Chief Arthur Edge, WCSO - 03-11-14 Deposition Transcript (Federal) - Redacted

Arthur Edge, March 11, 2014
Paul Murphy v. Whatcom County

3206 Wetmore Avenue, Suite 12 - Everett, Washington 98201
BMA Court Reporters, (425) 252.7277
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7 UNI TED STATES OF DI STRI CT COURT
8 WESTERN DI STRI CT OF WASHI NGTON AT SEATTLE
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10 PAUL MURPHY, t oget her wi t h hi s )
mar i t al communi t y, )
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13 WHATCOM COUNTY, WASHI NGTON, a )
gover nment ent i t y; WHATCOM COUNTY )
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ELFO, t oget her wi t h hi s mar i t al )
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Mar ch 11t h, 2014
21 What comCount y Cour t house
311 Gr and Avenue
22 Bel l i ngham, Washi ngt on 98225
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Repor t ed by Kr i st en M. Uhl i g
24 Cer t i f i ed Cour t Repor t er , CCR, CSR
Washi ngt on CCR #1934
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1 A P P E A R A N C E S
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3 FOR THE PLAI NTI FFS:
Rober t But l er & Emi l y Beschen
4 Law Of f i ces of Rober t But l er
103 East Hol l y St r eet Sui t e 512
360. 734. 3448
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7 FOR THE DEFENDANTS WHATCOM COUNTY & SHERI FF' S DEPARTMENT & ELFO
Dal e Kamer r er
8 Law Lyman Dani el Kamer r er Bogdanovi ch
2674 RWJ ohnson Bl vd SW
9 Tumwat er , Washi ngt on 98512
360. 754. 3480
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11 FOR WHATCOM COUNTY:
El i zabet h Gal l er y
12 What comCount y Pr osecut or ' s Of f i ce
311 Gr and Avenue
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ALSO PRESENT:
15 Wi l l i amEl f o
Tar a Adr i an- St avi k
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17 I N D E X
18 EXAMI NATI ON: PAGE
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1 ARTHUR EDGE,
2 havi ng been f i r st dul y swor n, was cal l ed as a wi t ness her ei n and
3 was exami ned and t est i f i ed as f ol l ows:
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5 DI RECT EXAMI NATI ON
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7 BY MR. BUTLER:
8 Q Woul d you pl ease st at e your name and spel l i t f or t he r ecor d?
9 A Ar t hur Edge, A- R- T- H- U- R E- D- G- E.
10 Q Wher e ar e you empl oyed?
11 A What comCount y Sher i f f ' s Of f i ce.
12 Q Have you ever had your deposi t i on t aken bef or e?
13 A Yes, I have.
14 Q How many t i mes?
15 A Two or t hr ee.
16 Q I n connect i on wi t h your wor k or per sonal mat t er s?
17 A I t was i n connect i on wi t h wor k.
18 Q Okay. How l ong have you been empl oyed wi t h t he sher i f f ' s
19 depar t ment ?
20 A Twent y- si x year s.
21 Q Can you gener al l y gi ve me your pr omot i onal hi st or y? You
22 st ar t ed as a deput y?
23 A Ri ght . I wor ked f or ot her - - t wo ot her pr evi ous l aw
24 enf or cement agenci es bef or e comi ng her e.
25 Q Let ' s st op t hat - - wher e di d you wor k bef or e? What ot her
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1 agenci es?
2 A Wel l , I was a - - I was a MP i n t he mi l i t ar y and af t er I got out
3 of t he mi l i t ar y, was hi r ed by t he Por t of Seat t l e Pol i ce. I
4 wor ked t her e f or about t hr ee- and- a- hal f year s. They wer e goi ng
5 t hr ough a l ayof f phase, so I t hen went t o Ki r kl and.
6 Q Okay.
7 A My wi f e i s f r omher e, so we want ed t o move up i n t hi s ar ea f r om
8 Pi er ce Count y, so t hat ' s how I ended up at t he sher i f f ' s
9 of f i ce.
