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BLUF: NSA/IAD seniors will be meeting with Ms. ills Tuesday on Blackberry vulnerabilities and the range of mitigation
options based on a request she made of me this orning. I want to ensure that you have the opportunity to attend, or
to send your experts, to join the discussion and h r firsthand what the options are.
Date: Tuesday, 27 February 2009
Time: 1400
Place: The Secretary's Conference Room
POCs: Lori Mclean (for Chief of Staff);[----"_-_-.Background: I believe IAD was to have coordinate
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T want to assume that you had been informed of the meeting and
desired and appropriate. If this IS first heard for you, please be
g the line of "fog of battle" or "too many cooks..."
I apologize up front for inadvertently forcing the i ue. 1met with Ms. Mills this morning to introduce myself and was
immediately questioned about the "art of the pos Ible" re: the Blackberries. NSA is fully prepared to brief on the
vulnerabilities; to make sure they understand full the requirement (which was stated to me as needing to use the
Blackberries in the Secretary's Suite at the undass fled level for scheduling/emailing etc. and possibly also for voice); and
to discuss/offer mitigations that would enable re lution of the requirement.
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OS offices so that she can advise Lori Mclean prio to the session.
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Jat Eric's request, we began examining options for S with respect to secure "Blackberry-like communications...the
current state of the art is not too user friendly, has o infrastructure at State, and is very expensive...each time we asked
the question "What was the solution for POTUS?"
wererlitely told to shut up and oolor .. . NSA opened the door for us
to establish requirements and they would try to hel ... then
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happened to have a meeting with Cheryl Mills whe S's displeasure with tfle current no BB In the SCIF" issue "just cam~ UTHORITY:
up: Now NSA Is offering a briefing Tues and clea y are ready to make things happen.
Barbara
Whtie our noses are out of joint for how this was h died, the issue will be what kind of support wilJ NSA be offering to
meet S demands {basically wireless comm in Mah any Row)... and whatever solution they provide will have to have a
supporting request (or an existing MOA)... so that i the only reason I was giving you a heads up... Don
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The meeting on 17 February at 2 p.m. rn the Secre ary's conference room.
Apologies for the typo.
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Good afternoon BLUF: NSA/IAD seniors will be meeting with Ms. lls Tuesday on Blackberry vulnerabilities and the range of mitigation
options based on a request she made of me this
rnlng. I want to ensure that you have the opportunity to attend, or
to send your experts, to join the discussion and he r firsthand what the options are.
nme: 1400
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g the tine of "fog of battle" or "too many cooks.. .n
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immediately questioned about the "art of the po ible" re: the Blackberries. NSA is fully prepared to brief on the
vulnerabllltles; to make sure they understand full the requirement (which was stated to me as needing to use the
Blackberries In the Secretary's Suite at the undass fied level for scheduling/emailing etc. and possibly also for voice); and
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Good afternoon BLUF: NSA/IAO seniors will be meeting with Ms. ills Tuesday on Blackberry vulnerabilities and the range of mitigation
options based on a request she made of me this
rning. I want to ensure that you have the opportunity to attend, or
to send your experts, to join the discussion and h ar firsthand what the options are.
Time: 1400
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I apologize up front for inadvertently forcing the i ue. I met with Ms. Mills this morning to introduce myself and was
immeC:iately questioned about the Hart of the po ibleu re: the Blackberries. NSA is fully prepared to brief on the
Blackberries in the Secretary's Suite at the unclass fled level for scheduling/emailing etc. and possibly also for voice); and
to discuss/offer mitigations that would enable re lutlon of the requirement.
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been speculating, the issue here Is one of personal comfort .. $
Barbara
does not use a computer so our view of someone
ded to their email (why doesn't she use her desktop when in the Nielsen,
SCIF?) doesn't fit this scenario... during the campa gn she was urged to keep in contact with thousands via a BB ... once Senior
she got the hang of It, she was hooked... now eve day. she feels hamstrung because she has to lock her BB up ... she Reviewer
does go out several times a day to an office they ve crafted for her outside the SCIF and plays email catch-up... Cheryl
Mills and others who are dedicated BB addicts are strafed because they too are not near their desktop very often
during the working day... at this 2PM meeting Che I indicated she last checked her email at 8:30... they are used to
having the BB on their hip and staying closely in to ch with developments during the day
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SUMMARY:
-Premeeting: at the premeetlng, attendee determined that not enough specifics were known about the
requirement to jump right in with a discussion an that Ms. Mills should be invited to describe the requirement for the
group at the start of the meeting. In addition, it w s agreed that this was not a decision meeting; rather, a discussion
and information gathering meeting to enable eve one to a) better understand the requirement, b) better understand
some of the wlnerabilities, mitigations, costs (int rms of functionality lost, time needed to develop solutions, etc.)
associated with the requirement, and c) determln how to move forward.
