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Functions
by Total Gadha - Thursday, 2 July 2009, 10:33 AM
Re: Functions
by Rohit Ghosh - Thursday, 2 July 2009, 01:31 PM
Re: Functions
by abhik chakraborty - Thursday, 2 July 2009, 04:12 PM
tg sir,
i am puzzled of what category i am till now. but one thing i know for
sure what i should try to be or at least try to do. and the article on
function is incredible.
thank you.
Re: Functions
by Total Gadha - Thursday, 2 July 2009, 04:38 PM
Hi Abhik,
I really do not know about that but I think you (and everyone else)
should read thishttp://totalgadha.com/tgtown/amitkumar/2009/05/16/are-u-reallypreparing/
Total Gadha
Re: Functions
by Veena Binya - Thursday, 2 July 2009, 04:35 PM
Hi TG..
The range of the function 1/1+root(x) has been given as [0,1]
Should it not be (0,1] ?
Because it can only tend to 0, but can never become 0....
Regards
Veena
Re: Functions
by Nikhil Rajagopalan - Thursday, 2 July 2009, 06:00 PM
nice one
Re: Functions
by CATching CAT - Thursday, 2 July 2009, 06:24 PM
Re: Functions
hi tg sir......
really this article abt to know urself that in which catagory i am, is
really inspirable.........n also basic knowledge abt function is very
good.
thank you sir
Re: Functions
by William Wallace - Friday, 3 July 2009, 02:07 PM
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by ayush roy - Friday, 3 July 2009, 03:56 PM
sir
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by shiva chepuri - Friday, 3 July 2009, 06:58 PM
Doubt In Functions
by A B C - Saturday, 4 July 2009, 01:43 PM
HI TG...
I have a doubt here..
Re: Functions
by Total Gadha - Saturday, 4 July 2009, 06:18 PM
Hi Shiva,
Give me one example when it is more than 2.
Total Gadha
Hi Shailendra,
I don't see the statement you have mentioned. The case you are
mentioning, I have specified that it is an even function. Where is the
contradiction?
Total Gadha
Hi TG
i found your article very thought-provoking and clear cut.Himanshu's
blog was also very inspirational.In my opinion any serious CAT
aspirant who reads your article would become more dedicated
towards his/her CAT preparation.Your explanation of functions was
also very useful.I just want 1 advice from you.I'm not natural with
quant.Even though i've been practising all along,i'm not sure if i can
think as analytically as most of the other aspirants who are strong in
quant .so far i've tried to cover all chapters but i would like to know if
i'd be able to crack the quant section if i'm well versed with number
system,geometry,averages,percentages,alligations,profit and
loss,interest,functions,set
theory,progressions,probability,logarithms,surds and
indices.although i'm practising problems from P&C,Mensuration but i
get stuck when the sum is slightly twisted.this is worrying me.
Regards
manjushaa
Re: Functions
by Mohit Sharma - Sunday, 5 July 2009, 01:40 AM
Nice Article...Tg
Hi Manjusha,
The trick to get good at quant is to try and solve a lot of problems on
your own. Try to solve them in any which manner that you can- by
putting values, by generalizing, by longer methods or by using
theorems etc. But solve as much as you can. You will get good at
this as you go along.
Total Gadha
Hi TG..
The range of the function 1/1+root(x) has been given as [0,1]
Should it not be (0,1] ?
Because it can only tend to 0, but can never become 0....
Regards
Veena
hi TG
Thanks for the reply.
previously when cat was CBT,it was feasible to leave few tough topics like P&
etc if we were strong with number
system,geometry,P&L,percentages,functions,averages,alligations,progressi
the new pattern do we have cover the entire syllabus?how is it possible to so
computer screen especially the ones which involve tables where we need to
rankings etc?Since skimming and scanning of RCs,skillful selection of sitter
redundant now,what should be our new strategy?
can some one explain the question, area between the coordinate
axis and fff(x). I am nt getting it.
Re: Functions
by Prakash jain - Wednesday, 8 July 2009, 07:48 AM
sir you have realy openend my eyes, i belong to the 1st category, i
have been pretending to prepare for CAT since 2 year but today i
have realised that my previous efforts were not true, now I promise
you that i will seriously prepare for this exam,and will perform
well,thank you so much for such a wonderful article...
