FG is Charlie - June/July 2015

FRIENDS GAZETTE
Your articles look at moral reasons for being
vegetarian or vegan which is a very
interesting mix and unique . . .
Tim Barford - founder VegFestUK

JUNE/JULY 2015 ISSN 2053-4426

WHAT THE FUR?

CELEBRITIES who find their veganism
paraded through the pages of showbiz
gossip mags should think more deeply

London and Tavel - e-mail: friendsgazette@gmail.com - Web: scribd.com

ADOPT A
VEGGIE DOG

about how they come across, a young

vegan entrepreneur has said.

A VEGGIE dog adoption agency is appealing for

Laura Edwards' comments come as

help so it can continue its unique life-saving

A-list rock star Beyonce was recently

work.

spotted wearing fur on a visit to Native

Adoptaveggie dog website was set up two years

Foods, a vegan restaurant in Los

ago by David Dudley a strict lacto-vegetarian

Angeles (below).

who lives in southern Spain.

Both she and her partner Jay Z are

Now he is looking to home the animals with dog

with a mega-healthy, fully-vegetarian diet."

recently converted vegans.

lovers who won't need to compromise their

And David, a one-time London resident and

Said Laura: I dont think she can really

principles when it comes to feeding their pets.

strict lacto-veggie since the late 60s, continued:

be called vegan if she is wearing fur.

Many of the dogs have been rescued from

"Here in Spain, one often comes across

certain death as they desperately try and find

abandoned animals that require rescuing.

their way back home on busy and deadly

"It's happened to me a number of times in the

motorways or queue up to be put down by

four years I've been here.

Spanish police.

"Sometimes they are pregnant, with obvious

David told FG: "A couple of years back I began a

consequences.

website for adoption purposes. I currently have

"It's impossible to resist helping a dog that is on

29 dogs in my charge and, as you can imagine,

its last legs, or a dog [that has been dumped]

the costs of caring for them are astronomical.

attempting to reach its previous domicile by

"Naturally, all the dogs here in my care are fed

heading off down a motorway.

cont p. 3

"If collected by the police, they are

Jessica Knoblauch

interned for a fortnight (and sometimes

less) before being put down, and if
they don't get the correct restorative
therapy (my treatments are all herbal)
they die anyway."
Vegetarian dogs are not an unknown
phenomenon despite what you might
think. Internet vet Dr Jennifer Coates
says: "The canine body has the ability
to transform certain amino acids, the
continued on page 7

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SAD, SAD, SAD

A FORMER resident of Charleston speaks of
her deep sorrow at the latest US massacre
some point, we as a country will have to
reckon with the fact that this type of
mass violence does not happen in other
advanced countries.
And an argument continues to rage
about the bizarre attachment many
southerners seem to have for the
Confederate flag, seen by some to be a
symbol of white supremacy.
Speaking while on holiday in the south

Makes about 6 pints (3.5 litres)

25 heads of elderflower (rinsed lightly

in cold water)

3 pints (1.7 litres) water

of France, Mary Wyche Lesesne (left)

said: I lived in Charleston many years

4 oranges

ago in 1965-69 when my husband was

1 lemon

A FORMER resident of Charleston has

in medical school. It was in the time

spoken exclusively to Friends Gazette

when we were just beginning to

of her feelings about the disgraceful

desegregate, there was a lot of tension

tragedy which hit the southern US town

between blacks and whites.

4 lbs (2 kg) sugar

this month.

Mary, who studied at Georgia State

(plenty of clean bottles!)

In a shooting spree which has horrified

University which took its first African-

the world, nine members of the

American student in 1962, continued:

Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal

In Charleston they have always lived

Church in Charleston, South Carolina

very close together, in the same

(below) were gunned down as they

neighbourhoods, almost. So over the

prayed.

years segregation went away and

The massacre happened just after a

integration became more.

bible study session with the gunman

It was a good place. It seemed like it

waiting at the back of the church for the

was on an unique level of caring.

session to end before he callously

This makes the church killing to me

blasted the place.

even more appalling. It is disgraceful. [I

Dylann Roof, 21, an out white

am] sad, sad, sad.

supremacist, has been charged.

