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agnosticism.
Here We Go Again
My first reaction to this as a regular
contributor to the journal was "Here we go
again!" I am frankly rather tired of the
incessant circular arguments that go on and
on ad infinitum between the Atheist and the
agnostic. These worthless arguments have
been continuing now in the "academic"
community for hundreds of years.
All of "philosophy," the world's most
useless discipline, has been consumed with
the need to bat the fundamental tenets of
idealism and materialism back and forth like
worn-out tennis balls. These discussions
have, for the most part, been conducted in
educational institutions and private clubs for
the very rich, or those fortunate enough to
be classed, through wealth and family,as the
literati. In essence, this is the supposed
creme de la creme of society, who have been
freed from the necessity of survival labor
and who have had nothing better to do with
their time than to contemplate the vastness
of the universe. Often the zeal of their
"study" has been directly proportional to the
level of boredom in their dull wretched lives
sitting around the manor waiting for the hunt
to begin. These experts on human thought
most often gained their titles in various fields
by simply "being there." If one hung around
a hospital and looked smart for long enough,
the others in charge (who did not know what
they were doing in any real sense either)
simply dubbed one a doctor. Any book
carrier in a law office could become a
barrister. Usually the philosophers of the
world were ushered into their positions as a
matter of birthright, not by virtue of their
superior intellect, or even by education.
I have always considered the output of
these self-appointed solvers of the "human
riddle" to be essentially the beating to death
of ideas with words. I think that is the kindest
way that it can be stated.
Back In The Real World
Meanwhile, back in the real world of social
and political struggle, the Bradlaughs, the
Besants, the Francis Wrights, the Owens of
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on biblical admonitions.
The works of militant Atheists are simply not
so palatable.
This obvious inclination towards apologetics turns me off cold. I cannot bring
myself to apologize for what I am nor can I be
less than honest about my conclusions concerning religion. It is impossible for me to
have my feet stuck in the flypaper. I want
free of it completely.
Why I Am An Atheist
For almost a year now, whenever I am
asked in the context of a media appearance
why I am an Atheist, I simply say, "Because I
have a high I.Q. and I use it."
I am then asked, "Are you saying that
someone who believes in god is either stupid
or less intelligent than you are?"
My reply is simply, "Yes."
"But that is an elitist position, is it not?"
they gasp.
Again, I reply, "Yes."
Atheists are superior intellectually to
those who have convinced themselves that
they need religion for some reason or other.
This is why I said, "Here we go again!"
with more analysis of agnosticism. The question of whether or not there is a god is totally
irrelevant to human life. The origin of the
universe is a totally irrelevant piece of information to our lives as well. I could care
less about the relative finiteness or infiniteness of the universe. Who gives a damn? I
am a finite organization and that is all that
has real significance to me. I don't understand why mankind has always had a driving
concern to answer the questions of "purpose" or "significance" with respect to human existence. My only purpose as an
animal is to continue my species by staying
alive to reproduce and see to the rearing of
my young. My existence has no special builtin significance. What significance there is in
my life, I make in my individual choice of life
style. But ifIceased to exist tomorrow everything else in the world would not cease with
me. Cycles would continue as before. There
are few of us around who can cope with this
knowledge, and I do not intend to be made
to feel inferior because I do not respect
someone who must construct an elaborate
mythological system to give their life an artificial"purpose" and "significance." Iwillcontinue to openly show my disrespect, my
intellectual repugnance, for those who cannot cope with their relative "insignificance"
and their singular purpose.
Who Wins Ultimately?
What is the use of trying to hide that contempt by even going to the extreme of
inventing a new term like agnosticism? I am
perfectly content in living a life of honesty
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I wanted to stand up and be counted. Anything that affects people affects me. Look around you. Young
and old. You know, you sit at home
thinking nobody cares. Then you
come out and see allthese people who
feel just like you do.
He was talking, in part, about John and
Minerva Massen, for they are the Directors
of the San Francisco Chapter of American
Atheists. And, we are allinexpressibly proud
that John and Minerva and Chapter representatives were there.
The next time that there is a demonstration in your home town - we suggest you
get your own sign, identifying yourself as an
American Atheist, and get in there with the
rest who care.
Certainly Bill Talley, the Director of the
Denver, Colorado, Chapter does that with a
great deal of regularity. And he is always
accompanied by a contingent of that Chapter. It was like that again on June 1 when
Governor Dick Lamm went to curry votes
with the Roman Catholic Church by meeting
with Cardinal John Krol, archbishop of the
Philadelphia see of that church, at a national
"Conference on Pornography" in Denver.
Krol was intent on attacking anyone who
was trying to "discredit religious leaders,
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The San Francisco Chapter of American Atheists March for Peace during the Spring
Mobilization on April 21, 1985.