-Meeting: Ms. Mills described the require ent as chiefly driven by Secretary Clinton, who does not use standard
computer equipment but relies exclusively on her Blackberry for e-mailing and remaining In contact on her sc~edule,
etc. lde~ly all members of her suite would be alto ed to use Blackberries for communication in the SCIF;r _
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very functionality desired I
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has witnessed use of Blackberries in other sensit,;~ (but perhaps not SCIFed) spaces; she asked some excellent questions
about what might be possible and prudent. She alf<> asked about precedent; former Secretary Rice had received waivers
for her staff; however, use expanded to an unma!geable number of users from a security perspective, so those waivers
were phased out and Blackberry use was not allo ed in her Suite.
Ms. Mills asked about the President's Bia berry and whether the information about that was compartmt:nted;
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meeting - or to ask any questions- important thl g is that everyone agree that I captured the action and deliverable
accurately, and that everyone now know what th requirement really is - if I have failed in either of those regards,
PLEASE do NOT hesitate to correct or question!
All the best, and thanks again to all who participat
minds.
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coordination and planning for yesterday' meeting did not anticipate the need for S/EX representation ...this
Cheryl Mills that was prompted by SA has raised a host of related issues.. .
discussion
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options to meet S and others requirements... ther:e rtalnly will be costs associated with anything that get Implemented ...
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-Premeetlng: at the premeeting, attendee determined that not enough specifics were known about the
requirement to jump right in with a discussion an that Ms. Mills should be Invited to describe the requirement for the
group at the start of the meeting. In addition, It w s agreed that this was not a decision meeting; rather, a discussion
and Information gathering meeting to enable eve one to a) better understand the requirement, b) better understand
some of the vulnerabilities, mitigations, costs (in t rms of functionality lost, time needed to develop solutions, etc.)
associated with the requirement, and c) determi how to move forward.
-Meeting: Ms. Mills described the require ent as chiefly driven by Secretary Ointon, who does not use standar
computer equipment but relies exduslvely on her Blackberry for e-mailing and remaining in contact on her schedule,
~c. ldeiltv all members of her suite would be allo ed to use Blackberries for communication in the SCIF;
was not the primary driver, but if po sible would be a plus.
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Hi, Cheryl:
I hope the information in the memo and the slig tly expanded background paper help with your decision re: whether to
pursue use of BlackBerries in the suite.

Sometimes the distinction between what can be one and what is, or is not, recommended to be done differ; this is one
of those instances. OS's response illustrates thei level of concern based on their extensive professional expertise.
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I hope this additional info is useful and I apologiz if offering it is presumptuous - please let me know what else NSA can
do to help, either in the decision-making process or in the decision-implementation process. I can identify with your
statement that we as a community of technical a d security experts should have done a better job of anticipating the
need for expanded use of personal electronic d tees- if that's an area where the Administration and the Secretary
need us to focus and drive harder, I'll do my utm st to turn that message into reality.
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Bureau of Diplomatic Security had is ongoing.
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Arms Export Control Act, SOa USC 241 l(c)

Central Intelligence Agency Act of 1949, 50 USC 403(g)
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Foreign Service Act of 1980, 22 USC 4 004
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c:ionftd8nlfal GcMlmmetlt agents); aec:tiuJll 7(c) and 8H Of the lnlpec:tor Gell8t8l Ad of 1978 (5 U.S.C. App.) (miming to dllclolurea to
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BLUF: NSA/IAD seniors will be meeting with Ms. ills Tuesday on Blackberry vulnerabilities and the range of mitigation
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I think I probably need to attend this meeting n Tuesday. SOIC interests seem clearly to be Involved.
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to send your experts, to join the discussion and h ar firsthand what the options are.
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FW: Recap - Meeting e: Blackberries

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the coordination and planning for yesterday' meeting did not anticipate the need for S/EX representation ... this
discussion with Cheryl Mills that was prompted by SA has raised a host of related issues ... mI~ILi~J!!no1lf .o
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options to meet S and others requirements ... there rtalnly will be costs associated with anything that get implemented...
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-Premeeting: at the premeeting, attendee determined that not enough specifics were known about the
requirement to jump right In with a discussion an that Ms. Miiis should be Invited to describe the requirement for the
group at the start of the meeting. In addition, It w s agreed that this was not a decision meeting; rather, a discussion
and Information gathering meeting to enable eve one to a) better understand the requirement, b) better understand ~B( 1 )
some of the vulnerablllties, mitigations, costs (int rms of functionality lost, time needed to develop solutions, etc.)