10 Q What br anch di d you ser ve i n as an MP?
11 A Ar my.
12 Q So when you ar r i ved i n t he What comCount y Sher i f f ' s Depar t ment ,
13 gi ve me a l oose pr ogr essi on of your car eer t her e.
14 A I st ar t ed out as a l i ne deput y. And af t er I passed pr obat i on,
15 I was - - I woul d ki nd of consi der i t an evol ut i on of my
16 pr omot i onal st eps, I was assi gned as a f i el d t r ai ni ng of f i cer .
17 Q Okay.
18 A I di d t hat f or a per i od of about f our year s, and t hen I went t o
19 det ect i ves. I ser ved i n det ect i ves f or a coupl e of year s,
20 af t er whi ch I went back t o pat r ol . Pr obabl y - - I don' t
21 r emember exact l y t he year , i t was pr obabl y ' 95, ' 96, I was
22 pr omot ed t o ser geant .
23 Q Okay.
24 A I ser ved a coupl e of year s on pat r ol as a super vi sor , a
25 ser geant l i ne st af f , and t hen I t ook a posi t i on wi t h t he
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1 Nor t hwest Regi onal Dr ug Task For ce as t he super vi si ng ser geant .
2 For t hat , I ser ved t her e f or about f our - and- a- hal f year s or
3 f our - and- a- quar t er year s.
4 Q Roughl y what year ar e we at ?
5 A Ri ght now, we' r e at l at e ' 98 i s when I went t o t he t ask f or ce.
6 Q Al l r i ght .
7 A Fr omt he t ask f or ce, I came back t o pat r ol , and t hat was i n
8 2002. I n 2004, I was pr omot ed t o l i eut enant . I ser ved i n t hat
9 posi t i on f or al most t hr ee year s, a l i t t l e over t hr ee year s. I n
10 2007, t he f al l or t her eabout s, I was pr omot ed t o chi ef deput y,
11 chi ef ci vi l deput y suppor t bur eau.
12 Q Okay.
13 A And t hat ' s t he posi t i on t hat I hol d now.
14 Q Okay. Do you r ecal l an admi ni st r at i ve i nvest i gat i on t hat you
15 di d i n 2006 wi t h r egar ds t o a r epor t f r omNadi ne Et hr i dge?
16 A Nadi ne Et hr i dge.
17 Q She was t he r epor t i ng par t y.
18 A Yes, I do. Mm- hm.
19 Q Tel l me about t hat . What was t hat al l egat i on? Who di d i t
20 i nvol ve?
21 A I t i nvol ved a Deput y Sl i ck. The al l egat i ons wer e t hat he had
22 - - f or bet t er - - l ack of a bet t er t er m- - gr oped her on t he
23 dance f l oor basi cal l y i n f r ont of wi t nesses. Ther e was an
24 al t er cat i on because of i t and t hat compl ai nt came f or war d.
25 Q Di d you handl e t he i nvest i gat i on your sel f or di d you t ask i t
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1 out t o somebody el se?
2 A I was assi gned i t and I di d t he i nvest i gat i on.
3 Q What di d you do t o i nvest i gat e t hat ?
4 A Ther e was pr obabl y - - and I don' t r emember exact l y how many
5 wi t nesses - - t her e was at l east si x wi t nesses t hat wer e t her e
6 t hat saw t he al l egat i on. I t al ked wi t h t he vi ct i m. I t al ked
7 wi t h each i ndi vi dual per son. I al so i nt er vi ewed Gl enn, of
8 cour se, Deput y Sl i ck. I al so i nt er vi ewed t hi s gal ' s boyf r i end
9 who was t her e al so. I t hi nk t hat t hat was t he bul k of t he
10 f ol ks. I t was a l ar ge i nvest i gat i on.
11 Q Di d Gl enn admi t t o gr opi ng her ?
12 A He di d - - he sai d t hat he di dn' t r emember doi ng t hat .
13 Q Di d you f i nd ot her peopl e who wi t nessed i t - -
14 A Yes.
15 Q - - who sai d t hat he had, i n f act , done what t he al l egat i on was?
16 A Yes.
17 Q Di d he have a r eason f or why he coul dn' t r emember i t ?
18 A You know, wi t hout r evi ewi ng what t he t r anscr i pt says and t hi ngs
19 t hat I wr ot e about t hat , what I r ecal l i s t hat he di dn' t r ecal l
20 i t , I t hi nk, because of t he al cohol consumpt i on t hat he had
21 t hat day.