I just wish so much that the proliferation

Rosemary adds: Beware citric acid is NOT

The incident prompted US president,

of guns, the craziness of people that

vitamin C . Boots and Holland & Barrett do NOT

Barack Obama, to re-visit the troubled

want to have white power [is stopped].

stock it. Lakeland and Superdrug do and an

question of guns in America and say: at

Its sad for us.

independent health store called Revital.

2 fl oz (56.8 ml) citric acid (from a

pharmacy or try Lakeland)

Place rinsed flower heads in a large bowl or

clean bucket. Slice and cut up oranges and
lemon and add. Boil the water, allow to cool a
few minutes, then add to the bowl. Add sugar
and citric acid and stir until dissolved. Cover top
of bowl with a clean tea towel and leave to stand
for 24 hours. Strain and bottle. Keep in fridge
and use within two months (or freeze some).
Dilute to taste as you would Ribena or orange
squash. Kids (and adults) enjoy sucking the leftover pieces of fruit.

Elderflower heads

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special report by
Stephen Ward

PRISONER CONCERN

Sikh freedom supporter gets totally confidential hospital visit from Indian guru
WHAT THE FUR? from page 1

DEEP CONCERN for Sikh political prisoners and

Khalsa has been on hunger strike since January

the health of a prominent supporter of Sikh

seeking the permanent release of certain Sikh

Being vegan is a whole

freedom were among the reasons for Radha

political prisoners who have completed their

lifestyle. [I would say to her] if you

Soami sect leader Gurinder Singh Dhillons visit

mandatory jail terms, the Indian press reported.

think doing it for your diet is a great

to a hospital in the Indian city of Chandigarh this

Mann told journalists Dhillon had expressed

thing how about thinking about doing it

month.

deep concern over [the] issue of Sikh political

for the environment.

The northwest region of India known as the

prisoners who have been kept behind bars for

Laura, 25 and her friend Kylie

Punjab has been at the centre of a separatist

decades.

Fackrell, 27 are about to launch into

movement for years. This movement has grown

Mann himself has been arrested or detained 30

what could be said to be the biggest

stronger as Indian Hindu nationalists have swept

times but never convicted. He was charged with

challenge of their lives.

to power in Delhi.

conspiracy to assassinate prime minister Indira

For between them the pair have

Dhillon asked after the health of Simran Singh

Ghandi but all charges were dropped. She was

created the UKs first and so far only

Mann who is being treated at the PGI hospital for

gunned down by two of her Sikh guards in

vegan summer camp for teens.

a heart condition.

October, 1984. She was on her way to be

The camp starts on August 23rd to 28th

According to Indian press reports: The cult head

interviewed by late British actor Peter Ustinov

in the Goblin Combe Environmental

enquired about [the] health condition of the pro-

when Satwant Singh and Beant Singh pumped

Centre, north Somerset, just outside

freedom Sikh politician. The meeting which lasted

more than 30 rounds into her stomach (see

Bristol.

around 20 minutes, was held in [the] heart care

artists impression above).

For our exclusive interview of the

centre of [the] PGI where Mann [has been] under

Mann was elected to the Indian Parliament by an

month with Laura turn to page 12.

treatment for two weeks. The meeting was kept

overwhelming mandate even though he was in

totally confidential and only [a] few senior doctors

prison. He was unconditionally released in 1989

were [informed] in this regard.

in the interests of the state.

Dhillons visit also coincided with the transfer to

Dhillons, strictly lacto-vegetarian, Radha Soami

the same hospital of Bapu Surat Singh Khalsa

Beas group has millions of followers, mostly low-

under police guard from the upstate town of

caste (Dalit) Sikhs in the Punjab as well as many

Ludhiana which generated feverish activity in the

thousands of devotees abroad including the

streets of sector 12 near the university.

Americas, South Africa, Australia and Europe.

