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Ive been tinkering with tDCS for several months now including doing lots of reading and
building of prototype devices. I also have a number of friends who are giving it a try. Along
the way Ive learned a number of things that could be useful to others:
1. Read, read, read. Lots of tDCS articles and dialog are on the web and more every day.
2. Seek professional help with tDCS if at all possible. For example www.
transcranialbrainstimulation.com
3. Safety first! Read mine and other articles about tDCS safety. http://www.speakwisdom.com/tdcs
4. The popular ActivaDose II seems to be a good device for tDCS a bit edgy in its current regulation
which may be irritating to some
5. tDCS devices built around the LM334 seem to work very well and provide very smooth adjustments
to current level
6. Information on treatment montages is a bit scattered, but getting better (see my doc below for a
start)
In conjunction with the above, here is the schematic I use to build devices to tinker with. There are
many other designs on the web.
(This is my favorite design. Simple, smooth, works.)
(Almost done. A bit more soldering)
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(Digital meter in place of analog.)
(Same basic design, just digital mA meter.)
And finally, here is a link to a bit of doc Ive written for use with the home-built tDCS research device
and ActivaDose II.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/491815/tDCS%20Session%20Setup%20with%20tDCS%20Research%20Device%20OR%20ActivaDose%20II.doc
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John Humphrey
FEBRUARY 10, 2013 @ 10:42 PM
Excellent! Thank You!
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Keith Spaulding
FEBRUARY 11, 2013 @ 12:36 PM
Did you see a difference in the waveform for the ActivaDose II device compared to
the DIY LM334 circuit?
Did you notice a difference in the sensation (burning, flashing) for the ActivaDose II
device and compared to the DIY LM334 circuit?
Very nice entry, thanks for the information.
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SpeakWisdom
FEBRUARY 11, 2013 @ 1:04 PM
My observation is that the LM334 produces a much cleaner output than
does the ActivaDose II. Again my observation: The ActivaDose II
produces more flashes and irritation than does an LM334 based device.
See http://www.speakwisdom.com/tdcs for an article I did on tDCS and
ripple.
Brent
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David Winn
FEBRUARY 27, 2013 @ 12:21 PM
While surfing the Inteernet about TDCS and CES, I found a site called
TransHumani.com that linked to a forum portal, where a member discussed unit he
had built (and sold). Seemed to be quite knowlegeble ob the build process and
implementation. Unfortunately I wasnt able to register on the wiki sitein order to
contact him. The post is CES/TDCS Devices For Sale at
http://transhumani.com/topic78.html .
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Prami Abuser
MARCH 9, 2013 @ 1:59 PM
you didnt answer my question but it was a stupid question, anyways where
did you buy the digi meter, Ive built the exact device base on your
schematic and per your documentation have begun to to do savant
stimulation.
My real question would be, where do i stimulate to improve my math and
problem solving skill, since im a mech engineer student and we solved a
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lot of math and Force equationif you know what I mean?
SpeakWisdom
MARCH 9, 2013 @ 5:13 PM
Sorry I missed the questions. You can buy the digital meters
on EBay and Amazon. I get the 0-20 mA meter.
Ill have future posts regarding electrode placement based on
studies published on the web.
Brent
Prami Abuser
MARCH 9, 2013 @ 3:17 PM
I wonder what happens if you go beyond the 25 min recommendation time, and go for
like a full 8 hour like sleep and leave it on all night?
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SpeakWisdom
MARCH 9, 2013 @ 5:13 PM
I have no idea, but would not recommend it.
Brent
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John A
JUNE 25, 2013 @ 2:09 AM
Well in my experience:
Firstly, your sponge electrodes- you should be using sponge electrodes-
will dry out long before the 8hr mark. Unless youre in a rainforest or
something.
Secondly, the longer you continue a run the greater the chance one of your
electrodes will come part-way off and possibly give a significant burn
before you awake. This is very unlikely with sponge electrodes at least.