That was about all that Bill Talley had to
hear. By that afternoon he had assembled a
group of Atheists to give the Cardinal and
Koop a bit of his own. Wearing T-shirts
bearing a "Holy Ghost-Buster" emblem, the
group had a smut read-in, strictly from the
Good Book. Talley mounted the back end of
a truck draped with an American flag and
read obscene Biblepassages. For one reporter he elaborated on the story of Genesis
wherein Lot commits incest with his two
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Schism
*Comprising for the Orthodox both the socalled Old Testament (Written Law) and the
post-Biblical compilation of laws and interpretations known as the Talmud (Oral Law).
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have received by Talmudic interpretation, are of divine origin, binding for all
time upon the Jew, and not one of
these commandments or prohibitions,
be its character what it may, can ever
be abolished or modified by any
human authority. 10
Nor has the Orthodox attitude concerning the inviolability of the Scriptures
changed. "[T]he whole Conservative and
Reform so-called approaches to Torah and
Halacha [are] absolutely groundless, erroneous, without any vestige of truth, designed to deceive the inexperienced," fulminates an eminent Talmudist, Dr. Chaim
Zimmerman. In a joint statement denouncing Aba Ebban's portrayal of Judaism in the
Autumn, 1984, PBS series "Heritage: Civilization and the Jews" five major Orthodox
organizations assailed the Jewish State's
most articulate defender for suggesting "our
sacred Torah" is a "man-authored work,
incorporating myth and legend, of our faith
as a slowly evolved invention, and our Godgiven Halacha as a changeable system ... "
The statement went on to say that, "A presentation of Judaism deriving from a secular
historical, cultural, and humanistic viewpoint, no matter how laudatory, misses the
entire focus and axis of Jewish history."!'
Now, the Talmudic interpretations referred to by the aforecited Polish rabbis have
proved a continuous source of embarrassment for progressive Jews. As Dr. Israel
Shahak has shown in a courageous study,
the Torah and certain quasi-canonical, postTalmudic literature (no less esteemed by the
Orthodox) abound with dubious, if not
clearly derogatory, references to nonJews.12 This is least of all evident to the
assimilated North American or lion-Orthodox Jew, familiar only with the English
Masoretic text of the Bible.
"[W]hen Orthodox Jews today (or all
Jews before about 1780) read the Bible, they
are reading a very different book, with a
totally different meaning, from the Bible as
read by non-Jews or non-Orthodox Jews,"
explains Shahak. ''This distinction applies
even in Israel, although both parties read the
text in Hebrew. Experience, particularly
since 1967, has repeatedly corroborated
this. Many Jews in Israel (and elsewhere)
who are not Orthodox and have little detailed knowledge of the Jewish religion, have
tried to shame Orthodox Israelis (or rightwingers who are strongly influenced by religion) out of their inhuman attitude towards
the Palestinians by quoting to them verses
from the Bible in their plain humane sense. It
was always found, however, that such arguments do not have the slightest effect on
those who follow classical Judaism."13
In his book, A History Of Zionism (New
York: Schocken, 1972), Walter Laqueur
describes the profound discomfort expe-
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coast to coast."
Recommended reading for Jewish parents is How to Stop an Intermarriage (New
York: Feldheim, 1984)by Oregon-born rabbi
Kalman Packouz, described on the back
cover as "an internationally renowned expert on intermarriage prevention." Ina resolute, matter-of-fact tone, Packouz proffers a
variety of polemical and even physically
coercive devices for thwarting a mixed marriage. One strategem calls for the rabbi concerned to ask the future bride (a Gentile
deemed ready for conversion) to repeat
after him a statement offensive to non-Jews.
"The essence of this method," explains
Packouz, is to pit "the non-Jew's latent antiSemitism and love for her religion against
her self-image as a would-be Jew."
According to a March 13, 1984, report by
Israel Shahak, certain Orthodox rabbis in
Israel require the prospective convert to
"spit on the Crucifix or before a Church" to
prove their allegiance to Judaism.
The Orthodox Right's obsession with the
Hebraic authenticity of one's antecedents
has now been wedded to computer technology. Operating out of a three-story building
in Brooklyn, New York, Rabbi Naftali Halberstam, assisted by six researchers, operates the World Jewish Geneological Organization (Yochsin Institute), designed to trace
the lineage of individual Jews. At present, his
computer database contains the names and
family histories of about 100,000 Jews. The
rabbi, a prominent Hassidic leader who
claims to have-traced his own lineage back
to King David, believes there willbe a more
pressing need for ancestral investigation in
light of the Reform decision to accept as
Jews children born of a non-Jewish mother
married to a Jewish father.
