Whosoever Not really, she's being all sweet she put a status about being comforted by romans 8 and says she loves everyone even those she got mad at yesterday even though she don't trust yas as far as she could throw you. But honestly Eve I've had 2 ppl msg me on here & yt asking me about her....they have a bad feeling. She's doing this favorites thing.... And I want no part of it. I love everyone equally no favorites. Too many divisions.... She won't talk to me once she knows how I feel about the bible. I haven't even read her message asking me if I'm ok. Nor am I gonna open it so she sees I read it. There is major insecurity issues with her.... The people who messaged me described her personality to a T and don't even know her... Publicly she's my "best friend" but she's not willing to be that friend for real. Its all a show. The fact that she lies and twists shit to suit her needs doesn't sit well with me at all. I can't be bothered with that. She told everyone tim called her an african dictator I just about pissed myself reading that. Ahahahaha! I may lay down I have this killer headache at the moment and my kids are resting so its my one & only opportunity.
3:35pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I understand the two ppl that messaged you are they CONCERNED as far as what she will do next or their own relationship with her or what? bbl get some rest
3:37pm Amanda Whosoever They don't trust her intentions....
4:12pm Evelyn Kate Whelan understandable
5:15pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Hope your okay Amanda, I'm sorry about Tonya.
7:44pm Amanda Whosoever I'm ok it just sure don't feel good to have all this stuff happen all at once... I have a pounding headache and am worried about Don's daughter. And I'm super leery of any mutual friends I have with tonya. She just messaged me again saying "hey I know your busy but when you get a chance to chat I want to ask you something. Love ya " *ya no thank you* that's her way of trapping me. I know her tactics. Then she posted some picture about not begging someone to stay in your life and the gift of goodbye opening other doors.
7:45pm Evelyn Kate Whelan just do what you feel is best Amanda, do you get a lot of headaches?
7:46pm Amanda Whosoever When I don't wear my glasses like I'm supposed to lol
7:47pm Evelyn Kate Whelan oh ok I was just gonna ask if your homes been tested for mold if you did or if your addicted to caffeine lol
7:48pm Amanda Whosoever Ya that is definite I am a coffee drinker lol I'm trying to cut back on it... And I hope you know I wasn't including you in that "mutual friend" thing about tonya etc.
7:49pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm glad to know that, at the same time I wouldn't fault you if you did you barely know me. Time tells all things
7:50pm Amanda Whosoever You were level with me from the get go. Not most people would admit they said they can't stand my videos lol now that's honest to me.
7:51pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I felt bad for saying it and I can't hold onto guilt or feeling like I've wronged someone.
7:51pm Amanda Whosoever That's the Spirit of Truth within you a good quality given by our Father is honesty.
7:52pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Even tho it sux what happened between me and Tonya that is something I do NOT feel guilty or wrong about so there will be NO apology given to her for anything because one's not needed. But when I said that about you I wasn't getting the full story so it should have never been said.
7:57pm Amanda Whosoever She has the tendancy to get people to talk smack about others, you end up thinking its just "girl chat" and here its something she'll use against you. Like right now if I mentioned (not saying I would) but as an example if I said so why did you lie and tell me you only talked to Donna about our last fight? (She would automatically say oh who did you hear this from Eve?) And then she'd say all the bad things you said about me. That's what kind of person she is vindictive.
I didn't say anything bad about you except what I told you I mostly just encouraged her to do what she feels is right. I do think however that she would use it against you and I both and start gossiping on how we are gossiping together lol if that makes sense
9:15pm Amanda Whosoever It totally makes sense lol I'm so done with this highschool bullshit. I saw a comment she left on Jerrae's video saying we have been friends for years.... Um.... March it was a year since we've been "friends" I looked back on my YT channel.
9:19pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Why did she even mention you?
9:20pm Amanda Whosoever I'll copy paste what she puut.... Cause Jerrae & Jeanette were all lovey dovey besties. Tonya has serious insecurity issues. Brb gonna go grab the comment. (On my phone or I'd screen shot it)
9:21pm Amanda Whosoever galaxydreams319 hours ago seeing ya'lls friendship make my just want to cry! (happy tears!) My heart is just so filled with joy that you two have found eachother. I was blessed enough to find a soul mate sister (believerinchrist83) here on youtube years ago and we have had a couple big bumps but Praise God we made it. lol I love that girl more than words can even say. I am closer to her than my own sister! The enemy will try to break you up but dont you care let him!! I am
just speaking from experience. I love you BOTH!
9:23pm Amanda Whosoever That is a Load of "Look at Me I'm so Good" BS eve.... For real. She's cleaning the outside of her cup and not worrying about the inside, she's aiming to be seen of men....I do NOT appreciate that she attached my name. I have NO favorites. I am not one specific "soul sister" to any ONE person. all to cause division.
9:23pm Evelyn Kate Whelan wow she's something else huh?
9:23pm Amanda Whosoever And to publicly put it out there that if she mentions her best friend ppl can find out who that is now.... or to LOOK like she thought we were Best friends.
9:23pm Evelyn Kate Whelan who's the enemy she speaks of...me? um yeah
9:24pm Amanda Whosoever Nope they are having a convo about the devil & demons...
9:25pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she said that on a vid?
9:26pm Amanda Whosoever I will NOT have others think "oh she likes tonya better" all they have to do is see I haven't commented on Any of her videos in almost a month.... If not longer. I don't do this division bs. I have friends I've had on here since before I knew her like Jerry Gathier, Jennifer Daves, and a few others.... They stick with me regardless to if I conform to their beliefs or not. They let me be me!
9:27pm Amanda Whosoever She put it on a comment on Jerrae's "support video for galaxydreams"
9:27pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yes, FREEDOM oh
9:28pm Amanda Whosoever I'm annoyed by this shit... For real...its clingy its stalkerish its immature. And if I make a video I'm liable to flip my freakin lid. The path of destruction being laid out all for Religion? Dogmatism (that's she is SO against?) BULLFREAKINSHIT Sorry I'm pissed....
9:29pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I understand I use to be friends with Jeanette on here she deleted me...not sure why she never gave me a reason and I never asked
9:31pm Amanda Whosoever Just recently she deleted you?
9:31pm Evelyn Kate Whelan The thing is she knows some of my past and it worries me that the info will get out past is past tho so oh well
9:32pm Amanda Whosoever Hmmmm....how recent did she ditch u?
9:32pm Evelyn Kate Whelan nope this was months ago if not a year ago no it wasn't a year ago, cause I just came into fulfilled eschatology so it was about 4 mths ago
9:32pm Amanda Whosoever Jerrae.... *they've developed this obsessive exclusive friendship* I guess that's why tonya likes jerrae so much same personalities. Ffs what is with these LITTLE girls in women bodies?
9:33pm Amanda Whosoever They seriously need to put on the grown up pants....
9:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I should have asked Jeanette why she deleted me but seriously I didn't even realize she did til I saw her comment on Jerrae's vid a couple weeks ago and I was like "hey wait don't I have her on facebook" looked her up and NOPE she deleted me Tonya blocked me from her page again
9:39pm Amanda Whosoever LMFAO!!!!!!! Unrighteous tongue is here.... What a childish bitch
9:43pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Jerrae Lyn 7 hours ago yeah....I just saw your recent videos....you have some snakes on your arse sis....but no worries...many of our praying for you....and woe to them who are doing this....its dangerous for them to do so...but that is the choice they make....I love you and support you....and I don't agree with everything my brothers and sisters say etc...but our common bond is Jesus...our Father ...and we are all running the same race to the finish line to the feet of our Savior.....Your doing good sis..hang tough:) Reply in reply to galaxydreams3
9:47pm Amanda Whosoever Ya what the heck ever miss jerrae dabling in the occult says and bla bla bla bla she threw me under the bus and clung onto tonya. I truly am sick of being called decieved or a snake or whatever I've been called believerinsatan last year Ya I guess I'm bitter eh? Sorry :s
9:49pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it's ok this is how religious folk are I try to remember I was once there and I'm no better I've done ppl this way (not ever like Tonya) in the past. Thinking they were heretics calling them out, however I've NEVER ever befriended someone and treated them as poorly as Tonya has and I would never do that.
I've learned to disagree with love and not condemnation
10:10pm Amanda Whosoever Religion is absolute POISON
10:12pm Amanda Whosoever There is too much being ADDED to the salvation plan. Wowee I just tried to record a video...not nice... I'm gonna end up flippin out either way
10:13pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol I understand how that feels most of my vids from a year ago up til now besides fulfilled eshcatology and music vids are inspired by the legalist couple (soldiersofthecross) that I was involved in their legalism is subtle that is why it sucked me in
What's required for salvation Eve? To believe Jesus is the only begotten son of God born of a virgin and that he came in the flesh died for our sins and was resurrected 3 days later. Anything else added is hogwash. I was sucked into them too soldierofthecross
10:17pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Well Amanda I'm not even so sure someone HAS TO KNOW that to have an inward faith of God and be saved I'm speaking of those who have never heard of course, I also think ppl are pretty much saved when they start inwardly from the heart seeking God it's a HEART matter not a head or knowledge one
10:17pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I can't judge other's salvation only God can Tonya would flip her wig if she heard me say that lol
10:19pm Amanda Whosoever Sorry but I believe firmly in the fact that there are many whom will never see a bible (as u stated) and therefore they will never confess that its the written word of God, and many know Jesus as the Son of God (Emmanuel God with us) so they won't end up confessing Jesus as God.... For people to put standards added to the simplicity is horseshit. My kids even said "Jesus is the son of God mommy, and GOD is the Father" and both my younger two have had quite a few encounters with Christ. I'd sooner believe an innocent child's experience than these religious harlots anyday... Sorry I'm in a rant mode...
If I make that video ppl is gonnna be mad at me rotfl
10:19pm Amanda Whosoever Aaaaaaaaaamen!!!!!!!!!! Well Eve we're both heretics lol according to the new "clique" Imma lose some subs me thinks lol
10:21pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol we would be heretics in any generation really Amanda cause religion has always been around although Christ destroyed that system ppl have to wake up to that and stop living in religion and live in Him just do what you feel is right if you don't think you should make the vid don't if you do then go for it!!
10:23pm Amanda Whosoever It would be so much better if they'd put religion down! What killed Christ? Religion... Don't they get it? What did the Pharisee's use against Him? The scriptures.... And Jesus told them you are in error... And gave them parables.... Why? Because the simple minded would understand those theologists those who gotta make it complicated would try and make it sound like something it never meant... Ugh... "Become like little children" would have the kids these days understand the studies??? Wow (I'm lit up tonight) LOL!
10:29pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yes little children although some stay on the milk and are not getting the right nutrition August 13
1:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Hi Amanda
2:09pm Amanda Whosoever Hey Eve how are ya today?
2:16pm Evelyn Kate Whelan good thanks I seen one of your status' don't know the person you lost but wanted to tell ya I'm sorry to hear it and will pray for ya
2:17pm Amanda Whosoever He was an awesome brother in Christ its everyone's loss yet Heavens gain I wept at first but realize he wouldn't even accept us all being sad that he's in glory right now.
Amen death is only the beginning for those in Christ
2:20pm Amanda Whosoever Truth right there sis August 13
9:53pm Amanda Whosoever Thank you for boosting me when I needed it sister means more to me than you know.
10:44pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yw that is what we are SUPPOSE to do for one another
10:50pm Evelyn Kate Whelan many "bros" and "sisters" discourage instead of encourage, they control instead of cheering you on to find your own conclusions and truth in Christ, John wrote the church and told them they needed no teacher, the pastors and leaders of today SHOULD BE telling ppl to do their own studies encourage them to search the scriptures themselves and let the Lord lead not TEACH them their bias dogma
10:56pm
Amanda Whosoever Tonya has discovered a comment I left on Scott Evans video about some people not liking who I socialize with but Father loves them too...etc. It was sweet and not to do with Her... It was me being stalked by this Dave J guy and saying I'm a liar and a false witness and full of a jinn because I associate with what he says are liars and false witnesses. She then messages me on here.... I only saw a portion because I haven't opened it so she sees "seen" on it lol. But she is asking if I think that video she made was about me... Or is she paranoid.. And THEN I get an email....