Finally, after a run of 1, 2 or 3+ hrs youll feel a bit like a hangover is
passing. There are almost certainly chemicals like neurotransmitters and
nutrients being exhausted in the effected cells which will need to be
replenished.
Its far from clear how long an ideal run should be or the rest required
thereafter. 20-20mins is entirely reasonable yet its status as the Norm is
more to do with the nerve of the earliest experimenters than anything else;
thats what they did and so the literature consists of the replications.
At some point there will be good information on effects and consequences
of various durations and current densities, montages, even wave-forms
and frequencies- but not yet.
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John A
JUNE 25, 2013 @ 2:21 AM
PS, 20-20mins shouldve been 20-30mins.
While Im at it I should stress that I saw no particular benefit to
runs of ten times longer than standard practice. Its difficult to
say without large scale replication of blinded trials but the only
obvious difference is that sense of a fading hangover, which
feels less like one fading the longer you go.
SpeakWisdom
JULY 4, 2013 @ 2:05 PM
There are studies already completed that show diminishing
returns after 20-30 minutes of treatment. I havent seen anything
that indicates longer treatment time adds value.
Brent
John A
JULY 23, 2013 @ 6:51 PM
Good to know, thanks. BTW, does that apply to both anodal and
cathodal stimulation?
Dave Winn
MARCH 11, 2013 @ 9:44 AM
Please excuse my ignorance on some of this. I understand the basic principle of
TDCS, the current flow and most of the parts, but am a little confused on the
electrodes. Many articles talk about Anode and Cathode electrodes. Is it the type of
material inside the electrode that determines if its one or the other? Or, is there
some other factors? When I looked up sponge electrodes on the Internet, the
descriptions do not appear to have any reference to the electrode being Anode or
Cathode. Do electrodes come individually or as a set and when looking at the
electrodes, how do you tell the difference? Thank you!
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SpeakWisdom
MARCH 11, 2013 @ 11:29 AM
Hi Dave,
The anode is the positive electrode, the cathode is the negative electrode.
Electrodes seem to be mostly sold individually so two must be ordered.
Brent
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Dave Winn
MARCH 11, 2013 @ 12:19 PM
But is each electrode somehow identified as Anode or Cathode.
Maybe Im missing something, but the online sales sites dont
seem to identify the electrodes as being Anode or Cathode. As
Iunderstand it, the current flow process is determined by wether
the ANode or Cathode electrode is connected to the positve side
(hopefully I said that right).
SpeakWisdom
MARCH 11, 2013 @ 4:42 PM
The anode is the electrode connected to the positive lead of the
tDCS device. The cathode is the electrode connected to the
negative lead of the tDCS device.
Brent
Alex M.
MARCH 25, 2013 @ 7:08 PM
I would like to see a source list made of the components and a reliable supplier.
Construction techniques would be very useful too. Your hard work is appreciated.
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SpeakWisdom
APRIL 5, 2013 @ 3:16 PM
You should find my latest post helpful.
Brent
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Omega Ra
OCTOBER 31, 2013 @ 3:27 PM
Which post is that? I am looking for a BOM for this, as most of
it seems to be Radioshack parts (though I dont see a 100-Ohm
pot at Radoshack)
SpeakWisdom
NOVEMBER 1, 2013 @ 6:57 AM
100 ohm potentiometers are available from several vendors.
Google search to find the best deal.
Brent
Sophmore-WizeFool
JULY 3, 2014 @ 11:26 PM
Which post? I took a look at your blog post directly after this
one
(http://speakwisdom.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/introduction-to-
tdcs-devices-treatment-and-more-part-1-of-many/) and didnt see
anything on parts. Where did you purchase the case for your
analog model? Do you have a part number for the case? Your
hard work is much appreciated.
SpeakWisdom
JULY 14, 2014 @ 2:52 AM
There are many parts sources on the internet (including ebay
and Amazon.) The case I used came from Radio Shack.
Brent
Gill
APRIL 3, 2013 @ 7:08 AM
Hi Brent, forgive my ignorance of electrical engineering, but is your current control
knob attached to the potentiometer? Im assuming that the pot is what youre using
to control the current with the LM334. Or am I sorely mistaken?