Re: Functions
by Dipanjan Biswas - Wednesday, 8 July 2009, 12:18 PM
At first I want to give you thanks for writing such a helluva article..It
helped me to find my loopholes regarding one of the most important
sections of quant.
I would like to draw your attention on a few typo errors..
(1)How to draw a graph of F(x): Point number three..Latter one
should be for maximum..
(2)f(x)=x^3(x+2) the second derivative of this function is positive..
Sir,
I find it hard to draw any rectangular hyperbola graph..Can you
elucidate it further..
TG Rockzzz\m/
Re: Functions
by dishant dhokia - Thursday, 9 July 2009, 11:58 AM
Re: Functions
by Dipanjan Biswas - Friday, 10 July 2009, 08:21 AM
Hi Dishant,
Look at the function..
See f(x) = x/2 if x is even
= x+1 if x is odd
In other way
x=2f(x) if f(x) is either even or odd
x=f(x)-1 if f(x) is even
As f(x)=19=odd
so x=38
likewise f(x)=38
x=76 or 37
likewise f(x)=76
x=152 or 75
for f(x)=37
x=74
so {x}=>{74,75,152}
Hope it helps
Cheers!!
Got a doubt
by Varun Agrawal - Friday, 10 July 2009, 03:01 PM
Re: Functions
yes sir
got it
but it should be [-2,2]
if i am wrong
plz correct
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by Varun Goenka - Sunday, 12 July 2009, 10:22 PM
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by Ashish Kumar - Thursday, 16 July 2009, 12:23 AM
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by A S - Thursday, 16 July 2009, 04:19 AM
Hi TG,
Re: Functions
by A S - Thursday, 16 July 2009, 04:24 AM
hi dishant,
take it this way...can f(x) ever be odd?
when x is odd, f(x)=x+1...so it will always give you even f(x)..
when x is even, f(x)=x/2; this is only chance when you can get odd
f(x)..
here f(m) [m=f(f(x)) ] is odd.....so m must be even...
that means m/2=38
so, m=76 i.e. f(f(x))=76..
hope it helps
Re: Functions
by piyush dixit - Friday, 17 July 2009, 09:39 PM
HI TG,
I am a frequent reader of your post, and following this site almost
since its inception. I am an adherent fan of yours, BUT I am very
disappointed with this article of yours, and hence writing to you for
the first time. I guess, you started this whole exercise of
totalgadha.com to ridicule the jargon taught by famous coaching
classes in their curriculum to show their superiority among the
students community, TG i belive you started the exercise to change
the way education system works at this level. But it seems you are
getting infected by the same BUG.
Re: Functions
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 19 July 2009, 10:49 PM
Hi Piyush,
I am infected by what I do, down to my last nail. My opinion
should hardly matter to you. Take what is good and ignore
everything else.
Total Gadha
Re: Functions
by Surinder Pal Singh - Saturday, 25 July 2009, 09:43 AM
Hi TG Sir,
Excellent article.
But the link above is infected with a Trojan Horse.
Kindly verify its integrity as I was just saved by my firewall.
Keep up the good work
Regards
Surinder
Re: Functions
by gaurav kaushal - Sunday, 26 July 2009, 11:35 PM
hi tg sir ,
thx for this gr8 article.....
now dat i v read this whole article ...where can i get some questions
related to this article...so dat i can just make the concepts more
clear
thanks a lot..sir
Re: Functions
by vivek ghiria - Monday, 27 July 2009, 10:09 AM
Hi TG
I have few doubts in Functions.
If the first derivative f'(x) is positive, then the function f(x) is
increasing.
If the first derivative f'(x) is negative, then the function f(x) is
decreasing.
For f(x) = x^3-4x^2+1
f'(x) = 3x^2-8x ....(1)
Now how to know whether expression (1) is +ve or -ve to determine
increasing or decreasing charactersitic?
Also I recall there is some way to determine whether f(x) is
continuous or not from first derivative of f(x).
Please explain that rule also.
