Did MH370 GLIDE down with pilot at the controls - not crash?

Investigators admit they've been looking in the wrong place for two years
Investigators hunting for MH370 believed to be looking in the wrong spot
Dutch company leading the search believes the jet glided in final moments
Initially believed plane travelling to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur nosedived
If searchers are correct, they have been combing wrong area for two years
Desperate search of 120,000 sq km off WA, Australia may end in 3 months
By Reuters and Lucy Mae Beers For Daily Mail Australia
Published: 07:14 GMT, 21 July 2016 | Updated: 13:10 GMT, 21 July 2016
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Investigators at a Dutch company leading the underwater hunt for Malaysia Airlin
es jet MH370 say they believe the plane may have glided down rather than dived i
n the final moments.
The latest theory means that search teams looking for the aircraft may have been
scouring the wrong patch of ocean for two years.
Flight MH370 disappeared in March 2014 with 239 passengers and crew onboard en r
oute to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
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Top searchers at the Dutch company leading the underwater hunt for Malaysia Airl
ines jet MH370 say they believe the plane may have glided down rather than dived
in the final moments, meaning they have been scouring the wrong patch of ocean
for two years
Top searchers at the Dutch company leading the underwater hunt for Malaysia Airl
ines jet MH370 say they believe the plane may have glided down rather than dived
in the final moments, meaning they have been scouring the wrong patch of ocean
for two years
Divers have been searching over 120,000 square kilometres of the southern Indian
Ocean off Western Australia, but the search is expected to end in three months
Divers have been searching over 120,000 square kilometres of the southern Indian
Ocean off Western Australia, but the search is expected to end in three months
Divers led by engineering group Fugro have been combing an area roughly the size
of Greece for two years.
That search, over 120,000 square kilometres of the southern Indian Ocean off Wes
tern Australia, is expected to end in three months and could be called off follo
wing a meeting of key countries Malaysia, China and Australia on Friday. So far,
nothing has been found.
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul K
ennedy told Reuters.
While Mr Kennedy does not exclude extreme possibilities that could have made the
plane impossible to spot in the search zone, he and his team argue a more likel
y option is the plane glided down - meaning it was manned at the end - and made
it beyond the area marked out by calculations from satellite images.

'If it was manned it could glide for a long way,' Kennedy said.
The families of passengers who went missing on MH370 hold up signs demanding to
know what has happened to their loved ones
The families of passengers who went missing on MH370 hold up signs demanding to
know what has happened to their loved ones
It has been more than two years since the aircraft went missing en route to Beij
ing on a journey from Kuala Lumpur
It has been more than two years since the aircraft went missing en route to Beij
ing on a journey from Kuala Lumpur
Relatives of passengers missing on Malaysia Airlines MH370 holds placards during
a press conference after meeting with the Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JAC
C) and Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) at a hotel in Kuala Lumpur
Relatives of passengers missing on Malaysia Airlines MH370 holds placards during
a press conference after meeting with the Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JAC
C) and Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) at a hotel in Kuala Lumpur
'You could glide it for further than our search area is, so I believe the logica
l conclusion will be well maybe that is the other scenario.'
Doubts that the search teams are looking in the right place will likely fuel cal
ls for all data to be made publicly available so that academics and rival compan
ies can pursue an 'open source' solution - a collaborative public answer to the
airline industry's greatest mystery.
Fugro's controlled glide hypothesis is also the first time officials have leant
some support to contested theories that someone was in control during the flight
's final moments.
Since the crash there have been competing theories over whether one, both or no
pilots were in control, whether it was hijacked - or whether all aboard perished
and the plane was not controlled at all when it hit the water.
The Australian ship HMAS Perth is guided into position by the RNZAF aircraft to
recover a red object during the search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH37
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The Australian ship HMAS Perth is guided into position by the RNZAF aircraft to
recover a red object during the search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH37
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Flight MH370 disappeared in March 2014 with 239 passengers and crew onboard en r
oute to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur
Flight MH370 disappeared in March 2014 with 239 passengers and crew onboard en r
oute to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur
A policeman and a gendarme stand next to a piece of debris from an unidentified
aircraft found in the coastal area of Saint-Andre de la Reunion, in the east of
the French Indian Ocean on July 29, 2015
A policeman and a gendarme stand next to a piece of debris from an unidentified
aircraft found in the coastal area of Saint-Andre de la Reunion, in the east of
the French Indian Ocean on July 29, 2015
Adding to the mystery, investigators believe someone may have deliberately switc
hed off the plane's transponder before diverting it thousands of miles.
The glide view is not supported by the investigating agencies: America's Boeing
Co, France's Thales SA , U.S. investigator the National Transportation Safety Bo