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SpeakWisdom
APRIL 5, 2013 @ 3:16 PM
Yes to a potentiometer.
Brent
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Alex
APRIL 5, 2013 @ 11:13 PM
Ace!
I need a back up machine. I do tdcs everyday at least 2x a day 8 hours apart
different montages. Depression, motor cortex and language area (behind my left
ear).It has changed me. I feel as if my brain is doing better than before i did tdcs. A
bit faster, i am not depressed, I am afflicted with bipolar 2 depression. when you
suffer from an illness that results in 20% of those afflicted trying to kill themselves
and 11% doing so something that works is so great. It REALLY helps with pain. Not
to make this available to people suffering is a shame. Of course I am very lucky.
extrapolating from various studies is at best hit or miss as to what will really happen
to you. I have also made mistakes. Fortunately I make an effort not to do anything
that i find uncomfortable twice. So I must say please try to do this right. Consistency
seems to reinforce neuroplasticity. I know that this empirical approach probably rubs
the theorists wrong but I am your lab rat. Thanks for your excellent work.
Oh yeah my verbal memory seems increased and oddly enough my handiness that
is I have been very left handed but now not as much. supposedly this is due to
tdcss influence on the motor cortex.
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shan
JUNE 19, 2013 @ 11:31 AM
I have procured a tdcs device. My doctor gave me tdcs for depressio for 8
days, helped me alot. I am gonna do it on my own now. Do u recommened
tdcs everyday for a couple of hourss?? is it safe if done more than an
hour??
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SpeakWisdom
JUNE 20, 2013 @ 6:00 PM
Hi Shan,
I dont prescribe tDCS treatment scenarious. You need to do
some serious reading on tDCS and current practices. Most
users stay with the research norm of 20 to 30 minutes up to
several days per week.
Best of luck.
Brent
Terry Dowd
OCTOBER 4, 2013 @ 6:20 AM
Bob Beck said when using CES stimulation more than 40
minutes per session will negate the positive effects. As John A
stated above long sessions will deplete your neuro chemicals
Dr. Bob Beck recommended 20 minutes 1 or 2 times daily.
chillgrooves
JULY 16, 2014 @ 3:29 PM
Alex Exactly which device were you using? I want to be sure the one I
buy (for me, my first device) gives me results as least as good as yours,
as I suffer from similar issues to yours. Thanks!
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Alex
JULY 16, 2014 @ 5:16 PM
I use a Chattanooga Ionto and have a Dupel which is the same
thing, as a backup. Any iontophoresis machine with similar
specs would be fine too. You have to get Arex sponge
electrodes separatly and attach bannana plugs instead of the
clips that it comes with. Easy to do.
Josh Houle
JULY 3, 2013 @ 5:17 PM
could we get a higher resolution view of the schematic? I cannot read the text around
the switch or LED.
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SpeakWisdom
JULY 4, 2013 @ 2:13 PM
Ill try to make a more permanent link on my blog. But for now, here is a
link to the schematic in my Dropbox.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/491815/User%20Built%20tDCS%20Research%20Device%20-
%20Brent%20feb%202013.JPG
Brent
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Josh Houle
JULY 14, 2013 @ 1:44 PM
Thanks! I built it, but I have not tested it yet, as my electrodes
have not arrived yet.
Josh Houle
JULY 14, 2013 @ 2:22 PM
I have built this device. When I test it with a 5k resistor or larger as a test load, it
operates as expected, turning the pot changes the amperage between .5 mA and 2
mA. If I use a resistance much lower the max current will be higher. Is this the
correct operation for this circuit?
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Josh Houle
JULY 14, 2013 @ 2:24 PM
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That is when I use a resistance lower than 5k turning the pot all the way to the right
creates a current higher than 2mA.
edward
OCTOBER 21, 2013 @ 9:50 AM
where did you find a digital meter that could monitor a 1mA current? all the affordable
ones i ve seen wouldn t go under a 200mA sensitivity
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SpeakWisdom
OCTOBER 21, 2013 @ 6:27 PM
Check EBay. They have analog and digital meters that will read very low
current levels. Ive seen some on Amazon, too.