Thanks Vivek
g(x) is calculated for some x and some value is obtained. later "this
value" is put into f(x). so f(g(x)) is not actually x^6.
e.g. for x= 2, g(x) = g(2) = 4
so f(g(x)) = f(4) = 4^3.
now (4)^3 and (-4)^3 are not same right :P
Re: Functions
by dilip rathore - Tuesday, 4 August 2009, 04:34 PM
hi vivek,
i think we check f''(x) to determine if the function is increasing or
decreasing.
for your example f(x) = x^3-4x^2+1
f'(x) = 3x2 - 8x
f''(x) = 6x-8
for x > 4/3 , function is increasing and for less than 4/3 , its
decreasing (slope).
pls let me know if i am wrong
Re: Functions
by himanshu gupta - Saturday, 8 August 2009, 07:28 PM
thank u sir 4 such a good article.sir is thr any oter approach to solve
th last 2 ques??
Re: Functions
by abhishek tripathi - Sunday, 9 August 2009, 04:14 AM
well sir i am a new user over here i found dis site preety useful but
regarding first question to find out the range can u exactly tell me
how do we aarive at 38 when (fx)=19 since it is odd and according 2
function definaion in da question it should be x+1=20 me will b very
glad if u tell me how 2 solve dese type of questions.
Re: Functions
by Jiggs Sanyal - Monday, 17 August 2009, 10:03 AM
Hello TG Sir,
I am a hardcore fan of your articles and of the TG website.
It is the first website that I open everyday. But for the last few weeks,
I have been sort of disappointed coming here, because you have
completely stopped writing articles for people like me who are not a
part of the CAT CBT club. In one of the discussion forums, I had
seen you mention that TG is for those who have the zeal to make
their dreams come true. I have the requisite zeal but then TG now
seems to have become more and more commercialised. I am not
against commercialisation but you should keep in mind those who
have the zeal but not the bulky pockets to pay.
Sorry If I hurt you in any way. you are the ideal motivator to me.
Re: Functions
by Jai Prakash - Saturday, 22 August 2009, 07:39 PM
Re: Functions
by Vivek .. - Saturday, 5 September 2009, 01:30 PM
Re: Functions
by saurabh chauhan - Saturday, 5 September 2009, 11:27 PM
Hi Jay...
nice quote...
"ITS BETTER TO FAIL IN DOING SOMETHING THAN TO EXCEL
IN DOING NOTHING."
i'll make this my driving factor rom today...and many thanks to
TG..the article.."Are u really prepaing?" inspired me a lot...nw i'll
really pepare and get through......my prep. starts now.................3 2
1......go....
saurabh
Re: Functions
by Vivek .. - Sunday, 6 September 2009, 09:19 AM
Re: Functions
by Jai Prakash - Monday, 7 September 2009, 04:51 PM
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Re: Functions
by subhadip mahalanabish - Wednesday, 16 September 2009,
01:45 PM
Dear TG sir,
consider the function y=x/(x^2+1). We have to find the range of this
function. If we directly put x=0, we will get y=0, then if we put x=1
then y=1/2, for x=3, y = 3/10, for y=4, x=4/17 and so on, so the
maximum value of the function is 1/2 at x=1 and then the function
decreases as x increases, same is true for negative values of x, in
the negative side minimum value of y is -1/2(at x= -1) and then y
increases as x decreases. so range of the function should be -1/2
<= y <= +1/2 including y = 0.
But if we calulate in this way,
y = x/x^2 + 1
=> x^y -x + y= 0
=> x = {1+-sqrt(1-4y^2)}/2*y.
Hence range will be, -1/2<=y<=+1/2 excluding y = 0.
Here we are seeing that y cant be equal to zero.
But previously we already saw that y can be 0 for x= 0.
How can we remove the confusion of which result is to be used?
regards,
Subhadip.
Re: Functions
by subhadip mahalanabish - Wednesday, 16 September 2009,
03:45 PM
hi all,
On giving a second look I found myself that the function is
discontinuous at x=0.Probably this is the reason why y=0 is not to be
considered in the range of the the function.
regards,
Subhadip.
Re: Functions
by hbk Not joining IIML - Saturday, 19 September 2009, 06:18 PM
@subhadip
In your approach we are considering the eqn (x^2)y -x+y as a
quadratic in x having coft of y. By defn of quadratic eqn coeft of x^2
can't be zero hence with this approach we may not get y=0 as a
feasible. It has to checked separately.
thanx.....
by raghav sharma - Sunday, 27 September 2009, 03:34 PM
sir...
your adomitable aproach towards conspt has really given a lot of helf
to me solve my probs....
thanx a ton...