22 Q Al l r i ght . Gi ven t he - - hi s l ack of awar eness, I guess woul d
23 be a phr ase f or i t , and t he wi t nesses sayi ng t hat he had done
24 what was al l eged, what was t he out come of t hat i nvest i gat i on?
25 A Wel l , I wr ot e up t he r epor t and ci t ed t he appr opr i at e
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1 vi ol at i ons t hat occur r ed under our pol i cy and f or war ded t hat
2 f or r evi ew. And t hat goes t o t he sher i f f , t he under sher i f f , t o
3 make t he f i nal deci si on on t hat .
4 Q Do you know what happened?
5 A My r ecol l ect i on i s he was di sci pl i ned, but r et ai ned. I bel i eve
6 t hat he sought some hel p f or hi s al cohol pr obl em.
7 Q Okay. Have you par t i ci pat ed i n any ot her i nvest i gat i ons i n
8 your car eer wi t h t he depar t ment ?
9 A Yes. When I was pat r ol l i eut enant , I was t asked wi t h t aki ng
10 car e of and i nvest i gat i ng ci t i zen compl ai nt s - -
11 Q Okay.
12 A - - t hat came i n.
13 Q And di d - -
14 A Most of t hose wer e mi nor , mi nor compl ai nt s. I al so i ni t i al l y
15 st ar t ed an i nvest i gat i on, whi ch I handed of f t o Li eut enant
16 Rossmi l l er t o compl et e.
17 Q Whi ch one was t hat ?
18 A I t hi nk t hat i t was Kr i st en Cavender .
19 Q And t hat r el at ed t o Deput y Cool ey, di dn' t i t ?
20 A Yes, i t di d. Then Ser geant Cool ey.
21 Q Okay. You' r e awar e t hat Cool ey admi t t ed t o f ur ni shi ng t o
22 Kr i st en, who was under age; cor r ect ?
23 A I wasn' t par t of t hat i nt er vi ew pr ocess, but I had hear d t hat
24 he was cooper at i ve, yes.
25 Q And he di dn' t br i ng t hat f or war d hi msel f ? Li ke, hey, j ust want
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1 t o l et you guys know t hat I ' mdat i ng and gi vi ng al cohol t o
2 Kr i st en Cavender ?
3 A No.
4 MR. KAMERRER: I i nser t an obj ect i on t o pr ecede t he
5 answer t hat i t ' s vague, over br oad and ar gument i ve. Go ahead.
6 Q ( By Mr . But l er ) I t hi nk you t hat al r eady answer ed t hat . I t
7 was a no; cor r ect ?
8 A ( Wi t ness I ndi cat i ng) .
9 Q He j ust needs t o make hi s r ecor d f or t he obj ect i on.
10 A Sur e.
11 Q And t hen you get t o keep answer i ng.
12 A Okay.
13 Q I t ' s a dance t hat we do. Wer e you awar e of anybody el se
14 empl oyed i n t he sher i f f ' s depar t ment who has admi t t ed t o
15 commi t t i ng a cr i me and i s r et ai ned?
16 MR. KAMERRER: Obj ect i on. I t ' s ar gument i ve, vague and
17 over br oad and l acks f oundat i on.
18 THE WI TNESS: Woul d you ask me t hat agai n?
19 Q ( By Mr . But l er ) Sur e. You' ve been i n t he depar t ment f or
20 26 year s. Ar e you awar e of anybody el se i n your 26 year s who
21 admi t t ed t o commi t t i ng a cr i me and yet r et ai ned t hei r
22 empl oyment ?
23 MR. KAMERRER: Same obj ect i on.
24 THE WI TNESS: I per sonal l y? No. I don' t t hi nk so. I
25 per sonal l y don' t know.