ard, British satellite company Inmarsat PLC, the U.K. Air Accidents Investigatio
n Branch and the Australian Defence Science and Technology Organisation.
The meeting between officials from China, Australia and Malaysia is expected to
discuss the future of the search. The three governments have previously agreed t
hat unless any new credible evidence arises the search would not be extended, de
spite calls from victims' families.
Any further search would require a fresh round of funding from the three governm
ents on top of the almost $180 million that has already been spent, making it th
e most expensive in aviation history.
Deciding the search area in 2014, authorities assumed the plane had no 'inputs'
during its final descent, meaning there was no pilot or no conscious pilot. They
believe it was on auto-pilot and spiralled when it ran out of fuel.
But Kennedy said a skilled pilot could glide the plane approximately 120 miles (
193 km) from its cruising altitude after running out of fuel. One pilot told Reu
ters it would be slightly less than that.
The ADV Ocean Shield departs from the MH370 search area Rockingham, Australia, 2
014
The ADV Ocean Shield departs from the MH370 search area Rockingham, Australia, 2
014
Divers led by engineering group Fugro have been combing an area roughly the size
of Greece for two years.
Divers led by engineering group Fugro have been combing an area roughly the size
of Greece for two years.
If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul Ke
nnedy told Reuters
If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul Ke
nnedy told Reuters
For the aircraft to continue gliding after fuel has run out, someone must manual
ly put the aircraft into a glide - nose down with controlled speed.
'If you lose all power, the auto-pilot kicks out. If there is nobody at the cont
rols, the aircraft will plummet down,' said a captain with experience flying Boe
ing 777s - the same as MH370. Like all pilots interviewed for this story, he dec
lined to be named given the controversy around the lost jet.
Fugro works on a 'confidence level' of 95 percent, a statistical measurement use
d, in Fugro's case, to indicate how certain the plane debris was not in the area
they have already combed, a seabed peppered with steep cliffs and underwater vo
lcanoes.
'The end-of-flight scenarios are absolutely endless,' Fugro managing director St
eve Duffield said. 'Which wing ran out of fuel first, did it roll this way or di
d it tip that way?'
Debris has been recovered from the Maylaysian airlines jet, but divers have stil
l been trying to find the rest of the aircraft
Debris has been recovered from the Maylaysian airlines jet, but divers have stil
l been trying to find the rest of the aircraft
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), the agency coordinating the searc
h, has consistently defended the defined search zone.

It did not immediately respond to questions over whether it was assessing the co
ntrolled glide theory.
Authorities used data provided by Inmarsat to locate the likely plunge point thr
ough communication between the plane and satellite ground station.
'All survey data collected from the search for missing flight MH370 will be rele
ased,' an ATSB spokesman said.
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Toffeesox, York, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else.' Priceless.
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Lik Mybum, Voldemoort, 3 hours ago
This idiot works for Fugro, the Hydrographic Survey company contracted for a 2-y
ear project at huge cost to do the search using two, fully-crewed vessels. The c
ontract is due to come to an end shortly. Fugro are currently in deep financial
doo-doo, due to the huge downturn in oil prices - most of their survey business
is linked to the oil & gas market. The day rates were fixed at a time before the
oil crash & therefore at a very high rate. This project, therefore, has been on
e of Fugro's financial backbones for 2 years and it's shortly to finish. Of cour
se this non-aviation expert Project Director is saying we need to look elsewhere
, he wants a new search contract. Fugro are literally clinging on for their live
s financially at the moment - a contract renewal will potentially save their ski
ns. Just sayin'.
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rainbowstar, Perth, Australia, 1 hour ago
Alien took it away . Trust me
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Wayne Clarke, Swansea, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Maybe if the investigators had bothered to listen to all the people who claimed
to have seen the plane flying low and not just guessed where it was they'd have
found it by know. I really get the feeling they don't want to find this aircraft
crash site.
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burnfield, manchester, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago

Maybe they need to press the magically-find-airplane button

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well....., Carminish, Azerbaijan, 3 hours ago
very convenient
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nicky, Brighton, 7 hours ago
It's not supposed to be found, for whatever reason. The whole account stinks.
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mick74, London, 5 hours ago
To this day they havent told us WHO was on that aeroplane and what they were car
rying... However, we do know that some TOP NOTCH military equipment WAS on the a
irplane and destined for China.The fact that the aircraft didnt make it to its d
estination is a sweet thing for the US military.
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well....., Carminish, Azerbaijan, 3 hours ago
agreed nicky very convenient.
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Richard UK taxpayer, Federal non democratic EEC, Spain, 7 hours ago
If we are able to follow migratory routes of even small birds with GPS electroni
cs cheap and light enough for them to carry, why on earth is every commercial ai
rcraft not fitted with a device that ping's its GPS location every few minutes?
Hardy rocket science.
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Getaneducation, Mid Levels, Hong Kong, 6 hours ago
Generally the air traffic controllers will radar plot an aircraft with an emerge
ncy AND call on other aircraft to shepherd. Yes, this means tasking potentially
another airline to abandon their route in order to ensure the safety of the susp
ect aircraft. At the same time, military aircraft would be launched to take over
the shepherding / SAR responsibility. This means that even if the xponder fails
(or is turned off), at least one person or agency knows EXACTLY where the aircr
aft is. Malaysia failed in every which way. They just did not know how to deal w

ith an emergency and then they stick their heads in the sand further by abductin
g responsibility to the ongoing sector.
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Richard UK taxpayer, Federal non democratic EEC, Spain, 5 hours ago
Alice, you missed the point by a mile! The last signal by the untamperable GPS w
ould give a far more accurate location where the plane likely went down than tho
usands of square miles as the present system in this case.
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Bretagne XJR, Paris, France, 7 hours ago
"If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else".....the art of stating the ble
eding obvious.....
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dawman, Winchester, United Kingdom, 3 hours ago
Look, it takes an expert's insight and years of experience to come up with such
complex statement. Where would the world be without these people...
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casaloco, Swindon, United Kingdom, 3 hours ago
"Where would the world be without these people" - No idea, maybe they might have
put a GPS tracker on it.
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Ellstevo, Bourne, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
This plane had Rolls Royce trento engines in. Every single engine that leaves De
rby has sensors and gps that can be tracked so that Rolls Royce can identify a p
roblem with any of their engines and inform the airline of repairs necessary. I
wonder why this info has never come to light?
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Ellstevo, Bourne, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
Wow I wasn't aware of that part. Thanks for letting me know!!
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Madridboy, Madrid, Spain, 1 hour ago

Completely incorrect.
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Philip, Nottingham, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Time to bring aircraft and ships into the 21st century. You can fly a drone arou
nd the world sitting at a desk. Yet you don't know what happens on board ships o
r planes unless you find an outdated box, ridiculous
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casaloco, Swindon, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
@Dgladys - welcome to the 21st Century, where you can watch NetFlix for your ent
ire flight to Australia. The tech (airline seat phones anyone?) has been ready f
or WELL OVER a decade, it just the airlines are penny pinching. Air phones and W
ifi make a profit, safety data doesn't
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Philip, Nottingham, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
It's not today's systems I'm implying, there must be a way of ejecting on impact
or sinking a record of up to the minute data where it is etc, what's wrong with
a device installed in the tail that releases after a certain depth
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Phil, Skegvegas, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Still hiding the truth of what happened? I am certain certain people know exactl
y what happened!!
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weary37, melbourne, Australia, 5 hours ago
I hope you're wrong as
's costing us millions
d ones but the thought
information that's not
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it would be very disappointing for Australian citizens it

for the search not that we mind for some closure for love
of foul play and I've thought it too that there's hidden
being conveyed.