Dear TG sir,
I have a doubt in the solution to the question,
Let f(x) be a function with domain 0<=x<=1 defined as
2x if 0<=x<=1/2
f(x) = {
-2x + 2 if 1/2<=x<=1
Find the area of the curve y = f(f(f(x))) and the coordinate axis.
in the second line,
0 <= f(f(f(x))) <= 1 --> 1/2 <= f(f(x)) <= 1 --> 1/4 <= f(x) <= 1/2 -->1/8<=x<=1/4
The doubt is that if 1/2 <= f(f(x)) <= 1 then shouldn't it imply that
1/2 <= -2f(x) + 2 <= 1 which would imply 1/2 <= f(x) <= 3/4 ? Since
f(f(x)) lies in the interval [1/2,1], shouldn't we be using the second
part of the definition of f(x) ?.Kindly clarify my doubt.
I am having very similar doubts in the subsequent lines of the
solution.Kindly help me out.
Regards,
Subhash
Hello TG
I also couldn't understand the above mentioned question. Kindly
explain it.
Regards
SM
(1+x)^5=1+15c1*x+5c2*x^2+.......5c5*x^5
now,(1+15c1*a+15c2*a^2+...........15c15*a15)*(1+5c1*x+5c2*x^2+.......5c5*x^
Hi Amit,
Thanks for reply
And for the same problem if we have to find the coefficient of
x^4 then how we will proceed?
Thanks in advance!!!!!
Re: Functions
by G D - Tuesday, 6 July 2010, 05:27 PM
Nice one,
Re: Functions
by Tasmai Merchant - Monday, 26 July 2010, 05:14 PM
Hey Guys .....I wanna kno if buying books from Tg like number
system, or geometry wud be of any help....nd i can't find any book
on algebra...can u plz suggest me some options of buying one..
TG Sir,
Thanks a lot for your out of the world kind of materials.
I am just giving some lines on find the area of f(F(f(x)))...ques.
OOOPS late to reply but may be useful for guys who look from now
on.
First we will find f(f(x))
It should come as
4x ; 0x1/4
-4x + 2 ; 1/4x1/2
4x - 2 ; 1/2x3/4
-4x + 4 ; 3/4x1
Then find f(f(f(x))).This shuld be
8x ; 0x1/8
-8x + 2 ; 1/8x1/4
8x - 2 ; 1/4x3/8
-8x + 4 ; 3/8x1/2
8x - 4 ; 1/2x5/8
-8x + 6 ; 5/8x3/4
8x - 6 ; 3/4x7/8
-8x + 8 ; 7/8x1
Now the min value of each funct(straight line ) is 0 and max is 1.
You can verify it by sub. values
This gives us the graph that TG sir provided.
Hence area = 8 * (1/2*1/8*1) = 1/2 sq unit.
I hope there is no mistake.
Is it correct Sir???
Re: Functions
by Deepak Kumar - Thursday, 5 August 2010, 12:26 PM
Hi TG Sir,
Its always feel nice to read your articals.
For the last problem for calculating f(94), I approached this way.
As f(x)+ f(x-1)=x^2...........(1)
on replacing x with x+1;
f(x+1)+f(x)=(x+1)^2........(2)
Now subtracting (1) from (2)
f(x+1)-f(x-1)=2x+1..........(3)
On putting values of x as 93,89........19 will give LHS as
f(94)-f(18).
f(18) can be easily calculated from (1) when f(19) is given.
This approach will reduce RHS to an easy airthmatic progression.
thanks a lot for your help sir.
Re: Functions
by himanshu jha - Thursday, 5 August 2010, 06:40 PM
hi tg sir,
i know this is not the place to contact you..but i couldnt find any
other way...try to reach u thrgh ur admin mail but dat too in vain...i ve
just got one query i want to join cbt club..i want to pay thrgh demand
draft but in it "payable at" option is given..so what to fill in dat new
delhi r something else....if any other person knows it then please let
me know or any other way to contact tg sir...
thanxs in advance...
Re: Functions
by wishy wishy - Friday, 5 August 2011, 05:28 PM
Re: Functions
by Total Gadha - Friday, 5 August 2011, 10:02 PM
hi himanshu.
it should be New Delhi
Re: Functions
by Gregory Matchado - Thursday, 18 August 2011, 05:39 PM
Hi TG..
Thank you so much for all the articles.. !!!