"With the sophisticated research tools
made available by our system," says Robert
Katz, manager of the J.G.O., "it is now possible to trace back family histories to Adam,
the first man."27
In short, all non-Jews in Orthodox law
remain strangers forever, with inferior status, until they are converted in accordance
with the rigorous and, some would argue,
demeaning criteria of the Halacha (e.g.,
immersion of a naked female convert in front
of three rabbis). * In Israel, non-Jews who
abide by the seven "Noachide commandments" (i.e., establish courts of justice and
forswear idolatry, murder, stealing, incest,
blasphemy, and the eating of flesh torn from
a living animal) receive the status of Ger
Toshav (resident alien) and are allowed to
live under conditions of accepted inferiority
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Vladimir Milovidov
logical ideas of early Christians were repeat. edly revived in periods of major social conflicts and served as a kind of ideological
banner in the struggle waged by peasants
and artisans against lay and clerical feudal
lords. Each time new "signs" were discovered to prove the coming of "the last times,"
"the end of the world," the "exact" dates of
the advent of Antichrist and "the second
coming" ofJesus Christ.
Believers in Western Europe predicted
"the end of the world" in the year 1000, at the
start of the Crusades, and during epidemics
and other mass disasters. In Russia, the
"end of the world" was anticipated in 1669
and 1702. Many Russians at the end of the
seventeenth century and the beginning of
the eighteenth century believed that Emperor Peter the Great was Antichrist incarnate.
Modern history saw the appearance of
numerous religious organizations which
embraced the dogma about "the end of the
world" as their main doctrine. To these
belong, for example, the Adventist sects and
Jehovah's Witnesses, or the Jehovists. The
Adventist sect was set up by American
farmers in the 1830s. Its founder, William
Miller, predicted the "Second Coming"
between March 21, 1843, and March 21,
1844. When his prophecy did not materialize, he set a new date: October 22, 1844.
That prediction also proved wrong. The
Adventists have never again set a date for
the "Second Coming" but have continued to
urge their fellow-worshippers to be on the
alert and anticipate the "miracle" any time.
In the 1870s a group broke away from the
Adventists and adopted the name Jehovah's
Witnesses. The new movement was founded
by Charles Taze Russell. The Witnesses
believe that the history of the world is a
history of Jehovah's struggle against Satan,
who rebelled against him. They claim that in
1914 Satan was expelled from heaven and
that he hid on Earth. Christ followed him
invisibly to prepare his ultimate destruction.
The Witnesses predict a great battle (Armageddon) between the forces of Jehovah
God and those of Satan, which willresult in
the death of all people except the righteous.
It is highly significant from the point of view
of the political orientation of the movement
that the Witnesses' leaders associate Armageddon with a third world war in which all
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freshman philosophy class goes
through it. There is a tree. You see it.
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You feel it. You smell it. You can taste its
leaves or its bark. You can hear the leaves
rustle. Through all of your senses you receive stimuli. Your brain puts it all together
and registers "tree." But can you really
know what a tree is? What does the tree
mean to itself? Under the external phenomenon lies what? What is the "essence"
of a tree? The argument is: Every sensation
of the five senses is a perception within
ourselves and from this we infer an external
object without - the tree. There is such a
great difference between the sensible and
the external object that we can never "know"
that external object. A relativist then says
that the tree has no objective existence at
all, but consists entirely of the conscious
state of the perceiver. That some phenomenal object has caused the sensation perceived is totally ignored.
Protagoras (B.C. 485-410), a Greek philosopher, in the same sense as agnosticism held
that knowledge is individual and momentary
opinion only. The "tree" quarrel has, thus,
been around for a minimum of 2,300 years.
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sions that things produce upon us. Experience, he held, shows that there is no true
impression. He also assailed the doctrine of
final cause and of goodness of a divine,
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superintending providence. His attitude toward god was that nothing could be asserted
with certainty in regard to god. The philosophy by which one should guide one's life
then became a command for wise men to
practice suspension of judgment since knowledge was impossible.
Sextus Empiricus (B.C. circa 2(0), a physician, was the greatest of the later Greek
skeptics. He questioned even the possibilities of mathematical demonstrations. As to
physical science, he agreed with Plato that
the whole world of sense was mere opinion.
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The Agnostic one who asserts ... that there are limits
to the sphere of human intelligence. He asserts further ...
that those limits are such as to exclude at least what Lewes
[George Henry Lewes (1817-1878) British philosopher]
called "metempirics" knowledge. But he goes further, and
asserts, in opposition to theologians, that theology lies
within this forbidden sphere ... The Gnostic holds that our
reason can, in some sense, transcend the narrow limits of
experience. He holds that we can attain truths not capable
of verification, and not needing verification, by actual experiment or observation.
Sir Leslie Stephen
An Agnostic's Apology and Other
Essays
It [agnosticism] means, in its finest sense, a courageous envisaging of the awful problems of life and death,
and an admission of their total insolubility. It might almost, in
particular temperaments and personalities, be said to have
become a new religion by itself ...
Edgar Fawcett
Agnosticism and Other Essays
that man cannot know the truth about God and immortality,
and must leave the issue open.
The great majority of Agnostics today [1948] mean by
that term that they have examined the arguments for the
existence of God and rejected them. That the Agnostic
"leaves the question open," while the Atheist ... does not, is
a myth of the apologists . . . Agnostics and Atheists now
usually mean the same thing - that they are without belief
in God ...