Off the wall - at Native Foods, LA

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EAT VEGGIE GET STRONG

Some vegetarian/vegan athletes:
Prince Fielder baseball
Venus Williams tennis
Joe Namath American
football
Patrik Baboumian weightlifting (left)

Fred Dryer American football

Dave Scott Iron man world
championships
Carl Lewis track and field
Murray Rose swimming
Lizzie Armitstead - cycling
Bode Miller - skiing

WANNA be strong? Eat vegetables.

concludes: While the vegetarian group [of

Patrik Baboumian (above) known as

The wisdom of eating meat is being

bicyclists] had slightly lower oxygen levels

Germanys strongest man went vegetarian in

questioned by many these days, and the

during sub-maximal effort, results did not

2006 and vegan five years later because he

evidence that you dont have to kill animals to

demonstrate that a vegetarian diet decreases

wanted to help stop violence against animals.

keep fit is slowly bubbling to the surface.

exercise potential.

He recently told People for the Ethical

In an article for webmag Livestrong, Meredith

And on the sprinters; Athletes performing

Treatment of Animals (PETA) a movement

Crilly writes: If you're concerned about

sprint training followed a vegetarian or mixed

which not only represents vegetarians and

decreased athletic ability, research indicates

diet, and both groups saw the same

vegans: One day, I just thought, if you see a

that a vegetarian diet does not negatively

improvements in athletic performance.

bird with a broken leg, you really have the

affect your exercise performance, but has the

The bicycling study was carried out by the

urge to do something about it and help the

same result as following a meat-containing

Journal of the International Society of Sports

bird. Then, at the same time, you go to a

diet. Referring to two studies, one on

Nutrition and the second by European

restaurant and eat a chicken.

bicyclists and another on sprint runners she

Journal of Applied Physiology.

It doesnt make any sense.

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A QUESTION OF SECT

Think weve got it wrong or just want to sound off about something. Feel free! Write to friendsgazette@gmail.com

To the editor,
Why do you refer to RSSB as a Sikh sect. You know thats not true . . .
James Watson, London
Dear James,
Thanks for your email.
All reports in Friends' Gazette aim to be impartial, balanced and above all accurate in compliance with
the Editors' Code of Practice 2012.
When referring to RSSB FG has used a number of terms over the last three years.
In the article on page 12 of FG May 2015 "Bollywood star set to marry student" RSSB is referred to as
"the Sikh sect known as . . . " and later in the same article as "the group", "the group's" and "the sect".
In another article "I thought we were going to buy it" on page 3 of the same edition the RSSB group is
referred to throughout as "The Radha Soami Satsang group", "the group" twice, the "strictly lactoveggie group" an "Indian spiritual sect" and "the London group".
Remember that RSSB itself has posted a press cutting (above) on its website in which reference is
made to the "Radha Soami sect" see "Delhi police seek spiritual help . . . "
The Wikipedia definition of 'sect' is as follows: "A sect is a subgroup of a religious, political or
philosophical belief system, usually an offshoot of a larger religious group."
Was Jesus a Jew? No doubt about it.
So in the light of an un-precedented recent visit by RSSB leader Gurinder Singh to the Golden
Temple, the Sikh holy shrine in Amritsar; his controversial attendance at the marriage of the head of
Panthic Sewa Lehar, Baba Baljit Singh Dadu Sahib Wale; RSSB's close and extremely amicable links
with Alkali Dal, the Sikh 'synod'; the dress of the vast majority of adherents including the leader
himself, we think it's pretty obvious of which 'religion' or 'racial group' RSSB might be considered an
"off-shoot" i.e. the Sikh one and it therefore must be accurate to describe it as 'a Sikh sect'.
If you can think of another "larger religious group" RSSB could be an offshoot of in light of the cutting
on its own website please let me know. ED

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I love reading the Gazette, a real treat. Very sorry about the UK

For some reason it (FG February) made me think of Noam Chomsky.

elections. I had completely missed out that Cameron was back!

Probably because of the stress on the arms trade, which I wouldnt

Frances Ashley, Tavel, France

expect to see in one of the big broadsheets.

Thanks for sending me your news sheet. It has much to offer.