11:01pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm not sure exactly what went on with you two but I just think you should do as you feel, I know one thing for certain if she ever added me back which I doubt I would accept but there would be no attempt for me to closely bond with her, I don't care for drama in my life, it has enough stresses on it's own. This is only what I'd do, I don't know how she has treated you and EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, so do feel I'm sharing what I would do to convince you of the same, just sharing my thoughts and showing that, that girl is full of drama even tho I don't know her REALLY REALLY well
11:02pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Just don't let anyone suck the life/Spirit out of you
11:08pm Amanda Whosoever Thank you Eve (Our Father has made you wise)
12:17am Evelyn Kate Whelan do you know blueeyedjen?
12:24am Amanda Whosoever No I don't why?
12:25am Evelyn Kate Whelan just wondering I was looking for Jerrae's channel to see if she made any new vids and she commented on this blueeyedjen girls video and the girl had been hurt by a christian friend (hmm go figure) was wondering if it could have been Tonya but then she said HE so I knew it wasn't
12:34am Evelyn Kate Whelan It's basically cause that is what happened with soldiersofthecross I noticed that many ppl who were once friends of theirs were no longer friends and when everything went down between me and soldiersofthecross I had ppl getting a hold of me and I them and finding out they had been hurt by them too
12:35am Evelyn Kate Whelan
thats why I wonder if Tonya has more "victims" I had a REALLY difficult time going through that with SOTC maybe we can talk about it sometime even had two dreams the week I told them I was distancing myself that I KNOW was related to what I was going through and I hardly ever have significant dreams bbl August 14
3:57pm Evelyn Kate Whelan exactly vid brought tears to my eyes oops excellent*
4:00pm Amanda Whosoever I had tears... My little sister who has very different views than I do posted it. Its what we are lacking Love... People constantly looking at why we are different, instead of what makes us the same. People always being so greedy to take take take take but rarely give back.... my heart was already broken for this Earth... And ALL creatures that dwell in it... Seeing that video made me realize how truly cold humanity has become.
4:02pm Amanda Whosoever It was a must share. I'm sure tonya will msg me again today because I uploaded that and was online and haven't responded to her, but in all reality I hope she just moves on because I don't want to feel angry anymore. There's too much petty stuff
that truly doesn't matter such as these "divisions, and the drama" I'm not angry with her anymore I just am angry with the unnecessary boundries being set up by "religious" views.
4:09pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I understand completely and agree Don't let other ppl take any of your joy, peace, hope, love, and care for this world, the creatures in this world and that includes yourself. I think many are waking up to the truth that love is what we need not division and not letting differences cause division
4:14pm Evelyn Kate Whelan the elite are the ones that want us to be divided their tactics are working on so many, they use politics, race, and RELIGION among other things to divide us. I for one believe it is not necessary for us to give up our own personal beliefs to recognize the importance of putting to the forefront that we need to focus on what we ALL have in common and that is that we ALL bleed red, come together UNITE and fight (peacefully) for what is right...freedom and love
4:20pm Amanda Whosoever Amen sis, I'm not trying to hurt tonya and perhaps I should send her an email explaining why I cannot be what she wants from me.... We may be the same in a lot of ways but her views are different than mine... When Our Father woke me up He showed me a piece of His heart... The Love He feels for us.... That's what matters the most
Not all the reasons for destruction. People are looking for an escape via the rapture... Why should we escape? This is what we've all as humanity have done to this planet instead of them cowardly looking for a way out why don't they stand up... And stand against evil? The evil that continues to consume mankind... There is power in numbers even if a group of 1 million people gathered for a cause that was to restore health to the planet the homeless the suffering the animals and their habitat... Then it could spread and 1 million would be 5 million then to 100 million... Eventually the power of compassion and love would be seen and felt and heard... God did not put us here to be walked on and to let Death invade this planet... So many people don't see it. If Animals can live peacefully amongst each other why can't humans? Itd be like having Polar Bears live as a dominant race on the planet... They would work together to sustain their live as good as they can... Humans are the only race that destroys not only themselves but everything else around, the wildlife, the habitat etc... I'm very passionate for this.
4:20pm Amanda Whosoever That's right!!!! You Got it Sister!
4:26pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Amanda your very very correct I wish more could see BUT God is showing them, your not a preterist and you don't have to be but fulfilled eschatology
is what made me realize that WE ARE His Kingdom He reigns within His ppl and so it is US that must change things in a positive constructive loving way. They are looking for a way to escape Amanda because the elite have used religion most think it's the end times, it's inevitable, it's part of God's plan, and we can do nothing to stop it. It's what I call a defeatist attitude. I understand what you said about Tonya I feel the same way. It's easy for me to let go of situations like that as well because many just have not woken up yet to ALL of Truth. I can be a bit nosy sometimes and want to know what's being said about me or where someones beliefs are headed BUT I hold no animocity I mean what is the point it only creates misery.
4:27pm Evelyn Kate Whelan what I mean by All of Truth isn't that I think I know it all but that WE are the ones that have to act on love and change the world. Many are waiting for Jesus to return and do it for us but He's within us Also it don't have to take millions atleast not at first all that we need to begin change is a VOICE, ONE voice is enough to show others truth.
4:36pm Amanda Whosoever WOW Eve you just blew my mind, that's what Our Father has shown me...stop looking for me up in the sky...I'm IN you...let me shine forth I feel awful for the youngest generation because what we need to do is get unhooked from technology (not completely) but we as humanity need to get reconnected to each other... If people would stop staring at the news and tv saying "its out of our control, or its all in God's hands" and actually said "we have to do something about this, even if we die in the process" I'm starting to see how the "devil" works in flesh, in carnality, in all that is the opposite of love, with the greed, and selfishness.
4:39pm
Evelyn Kate Whelan Yep, the one major thing I see good about technology is the internet and it is only because it's not just bias info being streamed all the time like tv. HOWEVER I do think it can take the place of communication between our loved ones that we can speak to face to face. There are def pros and cons a good balance is what we need. So I certainly agree. I can see why the Lord led you where He did He is waking up a lot of ppl. It's wonderful!! Keep your head up ppl are starting to see that love is the answer.
4:40pm Amanda Whosoever I've stopped believing in the rapture... I don't know if its my indigenous heritage but ever since I was a little girl I wanted to go back to the old days where we lived off the land and raised animals and killed them respectably.. We used every part of the kill the fur, the skin, the bones, and then gave the remains to other animals that were hungry... Just like the natives did. I always wanted the farm life and to live awayy from technology & city life.. Then I turned 15 and I lost that desire and moved to the city... I wish our Father would cause this world to be forced to go back, forced to help each other..but the current condition of the planet mankind would not go back easily itd be panic, and greed it would be killing each other.. Its got to be a gradual change... But it must start somewhere.
4:41pm Amanda Whosoever That's exactly it technology has helped in a way to communicate with those not in our every day physical life however has created a detachment from us viewing what is "real" and "needed" now...
Wow this is awesome to have this talk with you There are definitely pros and cons, most definitely... Mankind uses in excess and then wastes and abuses the gifts we are given... Sigh. Let us pray more people let Father come alive in them not to attach him to religion but to feel his moral law written on our hearts
4:46pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I know longer see it as gradual, I really truly believe ppl are waking up everywhere yes not as quickly as we all would like cause if it were up to me they would all recognize this truth RIGHT NOW lol, I do think there has to be a level of spiritual growth hope it don't sound arrogant, and I'm not speaking of just christians with spiritual growth, but just the individual recognizing what this life is truly about. We are not suppose to be here just to believe that our actual lives start when we die, we are suppose to see that life starts from birth and although death is only the beginning of our life PURELY in the spiritual realm the very beginning of our spiritual journey is here on earth. We should be helping others to discover their inner selves I know that sounds new agy to be honest I have no prob calling myself a new age, the new age is what Jesus brought. There are a lot of things with the new age belief I see as truth the only disagreement I have is when they leave out Jesus Christ HOWEVER it seems to me Amanda that some without Jesus sees believes and lives the outcome Jesus created while others who have Jesus has yet to see what He accomplished.
4:54pm Evelyn Kate Whelan this is the whole reason why I've been thinking of taking my expose vids down and why I told Tonya this, I understand where she is at in wanting to warn others, and normally I would have left it alone but she asked me what I thought of her vid on the couple and I approved it when she made the second vid on the Elders I realized I might not have done the right thing, So I told her, I don't think she understands and is why it got way out of hand, but we ALL have to go through our own journeys even the deception I went through I KNOW I was SUPPOSE to go through it. Anyways many don't want to hear
these things Amanda because of fear, it goes against everything they've been taught, and fear of the unknown, starting all over again ect ect
5:05pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Beloved, jlet us love one another, for love is from God, and kwhoever loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 lAnyone who does not love does not know God, because mGod is love. I copied and pasted not sure why the extra letters are in front of some the words lol
5:06pm Amanda Whosoever I hope this makes sense : If I didn't go through the deceptions I did I would never have realized I am human not a star child, not a pleadian, not an indigo child, Father brought me to understanding that the reason sin exists is because its opposite of love. Its opposite of truth, its everything that our Father didn't want for us. He created us to manifest His Love. My heart breaks to see the lack of understanding... Do you notice how many people are afraid of the word "manifest" In Christianity especially? I sound pretty "new age" myself these days... Lol But I agree with you Jesus did teach new age, because old age is religious doctrine, and killing others whom are different or whom fail to follow the "rules" The reason adultery is wrong is because you are hurting your spouse, its not a love act.
The reason lies are wrong is because you are hurting those you lie to by not being honest. The reason murder (even hatred in the heart) is wrong is because its not of Love.. You don't take away life or wish to do harm (which is the original meaning of evil) if you are walking in Father's glorious light of Love. People completely miss the purpose of the commandments... And forget they are written on our hearts... We are built with them inside. It compels us to do what's right. I do not fear because I now know more spiritual truth than I ever did before. I didn't realize that even in my childhood as a non believer I was listening to Father's morality, He had me be blunt and brave and full of truth and love, especially forgiveness. (This isn't to sound conceited either) just to realize I knew what Christ accomplished very young but didn't understand why evil exists and how its part of our growth to learn how to love unconditionally. Those who never learn this will be refined to a nothing state.. Not to an eternal hell. The good inside is what is refined... All the bad is burned away to a nothingness. They are impurities in our spirit, And its Father's gold our refined and matured spirit that has learned the lesson to love.
5:12pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Not to an eternal hell. The good inside is what is refined... All the bad is burned away to a nothingness.>>>>I agree 100% and tho I know we are not under the law including the ten commandments what I mean is we no longer have to fear death by stoning or death by physical
judgment from God, Jesus took all the wrath with that said your absolutely right about those commandments Romans I believe 13 tells us to love one another is the fulfillment of the law James calls it the ROYAL law so here is the thing we aren't bound by it we don't have to fear death if we break one we don't have to live by obligation of those laws BUT that those laws kept by us are only the RESULT of love.
5:14pm Evelyn Kate Whelan It's the right thing to do it's the result of loving humanity AND it's the very nature of God Himself
5:24pm Amanda Whosoever And conviction is to be learned by to realize we did something that wasn't loving (aka guilt) but a lot of these religions make you feel obligated to get down on ur knees to repent. When in reality the humility comes from inside. Father sees our heart, he knows if we are sorry for what we did that caused us to lose the JOY of our salvation. NOT our actual salvation. People don't take the time to see the major truth behind scripture & whether it be metaphorical or literal, we must understand and apply it to our lives. Its what Jesus spoke through the apostles... And gave as His message from Father. We all have Father IN us because of Christ's finished work. We are born with Father's spirit in us but when we realize truth of His immense Love for us for some its Jesus' selfless love sacrifice, for those who never hear of Christ it may be something different that wakes them but something is seriously stirred within us. My first video was what I had to go back to (to realize where I had come from) because in the last year I've lost touch with what Father showed me in the