Joseph McCabe
Rationalist Encyclopedia
Kai Nielsen
"Agnosticism"
Dictionary of The History of Ideas
G.W. Foote
Freethinker, July 7, 1885
G. G. Greenwood
The Faith of An Agnostic
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the phenomenal world. Kant, therefore, reaffirmed idealism and laid the premise for the
"unknowability" of any god concepts. The
proof for religion, removed from the area of
the new scientific reason, was promoted to
transcendent reason.
David Hume (1711-1776), in Scotland,
was taking the same course. He simply
denied the existence of matter but added
that mind also is an abstraction, a mere
name for a sequence of perceptions. He
could thus only affirm complete skepticism.
There was, he found, no rational evidence
for either god or immortality. His basic
theory was that the mind cannot reach
realities beyond the phenomena of sense.
Hence, he denied miracles. But he characterized himself as an academic skeptic and
not a Pyrrhonian.
Thomas Reid (1710-1796), a Scot
philosopher, repulsed by Hume and
his skeptical conclusions, rejected the
concept that all the objects of one's
knowledge were simply ideas in one's
own mind. He reasserted the independent existence of matter and its
immediate presence to one's mind.
He asserted that we know the properties but not the "essence" of things.
From this he posited what he designated as natural realism or natural
dualism. His three basic principles
were:
1) "All" human "knowledge is
relative."
2) "To think is to condition."
All human thinking is conditioned.
3) Notions of the "Infinite"
and the "Absolute" are negations of thought.
The Unconditioned
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the external world. Thus he accepted Reid's was no such thing as infinite time and infinite
doctrine of dualistic natural realism.
space. He followed Hamilton closely on this.
He could not know the Unknowable or
We cannot, he thought, experience the
condition the Unconditioned. But, he wentinfinite in part, for the infinite cannot be
further, the cognizable existence of god
divided into parts. It is an absolute unity.
being undemonstrable, there was no moral
What we can know is phenomena only or dutiful obligation on man to recognize his and that through experience and reason.
being and make him the object of his worThere were, he thought, two methods of
ship. He, himself, however, felt an inherited
arriving at knowledge of god. One was
personal conviction.
subjective and psychological, based on
Yet, since he was partially disabled by knowledge of the mental faculties of man,
paralysis from 1845 forward, he lectured
and the other was objective and metaphyfrom a chair - over which a suggestive
sical, based on the knowledge of the nature
motto was inscribed:
of god. He was certain that by either method
one could not attain knowledge of the Infinite
and the Absolute, for neither had distincOn earth there is nothing great but
tions or determinants. As he posited his view
man;
that god was unknowable, however, he
In man there is nothing great but
came under more and more attack. Subsemind.
It was from this background heritage that Mansel took. Hamilton was
for many years a most prominent
figure in English philosophy and Mansel was considered by many to be his
foremost disciple. He relied on Aristotle, on Kant, and on Hamilton. Any
attempt to know god he found to end
in contradictions. One cannot attest
to both a finite and an infinite world.
This is an antinomy - a contradiction
between two principles each taken to
be true. Since the brain is compelled
to think in specific ways which it
cannot transgress (its own laws), no
matter what the issue with which it
deals, it is constrained in its function.
Theism, Pantheism, Atheism
John Toland (1670-1722)had introduced the concept of pantheism to
England in 1705, later enlarging on his
ideas with his work Pantheisticon in
1720. Pantheism held that god is the
universe and the universe is god.
Mansel wanted to refute both the
pantheist and the Atheist. He floundered
with the idea of the infinite. He saw the theist
as holding that there could be co-existence
of the finite and the infinite; the pantheist
denying the real existence of the finite; the
Atheist denying the real existence of the
infinite. Reason, he felt, could not justify the
theistic position. There was no hope of "the
cognitive" conceiving of "a first phenomenon" or embracing at one and the same time
both the finite and the infinite. He could not
accept the alternative of pantheism, for an
infinite god would destroy the "personal"
god of Christianity. He could not accept
Atheism since it was a negation of his
personal belief system. His special problem
with the ideas of the "Infinite" and the
"Absolute" led him to conclude that they
were meaningless words. All thought is
finite, limited, and conditioned; hence there
Thomas Reid
quent editions of his book were forced to call
upon authorities to support him, all of whom
were cited in the preface. His most urgent
appeal was to acceptance of god ideas by
faith and not by reason, and he pointed out
that Tertullian, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Cyprian, Chrysostom, Augustine, Aquinas, and other Christian fathers had sustained this position. *
He needed a scapegoat for his inability to
prove god; he found this in the human mind.
He pointed out that the contradictions into
which theology falls when attempting to
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agnostic or his subsequent public jousts in
the literary and theological field of battle
over that coinage.
Huxley's Evolution
In matters religious, Huxley evolved slowly if at all.
He clung to a friendship with a clergyman,
Charles Kingsley, and on September 23,
1860, at the age of thirty-five, wrote to him in
these words:
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I neither affirm nor deny the immortality of man. I see no reason for
believing it, but, on the other hand, I
have no means of disproving it. I have
no a priori objections to the doctrine.