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-Meeting: Ms. Mills described the require ent as chiefly driven by Secretary Clinton, who does not use standar (a)(3)-P.L.
computer equipment but relies exclusively on her Blackberry for e-mailing and remaining In contact on her schedule,
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geable number of users from a security perspective, so those waivers
ed in her Suite.
berry and whether the information about that was compartmented;
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meeting - or to ask any questions - Important thi g is that everyone agree that I captured the action and deliverable
accurately, and that everyone now know what th requirement really Is- if I have failed In either of those regards,
PLEASE do NOT hesitate to c;orrect or question I
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Cheryl Miiis, Chief ofStafftoS
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Here's the results of our meeting yest~rday ... as I
been speculating, the issue here is one of personal comfort... S
Barbara
does not use a computer so our view of someone
ded to their email (why doesn't she use her desktop when in the Nielsen,
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she got the hang of it, she was hooked... now eve day, she feels hamstrung because she has to lock her BB up ... she Reviewer
does go out several times a day to an office they h ve crafted for her outside the SCIF and plays email catch-up ... Cheryl
Mills and others who are dedicated BB addicts are strated because they too are not near their desktop very often
during the working day.. .at this 2PM meeting Che I indicated she last checked her email at 8:30 ... they are used to
having the BB on their hip and staying closely in to ch with developments during the day
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SUMMARY:
Premeeting: at the premeetlng, attendee determined that not enough specifics were known about the
requirement to jump right in with a discussion an that Ms. Mills should be invited to describe the requirement for the
group.at the start of the meeting. In addition, it w s agreed that this was not a decision meeting; rather, a discussion
and information gathering meeting to enable eve one to a) better understand the requirement, b) better understand
some of the vulnerabilities, mitigations, costs (int nns of functionality lost, time needed to develop solutions, etc.)
associated with the requirement, and c) determln how to move forward.
-Meeting: Ms. Miiis described the require ent as chiefly driven by Secretary Clinton, who does not use standard
computer equipment but relies exclusively on her Blackberry for e-mailing and remaining In contact on her schedule,
etc. Ideally all members of her suite would be allo ed to use Blackberries for communication In the SCIF;L J
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about what misht be possible and prudent. She al asked about precedent; former Secretary Rice had received waivers
for her staff; however, use expanded to an unma geable number of users from a security perspective, so those waivers
were phased out and Blackberry use was not allo ed in her Suite.
Ms. Miiis asked about the President's Blac berry and whether the information about that was compartmented;
she understands that she cannot be given lnforma ion about the specifics.
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meeting - or to ask any questions - Important thl g Is that everyone agree that I captured the action and deliverable
accurately, and that everyone now know what th requirement really is - If I have failed In either of those regards,
PLEASE do NOT hesitate to correct or question!
All the best, and thanks again to all who participat d in what I believe was a very productive and useful meeting of the
minds.
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Director, Office of Information Securl
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Hi, Cheryl:
Here is the note I forwarded to Cheryl Mills this m ming after I dropped off the info.
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Hi, Cheryl:
I hope the information In the memo and the sfig Uy expanded background paper help with your decision re: whether to
pursue use of BlackBerries in the suite.
Sometimes the distinction between what can be one and what Is, or Is not, recommended to be done differ; this Is one
of those instances. OS's response Illustrates thel level of concern based on their extensive professional expertise.
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I hope this additional info Is useful and I apologiz If offering it is presumptuous- please let me know what else NSA can
do to help, either in the decision-making process or in the decision-implementation process. I can identify with your
statement that we as a community of technical a d security experts should have done a better job of anticipating the
need for expanded use of personal electronic de !ces- if that's an area where the Administration and the Secretary
need us to focus and drive harder, I'll do my utm st to turn that message into reality.
Very respectfully,
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current state of the art is not too user friendly, has o infrastructure at State, and is very expensive ... each time we asked
the question "What was the solution ft>r POTUS?"
were olitel told to shut up and color... NSA opened the door ft>r us
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The meeting on 17 February at 2 p.m. In the Secre ary's conference room.
Apologies for the typo.
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I presume this meeting is Tuesday 17 Feb rather t an 27 Feb?
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Good afternoon BLUF: NSA/IAD seniors will be meeting with Ms. M lls Tuesday on Blackberry vulnerabilities and the range of mitigation
options based on a request she made of me this m ming. I want to ensure that you have the opportunity to attend, or
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desired and appropriate. If this rs first heard for you, please be
g the line of "fog of battle" or "too many cooks.. .n
I apologize up front for inadvertently forcing the i ue. I met with Ms. Mills this morning to Introduce myself and was
immediately questioned about the "art of the pos Ible" re: the Blackberries. NSA is fully prepared to brief on the
vulnerabllltles; to make sure they understand full the requirement (which was stated to me as needing to use the
Blackberries In the Secretary's Suite at the unclass fled level for scheduling/emailing etc. and possibly also for voice); and
to discuss/offer mitigations that would enable res lution of the requirement.
a~_ jh ve been charged by Debbie Plunkett (D/IAD) to lead the briefing

team. Please do not hesitate to contact t em or e, to help shape the agenda, ask questions, etc. Their phone numbers
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cc'ed on this note) know who will attend from the CIO and
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