beginning after weeding through what the worlds standard of being a "christian" (ergh) confusion everywhere. And ta dah who is the author of confusion? Not our Father. Religion regardless to what it is about is NOT of Him nor did He create it.
5:26pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I agree I was only about 3 when I got saved, grew up in a Christian home but religion came with it, so I couldn't really go to the beginning I had to learn it if that makes sense
5:31pm Amanda Whosoever I know what you mean See that's what shows us we are "ALL" different Who is any one man to say any of us are wrong? The whole point is to get to where we need to be and that's the realization of Love and how LOVE gives Life...and helps maintain it. Totally off topic but I remember way back almost 2 years ago I watched this video of 3 plants grown and one was labelled LOVE, HATE and REJECTED The Love one thrived (the person spoke to it every day loving words) The Hate one grew all twisted and unhealthy (the person spoke to it hatefilled words every day) The Rejected one was ignored the whole time and it didn't sprout or grow at all.... What does that' show?
I wonder if that's true I mean I know it's true for us but about the actual plants I think I heard about this one time
5:35pm Amanda Whosoever The power of words & feelings
5:36pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah
5:36pm Amanda Whosoever If you talk to your plants in a garden they thrive much better I think that's super cool lol
5:37pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I wish I knew how to grow a garden....I'm not very good with plants although I think their beautiful
5:42pm Amanda Whosoever Start small dirt seeds, water them and keep them in the sun, when they sprout they will need to be kept in the sun & watered... Don't over water them and don't let them dry out... All you can do is try and practice makes perfect
Like I said start small its very rewarding I don't recommend big gardens because they get weeds and bugs and for a beginner gardener its very disheartening to see your plants die.
5:43pm Evelyn Kate Whelan my dad grows two HUGE gardens a year I mean I would deem it a mini farm lol it's got EVERYTHING in it His wife is very good at it though so she taught him how to keep it maintained
6:07pm Amanda Whosoever you got it in your blood then lol Ill be back later on doin supper August 14
10:46pm Amanda Whosoever Did you see jerrae's video?
10:46pm Evelyn Kate Whelan going to check all that out right now is it a new one?
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Amanda Whosoever I have only one person I'm speaking to who "supposedly" agreed with our point of views of tonya & what she's doing with friends of mine & with jerrae.... So if I find out this is the chick that is the "little birdy" I aint gonna be too impressed. She has been distant with me the last 24 hours... And Jerrae has wall posted some mushy stuff on her wall this morning. Beware....be very aware.
10:48pm Evelyn Kate Whelan their on the journey Amanda there is much I don't agree with, with them I mean a LOT sometimes in the hangouts when discussing doctrine I just remained quiet other times I'd express my differing view it seems the only thing I agree with them on is salvation the thing is I'm really not sure how much I do tho LOL
10:48pm Amanda Whosoever About gossiping
10:49pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I've seen a couple of Jerrae's post I seen one that said something about not being to prideful to admit your wrong I thought it was pretty and also think that should be told to Tonya so I pushed like lol other then that I don't know Jerrae very well and we've only talked a couple times I actually told her that I didn't fully disagree with her friend Michael on that
one hangout
10:51pm Amanda Whosoever She will keep you around just to make sure you aint talkin shit about tonya. Just beware... My defenses have gone up full tilt.
10:51pm Evelyn Kate Whelan that was the day after and haven't spoken to her sense
10:51pm Amanda Whosoever I unfriended Michael to please tonya....how stupid!
10:51pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Amanda I really don't give a shit if she runs her mouth or not to be honest LOL
10:52pm Amanda Whosoever Little Highschool girls in Women bodies....
DRRRAAAAMMMAAAA I like to be "in the know" to know what they are up to if they are really spiritually growing/maturing and so I do check in with them but as far as being close I can't go there.
10:53pm Amanda Whosoever Excuse me while I go puke from it all <--kidding YUCK!
10:53pm Evelyn Kate Whelan some ppl never depart from religion and I think it's sad I can't be close to dogmatic ppl I noticed Tonya was on an "expose" roll Tonya did a google hangout tonight their still going
10:57pm Amanda Whosoever She is gonna expose ana aej777 too Man if you read her comments from the last day she's being rude... I think jerrae is pumping her up to not give a shit about mine and her friendship. And I'm happy she is happy to move on but to expect me to get in the middle of their circle (clique) cause that's what it is.... And then centre me out publicly saying we're SOUL sisters or assume a comment I make is about her.... I really could do without the highschool bullshit.
10:58pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Oh wow one of my preterist youtube buddies are on there...don't think she knows he is tho LOL
10:58pm Amanda Whosoever Yes she is finding God in the bible... And gaining "fellowship" and using Fudge to lure people in ROTFLMAO.... Sorry I had to *im a total bitch right now* This is my pre "period" week...my mood isn't a good one. Damn hormones.
10:59pm Evelyn Kate Whelan the fudge is a bit tempting ahahahaha
10:59pm Amanda Whosoever She don't care she's luring whoever will come to her trivia fun with Fudge (that'll suck anyone in) hahahahahahahahahaahhaha LMAO exactly!!!! XD I almost went on XD
11:00pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well it could be an attempt to try and say "I'm not really against preterism"
well preterists you know try to make me look bad
11:01pm Amanda Whosoever With her you never know these days
11:04pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm not sure if it wasn't preterism that made her delete me Amanda what the hell was the comments about me being heretical about? because all of my beliefs stem from me believing Jesus has already accomplished ALL things Man I just thought about it I'm sure she told Alex what I said about him and now I feel bad I asked her if he as ADHD or something she said she thought so and I said okay cause it's a bit hard to keep up with him
11:09pm Amanda Whosoever she has a big mouth....and her and Alex are close
11:09pm Evelyn Kate Whelan geez you can't tell anyone anything these days, I'm even a bit scared to tell you stuff but I also know you think a lot like me
11:10pm
Amanda Whosoever She wanted an excuse to delete you Eve... Calling you a mentally unstable nutjob (yet made it plural so she could have easily meant me too) has NOTHING to do with doctrinal beliefs, or even moral beliefs.... How was you giving her a level answer making you unstable or a nutjob.... She's an asshole for saying that.
11:11pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Oh I just seen the title of Jerrae's vid LOL that should be directed at Tonya funny how the accusers are usually the ones doing what they accuse of
11:11pm Amanda Whosoever You know what Eve you trust me with whatever you feel comfortable telling me, I'm not out to hurt others. But I haven't been able to talk about this stuff with tonya to anyone who fully understands (no one has gone through it or seen it) Makes me feel like I'm going crazy cause everyone sees her sweet lil front.
11:12pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Well now you have me because we both went through it just wait Amanda more will be hurt by her as well if they haven't already and we just don't know them she's gonna expose herself BUT the religious will still accept her
because truthfully Amanda MOST of them are the same way those who think outside of the box are always tied to the stake by the religious ppl
11:15pm Amanda Whosoever Here's one too I just said this to my mom (spirit mom) Cindy When she went to Ohio for 3 weeks she didn't contact me more than 2 times short replies and I didn't spazz out.... But if I don't answer her immediately she loses it? Lol I spent a lot of time with my kids the last 3 days and that felt good, away from the "drama" or as she would say "I have children I am busy" (her word was a baby not children) lol its ok for her to be but not anyone else psht....
11:16pm Amanda Whosoever I notice her subs keep going up and up and I've lost a few in the last couple days *not that I care about that* Honestly Eve I wouldn't tell you all of what I have if I was worried about you going back and telling others Something about you I connect with and that's cool beans to me
11:17pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well I don't know her well but just cause of my past with SOTC if someone goes crazy if I don't respond I'm always wondering if their trying to control me
*that defines tonya* And it honestly has freaked me out Eve... Its possessive and obsessive and I don't like it. Neither does my husband
11:19pm Evelyn Kate Whelan SOTC was always going looney if I didn't respond to them or get a hold of them in a 24hr period they'd be like "Eve whats wrong we know somethings wrong God showed us" God showed you? showed you that I have 3 kids one is autistic so sometimes I'm not on the pc as much or that God showed you I caught onto your control tactics? lol
11:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it's crazy what I went through with them ttwo
11:22pm Amanda Whosoever I cannot be sucked in by drama. I truly can't and even telling anyone about this feels like I'm involving myself with drama. But it feels like if I don't talk about it my heart will be affected and my mind will go bonkers if I don't. Sorry I've vented so much in the last couple days. But truly when I saw what she did to you I went WTF is that? And first place my mind went was is this what she did to me on her FB when we fought or how she spoke about me? And just cleaned up her wall before adding me back?
11:22pm Evelyn Kate Whelan they even made vids trying to make me feel guilty, I missed their bible study to take my kids to a theme park the next day they had a vid about how riding roller coasters was a sin because it pleased the flesh and the next week it was swimming and I also played vid games and they made vids about that, it's crazy I actually caught John straight up in a lie
11:23pm Amanda Whosoever John and Sharon became a little crazy with me too...but I blocked them on my old acct fast and said not getting involved with that I'm so sorry you went through that with them
11:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan seeing her actions with me Amanda I would not doubt it the only thing that might make me consider that she didn't was that she knew you better then me but that means nothing, btw I've never deleted someone out of anger and i think it's wrong, I'm the one that distanced myself from SOTC but they are the ones that deleted me and it actually hurt
11:24pm Amanda Whosoever LMAO!!!!!! Riding rollercoasters is a sin.... oh Lord have mercy on these people.
11:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan LOL
I know that is when it became obvious to me
11:24pm Amanda Whosoever You know of Connie Key?
11:25pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Yes she's religious too but I have her on my facebook there is something I really like about her she went through a lil legalism but I believe she will be going through more for her to totally ditch religion most of God's children will have to have a serious dose of legalism to get away from religion some God shows in other ways I like Connie but I do think she's still a bit dogmatic
11:27pm Amanda Whosoever Well when I was involved with SOTC Connie pulled me away from them... But then she got all silly with me. A lot of these older religious or mature religious stick their nails into new believers... Idk what it is freaks me out Eve.
11:27pm Evelyn Kate Whelan they want disciples unto themselves How can Tonya even agree with this vid? That's sad
That vid should be completely directed at Tonya
11:33pm Amanda Whosoever Tonya is clinging to everyone she can.... If I was to post a face video she'll be emailing me fbing me and blocking me rotfl.... Stalker man stalker
11:34pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I just think it's sad how can ppl think what she did publically posting my pm's is okay even if they disagreed with my pm? how can they act like THAT isn't gossip? She said basically that we can't come together with ppl that we have spiritual differing beliefs, I disagree I believe we can put our differences aside to better this world. ppl want cliques sorry I know you said you feel if you talk about these things your putting yourself into the drama I should not tell it to you lol, I don't like to be in the drama but I do like to stay up on what's going on. So I'm sorry if I put you in a bad mood with all this talk and Jerrae's vid is about who ever leaked to me Tonya's status but no what about Tonya copying and pasting messages to everyone on her facebook?
11:44pm Amanda Whosoever No no no its ok makes me feel better lol! Atleast I'm not the only one getting a bit steamed over this crap.
HYPOCRISY You did "Not" put me in a bad mood sister! Lol!
11:45pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I just left a message on Jerrae's vid I said "yep a lot of that going on" Amanda don't feel bad for showing me things Tonya was doing, you had been through it and I understand absolutely why you did so, you did not take it publically like Tonya you did it out of concern not malice, I did the same thing with ppl hurt by SOTC because it HURTS
11:47pm Amanda Whosoever LOL wonder if she'll reply *probably distant answer* or she'll be overly nice... Outta be interesting
11:48pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I think Jerrae is just blinded by Tonya right now
11:48pm Amanda Whosoever I don't feel bad. That's the thing Eve...I felt like if I didn't tell you that was wrong. because it showed me what kind of vindictiveness tonya was pulling.... And you did NOT deserve that for disagreeing with her! She sent me your message before posting that status. I read what you wrote and AGREED in my Spirit with you. And she calls you a nasty name for that? Um.....
11:48pm Amanda Whosoever Tonya's started some serious division eve
11:49pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yep I know it's religion that divides