No man who has to deal daily and
hourly with nature can trouble himself
about a priori difficulties. Give me
such evidence as would justify me in
believing in anything else, and I will
believe that. Why should I not?
And again, to the same correspondent
wrote on May 5, 1883:
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Huxley on Religion
The next year, 1870, he was elected
President of the newly-constituted London
School Board, where he remained for two
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The Equivocator
immorality were set forth in his Christianity
and Agnosticism - A Controversy:
agnosticism is not properly described as a "negative creed," nor
indeed as a creed of any kind, except
insofar as it expresses absolute faith in
the validity of a principle which is as
much ethical as intellectual. This
principle may be stated in various
ways, but they all amount to this: that
it is wrong for a man to say that he is
certain of the objective truth of any
proposition unless he can produce
evidence which logically justifies that
certainty. This is what agnosticism
asserts; and, in my opinion, it is all that
is essential to agnosticism. That which
agnostics deny and repudiate as
immoral is the contrary doctrine, that
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majority. Agnosticism, thus, is a way of solving, by passing over, the ultimate problems
of thought.
Soon the term was used to cover any and
every variety of skepticism or cowardice.
We are at that point today in the United
States.
The most reasonable thing to do is to opt
for Atheism, particularly when we realize
that we do not need any religion to make
sense of our lives or to buttress morality.
In respect to the doctrines of Christianity:
predestination; original sin; the innate depravity of man; the evil fate of the greater
part of the race; the primacy of Satan in this
world; the essential vileness of matter; a
malevolent Demiurgus subordinate to a benevolent Almighty; a future lifeof rewards or
punishments; immortality of the soul; the
benevolence of a kindly watching,
loving, caring god - to name those
listed by Huxley - only the theist
would claim an agnosticism to anyone
or all of them. It is obvious to any
sociologist that they are a set of fears
with which people, individually, must
cope, while they are manipulated by
power groups.
Later writers construed agnosticism so that it was identified with
philosophical skepticism and that, as
such, it allowed for their being "theistic agnostics" and "Christian agnostics."
The kiss of death was given to
agnosticism most caustically by H. L.
Mencken, who put it briefly: "The
most satisfying and ecstatic faith is
almost purely agnostic. It trusts absolutely without professing to know at
all."
Agnosticism and The Trees
Immanuel Kant
- and opposed to materialism.
Robert Bostrom put it nicely in 1969:
One who is agnostic usually finds
himself saying something like the
following:"I don't personally believe in
god, but I see that a great many other
people do. Where there is a difference
of opinion we must conclude that the
issue is in doubt - therefore, I must
hold that the question of existence of
god is in doubt; that none of us know
for sure whether or not god exists."
Fear of The Majority
There is an obvious fear of majoritarian
viewpoints in the rationale. Because of the
great number of believers, if the issue can
said to be in doubt, abstain: Don't irritate the
Modern American Atheism's message is more wholesome and lifecelebrating. Whereas some life philosophies cannot see the forest for the trees,
agnosticism cannot even see the trees.
American Atheism assures you that you
may trust your senses and your reason. The
empirical approach to lifewillgive you all the
information you need to live a rich, filled,life.
Agnosticism, as it is known today, is very
closely related to the religious doctrine that
the ways of god are unfathomable, that
human reason is fallible, and that man
requires a different, non-scientific path to
the "truth." Agnostic philosophers are
always allies of the church. The reason for
this is clear - agnosticism puts forward the
false notion that the world in which we live is
unknowable, and this undermines science
and reinforces theology. It inclines man to
faith, inducing him to trust religious doctrines.
An Atheist is simply a person who is free
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So we are either Atheistic or agnostic. We admit that we cannot prove there
is no god, but claim that we don't have to disprove what there is no credible
evidence for. Neither do we feel the need to disprove the existence of fairies. It
is for those who believe in a god to explain the proposition fully and in testable
form, and to produce better than ancient books and "religious experience"
which can be just neural activity.
Jim Woolnough
"Presenting Humanism in the Media"
New Zealand Humanist, Winter 1985
The definition given by Spencer to Agnosticism cannot be accepted by
science. "The power which the universe manifests to us is utterly inscrutable."
Science will not affirm that anything is inscrutable. To do so is suicidal. Science
will never give up the eternal struggle to know. To know what - a part of
things? No, but all things. That is the goal, and nothing else will satisfy the scientific mind. It is theology that talks of the "inscrutable," but not science. Theology
puts up the bars of ignorance, but not a true philosophy. Philosophy nor Freethought ever says: "Thus far thou go and no farther."
Samuel P. Putnam
400 Years of Freethought
The most satisfying and ecstatic faith is almost purely agnostic. It trusts absolutely without professing to know at all.
H. L. Mencken
A Book of Calumny
One who is agnostic usually finds himself saying something like the following:
"I don't personally believe in god, but 1see that a great many other people do.