Brent
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John A
OCTOBER 22, 2013 @ 3:36 AM
Huh? Excuse me but even the $5 throw-aways sold at Harbor Freight read
my 2mA output with several of them all agreeing to within 10% or so of the
same value.
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buckshotcharlie
MAY 20, 2014 @ 2:58 PM
I believe this is one.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/0-36-Digital-Ammeter-Red-LED-
Display-DC-0-20-00mA-Current-Measurement-Amperemeter-Ampere-
Meter/402798_676925798.html
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SpeakWisdom
MAY 21, 2014 @ 12:34 PM
That looks like it will work.
Brent
fatetrader2013
OCTOBER 23, 2013 @ 8:19 AM
SpeakWisdom, can you please post pictures of your device interior?
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SpeakWisdom
OCTOBER 24, 2013 @ 7:12 AM
All of my constructed devices are in use. Interior photos will have to wait
till I build another.
Brent
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Ron
OCTOBER 28, 2013 @ 11:31 AM
This is great.
2 things:
1. what does it say above the red lead, anode on your circuit blueprint?
2. why does the Reddit Tdcs unit have the meter before the LM334 and the
potentiometer?
Wouldnt that mean you schematic is the only correct one because it is able to
varying the current prior to a readout from the meter?
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SpeakWisdom
OCTOBER 29, 2013 @ 1:49 PM
Hi Ron,
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Sorry it does not show up better. It says LED & Resistor pair. Suggest RS
276-0209.
Brent
fatetrader2013
NOVEMBER 5, 2013 @ 8:08 AM
SpeakWisdom, can you have a look at this design, it is basic but I need something
like this to start with.
I made it just like this guy and it works, question is is it done the right way?
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fatetrader2013
NOVEMBER 5, 2013 @ 8:11 AM
This is the right link
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fatetrader2013
NOVEMBER 5, 2013 @ 8:12 AM
it keeps posting the wrong video, the title is My tDCS device and if you type it on
you tube it is the first one from the top
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Bobsled
NOVEMBER 18, 2013 @ 1:43 AM
Hi, need help with electrodes. How large? Can you/should you use larger electrodes
to effect greater area. Im particularly interested in cath for reducing cortical hyper
excitability. How do you maximize electrode contact thru thick hair? For cath where
should one place anode? Again reducing excitability is key.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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SpeakWisdom
NOVEMBER 21, 2013 @ 9:39 AM
Most that I am aware of are using Amrex 22 or 33 electrodes available
from Amazon and many others. They are sponge electrodes that you wet
with saline. Seem to work well through hair.
Brent
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Neil Rudnick
DECEMBER 2, 2013 @ 4:30 PM
Hello Dr. Williams. Im a novice with electronics. Can you recommend a source for
learning circuit building? I have a few questions about how/why the circuit is built the
way it is. Like, why is there a 15 Ohm resistor after the pot?
Thanks!
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SpeakWisdom
DECEMBER 12, 2013 @ 4:59 PM
Hi Neil,
That resistor is present to make sure the resistance between the two leads
can not go to zero, thus limiting the current range of the regulator.
I dont know of a specific electronics tutorial site, but Im pretty sure you
could find a few via a Google search.
Brent
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tom
JANUARY 5, 2014 @ 5:14 PM
hi how do i make this, could you upload a video or step by step guide on how to build
this? thanks tom
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SpeakWisdom
JANUARY 6, 2014 @ 2:46 PM
Hi Tom,
I have no plans to make available more detailed construction guidance at
this time. You might want to take a look at the commercial products now
coming into the market, some very inexpensive.
Brent
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keith
JANUARY 7, 2014 @ 10:40 AM
Hi Brent,
Do you know of any devices coming out that we dont know of?
keith
SpeakWisdom
JANUARY 8, 2014 @ 10:28 AM
Hi Keith,
No Im not aware of anything that is not already out there.