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1 Q ( By Mr . But l er ) Okay. Cool ey' s posi t i on at t hat t i me was a
2 ser geant ?
3 A Yes.
4 Q Hi s cur r ent posi t i on i s i nspect or ; cor r ect ?
5 A Yes.
6 Q I s t hat consi der ed a pr omot i on i n t he depar t ment ?
7 A I woul d consi der i t a pr omot i on, yes.
8 Q Have you had - - do you know Ser geant Lar r y Fl ynn?
9 A Yes.
10 Q Have you had an oppor t uni t y t o wor k wi t h hi m?
11 A Mm- hm.
12 Q Have you had an oppor t uni t y t o devel op an opi ni on about hi s
13 cr edi bi l i t y, hi s t r ut hf ul ness?
14 A Yes.
15 Q What i s your opi ni on of Lar r y Fl ynn wi t h r egar ds t o hi s
16 cr edi bi l i t y?
17 A Lar r y i s a cr edi bl e i ndi vi dual as f ar as I amconcer ned. I
18 have not had any i nci dent s or an i nci dent t hat woul d cause me
19 t o t hi nk of anyt hi ng el se.
20 Q The same quest i on wi t h r egar d t o St eve Har r i s. Do you know
21 hi m?
22 A I do know hi m.
23 Q Have you had an oppor t uni t y t o devel op an opi ni on as t o hi s
24 cr edi bi l i t y and t r ut hf ul ness?
25 A I haven' t wor ked wi t h St eve t hat much, but I haven' t had any
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1 i nci dences or exper i ences t o l ead me t o bel i eve t hat he was
2 bei ng unt r ut hf ul about anyt hi ng t o me.
3 Q Okay. St eve Cool ey, do you have an opi ni on as t o hi s
4 t r ut hf ul ness and cr edi bi l i t y?
5 A Same t hi ng. He' s cr edi bl e as f ar as I amconcer ned. He hasn' t
6 l ed me t o bel i eve nor have I been i nvol ved i n any i nci dences
7 t hat he' s been unt r ut hf ul .
8 Q Okay. What about J ason Nyhus, do you know hi m?
9 A Yes.
10 Q Do you have an opi ni on as t o hi s t r ut hf ul ness and cr edi bi l i t y?
11 A I woul d have t o say t he same t hi ng. I don' t - - I don' t have
12 any pr obl emwi t h hi s cr edi bi l i t y. He' s not been i n a si t uat i on
13 or I ' ve been i n a si t uat i on wi t h hi mwher e he has expr essed
14 anyt hi ng t hat I have f ound t o be f al se.
15 Q Okay. I don' t r emember hi s f i r st name. Taddoni o? Deput y
16 Taddoni o?
17 A Mi ke.
18 Q Mi ke, do you know hi m?
19 A Yes, I do.
20 Q Do you have been an opi ni on as t o hi s cr edi bi l i t y and
21 t r ut hf ul ness?
22 A He' s cr edi bl e. I haven' t had any si t uat i ons or been i nvol ved
23 i n any conver sat i ons or anyt hi ng el se t hat woul d l ead me t o
24 bel i eve ot her wi se.
25 Q Al l r i ght . J er emy Fr eeman, do you know hi m?
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1 A Yes, I do.
2 Q And your opi ni on - - do you have an opi ni on as t o hi s
3 cr edi bi l i t y and t r ut hf ul ness?
4 A J er emy i s cr edi bl e. I don' t have - - I haven' t been i nvol ved i n
5 any si t uat i on wi t h hi m, nor have I had any conver sat i ons or
6 r emar ks t hat I have f ound t o be unt r ue.
7 Q Al l r i ght . Di d you have any connect i on t o t he Wi eder spohn
8 case? Do any i nvest i gat i on on t hat ?
9 A No.
10 Q Okay. Wi t h r egar ds t o t he i nvest i gat i on t hat Cool ey di d i n t he
11 mat t er of Mur phy, do you r ecal l bei ng i nt er vi ewed i n Mar ch
12 r egar di ng Deput y Mur phy' s comput er ?