Where there is a difference of opinion we must conclude that the issue is in
doubt - therefore, 1must hold that the question of existence of god is in doubt;
that none of us know for sure whether or not god exists or not." An agnostic
position of this type is comfortable because it does not unduly irritate the majority. It is much easier to say "I don't know" than "Your position is one of rank
superstition." This position is no position at all. This type of "agnostic" reminds
us more of the Pharisee in the parable than anyone else.
Robert N. Bostrom
"Agnostic Belief Systems and the Problem of Knowledge"
Religious Humanism, Winter 1969
The Agnostic is an Atheist; the Atheist, an Agnostic. The Agnostic says Ido
not know, but 1 do not believe there is any God. The Atheist says the same. The
orthodox Christian says he knows there is a God; but we know that he does not
know; he simply believes; he cannot know. And the Atheist cannot know that
God does not exist.
Robert G. Ingersoll
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word Atheist has been so long covered with all manner of ignorant
calumny that it is expedient to use a
new term which though in some
respects faulty, has a fair start, and
will in time have a recognised meaning. The case, so stated, is reasonable;
but there is the per contra that whatever the motive with which the name
is used, it is now tacked to half a dozen
conflicting forms of doctrine, varying
loosely between Theism and Pantheism. The name of Atheist escapes that
drawback. Its unpopularity has saved
it from half-hearted and half-minded
patronage.
So that, on the best showing, we are to
take "agnostic" on the professed ground
that it is more exact than "Atheism," but on
the real ground that it is less unpopular,
waiting meanwhile for the time when it shall
have become more exact than it is by
becoming accepted in the same sense as the
Atheism that has previously been rejected.
Courage and straightforwardness saves a
lot of trouble.
God - A Meaningless Word
. tion. If we ask the agnostic whether he suspends judgment concerning the existence of
the gods of any savage peoples, the reply is
in the negative. If we put the same question
concerning the god of the Bible, or of the
Mohammedan, or of any other of the world's
theologies we receive the same answer.
There is nothing here to suspend judgment
about, the characters and qualities of the
gods being such that there admits of no
doubt as to their imaginary character. Or ifit
is said that the agnostic, while dismissing the
gods of the various theologies, savage and
civilized, as being impossible, suspends
judgment as to the existence of a "supreme
mind," or of a "creative intelligence," the
reply is that one cannot suspend judgment
as to the possible existence of an inconceivability. For "mind" must be mind, as we
know it. And it is a downright absurdity to
speak of the possible existence of a "mind"
while divesting it of all the qualities that characterise mind as we know it. Really between
the statement that A does not exist, and the
affirmation that A does exist, but differs in
every conceivable particular from all known
A's there is no difference whatever. We are
denying its existence in the very act of affirming it.
Further, we quite agree with Mr. F. C. S.
Schiller (Riddles of the Sphinx, pp. 17-19)
that in practice such suspense of judgment is
impossible. We suspend our judgment as to
whether we shall die tomorrow or at some
indefinite future date, and for that reason we
make our arrangements in view of either
contingency. We suspend judgment as to
the honesty of an employee, and our attitude
towards him is governed by that fact. And so
with the question of a god. In one way or
another we are bound to indicate our judgment on the subject. We must act either as
though we believe in the possibility or in the
impossibility of "divine" interference. If the
mental hesitancy of the respectable agnostic
were accompanied by a corresponding timidity in action life would be impossible.
Reverential Agnosticism
A less common plea on behalf of agnosticism, but one on which a word must be said,
is that the agnostic attitude is more "reverential" than that of Atheism. But why in the
name of all that is reasonable should one
profess reverence towards something of
which one knows nothing? Reverence, to be
intelligible, must be directed towards an
intelligent object, and we must have grounds
for believing it to be worthy of reverence.
Reverence towards our fellow creatures is a
reasonable enough sentiment, but what is.
there reasonable in an expression of reverence towards something that can only be
thought of - and even this is unwarranted
- as a force? The truth is that this expression of reverence is no.more than the flicker-
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ence towards the "Unknowable" is fundamentally upon all fours with the religious
feelings of the ordinary believer. Worshipping the Unknowable is more ridiculous
than worshipping Huxley's "wilderness of
apes." The apes might take some intelligent
interest in the antics of their devotees; but to
print our hypostatized ignorance in capital
letters and then profess a feeling of veneration for it is as ridiculous a proceeding as the
world has seen. After all, an absurdity is
never quite so grotesque as when it is
tricked out in scientific phrases and paraded
as the outcome of profound philosophic
thinking. (4) The only agnosticism that
seems capable of justifying itself is an agnosticism that is indistinguishable from Atheism. To again cite Professor Flint, Atheist
"means one who does not believe in god,
and it means neither more nor less." The
agnostic is also one who is without belief in a
god, every argument he uses to justify his
position is and has been used as a justification OfAtheism. Atheist is really "a thoroughly honest, unambiguous term," it admits of
no paltering and of no evasion, and the need
of the world, now as ever, is for clear-cut
issues and unambiguousspeech,
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THE PROSPECT OF
PHYSICAL IMMORTALITY
PART I: WHY DIE?