Your article about group meditation [in the same issue] made me

Please continue! Techno Demic, Spain

think of Sam Harris. He is committed to countering religious

Congratulations, dear Steve, on this lovely issue (FG May 2015) of

influence in the US, but he is also into meditation, which is unusual,

the Gazette including the Charlie piece and the picture of Avignon.

given the company he often finds himself in. Andre de Souza,

Nelcya Delanoe, Paris

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MASALA MAGGI IN HOT WATER

In the face of angry protests by enraged kids and reams of
bad press the food giant Nestls Indian arm, Nestl India,
has asked the Bombay High Court to review an order for Maggi
2-Minute Noodles to be pulled from store shelves.

The order came as Indian authorities found unacceptably

high levels of lead in the 100% veggie, masala flavoured,
noodles - a fast-food favourite at Indian dinner tables.

Nestl assures food standards watchdog Indian lead scare is an isolated incident
Food giant Nestl UK is working with public

The move has caused a stir in India leaving

ADOPT A VEGGIE DOG from p1

health officials in Britain to test for lead levels in

busy Indian housewives at a loss without one

building blocks or protein, into others,

its products after its Maggi Noodles were pulled

of their familys favourite fast foods.

meaning that dogs can get all the

from supermarket shelves in India.

A report in the Indian Express reads: The

amino acids they need while avoiding

The hugely popular masala flavour Maggi 2

allure of the two-minute noodles has been the

meat."

Minute Noodles was found to contain lead and

strongest for lower middle- and middle-class

People for the Ethical Treatment of

undeclared monosodium glutamate.

Indian women as they stormed into the urban

Animals (PETA) says: "Studies have

In an official statement the UK Foods Standards

labour force, working in factories,

shown that the ailments associated

Agency said this month:

supermarkets and offices in the

with meat consumption in humans,

The batch of noodles

mid-1980s.

such as allergies, cancer and kidney,

originally tested by the

For this category of women, who

heart and bone problems, also affect

authorities in India, which

almost single-handedly manage

many non-humans."

was found to contain lead,

their kitchens and tend to their

And environmental journalist Jessica

was not sold in the UK.

children while supplementing the

Knoblauch (p.1) says: "Owners who

Nestl UK have informed

family income by working outside

have put their dogs on a vegetarian

the home, packaged instant

diet say it has resulted in everything

us that they currently only

import masala flavor Maggi 2 Minute Noodles

noodles have eased the burden of grinding,

from longer life spans and shinier

from India.

prepping and cooking traditional Indian foods.

coats to decreased aggression."

Other flavour Maggi Noodles are not imported

Besides the convenience, the cost has been

David does not charge an adoption

by Nestl UK from India, but from

a draw. Instant noodles help busy working

fee, though transport to areas far

Nestl factories in other countries. Following the

mothers save time outside the kitchen too,

afield must be met by adopters.

incident in India, we have taken the decision to

with elaborate Indian meals consisting of

To find out how to give a veggie dog a

test for levels of lead in a selection of Maggi

grains and vegetables giving way to one pot

home or make a donation contact

Noodles as a precaution.

noodles meals.

David at adoptaveggiedog.com

UK FOOD WATCHDOG BOOSTS SAFETY WITH NEW APPOINTMENTS

FOOD SAFETY bosses have appointed a

is a microbiologist with experience in retail

professor with an international reputation in

product safety and quality management.

stomach bugs and a product quality expert at

Both will serve as new members on the UK Food

Sainsburys as official advisers.

Standards Agencys advisory committee on the

Professor Miren Iturriza-Gmara, professor of

microbiological

virology at the department of clinical infection,

appointments which will continue until March

microbiology and immunology at the Institute of

2019 were announced this month by Food

Infection and Global Health at the University of

Standards Agency Chair, Tim Bennett. Dr Roy

safety

of

food.

The

Liverpool has over the last 15 years developed

And Alec Kyriakides, head of product quality

Betts and Prof Goutam (Bob) Adak were

an international reputation in enteric viruses.

safety and supplier performance at Sainsburys

reappointed to the committee to the same date.