11:50pm Amanda Whosoever I never had more than one vision before the one of her.... And it was clear after 3 weeks of persistant prayer.... I should have listened. But I didn't She forgave me for assuming stuff about her.... And we became friends again... She didn't trust me no more And jumped the gun 3 weeks after that... And I didn't want to be friends with her anymore cause it felt like a game... I didn't need a friendship full of distrust.
11:50pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I was trying to bring furturist and preterist together so we can discuss things with our differences but with love it seems that it's the religious that divide because they do not want anything contrary to their doctrines
your visions were right just as my dreams when I was dealing with SOTC we need to learn to trust our hearts more cause Jesus is the one that changed our hearts
11:53pm Amanda Whosoever The words I heard... Man Eve seriously... It rumbled my spirit and it was the second I opened my eyes from the vision "YOUR ENEMIES ARE CLOSER THAN YOUR FRIENDS" And it was stern but not mean.... Like here is the answer to your persistant prayer request... Eve.... I frickin love Tonya.... But she has changed big time. I don't like it. She has lots of friends and she's become weird with me. Me no likey.
11:55pm Evelyn Kate Whelan She will learn Amanda I pray, I know you love her I love SOTC as well but I will never reconnect with them unless i noticed they let go of religion
11:55pm Amanda Whosoever I don't even think its right that there are so many different terms to "Sections" of Christianity. Like your belief system is preterist (more formal name should be Fulfilled)
And people hear it and literally hear "predorist" like a predator....
11:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Too be honest Amanda I think she has too many religious influences including her mom and I also think she can not be herself around those religious ppl she will learn this one day WOW listen to the end of her vid she's really putting it out there and Luke's just helping her HMMM talk about gossip start this at 2:00:46
11:59pm Amanda Whosoever We must love them... Hate is sin....hate is poison....unforgiveness puts you in bondage. And wow...Father has shown me the understanding I wish I could reach so many through Him quicker. But as He also showed me growth is a process that He created all around we see gradual growth with the necessity for compassion and care... Like a seedling we burst forth, as a sapling we hang on for dear life lol (this is the silly version intended to make you laugh) as a juvinile plant we hope to the Lord no one steps on us or bends us...and as an adult plant we bare fruit... Firm in our roots, we can produce abundance in good fruit and have a few rotten ones....but what Happens to a rotten fruit? It decays and falls off that tree, or they get consumed. (Think about the refining process with that one) The depths of our Creator are so so deep...
11:59pm Evelyn Kate Whelan hurry before she edits it Alex straight up said Tonya told him to block me
11:59pm Amanda Whosoever Is this gonna piss me right off? Lol I'm trying to! Lol gotta log into my laptop! Rotfl! Its over
12:02am Evelyn Kate Whelan what?
12:02am Amanda Whosoever I can't watch it
12:03am Evelyn Kate Whelan wtf
12:04am Amanda Whosoever .....
It won't let me
12:04am Evelyn Kate Whelan that's weird maybe she's busy editing it right now LOL
12:05am Amanda Whosoever What did she say?
12:08am Evelyn Kate Whelan Alex said without mentioning names but seriously how many girl preterist does everyone know Tonya knows? He said "I blocked her again after you told me to block her, it was an interesting comment" Tonya said "well we aren't talking about that here" LOL Alex is so innocent at heart that he exposes her as a gossip that is why he is always saying stuff about ppl on her hangouts trying to get her to converse with him about it....I noticed that
12:09am Evelyn Kate Whelan they were talking about the preterist man I wish you could see it
12:10am Amanda Whosoever Like he's trying to out her?
12:11am Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't think Alex even realizes he's exposing her he just wants to gossip why? because that is how he communicates with Tonya I'm almost certain
12:11am Amanda Whosoever wow man... ok so imagine this them talkin shit about that right but right now supposedly im "ignoring her when she needs me most" in "code" talk... so what crap is she talking "you are still on my list and tim" lol i can only imagine
12:13am Amanda Whosoever
12:14am Evelyn Kate Whelan this is Alex's exact words I don't want to kill the mood or anything but one of the guys is a preterist WOW and it's NOT my beliefs? yeah freakin right
12:14am Amanda Whosoever ...........
12:14am Evelyn Kate Whelan hold on Amanda haven't read your message I want to get their convo word for word
12:18am Amanda Whosoever im listening right now on my phone...
12:18am Evelyn Kate Whelan DAMN I JUST TYPED MOST OF IT OUT LOL
12:18am Amanda Whosoever wow how unappropriate to speak of that with all guys ........ her sperm egg game
like really ............ WHAT THE FUCK LUKE? REALLY ....... wtf is that? WOW come on now....
12:20am Evelyn Kate Whelan But the thing is she felt uncomfortable and she also felt uncomfortable when her mom cussed I feel like that is religion holding her back from being herself I mean maybe she shouldn't have said it in front of the guys but to feel bad about just trying to be yourself is just faking who you are
12:20am Amanda Whosoever you should record that seriously!
12:20am Evelyn Kate Whelan for what?
12:20am Evelyn Kate Whelan I let shit go
12:20am Amanda Whosoever idk! LOL sorry lol
12:21am Evelyn Kate Whelan no it's okay I actually had the thought run in my mind LOL
12:21am Amanda Whosoever i wish we would have popped in EXCUSE ME lol
12:21am Evelyn Kate Whelan what's the point?
12:21am
Amanda Whosoever she's gonna give him shit
12:21am Evelyn Kate Whelan she would just cause more drama
12:21am Amanda Whosoever LOL that is what she was going off air todo to do* HAHAHAHA poor alex
12:22am Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't need to expose her she's gonna do it herself
12:22am Amanda Whosoever like really ON THE RECORD
12:22am Evelyn Kate Whelan she's slippin
lol
12:22am Amanda Whosoever i watched her face drop
12:22am Evelyn Kate Whelan lol okay gotta read your message from earlier
12:22am Amanda Whosoever like you did NOT just say taht that* to alex
12:23am Evelyn Kate Whelan LOL lol she's so busted she HAS to edit that I hope she doesn't tho but what would it do? religious ppl are still gonna buy her garbage
12:25am
Amanda Whosoever lol i cannot believe they swallow that whole without twisting their head going "say what?!" "told me to block her" like really? and this content she speaks of HORRIBLE sperm and egg game with 4 guys that seems awful it is NOT good wow
12:28am Evelyn Kate Whelan the sperm egg thing I could understand if other women were there she prob got use to her mom and me being there it's no biggie to me but the whole gossip issue is straight up showing in that
12:28am Amanda Whosoever im ... (speechless) but add the two its bad...
yeah lol
12:28am Amanda Whosoever lol wow she's so gonna give alex shit just sayin LMAO and busted was her nameo
12:29am Evelyn Kate Whelan yep notice how he said I hate to dampin the mood but he's a preterist YET she has nothing against preterism? yeah flippin right. that's why she blocked Jerry too did you know that? she has bugs whispering in her ear about preterism
12:30am Amanda Whosoever dampen the mood? yes i know she blocked jerry i saw that after he commented she admits it after she does it
12:31am
Evelyn Kate Whelan why block Jerry too?
12:31am Amanda Whosoever and a whole bunch of people are being affected cause she wanted to gossip about you lol without him seeing
12:32am Evelyn Kate Whelan prob but I still think it has to do with preterism I could be wrong but things just don't add up she prob dumped you Amanda on your beliefs of love she told me she's sick of hearing about love (she didn't mention your name)
12:33am Amanda Whosoever well that's how i had been from the get go
12:34am Evelyn Kate Whelan I bet you it was about the google hangout vid you did
12:34am
Amanda Whosoever so what she is doing is vindictive yep she was pissed and tried saying it wasnt me rotflmao unfriended me before i could even explain what it was about im stunned
12:36am Evelyn Kate Whelan hmmm someone feels guilty about something
12:36am Amanda Whosoever why do you say that?
12:36am Evelyn Kate Whelan not you silly if she thought it was about her and it involved love sorry I'm amped up now lol it's pure bullshit
12:38am
Amanda Whosoever she is putting up a front i do not like the change in her i noticed it at a specific time idk how to describe it either
12:42am Evelyn Kate Whelan Was their any new friends at that time? Amanda I have not told anyone that you showed me those comments by Tonya but Tim knows Tonya deleted you not to long ago and I've been discussing this with you I have a feeling he prob knows He hasn't asked tho I love Tim even if he knows i know he won't say anything I don't know for sure that he knows, but he asked about you and Tonya a few weeks ago and I just posted this to him and thought oh man I bet he will figure it out
12:49am Evelyn Kate Whelan well Tim they seen what she did they all seen that she posted my pm's to her for everyone to see so why are they being okay with her actions but not okay with someone who's been hurt by Tonya before coming to me and in PRIVATE and showing me and UMMMM ppl seem to know that to HOW?
Did you tell him that Tonya deleted you?
12:53am Evelyn Kate Whelan He asked a few weeks okay if you guys were okay I was talking to Tonya at the time and so I told her he asked and what to tell him she said how did he know so I asked him how do you know he said Tonya deleted her a couple weeks ago and told Tonya and she said yeah tell him we are okay now
1:12am Amanda Whosoever No I did not...not that I recall ..... She told Tim too? WTF........
1:13am Evelyn Kate Whelan well I don't think so cause she said who told you and he said I seen she deleted her he didn't reply anything like Tonya did what is she talking about
1:14am Evelyn Kate Whelan so I think he found out some other way maybe he seen you guys weren't mutual friends any more or something
1:14am Amanda Whosoever ..... This girl is a straight up shit disturber and a liar Maybe cause he saw statuses he shouldn't have? Or that were intentionally put out there And doesn't want to say anything
1:15am Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't know I could ask but then he would DEFF know
1:16am Amanda Whosoever ...... I'm pissed
1:16am Evelyn Kate Whelan sorry I should just drop it but it bothers me too
1:23am Evelyn Kate Whelan Tim is hearing an earful tonight poor Tim LOL, I love him dearly he's a very good friend and so when I need to vent guess who gets it?
lol
1:54am Amanda Whosoever Lol at least he's informed and not wondering what is going on. Lol I gotta go to bed before I paSs out on ya Talk tomorrow Eve sleep sweet I almost did pass out
1:55am Evelyn Kate Whelan lol I'm getting really tired too good night August 15
4:17pm Amanda Whosoever Ok so I emailed Jerrae... And I kept it vague. She kept names out of it, but let me know she is catching on to what I'm saying and has decided to observe as well. Jerrae knew about what I went through the last time... And the division that is being caused currently. So pray all is revealed in time Just stay on our toes and alert and in prayer for tonya that she may detach from religion
4:18pm
Evelyn Kate Whelan Man I'm so worried bout my electric bill, it's due to get shut off the 20th I start online classes the 21st, I've tried churches, LIHEAP program, and even neighborhood places no help my mom just spent 900 on her car not sure what to do keep me in your prayers I will def pray for her
4:19pm Amanda Whosoever I will definitely keep you in my prayers sis if anyone knows about sudden jumps in utility bills its me
4:19pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm so pissed about it I called my electric company complaining it's the highest it's ever been they tried acting as if it's normal
4:20pm Amanda Whosoever What's it normally?
4:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan around 160 it was 250 this time and the coming up bill is around the same it's a brown bill meaning it's over due so I already have my view of the next it's bullshit this place is getting to expensive to live in
One more year and I'm looking for another place
4:21pm Amanda Whosoever Holy crap That's JUST electric?
4:22pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I know, I'm also on section 8 in a really nice home well last year it only cost me 57$ for rent this year it's 137 how crazy is that yes just the electric everything is doubling I can't afford it the electric company told me that my electric bill will go down in the fall and winter months they said July and Aug were my highest months which is weird you would think it would be winter i'm wondering if I need an air conditioner check
4:24pm Amanda Whosoever Frig sakes man....that's crazy Our electric is about 90.00 a month, and every other month water comes in at about 160.00 so the bill is together every 2 months... Plus gas/heat is about 150 a month. Bills are sickening
4:25pm
Evelyn Kate Whelan I know I hate the bills here I'm on assistance and it's still too much for me
4:27pm Amanda Whosoever We're on Disability... If we weren't we'd be so screwed welfare is bullsh*t never giving you enough to live on.
4:29pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yep they also try to keep you in pov by taken just about everything if not everything if you get a job
4:31pm Amanda Whosoever Even when my husband worked 3 jobs it was ridiculous... No one can ever get ahead
4:35pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I know it's ridiculous I'm surviving off Zac my autistic son's SSI check and student finacial aid/loans I don't want to complain too much cause to be honest without section 8 and food stamps I don't know where I would be BUT geez they should be trying to help ppl get off the system not keep them down in it
5:51pm
Evelyn Kate Whelan Jerrae responded to my comment You seeing it to;)....its unfortunate...but a part of social networking....rather on the internet or in the work place...you name it....some never grow out of high school.....much love to you sis did she respond to your email?
5:53pm Amanda Whosoever Yes she did a pretty chunky email too.
5:54pm Evelyn Kate Whelan was it positive?
5:56pm Amanda Whosoever Yes she was actually letting me know she suspected what I spoke of, and she said she's on guard. She knows what I'm talkin about even with me being vague.
5:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan that's good maybe she was actually directing that vid at Tonya lol Tonya just didn't get it