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It Ain't Necessarily So
I believe the answers to all these questions
is an emphatic "No!" We no longer need to
die. Mortality is not an a priori necessity.
Biology should enable us to become essentially immortal. With reasonable luck, I think
this should be possible by the year 2000.
Before attempting to justify this claim, I
would note that for as long as our ancestors
have been recognizable members of the
species Homo sapiens, they have feared
death. Only the noblest of our kind have
failed to cower and quail when touched by
the shadow that precedes the "Great Dark."
While still they lived in caves, men feared to
travel in the "Valley of the Shadow." And
men and women created gods and goddesses in their own images - soothing fictions to help them face the fact of their
mortality.
Like man himself, his religions have come
and gone, have lived and died. Though none
of them have ever taken one successful step
toward the actual conquest of death (indeed,
almost all religions have been a major obstacle in the path of those who might have done
so), most religions have fed upon man's fear.
Priests have waxed fat in direct proportion
as they have developed the ability to fool
men into believing that they do in fact hold
magic powers over death.
For millennia man's superstitions have
sold him an ersatz immortality and prevented him from seeking out the real one. It
is only in the last century - which has seen
the growth of science into a force great
enough to expose this inventive fiction for
the first time - that man has been able,
systematically, to investigate the differences
between life and death. And only in the last
few decades have we found the courage to
seek a cure for dying.
In trying to justify my hope that essential
immortality should be achievable by the year
2000, I must declare the subject of "accidental" death to be beyond the scope of my
discussion. A person run over by a steamroller in the year 2000 willbe just as dead as
the one run over in 1985. I shall, therefore,
limit my discussion to the kind of death conceived to be the terminus of old age.
"Old age is itself a sickness," said the
Roman poet Terence, who flourished in the
second century B.C. "Old age is itself a sickness," echo the majority of modern biologists. No longer believing that sickness
comes either from god or the devil, biologists now view aging and death as just
another disease in need of cure - just like
smallpox, cholera, or cancer.
Self-Destruct
Genes
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middle-class minds of her day is a masterpiece of scientific psychology when that discipline had not really found itself at the time.
In her letters she notes,
There is really no moral "sanction"
but this inward impulse. The will of
god is the same thing as the will of
other men, compelling us to work and
avoid what they have seen to be harmful to social existence. Disjoined from
any perceived good, the Divine willis
simply so much as we have ascertained of the facts of existence which
compel obedience at our peril. Any
other notion comes from the supposition of arbitrary revelation.
In her novels she demonstrated unceasingly that morality is wholly the construction
GEORGE ELIOT
bach's basic contention was that the Christian idea of man, far from liberating man,
actually succeeded in enslaving him to an
illusory absolute. Bruno Bauer and Karl
Marx are often said to have been disciples.
In 1855 she translated Spinoza's Ethics.
It was after this that her first fiction
appeared. She was never orthodox in religion after her break. She abandoned with a
fierce determination every creed, and although she passed, later, through various
phases, she remained incessantly a rationalist in matters of faith and in all other matters. She did write admirably about religion
and about religious persons. She knew the
strength of religious motivation from her
father and the ability to understand it and
handle it from her losing her relationship
with him. Her exposition of the upper-and
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Worth, Des Moines, Hollywood, and Chicago. To help these outreach workshops,
AIPAC has full-time staff located in New
York, New Jersey, and California. In addition, activists and one thousand "Jewish
leaders" in our nation are bombarded with a
steady stream of position papers, monographs, and other publications. Among
these is an "enemies list." Every three
months a 132-member executive committee
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Dine is acknowledged to be among the
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capitol.
During the 1982 Congressional elections
alone, three hundred candidates came to
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the same year the staff of AIPAC filled nine
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Israel and to raise funds. In April, 1982,
alone, 1,500 young Jews were taken on a
one-week tour of Israel. But governors,
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given expense-paid tours. Over half of the
sitting U.S. Congress have made trips to
Israel also, on "official business," paid for by
the U.S. government.
Although only twelve states have a Jewish
population of at least three percent*, politicians in all states are monitored.
In addition to AIPAC, seventy-five PACs
focus on support for Israel. These contributed $1.8 million to 268 election campaigns
during 1981-82,and $4.25 millionin 1984.It is
shocking to read that Lowell Weicker (RCT) received $42,075; Albert Gore (D-TN)
received $57,450; and James B. Hunt (RNC) received $130,350.
What happens if one dissents from proIsrael legislation? The voices are stilled by
intimidation as well as harassment. Opposition challenging their seats in Congress is
mounted and pressures to stop funding and
endorsements of them quickly appear.