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THE STORY OF
VEGETARIANISM
Feature of the month by Szemerdy Zsfia
The history of vegetarianism goes back to the

humanitarian approaches, and most

agricultural revolution, adapting modern

origins of humans. Vegetables and fruits

importantly religion. We should not dismiss

farming and animal husbandry approaches or

always served as a primary food in times of

these arguments, simply put them aside and

without the development of sciences like

poverty and famine, when there was no way

redirect the focus on to a more tactile part:

plant breeding and hot-houses. These factors

to get meat or fish. Vegetarianism itself

the everyday origins of vegetables.

led to the fundamental changing of culinary

became more plausible and widespread in

People cannot make ideological choices

habits and further effects on the economy

the 18th century in Britain. Diverse books

between meat and vegetables unless there

notably the rise of the more specified

state various reasons as the driving force

are meat and vegetables to choose from in

vegetable markets in larger cities.

behind the ideology of Pythagorean system,

the first place. Vegetarianism would have not

Vegetables, if they were used in previous

(as vegetarianism was referred to in polite

been possible without the new vegetables

centuries amongst the refined classes

society) from the rise of enlightenment to

coming from foreign lands; without an

anyhow, were merely flavouring ingredients,

Turn to p 9

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NEWS IN BRIEF
ITS A WRAP

and traditional media: what they want is

SPONSORS of sports events are no

more flexibility, freedom and

longer just interested in raising their

convenience in when and how they

profile but want to engage with fans and

consume any kind of content, its report

successful sports organisations will be

to 2019 states.

those who wrap their events inside a

live entertainment experience.

ON YER BIKE

Thats the message from PwC Outlook

A one-stop bike shop, where you can

Gardening tips from Flea Robertson (left) with

FG editor Steve Ward and his wife Elaine.

which looks at the global media and

get your bike repaired, look over new

Tomatoes are so rewarding to grow and its not too

entertainment industry.

models all over a cup of coffee has

late to start now. You can cheat a bit buying them as

And it boosts the idea that sports fans,

opened in Newcastle in the UK.

seedlings. Go to your favourite gardening shop and

gym users and sportsmen and women

The Journey on Higham Place was

ask to see their tomato plants. You will find they can

are happy to accept advertising via the

opened by Robert Goodwill MP under-

be from four inches (ten centimetres) high to around

social network including their mobiles.

secretary of state for transport.

18 to 20 inches or 45 centimetres.

Its increasingly clear that consumers

The bike-friendly city held annual

You will see tiny cherry tomatoes, medium-sized red,

see no significant divide between digital

cycling Sundays in the 1920s.

orange or even black ones which are good for taste

and colour in a mixed salad and also big juicy steak

HISTORY OF VEGETARIANISM - cont from page 8

tomatoes which can be sliced across with sliced

onions and topped with olive oil, salt and pepper.

and less often used as an

Englishmen of the genteel society

accompaniment for meat, fish, and

openly argued in favour of the

shop ask the sales person to make a label for each

poultry. They were great components for

herbivorous diet, occasionally for the

plant attached to the plant not the pot or the stick.

soups, however. Popular belief thought

radical dairy-free version. The word

vegetables were windy, therefore unfit

vegan was not coined yet. It is clear

person for distances between the plants.

to be eaten except in broths, or well-

however, vegetarianism could only be

Planting

seasoned in oil, in salads. Meanwhile,

an option thanks to the influence of

advised by common knowledge fruit was

combined developments of new food

Soak plants for a half-hour under water beforehand.

eaten to keep down the vapour. The

products and their improved methods of

Dig a hole next to the stake and lower in your tomato

widespread use of fruits and vegetables

preservation and growing. By the end of

as an alimentary meal came into fashion

the 18th century the efforts of

and press firmly. Soil levels should remain the same.

mostly in the 18th century.

vegetarians finally bloomed and in 1847

Growing

The change is visible when one looks at

the Vegetarian Society was founded. It

the various cookery books of the time. It

was established separately from the

have fresh tomatoes in about eight to ten weeks or

is worth looking at John Evelyns

church under the leadership of Joseph

slightly more.

