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<\ Eve~t:Int~rview of FBI SPeCi~IAgentl .... ...

''::~pe of evennInterview

Da ..~~: January 5, 20M,

Speci~~::~ccess Issues: No~e'"

\,prepared"~~,:", Michael Jacobson

'eam Numlier.,~A

Lecation: FBI, P~OO~ixField Office ,

Pa~,dpants - Non~(:~~mission: Assistant General Counsel Sean O'Neill

\, Partlcipants - Commissien: Hyon Kim, Michael Jacobson

\1 \" Jwas the agent in~QI~d in th~ hnvestigati~~:t .. ~~""'_"""'!

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was the o,her agent involved in this investIgation.' Fas a roommate of Hanjour and
was also astudent at WestwindAviation and Arizona Aviation. He lived with Hanjour in
the 1998-1999 time frame, with B,@.nd,ar al-Hazmi.i Rayed Abdullah did not live there at
the time.' \. ~oted that Abdullah: w~s the back! up imam at the ICC. ,r----'baid that
they kicked H,anjo~r out of the apartrnentbecauselhe wasn't interacting'Wii'ii'them.
I I,did!" reall(~omment on his relationship with Bandar al-Hazmi and Rayed
Abdullah. \, aid that Hanjour did riot engage in an,Ysuspicious-behavior while they
were livirlg together. He was also surprised about Hanjour's involvement because he
thought Hanjour '~s,a ~o:~hLe pilot. He cO'uldii?,tbelieve that Hanjour could fly a plane
into the Pentagon.j .. ~ ~oted tha~ \ldi~\pas:s a polygraph.

I hfrom s:ri.~lia, ~h;llas lived for 10nge~;~'$ajqi Arabil/ He came to the US

solely to become a pilot, arid said that he dad w;a$ paying, for ~is education. He got to the
point in his training where he.could operate a double'engine plane, but then his dad could
no longer afford.to pay for his"'(f~,ining. The la~t!tim:: ", 'j was in 199~A Isaid
that his dad was very pious..and'was displeased ~it~ . greligious
enough and for not going to the mesque l!lueililfu,~houg1i \. oted that
originally they were conoernedthatmaybe ,:~dt~e same typeof guilt he ascribed

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to Hanjour (discussed beloW).buf't~er.~" is nothi*~!~~ s'!pport thi,~'''''.l'hve is oothinr to
indicate that he was studying to-be a,.p~M ,~efarious purposes. ~hinks
that th~ FBI was abl~ to determirie:t.h~r~ih¢r WaSpaYir for flight less?ns.
r--tlS.Y~~rp~or rI~ht. now, an~ IS 'hy~'~~~::~:~ a ~~~..f~~.Y"h~,~.~.~' has no real ties to
~mah Cornmunityin Phoenix. -. "',', :::::: " ...-

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• Hemet Hanjour through Ban~at~l~ffazn;i

mosque which Hanjour .andthe ot~er~,a~te'nd~'~'E,/ /!
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!{so attended thelCCh
\, thinks th~i
was the
id attend
the Saudi meetings..He told th~"F~Ythat he.:Wa$"more 0 an acquaintance 0 Hanjour than
a friend or closeassociate. WhiI.e'B:anjouT.:Was/'in.Tempe h~ didn't really socialize.

I laIi~~:that H~~wasrecruite4bya!-Qa' ida in 1999, He thinks that Hanj our

was recruited after.he leftthe-Phoenix .area and returned to Saudi Arabia. He noted that
Hanjour was aguilt ~.ned
person, H~':~oul,d go :but drinking and then he would spend the
next day praying, He didsay that he rioticed that Hanjour was 'enamored of UBL.

---!s~;~thath~gil~ot have IJiUC~cop;act with Hknjour after-he returned to Phoenix,

He said thathe only saw Hanjour.once.But he' couldn't give an exact time frame. On that
one occ~s'ion. hesaid that Bandar al-H~zmi ~as trying to find Hanjour, and he asked
I . Ito
ca~J.,Hanjour for h~,nil,/
I \,
f'said t~t Raissi also approached him looking for
HanJour,:/',//// !

rtwas arrested after' 9/11 for being out/of status, He was married to an American.
~s not deported because they were not deporting people back to'Somalia, given the
conditions there. :/:/ !! ::
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One point ofsuspicion was tha id have tie to Soubra. $::: He was in'0ail with
Soubra fOf:,about 2 m n h ft ....,........ ' he thought'
Soubra 'Y~S'L... ~ .....

I t~"al~Opretty close to Akeel Collins.] !was the one who reported, that Akeel
Collins h~tl made the comment to him (well prior to 9/11) that he would like Dto fly
a plane },ritoAir Force One when the President was out in Phoenix.

Dhas ties to Raissi, though he says that he hates him. He said that he last saw him
pre 9/11.