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Humidity Control

Principles and Practice

Including Advice From A Famous Bank Robber

Distinguished Lecture

Lew Harriman
Mason-Grant Consulting
Portsmouth, NH
MasonGrant.com
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2. Principles of humidity control

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1. Examples of common humidity control problems


2. Principles of humidity control
3. 5-Step design process for humidity control

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1. Examples of common humidity control problems


2. Principles of humidity control
3. 5-Step design process for humidity control
4. Summary

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Who do you work for?

HVAC Design consulting firm


Architectural design firm
Design-build or Energy Service company
Contracting or HVAC service company
Facility manager/building operator
Utility: Power or gas company

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Great Clinic building, great HVAC system... So


why did it grow mold 3 times in five years?

Indoor dew point = 12.0C (54F) - Excellent!

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Great Clinic building, great HVAC system... So


why did it grow mold 3 times in five years?

Indoor dew point = 12.0C (54F) - Excellent!

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Great Clinic building, great HVAC system... So


why did it grow mold 3 times in five years?

Indoor dew point = 12.0C (54F) - Excellent!

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Great Clinic building, great HVAC system... So


why did it grow mold 3 times in five years?

Indoor dew point = 12.0C (54F) - Excellent!

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School - Plenty of system capacity!... Why mold?

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New training building and new HVAC equipment...


Why mold and equipment failures?

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Fundamental Principles of Humidity Control

Humidity control costs money. Define the


PURPOSE for humidity control before you begin
any project.

Dehumidification performance of equipment


must equal or exceed the buildings humidity
loads. Therefore...

Quantify all humidity loads and...


Quantify dehumidification performance

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Quick refresher...
Psychrometrics for humidity control
75F
50% RH

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50% RH - Half of the maximum amount at 75F


A relative measurementit depends on temperature
75F
50% RH

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Humidity ratio - absolute humidity


75F
50% RH
65 gr/lb

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Dew point: The temperature at which moisture


begins to condense out of the air (also absolute)
75F
50% RH
65 gr/lb
55F

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Dew point: The temperature at which moisture


begins to condense out of the air (also absolute)
75F
50% RH
65 gr/lb
55F

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Example: Predicting condensation risk on cold


supply air diffusers
78F
65% RH

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Example: Predicting condensation risk on cold


supply air diffusers
78F
65% RH

78F
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Example: Predicting condensation risk on cold


supply air diffusers
78F
65% RH

78F
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Example: Predicting condensation risk on cold


supply air diffusers
78F
65% RH

65% RH

78F
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Example: Predicting condensation risk on cold


supply air diffusers
78F
65% RH

65% RH

78F
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Example: Predicting condensation risk on cold


supply air diffusers
78F
65% RH

65% RH

78F
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Example: Predicting condensation risk on cold


supply air diffusers
78F
65% RH

65
Dew
Point

65% RH

78F
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Exercise: Predicting condensation from humid air


infiltration into air conditioned buildings

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Exercise: Predicting condensation from humid air


infiltration into air conditioned buildings
In Chicago, summertime outdoor air being sucked
into the building cavities is 84F, 134 gr/lb.

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Exercise: Predicting condensation from humid air


infiltration into air conditioned buildings
In Chicago, summertime outdoor air being sucked
into the building cavities is 84F, 134 gr/lb.
How cold does an indoor wall surface have to be to
produce condensation?

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Exercise: Predicting condensation from humid air


infiltration into air conditioned buildings
In Chicago, summertime outdoor air being sucked
into the building cavities is 84F, 134 gr/lb.
How cold does an indoor wall surface have to be to
produce condensation?
In other words - What is the dew point of air at
84F, 134 gr/lb = ___?__)