And let me also tell you that you're videos on divisors, remainders
and co primes are just tooooooo brilliant...
Thanks a lot..
Re: Functions
by abhinay dutta - Thursday, 8 September 2011, 06:50 PM
hi,
i have calculated the last question in post and arrived at 4181.
guys please chk , and correct me if i m wrong....
Re: Functions
by nitin sharma - Friday, 16 September 2011, 11:58 AM
Hi TG sir
i didnot get the explanation of d 1st quest of f(f(f(x)))) where domain
of x was 0<x<1..som1 plz help me..i men how did u draw the graph..
Re: Functions
by IIM gadha - Friday, 16 September 2011, 12:26 PM
@TG sir,
The graph drawn for f(f(f(x))) is incorrect. Till 0<x<1/2, the graph is of
2x but from 1/2<x<1 the graph should be of -2X + 2 i.e the one with
negative slope not positive as shown in your graph. Though, the
area remains unaffected but the graph is wrong. Please correct me
or yourself.
Re: Functions
by TG Team - Friday, 16 September 2011, 04:47 PM
Vibha
Function given is for f(x) but the area is asked for f(f(f(x))).
Please check before posting.
Kamal Lohia
Re: Functions
@Kamal sir
Apologies!
Re: Functions
by ketav sharma - Saturday, 17 September 2011, 06:49 PM
Re: Functions
by Rahul Sharma - Tuesday, 11 October 2011, 08:13 PM
HI TG,
the below mentioned link that u shared is net getting opened, could
you please help me with it.
http://totalgadha.com/tgtown/amitkumar/2009/05/16/are-u-reallypreparing/
Rahul Sharma
Re: Functions
by Kamal Joshi - Friday, 14 October 2011, 09:07 PM
Dear TG sir,
The links such as these return a fatal error through out the site.
Kindly resolve the issue. can't afford to miss the Gyan from you.
http://totalgadha.com/tgtown/amitkumar/2009/05/16/are-u-reallypreparing/
Thanks to you, Kamal sir, Dagny ma'm and rest of the awesome
team!
Re: Functions
by vasu r - Tuesday, 18 October 2011, 01:03 PM
Re: Functions
by TG Team - Tuesday, 18 October 2011, 01:32 PM
Hi Vasu
Just don't look at the solution and only try to see/analyse the
question and thge function given.
See if f(x) is some linear function what about the degree of
f(f(x))????
It'll also remain a linear function as you are just replacing 'x' in f(x) by
f(x). So degree of f(f(x)) is not changing.
Similarly f(f(f(x))) is also a linear function. But as f(x) was a different
function in deferent periods, so is the case with f(f(f(x))) also. Now it
will be better that you try yourself to findout period and then graph of
new function.
Kamal Lohia
Re: Functions
by Ravi Kumar - Tuesday, 1 November 2011, 02:43 PM
Re: Functions
by IIM gadha - Friday, 16 September 2011, 12:26 PM
@TG sir,
The graph drawn for f(f(f(x))) is incorrect. Till 0<x<1/2, the graph is of
2x but from 1/2<x<1 the graph should be of -2X + 2 i.e the one with
negative slope not positive as shown in your graph. Though, the
area remains unaffected but the graph is wrong. Please correct me
or yourself.
Re: Functions
by King Casanov - Tuesday, 1 November 2011, 02:29 PM
Thanks in advance...
The KING
Re: Functions
by TG Team - Tuesday, 1 November 2011, 04:11 PM
Ravi
Thanks for the correction. It'll be updated in the article soon.
Kamal Lohia
Re: Functions
by ayush lakhotia - Monday, 7 November 2011, 06:29 PM
Kamal Sir,
f(a+b)=F(a)+F(b) and f(5)=12. Find F(12)
Please help me in solving this.
Re: Functions
by TG Team - Tuesday, 8 November 2011, 02:42 PM
Hi Ayush
Given is: f(a + b) = f(a) + f(b)
For a = b, we have: f(2a) = 2f(a)
Similarly if we put b = 2a in given equation, we get: f(3a) = 3f(a)
Re: Functions
by ashutosh kumar - Thursday, 14 June 2012, 10:25 AM
The above Link is showing error..Could u plz post the correct link...
Re: Functions
by ashutosh kumar - Thursday, 14 June 2012, 10:26 AM
The above Link is showing error..Could u plz post the correct link...