Hopefully some new tDCS devices are on the way though.
Brent
Bart
JANUARY 30, 2014 @ 3:10 PM
Brent, sounds like for the complete novice, youd recommend the ActivaDose II,
based on the original post here, is that correct and/or do you have any comments
about the Foc.us device in comparison, Im ready to order one and get going.
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SpeakWisdom
FEBRUARY 2, 2014 @ 8:44 PM
Hi Bart,
I like all of the devices on the market for specific situations. Youll find the
Activadose II used a good bit in the research and medical world, but the
foc.us headset has advantages in ease of use and portability. They are
both good products and there are others!
Brent
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Bart
FEBRUARY 5, 2014 @ 12:39 AM
Thanks Brent, I have ordered the Foc.us! Looks like it will arrive
within two days and Ive got your User Guide ready to go, will
post more later, thank you so much for the information!
chillgrooves
JULY 16, 2014 @ 3:32 PM
HI Bart (or anyone who can chime in), has Foc.us worked for you? How did
its effectiveness compare to the ActivaDose II? Im trying to choose my
first device, whether cheaper or more expensive,
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DMR
FEBRUARY 4, 2014 @ 11:18 AM
Brent from the pictures, it looks like you step up from the analog to digital meter
easily. According to one of your previous posts, the meter needs an outside current
source. Did you just syphon some of the electricity from the 9v, or did you add an
additional battery to the source?
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SpeakWisdom
FEBRUARY 4, 2014 @ 1:24 PM
I prefer to use a small 12v cell for tDCS and a 9v battery to power the
display.
Brent
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buckshotcharlie
MAY 20, 2014 @ 11:16 AM
Brent, Do you have a circuit diagram that includes both
batteries? Thanks for your work and guidance.
SpeakWisdom
MAY 21, 2014 @ 12:35 PM
Im working on a more step-by-step build article that I think will
be helpful.
Brent
Juan Rasmussen
MAY 17, 2014 @ 8:33 PM
Are you using the LM334Z? I found a few different ones with different letters at the
end of the numbers.
Amazon:
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6pcs LM334Z National Semiconductor Constant Current Source IC TO-92
SpeakWisdom
MAY 21, 2014 @ 12:39 PM
That should work fine.
Brent
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Juan Rasmussen
MAY 17, 2014 @ 8:42 PM
Also, is your 470ohm, 100ohm, and 15ohm all resisters?
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SpeakWisdom
MAY 21, 2014 @ 12:38 PM
Yes RadioShack has them.
Brent
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buckshotcharlie
MAY 20, 2014 @ 12:16 PM
Brent, I am trying to source the component parts to build the User-Built tDCS
Research Device. This is my list so far.
LIST OF COMPONENTS
======================
Type 23A 12v Battery
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Energizer A23 Battery, 12 Volt 2 Pack
======================
Type 23A 12v Battery Holder
5Pcs 23A/A23 Battery (12V) Clip Holder Box Case Black
======================
470 Ohm resistor
RESISTOR 1 WATT METAL OXIDE FILM FLAMEPROOF 470 OHM 2% AXIAL LEAD 10/PKG
======================
15 Ohm resistor
RESISTOR 1 WATT METAL OXIDE FILM FLAMEPROOF 15 OHM 2% AXIAL LEAD 10/PKG
======================
100 Ohm Potentiometer
100 Ohm Linear Taper Wire-Wound Potentiometer
======================
0 3 mA Panel Meter
DC 3mA Analog AMP Current Panel Meter Ammeter Gauge 85C1
======================
5 or 10 mA Fast-acting Fuse
I could not find such a fuse. Do you know where I could find one?
======================
LED & Resistor pair Suggest RS 276-0209
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062567
Is this the correct component? It is the closest I could find, but I am not sure it is the
correct one.
======================
Momentary Contact Switch
Momentary N.O. Push Button Switch
On Amazon, this is called Momentary N.O. Push Button Switch. Is N.O. correct?