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Predicting condensation risk inside interior walls


and above ceilings
84F
134 gr/lb

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Predicting condensation risk inside interior walls


and above ceilings
84F
134 gr/lb

78F
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Predicting condensation risk inside interior walls


and above ceilings
84F
134 gr/lb

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Predicting condensation risk inside interior walls


and above ceilings
84F
134 gr/lb
134 gr/lb

78F
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Predicting condensation risk inside interior walls


and above ceilings
84F
134 gr/lb
134 gr/lb

78F
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Predicting condensation risk inside interior walls


and above ceilings
84F
134 gr/lb
134 gr/lb

78F
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Predicting condensation risk inside interior walls


and above ceilings
84F
134 gr/lb
134 gr/lb

78F
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Predicting condensation risk inside interior walls


and above ceilings
84F
134 gr/lb
75
Dew
Point

134 gr/lb

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Designing for humidity control - 5-part sequence

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Designing for humidity control - 5-part sequence

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Defining the purpose of the project


Why insist the client define the purpose?
If client has no problem... no reason to spend
money on humidity control.
If consequences are not defined impossible to
say what that budget must be and impossible to
make rational decisions on the owners behalf.
A good project purpose definition includes what...
Results are expected
Happens when the results are NOT achieved
Shortcoming is acceptable
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Poor project definition


Control the humidity within the usual limits
for a hotel
Does not define what the system must
accomplish...

Human comfort?
Control everywhere? or just in the pool area?
Both high and low limits?
Always? Usually? Only when rooms are
occupied?

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Good definition of project purpose


Control the humidity in the hotel so that...

Neither condensation nor high rh can occur in building


cavities that would allow mold growth or other
moisture damage to the building or its furnishings.

Guest rooms, meeting rooms, dining rooms and offices


are held within the ASHRAE comfort zones during both
summer and winter seasons

The system achieves these goals during all but 2% of


the hours in a typical year.

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Step 2 - Establish control level that achieves


purpose for humidity control

55F Dew Point

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Step 2 - Establish control level that achieves


purpose for humidity control

55F Dew Point

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Step 3 - Calculate the humidity loads

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Step 3 - Calculate the humidity loads

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Step 3 - Calculate the humidity loads

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Step 3 - Calculate the humidity loads

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Step 3 - Calculate the humidity loads

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Step 3 - Calculate the humidity loads

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Step 3 - Calculate the humidity loads

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Largest loads?
Ventilation/makeup air and infiltration

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Largest loads?
Ventilation/makeup air and infiltration

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Retail building in Chicago - Humidity load estimate

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Retail building in Chicago - Humidity load estimate

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Retail building in Chicago - Humidity load estimate

Ventilation to dilute
contaminants from people

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Retail building in Chicago - Humidity load estimate

Ventilation to dilute
contaminants from people

Ventilation to dilute contaminants


from products and furnishings

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Retail building in Chicago - Humidity load estimate

Ventilation to dilute
contaminants from people

Ventilation to dilute contaminants


from products and furnishings

Air leakage into a tight building

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Peak humidity loads - ASHRAE Research 1997


Correcting 100 years of error - Now we know better

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Peak humidity loads - ASHRAE Research 1997


Correcting 100 years of error - Now we know better

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How to find the peak design dew point?


ASHRAE Fundamentals - 1997 or later

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How to find the peak design dew point?


ASHRAE Fundamentals - 1997 or later

...for Cooling load calculations

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How to find the peak design dew point?


ASHRAE Fundamentals - 1997 or later
...for dehumidification load calculations,
and DOAS system design

...for Cooling load calculations

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Chicago - ASHRAE peak humidity design conditions

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Chicago - ASHRAE peak humidity design conditions

0.4% Dry Bulb

0.4% Dew Point

Difference
at peak dew point

92 DB
74.6 MCWB

84DB
77.7MCWB

-8F DB

101 gr/lb

134 gr/lb

+33 gr/lb

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Chicago - ASHRAE peak humidity design conditions

0.4% Dry Bulb

0.4% Dew Point

Difference
at peak dew point

92 DB
74.6 MCWB

84DB
77.7MCWB

-8F DB

101 gr/lb

134 gr/lb

+33 gr/lb

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Chicago - ASHRAE peak humidity design conditions