13 A I nt er vi ewed i n Mar ch. By whom?
14 Q By Cool ey?
15 A I don' t r ecal l . I amsor r y. I don' t r ecal l t he nat ur e of t hat
16 conver sat i on.
17 Q Okay. Di d you do anyt hi ng t o pr epar e f or t oday' s dep?
18 A Yes.
19 Q And what di d you do t o pr epar e f or t he deposi t i on t oday?
20 A Conf i r mi ng my not es basi cal l y f r omt he t i me per i od wher e we - -
21 wher e I was i nvol ved i n t he acqui r i ng of Mur phy' s comput er - -
22 MDT.
23 Q Pr i or t o acqui r i ng hi s MDT, whi ch I bel i eve was t he 10t h of
24 Febr uar y 2012.
25 A Ri ght .
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1 Q Have you had any cont act wi t h Mur phy? Di d you wor k wi t h hi mat
2 al l ?
3 A He was - - I don' t r ecal l i f he was ever on any of my shi f t s.
4 I f he was, i t was onl y one or t wo. So as f ar as on t he st r eet
5 wor ki ng wi t h hi mas a deput y, I di dn' t have t hat much cont act
6 wi t h hi m.
7 Q What had you hear d about hi mof f i ce- wi se? What had you hear d
8 about Paul Mur phy bef or e Febr uar y of 2012?
9 A I don' t t hi nk t hat I ' ve hear d a whol e l ot . I mean, he was
10 i nvol ved i n - - I amassumi ng t hat you' r e meani ng t he t i me
11 per i od when he was i n det ect i ves.
12 Q Wer e you awar e t hat he opposed El f o, f or exampl e, i n t he
13 campai gn?
14 A Yes.
15 Q How di d you l ear n of t hat ?
16 A Wel l , I under st ood t hat he had a Facebook page t hat was open t o
17 vi ewi ng.
18 Q Di d you ever vi ew i t ?
19 A I di d.
20 Q And di d you ever t al k t o El f o about i t ?
21 A Di d I ever t al k t o El f o about t he page?
22 Q Yeah. Or di d he ever t al k t o you? Was t her e ever a di scussi on
23 about t hat page?
24 A I ' msur e t hat t her e wer e some comment , but I don' t speci f i cal l y
25 r emember any comment s i n par t i cul ar .
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1 Q Di d you suppor t El f o i n t he el ect i on?
2 A I di d.
3 Q Okay. Di d you par t i ci pat e i n any campai gn event s?
4 A No.
5 Q Di d you par t i ci pat e i n any f undr ai si ng or - -
6 A No. I di d not .
7 Q Get out t he vot es t ype of t hi ng?
8 A No.
9 Q Okay. Does What comCount y Sher i f f ' s Of f i ce have a Facebook
10 page?
11 A Yes.
12 Q Have you had any par t i ci pat i on wi t h t hat as an admi ni st r at or or
13 any connect i on t o i t ?
14 A I have cont r i but ed t o t hat , basi cal l y, a br i ef synopsi s of my
15 r ol e, what I over see and t he wor ki ngs of r ecor ds and vol unt eer
16 ser vi ces. So basi cal l y i t was an i nf or mat i onal t hi ng f or t he
17 publ i c.
18 Q So you put a post up about what you do t ype of t hi ng?
19 A Yes.
20 Q Okay. Have you ever been an admi ni st r at or of i t ?
21 A No.
22 Q Do you know who i s t he admi ni st r at or of t he Facebook page?
23 A I bel i eve t hat i t ' s t he under sher i f f .
24 Q When Rossmi l l er t ook Mur phy' s comput er on Febr uar y 10t h, di d
25 you have any f ur t her cont act wi t h - - i n t hat i nvest i gat i on
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1 af t er j ust bei ng a wi t ness t o t hat ?
2 A Wel l , I di d wi t h t he I T di r ect or wi t h t he machi ne t hat was
3 basi cal l y mechani cal .