That's what I was thinkin too.... Especially with the copy pasting thing
6:00pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah
6:00pm Amanda Whosoever She even brought up the bible thing in her email one second ill copy paste what she said and u tell me if she's leading me to know she knows its tonya
6:01pm Evelyn Kate Whelan ok from what I've seen so far I like Jerrae I think she has a good heart
6:03pm Amanda Whosoever This is part of it : (she was talkin about a brother both her and I speak to who's really a deep spiritual person) he is not bashing the bible.... he is just bashing the bible people who bash others over the head with it...and he reminded me of something....... my ancestors....the Native Americans.....believed and knew in the Creator......why would they have doomed to death by not having a bible....when they lived in harmony with Gods creation.....so when folks say we must believe in the words of the bible to be saved ....then what does that mean for many who have died without ever even seeing a bible....and I
always wondered that as well......and that I can get.......I believe we are fortunate to have the word.... especially in this time we live in...we need it
6:04pm Evelyn Kate Whelan that's great!! I'm glad she's thinking of her ancestors native americans are a good example of those who are saved without religion
6:05pm Amanda Whosoever If you notice her answer to tonya was very short...
6:05pm Evelyn Kate Whelan you mean in her comments?
6:05pm Amanda Whosoever In her video comments (is what I meant) Yep lol Everyone else's is pretty chunky... Yours was a one sentence response and she gave you a decent response. Tonya got "none of that going on here...love ya" She said someone went back to Jeanette after she made that video and said "you didn't tell her what I said did you?"
I wonder if tonya has been caught talkin shite?
6:09pm Evelyn Kate Whelan wow
6:09pm Amanda Whosoever Ugh will she never learn?
6:09pm Evelyn Kate Whelan when she burns all bridges she will It wasn't smart of her to go to Jeanette if it was her Jeanette and Jerrae are close what did she think she could get in between that
6:10pm Amanda Whosoever People will eventually throw her to the vultures and expose her as a gossiper and not to be trusted. That's what I thought too! Even I know better than that Doesn't take a genius to figure out how close they are....
the others day you said you noticed when she started to change I have a question did you notice any new friends at that time and/or did she start zantax at that time? I don't trust medications and the mood altering ones is the ones I suspect the most
6:13pm Amanda Whosoever Idk if she started meds she hasn't told me that and as for new friends there hasn't been really any new friends except her involving her mom in every single thing she does....
6:13pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well that's prob it her mom is funny but I can see her mom as being a gossip as well hope i'm not falsely accusing
6:14pm Amanda Whosoever No her mom is definitely a gossip Ever since she had ben and had her mom stay with her that's when our friendship went down the shitter
6:15pm Evelyn Kate Whelan You know that hangout we did with Michael the universalist? I seen that Jerrae shared one of his links so I wrote her and told her that I agreed with a lot of what he said but that many misunderstand him due to religious fear, she agreed and said she will never take part in a close-minded hangout again
6:15pm Amanda Whosoever What's funny tho is tonya told me all the bullshit her mom said to her and how much she stressed her out etc. Praise God people are seeing the truth!
6:16pm Evelyn Kate Whelan that is why I like Jerrae much of what she says I'm in agreement with as far as love I mean I'm not saying because I disagree with ppl I don't like them not at all but it's about the heart and she seems to have a good and open heart
6:17pm Amanda Whosoever I know what you mean sis
6:18pm Amanda Whosoever See I asked tonya for advice with my dad, because we have a very messed up relationship. She told me to "fuck him" not literally but basically to be done with him. Instead of that I made peace. We're not close but we're not fighting anymore. Father laid it on my heart "make peace" and everyone who's doing the complete opposite is making me raise an eyebrow.
6:20pm
Amanda Whosoever To me family is very important but mine is very disfunctional. I guess that's what makes me part of the mentally unstable nutjob label. I'm tellin ya Eve she wasn't just talkin about you in that status. I sure aint stupid.
6:23pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Well, you know I sometimes get that way. Tonya was telling me she was so tired of the drama on youtube and ppl always talking about love yada yada I didn't say "fuck em" but I did tell her that she has got to stop worrying about everyone else and concentrate on herself. Don't get me wrong I don't believe in being selfish but at the same time I believe if you don't love yourself you can't love others.
6:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I have to exclude myself from some ppl for the benefit of myself I hope that don't sound bad, I mean I would never mistreat them or ignore them but as far as drawing them close that's not gonna happen, Tonya is one of those ppl now
6:27pm Amanda Whosoever I did a video on that Eve! About Loving yourself before you can love others.
that's good, religion tells you to hate yourself if you don't then it's ego then your making yourself a god blah blah blah I HATE RELIGION
6:28pm Amanda Whosoever And what Is God? He's Love.... She's sick of love? I think that's when she let a religious angry spirit invade her mind... Ouch man... Ouch... And that's what I mean right now I feel like saying "I love you tonya but we can't be friends anymore there is zero trust" She can't be regular friends "like fb friends" she wants to be clingy stalker friends....
6:30pm Amanda Whosoever Honestly Love is so powerful and people say "love allows sin" Bullshit! Idk about you Eve but for real if our kids do something that will harm them well is it loving for us to sit back & let it happen. True love defend protects & disciplines.... But not what religion teaches which is God beats the snot outta His kids....
6:31pm Evelyn Kate Whelan when she told me she was sick of all the love talk I assumed she was talking about ppl encouraging her not to speak her mind to be lovey dovey when she has a differing open and in that case I would agree with her we should all speak our mind, BUT now that I've been through what I have with her I do
think it's more of an angry spirit
6:34pm Amanda Whosoever I agree that's what change I have seen...
6:40pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I think my mom and sister think I'm going crazy
8:00pm Amanda Whosoever Sorry I disappeared my dad was on the phone
8:06pm Evelyn Kate Whelan no prob
8:10pm Amanda Whosoever Most of my family think I have lost my mind lmao The only one who doesn't is my dad
8:13pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well I think my mom and sister are more like getting worried about me their
christians that's the reason for one of my post that my mom liked so I think she got the point this was my post>>Letting go of religion doesn't mean I've lost the faith it means my faith in Christ is strong enough to trust His Spirit in my spiritual journey of this life.
8:18pm Amanda Whosoever That's AWESOME post! lol Didn't I like it? Thought I did? Lol Oh wait u just put it. I was gabbin on the phone
8:41pm Evelyn Kate Whelan gonna do some yoga bbl
8:42pm Amanda Whosoever Enjoy yer yoga woman lol
10:57pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Tonya is now saying someone don't have to believe the Bible is the word of God to be saved from what Tim said she just made a vid stating that is one of her 5 deal breakers he said it's in a new vid I wonder if Jerrae talked to her
11:03pm Evelyn Kate Whelan hmm she must be covering her tracks
11:03pm Evelyn Kate Whelan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqGndHrrM8I
To: Live4truth2012 www.youtube.com I would like to talk to you more about this. if you have skype, please add me, i am galaxydreams10 on there. thanks for listening :D
11:07pm Evelyn Kate Whelan and she said "just so everybody knows" after saying it lol yep she's covering her ass she needs to just be honest with herself
11:12pm Amanda Whosoever That's my friend Rebeccah!!!!!! And she is pissed right now!!!!!
11:12pm Evelyn Kate Whelan OMG what's going on?
she trying to connect with your friends?
11:12pm Amanda Whosoever She is pissed!!!!!!!!!! And I mean pissed Rebeccah is Live4Truth2012!
11:13pm Evelyn Kate Whelan man I really want to tell Tim that it's you so he sees the whole scope but I won't
11:13pm Amanda Whosoever She just msg'd me and asked me why is she doing this publicly to her? She could have asked her this stuff privately. She had a bad feeling about tonya right from the get go Tell him!
11:14pm Evelyn Kate Whelan cause she's trying to cover her ass is why ok thanks
I really don't give a shat anymore I'm deleting tonya after watching this stupid video she made without going in private to Rebeccah! That's biblical! Private first THEN public!
11:17pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Here's the thing I understand inconsistancy when growing but she just made a vid DAYS ago after dropping me about one of her baragain breakers being those who deny scripture is the word of God then she says diff in this vid?
11:18pm Amanda Whosoever Someone should call her out on her bullshit
11:18pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol not me
11:19pm Amanda Whosoever I'm gonna watch this (she did this wrong biblically speaking Eve) She is to take it privately first....then publicly! she did this because I'm responding to Rebeccah and now she's being spiteful.... I know why she's doing this!
11:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well she is also covering her ass Amanda she said I don't believe you have to
believe the bible is the word of God to be saved....just so everyone knows she's trying to get to you by addressing your friends this is wrong about her wrong for her to do she's hurting a lot of ppl 3 for a fact I know of you me and Tim
11:26pm Evelyn Kate Whelan does this comment seem contradicting? Is the bible the Word of God or Christ>>Faith comes by hearing and hearing by The Word of God. (Romans 10:17) In the beginning was The Word. The Word was with God and The Word WAS GOD. (John 1:1) If one does not believe The Word of God is The Word of God, then I would argue that they do not have saving faith. If one does not believe what God says, how can they believe the testimony of Jesus - who IS The Word.
11:27pm Amanda Whosoever Just watching.... She's not being cute she's being a cocky bitch.... She's out to hurt my friend Oh my GOD eve!!!! That vision is coming True!!!!!
11:27pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Trying to "catch" her in something?
that vision already is true it's just manifesting more She tries catching ppl in stuff she can pin against them that is what I felt like when talking to her in pm last
11:33pm Amanda Whosoever ........ i am........ PIST
11:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I believe Christ IS the Word I believe scripture is INSPIRED by God to be a witness OF the Word/Jesus that is why I can't say someone isn't saved because they don't believe the scripture is the word of God
11:33pm Amanda Whosoever I feel like its my fault my friend is being attacked.
11:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan why?
i feel like asking her WHAT she is doing
11:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it's not your fault
11:34pm Amanda Whosoever and why she didnt take that privately
11:34pm Evelyn Kate Whelan who Tonya?
11:34pm Amanda Whosoever that's messed up
11:34pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well this is what she wants to get you to talk to her
im boiling with righteous indignation like this is crazy to see her do this and KNOW because Father showed the other end of the computer the end we don't see my stomach is sick from it it was not good eve
11:35pm Evelyn Kate Whelan don't let her stress you out Amanda it's okay to talk about it and not agree with what she is doing but when you let it get to you your doing YOURSELF wrong
11:36pm Amanda Whosoever i just feel like wow God our Father showed me something its blowing my mind lol i don't have visions n stuff lol
11:37pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I understand what's sad is if it weren't for the dreams I myself had when dealing with SOTC I wouldn't believe you God put us in one anothers paths SEE something good came out of us befriending Tonya LOL
11:38pm Amanda Whosoever i feel odd about removing her do you know what will happen she will trash talk me, then make videos about me, bash all of my friends and then turn around and email me text me phone me... its crazy behavior she'll claim she's WORRIED about me like i am mentally sick or something i sense that
11:44pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Amanda, you might have to cut all ties with her if she is going to keep you down
11:52pm Evelyn Kate Whelan not telling you what to do you are your own person but I know I became less stressed when I had no contact with SOTC
11:55pm Amanda Whosoever man she's being such a BITCH in this video holy crap man
12:07am Amanda Whosoever eve
12:07am Evelyn Kate Whelan sorry Jer has his paltalk room open was in there talking to a crossdressing OMG I and Him are going to burn
12:08am Amanda Whosoever at the end she says "everyone be RESPECTFUL" (check out my channel description) this is some sickness i dont know
12:14am Evelyn Kate Whelan Amanda she is crawling under your skin exactly what she wants to do
12:17am Amanda Whosoever Jerrae called Rebeccah she's pissed this is not good for her not good at all she's crawling under a rock
good she needs too til she realizes what she's doing she has no concept of true freedom
12:19am Amanda Whosoever ouch man Jerrae is going to sting like a yellow jacket hornet She don't put up with this bullshit
12:21am Evelyn Kate Whelan well Jerrae is what we need I was actually going to say that earlier that a strong older woman of the faith needs to confront her she'll have no respect for someone like us
12:22am Amanda Whosoever this is going to be interesting... im waiting for it to pop lol
12:22am Evelyn Kate Whelan yes you have to keep me updated I really want to know what's up
12:22am Amanda Whosoever lol i will man....i told jeanette today and jeanette is close with jerrae and rebeccah so now jeanette will know I wasnt kidding i warned her to be weary...and sure enough
12:25am Evelyn Kate Whelan man look at her comment sister I am in zero way judging you and I am not sure why you think I am? I said that the new age type words got my attention. Anyway, I just wanted to start a conversation with you about this because its something I would really like to talk to you more about her comment is not even loving it's got an attitude in it