0.4% Dry Bulb

0.4% Dew Point

Difference
at peak dew point

92 DB
74.6 MCWB

84DB
77.7MCWB

-8F DB

101 gr/lb

134 gr/lb

+33 gr/lb

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Chicago load at peak dry bulb vs. peak dew point

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Chicago load at peak dry bulb vs. peak dew point

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Chicago load at peak dry bulb vs. peak dew point

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Chicago load at peak dry bulb vs. peak dew point

65 lb/h at peak Dry Bulb

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Chicago load at peak dry bulb vs. peak dew point

65 lb/h at peak Dry Bulb

110 lb/h at peak Dew Point

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Step 4 - Size and select the dehumidifier

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Step 4 - Size and select the dehumidifier


Cool-Reheat Dehumidifier

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Step 4 - Size and select the dehumidifier


Cool-Reheat Dehumidifier

Desiccant Dehumidifier

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Cool-Reheat Dehumidifier

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Desiccant Dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Measuring Dehumidification
How to measure?

Humidity ratios
(gr/lb or g/kg)
before and after the
dehumidifier

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Finding the humidity ratio from temperature and RH


75F
50% RH

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Finding the humidity ratio from temperature and RH


75F
50% RH

75F
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Finding the humidity ratio from temperature and RH


75F
50% RH

75F
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Finding the humidity ratio from temperature and RH


75F
50% RH

50% RH

75F
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Finding the humidity ratio from temperature and RH


75F
50% RH

50% RH

75F
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Finding the humidity ratio from temperature and RH


75F
50% RH

50% RH

65
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Dehumidification equation

Where:!

lbs/h = Pounds of water vapor per hour!


CFM = Standard cubic ft/min!
gr/lb1 = Higher humidity ratio!
gr/lb2 = Lower humidity ratio!
7000 = grains of water vapor in a pound!

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Where to locate the DH in the system?

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Where to locate the DH in the system?

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Where to locate the DH in the system?

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Where to locate the DH in the system?

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Where to locate the DH in the system?

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Need expert advice?... consult an expert!

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Need expert advice?... consult an expert!

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Need expert advice?... consult an expert!


Reporter:

Willie, its a Federal Crime!


why rob BANKS?

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Need expert advice?... consult an expert!


Reporter:

Willie, its a Federal Crime!


why rob BANKS?

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Willie might ask you... wheres the humidity load?

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Willie might ask you... wheres the humidity load?

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Willie might ask you... wheres the humidity load?

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Willie might ask you... wheres the humidity load?

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Dry where the load is - DOAS controls humidity

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Typical layout - Big box retail

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Add return air connection for humidity control


during unoccupied hours and vacations

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Summary - Humidity Control Principles and Practice

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Summary - Humidity Control Principles and Practice

First and most important step: Define the purpose


for humidity control

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Summary - Humidity Control Principles and Practice

First and most important step: Define the purpose


for humidity control

To control humidity:

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Summary - Humidity Control Principles and Practice

First and most important step: Define the purpose


for humidity control

To control humidity:

Quantify humidity loads and

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Summary - Humidity Control Principles and Practice

First and most important step: Define the purpose


for humidity control

To control humidity:

Quantify humidity loads and

Quantify DH equipment performance

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Summary - Humidity Control Principles and Practice

First and most important step: Define the purpose


for humidity control

To control humidity:

Quantify humidity loads and

Quantify DH equipment performance

Biggest humidity load?... Ventilation and makeup


air, BY FAR the largest loads

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Summary - Humidity Control Principles and Practice

First and most important step: Define the purpose


for humidity control

To control humidity:

Quantify humidity loads and

Quantify DH equipment performance

Biggest humidity load?... Ventilation and makeup


air, BY FAR the largest loads

For easy humidity control - Dry the incoming air in


a dedicated outdoor air system (DOAS)

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Further ASHRAE Resources

Humidity Control
Design Guide

Guide for Buildings in


Hot and Humid Climates

ASHRAE Handbook
(Applications)

Lew Harriman
2011-2013 Chair, ASHRAE TC 1.12

(603) 431-0635
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