4 Q Descr i be f or me what you ar e meani ng wi t h t hat answer .
5 A Wel l , on t he 10t h, we t ook t he machi ne and Rossmi l l er r et ai ned
6 t hat over t he weekend. And t hen Monday, I t hi nk on t he 13t h,
7 t hat machi ne was di r ect ed t o me and I cont act ed t he di r ect or of
8 I T.
9 Q I s t hat Per r y Ri ce?
10 A Per r y Ri ce. Per r y came down t o my of f i ce. We phot ogr aphed t he
11 r emoval of t he - - and document ed exact l y what we di d wi t h t hat
12 machi ne i n r emovi ng t he har d dr i ve t hat was i n i t .
13 Q And t o your r ecol l ect i on, was t hat a har d dr i ve t hat had been
14 put i n t her e by t he count y?
15 A I assume so, yes.
16 Q Di d you have any conver sat i ons wi t h Ri ce about t hat pr ocess?
17 Thi s l ooks r i ght , t hi s doesn' t l ook r i ght , anyt hi ng l i ke t hat ?
18 A Wel l , we r emoved t he har d dr i ve out of t he machi ne. Bei ng a
19 Toughbook, i t has a copper f oi l cover on t he har d dr i ve and
20 t hat i s used t o heat t he har d dr i ve up i f t he Toughbook get s
21 t oo col d. I t wi l l go t hr ough a pr eheat pr ocess.
22 I di d not i ce when we pul l ed i t out t hat t her e was
23 mul t i pl e f i nger pr i nt and smudges al l over t hat copper t hat had
24 been et ched. I t hought t hat t hat was unusual t o see t hat many
25 f i nger pr i nt s on t hat , t hat par t i cul ar pi ece.
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1 Q Okay. Di d you send t hose f i nger pr i nt s f or anal ysi s?
2 A I di d not , no.
3 Q Do you know i f t hat occur r ed?
4 A I do not know.
5 Q I f you di dn' t t ask t hat t o be done, who el se woul d have been i n
6 t hat i nvest i gat i on t hat woul d have t asked t hat ?
7 A Wel l , wi t h my - - i n t al ki ng about t he f i nger pr i nt s, my f i r st
8 quest i on was - - I ment i oned t hat t o one of t he I T f ol ks. He
9 sai d no, t hat ' s - - I ' ve seen t hat bef or e, appar ent l y ei t her
10 dur i ng some pr ocess t hat t hey wer e mai nt ai ni ng t he Toughbooks,
11 but he sai d t hat t her e have been f i nger pr i nt s on t hose bef or e,
12 so he' s seen t hat .
13 Q Di d t hat end your i nqui r y as f ar as t he - -
14 A I di dn' t push t he f i nger pr i nt i ssue, no.
15 Q Okay. So when you saw t hat , di d you t hi nk t hat t hose woul d
16 have been Paul ' s f i nger pr i nt s on t hat ?
17 A I don' t know.
18 Q When you saw t hat and you asked t he I T peopl e, what wer e you
19 t hi nki ng? That t hose woul d - -
20 A Wel l , obvi ousl y, when you see f i nger pr i nt s, you want t o know or
21 you' r e t hi nki ng about , how di d t hey get t her e? So t hat was t he
22 pr ocess why I asked.
23 Q Di d t hat end t he i nqui r y f or you? That I T says, yeah, t her e' s
24 f i nger pr i nt s on t her e, i t ' s not unusual ?
25 A I di dn' t do anyt hi ng el se about t hat as f ar as t hat was
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1 concer ned. My r ol e at t hat t i me was t o be a wi t ness t her e wi t h
2 t he I T di r ect or t o pul l t hat har d dr i ve and t o make sur e t hat
3 we di d t hat cor r ect l y.
4 Q Okay. Pr i or t o goi ng out on t he 10t h t o col l ect t he har d dr i ve
5 or t o col l ect t he MDT, do you r ecal l a meet i ng wi t h Rossmi l l er
6 and Par ks and El f o?
