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hello, i want to know what is thedifference between Icu(ultimate short-circuit


breaking capacity) & Ics (service short-circuit breaking capacity) for any circuit
breaker?

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hello, i want to know what is thedifference between Icu(ultimate shortcircuit breaking capacity) & Ics (service short-circuit breaking capacity) for
any circuit breaker?

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I found these tw o short *.pdf files w hich w ill help you alot:
https://a248.e.akamai.net/cache.automation.siemens.com/dnl/TE0MjU4Nw AA_24489735_FAQ/PD_Guide_71.pdf
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http://selink.schneiderelectric.com.sg/selink/sg/Schinternetnew .nsf/($All)/7BC1A412C502416C48256FBA002C1D15/$file/Vol%202.%20The%20Controversy%20of%20Icu%20and%20Ics.pdf
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Dear Mr.kinjal
Hear is your answer,
Icu is really the maximum perspective fault which a circuit breaker can clear (with
the fault current being expressed as rms for ac). This is verified by testing in

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accordance with the standard and is applicable at a specific set of electrical and
environmental conditions. If these conditions change then it may be necessary
to derate the circuit breaker. After clearing a fault the circuit breaker does not
have to remain serviceable and could be dangerous to operate. This point is
particularly important in circuit breakers when the Ics is lower than the Icu.
Ics is the maximum perspective fault current which the circuit breaker can clear
and still remain serviceable. The standard does allow some minor welding of
the contacts to take place, so after a large fault it would still be necessary to
inspect the breaker. When specified as a percentage of Ics, the standard
proposes ranges of 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%.
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Icu - ultimate breaking capacity. The breaker can break this fault current, but it
may not be usable afterwards.
Ics - service breaking capacity. As per Icu, but the breaker remains usable.

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Icu - ultimate breaking capacity. The breaker can break this fault current,
but it may not be usable afterwards.
Ics - service breaking capacity. As per Icu, but the breaker remains
usable.

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Hello,
Icu: The breaker m ust be able to break this current tw o tim es w ithout causing
dam age. The breaker m ust be changed or testest after tw o short circuit @ Icu
Ics: The breaker m ust be able to break this current three tim es w ithout
causing dam age. The breaker m ust be able to conduct its rated current w ithout
m aintenance.

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7/5/2013 10:45 AM
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Hi,
as per IEC 60947
Rated ultimate short-circuit breaking capacity (Icu)

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The rated ultimate short-circuit breaking capacity of a circuit-breaker is the value

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of ultimate short-circuit breaking capacity assigned to that circuit-breaker by the

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manufacturer for the corresponding rated operational voltage, under the


conditions specified in standards. It is expressed as the value of the prospective
breaking current, in kA (r.m.s. value of the a.c.component in the case of a.c.).

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Test sequence III : O - t - CO ( open - 3mins- close open)


Rated service short-circuit breaking capacity (Ics)
The rated service short-circuit breaking capacity of a circuit-breaker is the value
of service short-circuit breaking capacity assigned to that circuit-breaker by the
manufacturer for the
corresponding rated operational voltage, under the conditions specified in
standards. It is expressed as a value of prospective breaking current, in kA,

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corresponding to one of the specified percentages of the rated ultimate shortcircuit breaking capacity.

It may be expressed as a % of Icu (for example Ics = 50 % Icu).


Test sequence II : O - t - CO - t - CO

( open - 3mins- close open-3mins- close

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Icu - ultimate short-circuit breaking capacity


a breaking capacity for which the prescribed conditions according to
a specified test sequence do not include the capability of the circuitbreaker to carry its rated current continuously.

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Ics - service short-circuit breaking capacity


a breaking capacity for which the prescribed conditions according to
a specified test sequence include the capability of the circuit-breaker
to carry its rated current continuously

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hello, i want to know what is thedifference between Icu(ultimate shortcircuit breaking capacity) & Ics (service short-circuit breaking capacity) for
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Icu - ultimate breaking capacity. The breaker can break this fault current,
but it may not be usable afterwards.
Ics - service breaking capacity. As per Icu, but the breaker remains
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It means that if I use a breaker of 55kA breaking capacity than Ics is 55kA & current
beyiund 55kA is ICU........
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Icu - ultimate breaking capacity. The breaker can break this fault
current, but it may not be usable afterwards.

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Ics - service breaking capacity. As per Icu, but the breaker remains
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It means that if I use a breaker of 55kA breaking capacity than Ics is 55kA & current
beyiund 55kA is ICU........
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Dearnkur,
Breaker manufacture should tell you this info.
It should be in the breaker data sheet.

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