12:26am Amanda Whosoever this is ridiculous
12:26am Evelyn Kate Whelan it is
12:26am Amanda Whosoever oh man Jerrae is gonna rip her a new butthole lmao!
12:26am Evelyn Kate Whelan well I hope they acknowledge not only what she is doing at this moment but what she's done this past week to me and Tim and what she's done to you
12:26am Amanda Whosoever i can feel it she is out to hurt alot of people she is NOT who she claims to be
12:27am Evelyn Kate Whelan she don't see that we are more united then she thinks, I barely know Jerrae and the others but would NEVER treat them like shit LOVE conquers many things
12:28am Amanda Whosoever i told rebeccah i sense a thick evil and i cant describe it her eyes are so dark...
We must PRAY for her all of us in Love because these words are painful to me and all who listen to it who are connected to love to Father's spirit this really hurts to listen to i cant even imagine how rebeccah feels
12:33am Evelyn Kate Whelan I understand, you know amanda it may really have something to do with that medication and I'm sure her mother situation didn't help postpardem is a possibility as well pray is def needed OR it could just be religion
12:34am Amanda Whosoever thats what i thought too post partum depression added with all that stuff
12:34am Evelyn Kate Whelan she may be at the point where God is really pushing her to come out and she is fearful or holding back
read jerrae's comments
12:37am Evelyn Kate Whelan fear will push ppl back into religion it will keep them bound
12:37am Amanda Whosoever and tonya's last comment to live4truth2012 she says I WANT to get to know more...
12:40am Evelyn Kate Whelan can I comment on her channel? or can they block from commenting?
12:44am Amanda Whosoever who's channel
12:44am Evelyn Kate Whelan I can't I just tried
who's tonya's
12:46am Evelyn Kate Whelan yes
12:47am Evelyn Kate Whelan I just messaged Jerrae on here this is what I said>>>Can't reply to your comment on Tonya's vid cause i'm blocked but I still want you to see it Your right Jerrae to claim the bible is the Word of God is taking that title from Jesus Christ Himself, Jesus is the Word the scripture was inspired to testify of the Word/Jesus. Those who never heard it pass away with no chance of eternal life? I don't think I PERSONALLY believe Jesus reveals His Spirit to those ppl through LOVE, now others can condemn me or not for that I still hold to it.
12:48am Amanda Whosoever WOW and tonya already had you blocked?
12:51am Evelyn Kate Whelan I pretty sure she blocked me the other day when she first deleted me on here
12:53am
Amanda Whosoever absolutely immature
12:53am Evelyn Kate Whelan i'm too heretical for her
12:57am Evelyn Kate Whelan look how contradicting her comment is....is Sally a sister or not?>>I am not one to question peoples salvation. If people claim to believe Jesus, then I have to and do take them at their word, like 99% of the time. I took Sally on her's and maybe she is a sister, but the fact that she removed from her youtube page that Jesus is the Christ AFTER i made that video... confirms for me that she is indeed NOT our sister in Christ. we are told to test the spirits and i did that. I know Rebecca is our sister. Praise God You are lucky to know her so well!
12:58am Evelyn Kate Whelan that comment is so full of contradiction it's unreal does she or not question ppl's salvation? is Sally a sis or not? why is Sally not a sis because she removed you? does that mean to ME tonya isn't a sis for removing me? hypocracy I freakin hate it
1:10am
Evelyn Kate Whelan sorry I should stop concerning myself with it all
1:12am Amanda Whosoever I'm still trying to process her intent for this
1:13am Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm sure it's not a good one
1:13am Amanda Whosoever Why was sally brought up?
1:13am Evelyn Kate Whelan to try and convince Jerrae that it's possible Live4truth20 isn't a sister like she claims to be that would be my guess or maybe she is feeling guilty idk There are many possibilities I don't see any of them with good intentions tho If she wanted to actually be open minded she should have started by apologizing to both me and you and Tim so I don't think it's a guilt thing
she's been playing like she is open then she shuts ppl down reminds me of the pharisees that were always questioning Jesus about the law trying to trap Him in their religious dogma
1:19am Amanda Whosoever She's still on my friends list she doesn't think she has done anything wrong nor has she posted anything. The minute I remove her it will be all hell around here...her emailin me, texting, calling fbing... And then she'll go in for some way to expose... I feel it
1:20am Evelyn Kate Whelan you done gave her your heart/thoughts I'm sure she will try and use them Amanda it seems to be what she's doing you tell her anything that differs from her belief and do something that angers her she will use it against you sad but seems to be the case soon you will be deemed heretical as well sorry that's a RELIGIOUS spirit
1:22am Amanda Whosoever She won't accept them. Hear her double talk saying "word of God word of God" and then idk Eve it was awful... She's trying to convince Jerrae she has good intent... But she does not. And Jerrae can read people very well & I warned Jerrae, Jeanette & Rebeccah
today... So then she does this uncalled for? And then does it publicly....that's not right
1:23am Amanda Whosoever She won't accept "my beliefs" she'll think I'm being "influenced" And she doesn't get I've been led to this. That's why she's sayin what she is in this video to rebeccah, did you feel this way before you started listening to oneofonez...... She doesn't get being truly spirit led
1:24am Evelyn Kate Whelan I know she don't have to adopt other's beliefs to accept them in love
1:26am Amanda Whosoever The fake laughter bugs me...her face changes so much. And she has made me videos personally & sent them to me. I know her attitude... When she's pissed off and being strange
1:27am Evelyn Kate Whelan what she being like in the vid? mischievious ?
I'm thinking she is looking for something against this chick so she can start asking Jerrae and Jeanette if they "really think it's right" then turn them against Live4truth20 the thing is if that was her plan I think she knows better now that Jarrae isn't gonna fall for it so hmmmm what can she do now? schemming sad August 16
10:39am Amanda Whosoever Jerrae chewed her a new asshole and lemme tell you I got an email from Jerrae she's not impressed. And apparently she did copy paste stuff to Jeanette about Jerrae...
10:41am Evelyn Kate Whelan Oh wow
10:42am Amanda Whosoever I'll show u what she just sent me lol
10:43am Amanda Whosoever "I have her number... And she better be careful or someone is going to expose her... I any of us can sound new age... Doesn't mean we are.. What do we have to fit her script or else we are not true believers grrrrrrr woof woof..
You see she is no different than Rockland she is wolfing around to do harm not help.. She is very insecure to do this... And she claims to be a mature christian grrrrrrr I don't care how long you have been saved you can still screw up... And... I know it's like I'm gossiping here but I am pissed.. This is bullshit shit 101"
10:45am Evelyn Kate Whelan wow someone is angry even tho it sux what's going on I'm glad others are seeing it
10:56am Amanda Whosoever They need to see it
11:12am Evelyn Kate Whelan I agree
11:16am Amanda Whosoever All her religious friends are coming now to like the video & add their input... She ACTS like she is curious...no she isn't... Anyone with discernment can see she is trying to suck Rebeccah in...
She's trying to "expose" Rebeccah without exposing her bluntly or obviously
11:37am Amanda Whosoever Exactly....
12:17pm Amanda Whosoever Oooo tonya messaged me I haven't opened it all I can see is the first portion. "A WEEK is about as patient as I can be, especially when I have no fucking clue what the problem is..." That's all I can see
12:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan If she doesn't see that you've seen them why is she making threats wouldn't she just assume you have yet to see them? it's threats to get you to answer
12:24pm Amanda Whosoever Yep and she wants me to block her remove her or view the message so she can see the "seen @ such and such a time" lol She's not well mentally eve... I shouldn't laugh but this behavior is not normal.
She said she's sick of mentally unstable nutjobs well...she needs a mirror. Jerrae removed the video supporting tonya
12:38pm Amanda Whosoever just sayin
1:16pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I know Jerrae told me, I wrote her last night that comment she replied back this morning and then I wrote her and told her why I disagreed with Tonya that I wanted her to here my side AND that I was hurt by Tonya when she posted my private messages
1:26pm Amanda Whosoever *well that's what I told Jerrae too, I told her you're a nice person and just for expressing a difference in opinion (yet honest one) and not agreeing with tonya fully, look at how she treated you* We must see repeated behavior. I kid u not Eve tonya can't see jack on my fb. She can see my public cover pics & mutual friends. But her mutual friends can't even see my feed except Jerrae and Jeanette. Lol. I aint playin.... Donna Rose has changed BIG time she used to be on level playing field. Now I see a one sided point of view.
1:27pm
Amanda Whosoever I up talked you big time to Jerrae and said Tonya was VERY unfair to you and quite frankly immature
1:33pm Amanda Whosoever It wasn't that I brought you in for any specific reason but she brought up copy and pasting and that's when I said look what she did to Eve, and now I wonder because I agree with Eve will tonya see me as a heretic and whatever? That's the way the convo went Its repeated behavior and others need to see its not unusual for her to do this....if she is willing to do it twice in a week...well...we all know what Alex said "you told me to block her" hmmmm
1:44pm Amanda Whosoever Hope your not mad I brought you up. I just know in my spirit tonya ran u into the ground and who knows how many people to.
1:51pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't mind I'm actually thankful you stood up for me, I have to run some errands bbl
1:55pm Amanda Whosoever Ok phew I was like I hope you didn't think I was gossiping. Cause I'm trying to show Jerrae that its nothing new at this point.
Have a good day Eve
1:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan not at all it took me a long time to respond cause I was cleaning a lil bit and getting ready, I don't think it's gossip to share concern or even hurt, it's gossip when it's slander/lies, or misrepresentations to be an ass ok bbl
1:57pm Amanda Whosoever Agreed lol. Just like Jerrae said in her video. Its not gossip when a friend is sharing a genuine concern for something that might do harm. Kk
4:09pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Tonya wants to talk to me know made me a private vid
4:13pm Amanda Whosoever Um.... Be VERY careful....
4:13pm
Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm not sure I even want to respons respond
4:13pm Amanda Whosoever VERY ....she's suffering from narcassism *spell check* You do not HAVE to respond and you know it Can u send me the link? Lol I'll help you discern this If not that's ok
4:16pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Either someone confronted her or she caught on to everyone else catching on that is the ONLY reason she is trying to speak to me she's still blaming me and trying to make me feel bad OOP SHE JUST LIED she unfriended me when I wrote her about about the video and me disagreeing NOT after I told anyone it was cause of preterism she must lie so much she fools herself
4:18pm Amanda Whosoever LMAO! She does lie a lot Eve...
4:19pm
Evelyn Kate Whelan If I give it to you it will show up on the views tho won't it? I think she might try to use it against me I might make a response vid telling her I don't buy into her bullshit
4:19pm Amanda Whosoever She's upset because no one in the clique she was trying to form is going along with it anymore & see what she's up to. Look up Narcassism... I tell ya the traits are brutally similar You can always say you refreshed the page or rewatched it. She distributed my video to others and tried saying she didn't.
4:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Oh she mentioned you lol
4:21pm Amanda Whosoever Even when she views it it counts as a view. The video she gave me privately had 27 views on it...
4:21pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she's the one that ruined the trust not me
yet she is putting it on me
4:21pm Amanda Whosoever I view the vid 4 times. So who watched it?
4:22pm Evelyn Kate Whelan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebDBRwsg0LQ
To Eve only www.youtube.com
4:22pm Amanda Whosoever Classic manipulation & blame game. She's not making me videos....so she's done with me & thinking you're weak enough to be sucked back in. She tried to switch shit around on me like that too.
4:22pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she does look like she's been crying, why cause she's been caught? I don't put up with stupid drama like this, I feel like making a response vid and calling her out on everything she said in this vid
4:28pm
Amanda Whosoever I have to stop....if she doesn't have many friends why did she HIDE her friends, I see new ppl on her fb every day! She's trying to back track & suck u in.... She'll get u back on fb and then grill you. Always blamin her PMS too lmao!!!! She has so not been crying... She doesn't feel bad. She is worried about her "image" Ooooooo....
4:31pm Evelyn Kate Whelan if she was crying I assume it's cause she's busted anyway not for anything good
4:31pm Amanda Whosoever She is sneaky man. Why wouldn't she make me a video (if we are "soul sisters") Why is she trying to make peace with you. I've got 4 mins left of her vid I'm on my phone so I'm jumpin back n forth Oh wow... Just wow She did the same fuckin thing to me Eve... She dumps it all on you & wow at what she said about Tim.
4:38pm
Evelyn Kate Whelan well I guess she doesn't realize that I went through 9 1/2 yrs in an abusive relationship I know how the guilt trip shit works I know exactly what she is doing and see right through it, she LIES in this vid more then once
4:38pm Amanda Whosoever See how she's willing to dump me and move onto the next person that is willing to give her attention. What it is is the people she dumped you for, aren't talkin to her, she now needs someone to gossip to, and she will grill you and make you feel like you owe her....its all headgames.
4:39pm Amanda Whosoever She found out by WHOM it was Tim? She didn't find out shit. Cause it was me not Tim. That's another lie I heard lol Man my face is all hot. If she hasn't removed me I really want to remove her at the moment.