7 A Yes.
8 Q Tel l me about t hat meet i ng.
9 A What I r ecal l was t hat , basi cal l y, we went over t he pl an on how
10 t hi s was t o occur . And t hat i t was deci ded t hat we want ed a
11 st af f l evel of f i cer t o be t her e t o wi t ness as wel l wi t h a
12 l i eut enant . I t t ur ned out t hat t her e was a ser geant pr esent as
13 wel l when t he MDT was t aken.
14 Ther e was goi ng t o be a set - - al r eady est abl i shed gr oup
15 of quest i ons so t hat al l of t hese quest i ons coul d be r ead
16 ver bat i m. And t hat t her e wasn' t any doubt what was goi ng t o be
17 asked and what was goi ng t o be r epor t ed t o Deput y Mur phy.
18 Q Whose i dea was i t as t o t he quest i ons t hat wer e asked?
19 A I don' t r ecal l i f i t was one - - any one per son i n par t i cul ar .
20 I t mi ght have been t he gr oup.
21 Q Okay. Wer e you awar e f r omt hose meet i ngs - - f r ommeet i ngs l i ke
22 t hat and conver sat i ons of t he concer n i n t he depar t ment f or
23 what Paul had been post i ng on var i ous Facebook pages and/ or
24 ot her websi t es?
25 A At t hat poi nt , I wasn' t awar e t hat he was doi ng anyt hi ng l i ke
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1 t hat . What I was awar e of i s t hat t her e wer e - - what I knew
2 about i t at t hat poi nt was t hat t her e was some al l egat i ons t hat
3 Paul had been put t i ng a di f f er ent dr i ve i n hi s machi ne or
4 ment i oni ng somet hi ng t o t hat ef f ect . And t hat - - t hat ' s what
5 - - t hat ' s how we got t o t hat poi nt .
6 Q Okay. Wer e you i n any conver sat i ons bef or e t hat about t he
7 SECTOR cl ass - -
8 A Mm- hm.
9 Q - - wher e t he conver sat i on appar ent l y t ook pl ace about cl oni ng?
10 A I wasn' t t her e. So you' r e aski ng what my i nvol vement was?
11 Q Af t er t he SECTOR cl ass and bef or e t he i nvest i gat i on, wer e you
12 i nvol ved i n any conver sat i ons wher e somebody sai d t hat t hi s i s
13 what we sai d, we shoul d i nvest i gat e t hi s?
14 A No.
15 Q Anyt hi ng l i ke t hat ?
16 A No. Huh- huh.
17 Q Okay.
18 A I r eal l y st ar t ed t o know about t hat when we had our meet i ng
19 bef or e t hat t aki ng t he Toughbook.
20 Q Okay. Wer e you essent i al l y br ought i n at t hat poi nt because
21 t hey want ed your l evel t o be pr esent ?
22 A I t hi nk t hat t he sher i f f want ed command st af f t her e and
23 ever ybody t o be awar e of what t he si t uat i on was. I act ual l y
24 vol unt eer ed t o be pr esent because t he ot her chi ef , Chi ef
25 Chadwi ck, was not goi ng t o be avai l abl e, so I vol unt eer ed.
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1 Q Okay. Al l r i ght . Do you know why or wer e you i n any
2 conver sat i ons or meet i ngs wi t h Rossmi l l er bei ng t asked t o si t
3 i n on t he Cool ey i nvest i gat i on of Mur phy?
4 A No.
5 Q Ar e you awar e of any r eason f r omyour exper i ence of 26 year s
6 doi ng i nvest i gat i ons - -
7 A Mm- hm.
8 Q - - of why a per son who was par t of t he i nvest i gat i on, a
9 wi t ness, woul d be t asked wi t h super vi si ng an i nvest i gat i on?
10 MR. KAMERRER: Obj ect i on. Mi sst at es t he evi dence.
11 I t ' s vague, ambi guous, cal l s f or specul at i on.
12 THE WI TNESS: You' r e goi ng t o have t o ask me t hat
13 agai n.
14 Q ( By Mr . But l er ) Okay. Rossmi l l er was j ust i n her e.
15 A Ri ght .
16 Q And he sat i n on a Cool ey i nt er vi ew of Mur phy i n May.
17 A Okay.
18 Q He i ndi cat ed t hat he was t her e t o r ead t he quest i ons - - t he
19 quest i ons t hat wer e goi ng t o be asked wer e scr i pt ed.