======================
LM334
6pcs LM334Z National Semiconductor Constant Current Source IC TO-92
Here it is called LM334Z. Is the Z OK?
======================
Summary
- Could not find the 5 or 10 mA Fast-acting Fuse
- Is the momentary contact switch N.O.?
- Is LM334Z OK?
======================
Your help and review of this list would be very helpful for me and perhaps many
others who follow your blog.
Thank you.
kerduhyy@sharklasers.com
JUNE 5, 2014 @ 12:20 PM
More or less an Old post by now, but I hope you might answer my question
nonetheless.
I am always a bit confused with anode and cathode. Am I right, that the anode
electrode (the electrode to stimulate a certain brain area) is hooked up to the plus
terminal of the battery, whereas the cathode electrode is hooked up to the minus
terminal of the battery?
Additionally, is the LM334 a necessary element of a tDCS device? I made a test set-
up without it and according to my ammeter, the current must flow at a pretty constant
state (very small movement of the needle, if any).
I would really appreciate an answer, thank you!
B.K.
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SpeakWisdom
JUNE 7, 2014 @ 1:24 PM
Yes the anode is the positive lead.
Resistor based devices (without current regulator) can be built (there is an
article on my blog about how to do it.) They can work fine if monitored.
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Brent
kerduhyy@sharklasers.com
JUNE 8, 2014 @ 6:10 AM
Thanks for the clarification and information!
Steven
JUNE 18, 2014 @ 5:33 AM
Hi thanks for the great work and sharing the results!
I have a question for anyone who has tried this and has more electrical knowledge
than myself: what happens if you use a 9v battery (the one i happen to have on
hand)?
I was reading up on tRNS and looking online for random noise circuits but did not find
much. Can this tDCS research device be modified for tRNS?
Thanks again everyone!
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corrado
JULY 9, 2014 @ 9:53 AM
Hi SpeakWisdom;
If I have understood well, your device is a CONSTANT CURRENT one ?
What if I would emit a waveform at a particular (or regulable) frequency ?
Thanks for the suggestions and for you valuable work!
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SpeakWisdom
JULY 14, 2014 @ 2:44 AM
Yes tDCS is built around current regulated DC. AC is not in my area of
reading and research. DC seems so promising havent heard of similar
success rate with variable frequency. Plus the circuit gets much more
complex.
Brent
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JL Paul
JULY 11, 2014 @ 4:04 AM
Maybe a dumb question, but what kind of resistor is in between the contact test
switch and the LED light? 470?
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SpeakWisdom
JULY 14, 2014 @ 2:31 AM
A 390 ohm resistor will suffice for a typical led.
Brent
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Brent
JULY 12, 2014 @ 5:20 PM
HI Brent, (I am also Brent!)
What is the value of the resistor in series with the LED? Or does the LED you have
specified come with it built in? The RS specification does not say.
thanks
Brent
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SpeakWisdom
JULY 14, 2014 @ 2:30 AM
It is a resistor/LED pair sold as one component just for convenience.
You could use a 390 ohm resistor in series with a typical led and get the
same result.
Brent
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Greg
JULY 14, 2014 @ 1:45 PM
One can also Google LED resistor calculator. One of the first search results in
led.linear1.org which asks for 3 pieces of info on the LED you plan to use. Supply
voltage (battery voltage in most cases), then the forward voltage and forward current
which are given by the LED mfg. Plug those in and it calculates the necessary
resistor.
Also found that red LED use the least amount of current so it could be better to stick
with those.
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chillgrooves
JULY 16, 2014 @ 3:35 PM
Does anyone know if a pulsing square DC wave, such as from TENS unit, can do the
same job as a unit designed for tDCS, as long as the charge is correct?
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Daniel Tourigny
JULY 4, 2014 @ 11:58 PM
Also, there was an earlier comment from a fellow trying to put together and he was
unable to find the right fuse. Try as I might, I cannot find one either.
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SpeakWisdom
JULY 14, 2014 @ 2:48 AM
I have found them on ebay, though they seem to come and go.
Brent
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