Acetaria: or a Discourse of Sallets which

Brotherton (1783-1857), a

is one of the earliest works dealing

Nonconformist minister. In the same

tie back as

primarily with vegetables and fruits;

year the first conference of the new

they grow

Hanna Glasses famous book The Art of

British Vegetarian Society was held in

Cookery, which ran through at least 40

Manchester.

tomatoes

editions and was a bestseller of its time;

Zsfia Szemerdy has been vegetarian

will grow

or volumes like the Encyclopaedia of

from birth. She managed to combine

Gardening, to gain further insight on the

her beliefs and passions in her work (of

quite

subject. If one looks for famous

which this is an extract) when she got to

happily or

vegetarians of the time Shelley, Pope,

research the relationship of history and

Newton, Lambe and other prominent

vegetarianism.

Choose a few of each type. Before you leave the

Dont ever remove it. It is essential to buy the stakes

at the same time, one for each plant. Ask the sales

Dig in well-rotted manure or tomato fertiliser. Mark

the spots with a stake. Water soil to make this easier.

plant. Tie it on to the stake using a figure of eight tie

three-quarters of the way up the stem. Replace soil

Prick out shoots which appear between branches on

the stem. Water when the soil gets dry and youll

While growing make sure ties do not get too tight and
continue to

higher up.
PS Cherry

along the
ground

you can
use stakes
too.

FR

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VEGAN EXTRAVAGANZA
Its quite
scary. Its
fantastic. But
its quite
scary.

Laura
Edwards

Laura left (with the cap on & dreads), Kylie right (with red hair)
THIS SUMMER's first-ever teen vegan camp is set to be hugely

go to camp and theres not really anybody else doing that for the teens.

successful, but that doesn't mean it's not nerve wracking too!

And we knew of some people who were doing it in America so we thought

The ground breaking event is set for launch in August with hundreds of

it would probably be a good next step in Teen VGN.

kids from the UK, Wales and even one from France queuing up for a

We spoke to people who ran vegan camps in America. They do them in

chance to enjoy a totally fun vegan experience.

California in Missouri and a couple of different states.

But one of this pioneering event's founders is finding the experience is

Camps are very big over in America. I think they run them for the whole

scary and nerve wracking, but in a good way.

summer and they get hundreds and hundreds of kids going.

In an exclusive interview with FG, Laura Edwards, 25, a free-lance social

And Lauras dab hand at social media has been instrumental in getting the

media consultant from South Wales, said: Its quite scary. Its fantastic.

word around.

But its quite scary.

Its probably just the presence on social media. I think thats such a big

The camp was Laura and friend Kylie Fackrells brainchild. The pair both

thing. Everybodys getting on social media. Its a big platform for

live in Torfaen, South Wales where they worked on the project, part-time,

connecting with customers and others, she explained.

from home.

But the huge success hasnt turned Laura and Kylie into millionaires, at

Laura continued: Its our first one. We have got a lot of planning to do. Its

least not yet.

taken a lot of organisation. Its definitely nerve-wracking but were pretty

We are not taking any money from this at all. We have never taken any

confident that it will be a really good time out.

money from Teen VGN. Weve both actually got full-time jobs apart from

Hopefully itll be educational and fun and give people a good feeling about

Teen VGN. We do it 100% voluntarily. I would like to hope that in the

their lifestyle and get them to think about different things.

future this could become a career for at least myself or both of us. I guess

We are going to have a chef called Little Miss Meatfree. She does

we have just got to see how we can progress.

cookery demos and cookery classes all around the UK. Shes vegan and
shes going to be coming to do a cookery demo. And weve got somebody
called Eli Bedford. She does raw food. Shes going to be coming too.
The whole thing started as a spin off from the pairs on-line support group
for teenage vegans, Teen VGN.
We run Teen VGN anyway. We set that up as a support group, social
network for vegetarians and vegans. We knew that there werent any other
groups that were purely for them. We decided to just set that up for them.
Then we were thinking about how we should progress. We were
wondering whether we should do our own festivals, whether we should do
hangouts, meet-ups, things like that and I thought to myself, Well I used to

Winnarainbow camp, California - where vegan meals are on the menu