20 A Ri ght .
21 Q And he was t her e t o make sur e t hat Cool ey asked al l of t hose
22 quest i ons. Ar e you - - so gi ven t hat as hi s t ask, ar e you awar e
23 of any r eason why somebody who was al so a par t of t he
24 i nvest i gat i on - -
25 MR. KAMERRER: I want t o j ust get an obj ect i on i n.
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1 THE WI TNESS: No.
2 MR. KAMERRER: The same obj ect i on t hat I st at ed
3 ear l i er and i t mi sst at es Li eut enant Rossmi l l er ' s t est i mony. Go
4 ahead t hough.
5 THE WI TNESS: I don' t know. I wasn' t par t of t hat
6 pr ocess. So why he was t her e, I coul dn' t t el l you.
7 Q ( By Mr . But l er ) When you wer e i nt er vi ewed, di d t he
8 under sher i f f or t he sher i f f send anybody t o make sur e t hat
9 Cool ey asked you t he r i ght quest i ons?
10 A No. Ther e wasn' t anybody el se.
11 Q Okay. Ar e you awar e of any r eason f r omyour exper i ence why
12 Cool ey woul dn' t be abl e t o ask t he quest i ons t hat wer e scr i pt ed
13 f or hi mt o ask?
14 A Agai n, I wasn' t i nvol ved i n t he pr ocess, but I guess not .
15 MR. BUTLER: Okay. I have not hi ng f ur t her .
16 MR. KAMERRER: I have no quest i ons.
17 ( Si gnat ur e Reser ved)
18 ( Deposi t i on Adj our ned)
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1 C E R T I F I C A T E
2 STATE OF WASHI NGTON )
) ss.
3 COUNTY OF I SLAND )
4 I , Kr i st en M. Uhl i g, t he under si gned CCR i n and f or t he St at e
of Washi ngt on, do her eby cer t i f y:
5
That t he annexed and f or egoi ng deposi t i on of t he wi t ness
6 named her ei n was t aken st enogr aphi cal l y bef or e me and t r anscr i bed
by me;
7
I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat t he wi t ness exami ned, r ead, and si gned
8 t he deposi t i on af t er t he same was t r anscr i bed, unl ess i ndi cat ed i n
t he r ecor d t hat t he par t i es and t he wi t ness wai ve t he si gnat ur e;
9
I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat al l of t he obj ect i ons made at t he t i me
10 of sai d exami nat i on t o my qual i f i cat i ons or t he manner of t aki ng
t he deposi t i on, or t o t he conduct of any par t y, have been not ed by
11 me upon sai d deposi t i on;
12 I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat I amnot a r el at i ve or empl oyee or
at t or ney or counsel of any of t he par t i es t o sai d act i on or
13 counsel , and t hat I amnot f i nanci al l y i nt er est ed i n t he sai d
act i on or t he out come t her eof ;
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I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat t he deposi t i on, as t r anscr i bed, i s a
15 f ul l , t r ue, and accur at e t r anscr i pt of t he t est i mony, i ncl udi ng al l
quest i ons and answer s, and al l obj ect i ons, mot i ons and except i ons
16 of counsel made and t aken at t he t i me of t he f or egoi ng exami nat i on;
17 I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat I amseal i ng t he deposi t i on i n an
envel ope wi t h t he t i t l e t o t he above cause t her eon and mar ked
18 " Deposi t i on Upon Or al Exami nat i on" of sai d wi t ness and pr ompt l y
causi ng t he same t o be del i ver ed or f or war ded t o Counsel f or t he
19 Opposi ng Par t y;
20 I N WI TNESS THEREOF, I have her eunt o set my hand and af f i xed
my of f i ci al seal t hi s ___ day of ____________, 2014.
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23 Kr i st en M. Uhl i g, #1934
Cer t i f i ed Cour t Repor t er ,
24 Resi di ng i n Cl i nt on, Washi ngt on.
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