4:40pm Evelyn Kate Whelan and she knows it I'm wondering if she made this so I'd respond so not sure I want to but man I have such a desire to do a response vid and call her out on her bullshit
Sorry she took you for gullible and I know you're not. You said u guys weren't that close, then she says you guys were, then she throws "I love you you're my girl" with the first sign of emotion. Dammit... She had to throw me in there for what? The second fight was her being a total jackass. And then I said I needed time to figure shit out, she went all crazy callin emailin n shit then she told me when I finally responded that she needed time. Then she emailed me a few days later saying "I'm willing to start over again" and I didn't respond right away and she sent me .......... As a message and kind of got all bitchy.
4:43pm Amanda Whosoever She's trying to find out who ratted her off. So if you say "it wasn't Tim" she'll say AHA its Amanda then. I know what's up. Lol
4:44pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yeah I figured that as well there's a couple things she's doing here, she thinks she's good at manipulation and perhaps she would be if I hadn't been in an abusive relationship for so long that I know how this game works
4:47pm Amanda Whosoever I've had run ins with abusive manipulators as well.
Experience with it sure does help lol that's forsure. Praise GOD you got out of that relationship!
4:50pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'll prob make a response vid but not sure if I will actually send it I really just need to feel better by feeling like I told her off lol, I'll show it to you and get your opinion
4:53pm Amanda Whosoever Kk get it outta your system I do that alot
4:54pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Oh now i"m not blocked from her page lol
5:03pm Amanda Whosoever Ofcourse not lol
5:04pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she has a post that says I'm not Bipolar I'm Multipolar That's when I cry and laugh as I beat the shit out of you....who the hell does she think she's threatening? lol that girl don't know me very well
5:05pm
Amanda Whosoever LOL!!!!!!!!!! XD She wants u to freak and me to freak so she can record the video or "steal it aka make copies" and then label us nutjobs for real.
5:06pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I strike with calmness lol which is actually more scary school girl drama
5:09pm Amanda Whosoever Wow man Rebeccah just responded to me I messaged her letting her know we have to pray for tonya because she is narcassistic... She is blown away Father just had her research Narcassism the other day for a few hours to understand those who have it. and how its affecting our brother's and sister's from being unblinded
5:10pm Amanda Whosoever Our Father is AWESOME!!!!
5:11pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Did she experience that kind of behavior prior to the meds she's on now tho
is my worry?
5:13pm Amanda Whosoever When did she start taking them?
5:17pm Evelyn Kate Whelan don't know someone called her out I know they did cause now she made a vid back peddling on her 5 reasons why she won't associate and Rebbecca
5:18pm Evelyn Kate Whelan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Khbr2IndWA
I am starting a new journey. Seeking more understanding and Truth. God's got me, don't worry. www.youtube.com Please send me a message if you are willing to talk about this kinda stuff with me. God bless you all much love.
5:19pm Amanda Whosoever Bullshit! She's being a liar and manipulating.
I'm going to make a video about a few mental disorders. I've been led to do so, I'm writing out stuff right now.
5:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm pretty sure she started taking zantax after having been Ben
5:20pm Amanda Whosoever Everything I've got to write down.... Here I'll show you.
5:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan because of "panic attacks"
5:20pm Amanda Whosoever She's been like this since April
5:21pm Evelyn Kate Whelan when was Ben born?
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Amanda Whosoever Paranoid Personality Disorder What is Paranoid Personality Disorder? Quick Summary: Paranoid personality disorder is characterized by a distrust of others and a constant suspicion that people around you have sinister motives. People with this disorder tend to have excessive trust in their own knowledge and abilities and usually avoid close relationships. They search for hidden meanings in everything and read hostile intentions into the actions of others. They are quick to challenge the loyalties of friends and loved ones and often appear cold and distant. They usually shift blame to other people and tend to carry long grudges. Symptoms of Paranoid Personality Disorder: Unwillingness to forgive perceived insults Excessive sensitivity to setbacks Distrustfulness and excessive self-reliance Projection of blame onto others Consumed by anticipation of betrayal Combative and tenacious adherence to personal rights Relentlessly suspicious Antisocial Personality Disorder What is Antisocial Personality Disorder? Quick Summary: A common misconception is that antisocial personality disorder refers to people who have poor social skills. The opposite is often the case. Instead, antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a lack of conscience. People with this disorder are prone to criminal behavior, believing that their victims are weak and deserving of being taken advantage of. Antisocials tend to lie and steal. Often, they are careless with money and take action without thinking about consequences. They are often agressive and are much more concerned with their own needs than the needs of others. Symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder:
Disregard for the feelings of others Impulsive and irresponsible decision-making Lack of remorse for harm done to others Lying, stealing, other criminal behaviors Disregard for the safety of self and others Histrionic Personality Disorder What is Histrionic Personality Disorder? Quick Summary: People with histrionic personality disorder are constant attention seekers. They need to be the center of attention all the time, often interrupting others in order to dominate the conversation. They use grandiose language to discribe everyday events and seek constant praise. They may dress provacatively or exaggerate illnesses in order to gain attention. Histrionics also tend to exaggerate friendships and relationships, believing that everyone loves them. They are often manipulative. Symptoms of Histrionic Personality Disorder: Needs to be the center of attention Dresses or acts provocatively Rapidly-shifting and shallow emotions Exaggerates friendships Overly-dramatic, occassionally theatrical speech easily influenced; highly suggestible Narcissistic Personality Disorder What is Narcissistic Personality Disorder? Quick Summary: Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by self-centeredness. Like histrionic disorder, people with this disorder seek attention and praise. They exaggerate their achievements, expecting others to recongize them as being superior. They tend to be choosy about picking friends, since they believe that not just anyone is worthy of being their friend. Narcissists tend to make good first impressions, yet have difficulty maintaining long-lasting
relationships. They are generally uninterested in the feelings of others and may take advantage of them. Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Requires excessive praise and admiration Takes advantage of others Grandiose sense of self-importance Lack of empathy Lying, to self and others Obsessed with fantasies of fame, power, or beauty
5:21pm Amanda Whosoever Was it April 2nd I think But this started when she was breastfeeding still... I think its not the meds.
5:22pm Evelyn Kate Whelan well she's been on the tube for years maybe it has something to do with hormones OR maybe her true colors are finally coming to the surface but you would think they would've a long time ago
5:25pm Amanda Whosoever Idk what's going on but the last channel she had she freaked out and closed it.... And it was similar to what's happening now.
5:25pm Evelyn Kate Whelan oh wow
5:25pm Amanda Whosoever If I disappear its because I'm writing out that stuff I sent you & listening to her video
5:26pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I'm gonna do my vid after listening to this one
5:42pm Evelyn Kate Whelan nah I'm not gonna do a vid it will only tempt me to send it to her lol
5:43pm Amanda Whosoever LOL! I'm gonna make a video before my mental disorders on how I feel about the bible. Let me blow her mind away Then maybe she will understand whyy I stopped talkin to her when she made her list of 5 things
5:44pm Evelyn Kate Whelan scripture is the inspired testimony of the Savior JESUS IS THE WORD the scripture is the witness of the Word/Jesus she didn't even notice that tho Amanda, she don't even recognize it she's just trying to fit in with the crowd she screwed over She kept saying the scripture is the word of God but it's really not LOL can you please explain to me how? but she can't cause she doesn't see how it's not it was INSPIRIED by the Holy Spirit but it was written and translated by men it is also merely (but not unimportantly) the WITNESS of the Word a book can NOT contain Jesus it is only the story from the ppl of Israel, God did not just reveal Himself to Israel yet He HAD to choose a ppl to work through to manifest the redemption plan sorry just giving my opinion lol
5:56pm Amanda Whosoever LOL AMEN sis she's all over the place. And my video is gonna lose me some subscribers.... I have my views on the bible. And there is a lot that makes me go well where's the rest???? Like from Jesus' 13 years - 30 years.... Where is the rest? And yes it is the Witness of Jesus amen I agree there
5:59pm Evelyn Kate Whelan the lost years ah yes well you know I haven't researched it to verify if it were true but I've heard that he visited the Alexandrian Library and also the orients
hmmmm....yoga
6:00pm Amanda Whosoever Lol yoga
6:00pm Evelyn Kate Whelan why does mankind only use part of our brain and if we could use all could we walk on water? lol don't get me wrong some ppl who are into those believes only see Jesus as a mere man here to show us the way instead of being the way, I disagree about the mere man and only showing us the way Him not really being it, however I don't agree with much of the rest
6:01pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I mean I do agree with much of the rest of that kind of thinking I also believe religion is what is holding us back from true spiritual fulfillment and that includes the christian religion
6:11pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Hey you didn't share Tonya's personal vid did you cause I want to click on it again and see how many views, she's prob sent it to ppl and been like do you think this is a good enough apology LOL
No I didn't why? How many views are there?
6:14pm Evelyn Kate Whelan haven't looked yet just wanted to make sure before I do I've only shared it with you ok there is only two so that's good
6:17pm Amanda Whosoever Then you're ok lol I'm trying to discern if she's being truthful in this video.... Or if she's just trying to fit in....
6:20pm Evelyn Kate Whelan In her last public vid?
6:20pm Amanda Whosoever My video if I upload it will lose me atleast 100 subs... Yes
6:21pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I do think that I've had some influence in sparking her to question some
things I mean me along with other like Rebecca and you, hope that don't sound arrogant of me but I do know with some of our talks she was wondering about things outside the "christian" box
6:21pm Amanda Whosoever Because I say people call it the inerrant word of God... And I even say that I'm no longer holding onto Pauline doctrine etc... phew I'm trying to word it right but it comes out similar every time.
6:22pm Evelyn Kate Whelan at the same time I wonder if she only seemed to be interested to also fit in and I think that is actually more likely even with her talks to me
6:23pm Amanda Whosoever I don't know how I would influence her at all... Because the only thing I've said in my videos is about being led by the spirit, and having Father's law be written on our heart... She knows I've been pulling away from scripture. She invited me to Bible Studies and I don't want to be in the middle of that stuff
6:23pm Amanda Whosoever That's what I mean....
I don't wanna be messaging her and have her turn around stuff I say etc.
6:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I think she is still stuck in religion but that she sees many others following the Spirit
6:24pm Amanda Whosoever That's gotta get her wondering why do these people seem so strong and unafraid...
6:24pm Evelyn Kate Whelan she is seeing that many are breaking out of the box yes but the thing is at least it was for me is that it's fearful at first to break that box but Jesus brought me to a place where instead of running from fear I take His hand and walk with Him through it
6:27pm Evelyn Kate Whelan alot of things were fearful to me when I first noticed some truth in fulfilled eschatology I was scared I was gonna go new agey guess what I DID!! LOL I was also wondering if I would become a universalist and now i'm questioning it LOL, even if I'm wrong I'm glad i've reached a place where i can face my fears with Christ beside me
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Evelyn Kate Whelan I can now explore instead of ignore
6:29pm Amanda Whosoever The Lord has us, our walk is WITH Him. Regardless to where we end up in our understanding Through Him. Amen!
6:35pm Amanda Whosoever I feel like commenting on her video "are you stepping out of the box?" LOL nooo I won't that's mean
6:35pm Evelyn Kate Whelan not only that but you will open up the lines of communication lol if that is something your trying to avoid I wouldn't recommend it lol
6:36pm Amanda Whosoever LOL that's the first thing that came to mind XD
6:41pm Evelyn Kate Whelan your vid up yet?
6:45pm Amanda Whosoever No I haven't decided to upload it yet lol
6:46pm Evelyn Kate Whelan oh ok
6:47pm Amanda Whosoever I'm a chicken rotfl Hey what do you think about this... It came outta me today. We believe in Eternal security right... So this phrase keeps coming to me "Narrow is the way wide is the path to destruction" So narrow means go against the grain, not in the way of others.... And wide is the path to self destruction religion chaos confusion.... What say you about that understanding?
6:53pm Evelyn Kate Whelan that's good
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Amanda Whosoever I think I'm gonna call my video "thinking outside of the box" and redo it with the understanding He just gave me Either that or "What If"