One's senses stagger under the denouements offered in the book. With ten of the
thirty-seven members of the Foreign Affairs
Committee being Jews, why is such overkill
necessary? Who gains from it all? What does
this mean to Israel? It is now receiving grants
"with no repayment" of over $2 billion a year
from the United States.
In 1960, John F. Kennedy was very
troubled after a dinner with a small group of
wealthy and prominent Jews in New York.
They offered to help "significantly" his financially troubled campaign ifKennedy, as president, "would allow them to set the course of
Middle East policy over the next four years."
The story of pressures upon the Oval
Office constitute an entire chapter in the
book. The influence is everywhere - in the
Defense Department, in the State Department. And the author relentlessly reveals
and documents it.
He spends another entire chapter also on
the case of the Israeli assault against the
U.S.S. Liberty on June 8, 1%7, and the
incredible coverup of it.
Another chapter documents the efforts
toward intimidation of both campus publications and speakers in respect to issues
involving Israel and Zionism. And, these are
not minor campuses but instead some of the
most prestigious in the nation.
The strange marriage of the Falwellian
fundamentalists and the Zionists is also
explored. For example, in November, 1980,
Jerry Falwell was awarded a medal in recognition of his steadfast support of Israel. The
award came at a New York dinner marking
the hundredth anniversary of the birth of
Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky - and
was made at the behest of Prime Minister
Begin! Meanwhile, unsuspecting "mainline"
Protestant ministers have found themselves
in hot water for delivering sermons with
even' a modicum of criticism of Israel. Examples are given.
When all is said and reviewed, the author
points out that one powerful group in the
United States has succeeded in inhibiting
free expression on one topic - Israel- and
from that inhibition has obtained fundings
for Israeli policies which are inimicable to the
general welfare of the United States. He calls
upon all our citizens to assist in stopping the
activities which threaten to make the United
States a satellite of Israel and her interests.
"In short, when a lobby stifles free speech
nationally on one controversial topic - the
Middle East - all free speech is threatened."
And Atheists know about that.
This book is highly recommended. One
cannot view the international political scene
without being privy to the machinations in
the United States which cause decisions in
the Middle East.
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K, Atheism might be a logical posi- but what has Atheism ever
done for humanity? Where are the Atheist
hospitals, orphanages, old age homes, charities?" How often I have heard that question
from acquaintances!
And how often I stumbled in reply. "Well,
uh ... but what about the horrible things that
religion has done to humanity? The Inquisition. The sexual discrimination. The religious prejudice," I would answer. I knew it
was a correct reply, but it always seemed so
weak, so limp. 1always felt a bit guilty when
theistic friends mentioned the various charities their favorite sects sponsored.
Then one day, I went to visit a friend in a
hospital after her surgery. A faithful Roman
Catholic, she had never thought to go to any
place but a Roman Catholic institution.
What would she do ifshe didn't have a priest
on call?
As the elevator doors opened on her floor,
a huge sign faced me: "We treat every
patient as though he were Jesus Christ." An
agonized face of Jesus accompanied the
headline as well as some smaller print. Not
really liking hospitals, wishing to visit my
friend and escape, I hurried on to her room
without reading the fine print. But the words
impressed themselves on me, and I thought
about them at some length later on.
The sign implied that the hospital staff
treated patients nicely because of Jesus. It
sounded a bit like the Russian story in which
a cobbler, believing that Jesus would visit
him, spends an anxious day and almost goes
to bed a bit disappointed. But just before he
goes to bed, Jesus visits to tell him that he
came earlier in the form of a beggar. I whimsically wondered ifall the nuns in the hospital
went to bed hoping that a voice would tell
them that the gallbladder in 302 had really
been Mary's first-born.
I also remembered all the various morals
theists put into practice because their god
"says so" - not because of any particular
ethical system. I - at first - idly wondered
what would happen to the patients of these
people if there were no Jesus Christ. Would
they beat them? Or what would happen if
they thought that their god asked for them
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Missouri
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I have come across a word in the dictionary whose definition is "the branch of
theology concerned with the defense or
proof of Christianity." The word is apologetics.
As an Atheist, Ifind the connotations both
amusing and appropriate.
Bart Aikens
Oregon
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I have read two issues of American Atheist, and a general theme in both (but particularly the June, 1985, issue) is the denigration
of capitalism as antithetical to the goals of
secular humanism. A great deal is said about
the necessity for individual freedom and
rational thought, but these two very important aspects of the Atheist world view are
not consistent with the disparagement of
capitalism made by many of your writers.
Capitalism as an economic system has
absolutely nothing to say about religion. It is
equally possible to believe in god or not and
still be a capitalist. Anyone who claims that
capitalism is a reflection of Judeo-Christian
religious morality, or that the various religious sects prevalent in the U.S. promote
true capitalism as an extension of their religious world view is talking nonsense. Again,
capitalism as a praxeological concept is neutral with regard to religion, although I will
admit that the word capitalism is anything
but neutral.
Capitalism is not neutral with regard to
individual freedom and rational thought.
Under the praxeological system of capitalism, individual freedom and rational thought
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