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Conversation started August 10

12:12pm Evelyn Kate Whelan

so yes I do think it's more then just me disagreeing with her

12:15pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol thanks

12:22pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it's RELIGION

12:39pm Amanda Whosoever BINGO

1:13pm Evelyn Kate Whelan guilt by association

1:16pm Amanda Whosoever You are an pretty awesome woman Eve

1:17pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol

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4:25pm Amanda Whosoever what the heck is that... is it a spider bite?

4:25pm Amanda Whosoever ewwwww I hate bugs

4:25pm Amanda Whosoever ok well i dislike bugs lol

4:26pm Evelyn Kate Whelan anyways what's going on? ok

4:33pm Amanda Whosoever me either! EXACTLY!

4:33pm Amanda Whosoever LOL!!!!!!! EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE (wtf!)

4:34pm Amanda Whosoever LOL

4:35pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol

disagree on the gospel

4:38pm Evelyn Kate Whelan what's "atm"?

4:45pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I can't see it

4:46pm Amanda Whosoever

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4:47pm Amanda Whosoever according to her Im pretty unbalanced too lol

4:51pm Evelyn Kate Whelan

4:58pm Amanda Whosoever or tonya's dogmatic box really? "creative drama"

4:59pm Evelyn Kate Whelan

5:00pm Evelyn Kate Whelan your grandma?

5:00pm Evelyn Kate Whelan oh I'm sorry to hear that

5:01pm Amanda Whosoever its ok I know where she is

and she's in good hands

5:02pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yep

5:03pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yep

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5:39pm Evelyn Kate Whelan sad

6:08pm Amanda Whosoever

6:50pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I don't think your nuts

I do meditations do you think I'm nuts? lol

6:53pm Amanda Whosoever NOPE! Lol

6:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan right now I don't believe it

6:56pm Amanda Whosoever I don't believe in an eternal torment for Hell.

6:58pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yep

6:58pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yep

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7:03pm Amanda Whosoever We wouldn't wear pants either lol!

9:34pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Any thing new?

10:07pm Amanda Whosoever Lmao exactly or me... Who knows is right!

10:08pm Amanda Whosoever Not on a status she can see

10:08pm Evelyn Kate Whelan oh okay

10:10pm Evelyn Kate Whelan yep

10:30pm Evelyn Kate Whelan a new status?

10:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan lol wow

10:37pm Evelyn Kate Whelan it doesn't

10:56pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I hear ya

10:58pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I think it's sad

11:01pm Evelyn Kate Whelan brb

1:48am Amanda Whosoever No I didn't It should still be there

2:30pm Evelyn Kate Whelan Any word from Tonya?

2:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan I understand

Amanda Whosoever I'm only talking to a few people atm.

2:33pm Evelyn Kate Whelan don't blame ya there, guess what