New Yorker, NYC, 2 hours ago

Top brass at Inmarsat know what happened. They have no skin in the game. But the
people they relayed the information to have put a lid on things.
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My Pointless Views, Portsmouth, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else'. As the late, great Spike Mill
igram once said "everything's gotta be somewhere........" !
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Sparkle, Dumfries, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
I love that, best quote ever!!!
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IrishMammy, Waterford, Ireland, 4 hours ago
Milligan.
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jsomum, Oxford, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Project Director says "If its not there. it means it's somewhere else" Well give
that man a gold star! I really daren't think how much he gets paid for deductiv
e comments like that
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STEADY EDDIE 68, London, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Hmmmm you can track an iPhone all over the world, but they seem to have lost a p
lane! Really???
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yateus, London, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
Cell phone users on the hijacked planes didn't need transmission towers on 9/11,
or so we were told.
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STEADY EDDIE 68, London, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
Err the LAST KNOWN location you plonkers!!
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calummcewan, Glasgow, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago

For some reason or other, call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, this planes
not supposed to be found
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An Angel, York, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
You're probably right but why can't they just leave it there instead of dragging
it out for relatives, why not just say they have concluded there search and unf
ortunately cannot find it
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Reader01, London, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
How can a plane carrying hundreds of people just disappear. No sign of luggage,
no sign of clothing, no sign of body parts and nothing washed up anywhere. The a
uthorities can listen in on phone conversations anywhere in the world and spy on
us from satellites but they can't find a bloody big aeroplane. Is it because so
meone knows something else???
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CarlaRainbow, Newcastle, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
Less than 5% of the ocean has been explored to date. An airplane is not 'bloody
big' when crashing into water. It's absolutely tiny and considering 95% of the o
cean is still to be explored, being unable to find a tiny plane is pretty unders
tandable.
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Chillax111, Melbourne, Australia, 1 hour ago
There has been wreckage from Mh370 found! a flaperon and 3 other parts have been
confirmed to be from the plane , they also have identified a back pack to belon
g to one of the passengers that was washed up
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nick0069, london, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
"if it isn't there, it means it's somewhere else" an actual quote from an "exper
t" no wonder they haven't found it!
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Aquarius , Auckland, New Zealand, 5 hours ago
Very technical explanation .... not!
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traleels, Brisbane, Australia, 4 hours ago
Very true, even if rather vague. LOL!
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poshhightea, Melbourne, Australia, 7 hours ago
Everyone with a brain knew that. How much did we spend for Malaysia on this usel
ess search? Stupid politicians again.
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Getaneducation, Mid Levels, Hong Kong, 7 hours ago
Australia paid for it ALL. Every cent. Time Malaysia paid the money back.
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Dominic_P, Dublin, Ireland, 6 hours ago
Why do Australia pick up the bill? Surely it should be Malaysian Airlines and th
en the countries from which the majority of passengers came from no? (Malaysia/C
hina im guessing)
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Ranterfourone, Kirkcudbright, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul K
ennedy told Reuters. Really? I would never have thought of that.
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Ben Thomas Jr., New York, United States, 6 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else.' Looks like a piece of Michael
Owen wisdom...
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ILoveMyJOB, Leicestershire, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
They know what's happened. They know where it is. Something very important was o
n the plane which someone didn't want anyone knowing about. Alot of people lost
their lives for something so silly. The truth will never be made public. They di
dn't even listen to the people that saw it flying low.
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Giovana, Brussels, Belgium, 6 hours ago

With all the spy satellites and other sophisticated technology, a huge passenger
plane vanished in thin air and all those experts haven't got a clue even which
direction it took.
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ChrisCooper, Loughborough, 4 hours ago
It disappeared in an area where they have nothing of interest to spy on. n uninha
bited ocean thousands of miles from anywhere.
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Carol Barnes, Sheffield, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
It really makes me wonder about the intelligence of people, it's the empty and v
ast southern ocean, why on earth would anyone want to spend large sums of money
monitoring an empty space?
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NewGeneration, Aberdeen, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Just to make it clear, Fugro did not come up with the search area this was drawn
up by the ATSB calculated by the last known satellite pings from the Rolls Royc
e engines and the expected fuel levels after that many hours of flight time. Fug
ro have the contract to search for the plane and they DO NOT USE DIVERS. The sea
rch area is hundreds of thousands of squared kilometers and in over 3km of water
, they use AUVs and towed sonar equipment which scan the sea floor in 2km strips
. You can appreciate why this has taken 2 years and if someone told them the wro
ng place to look well..
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jimbobmo, alicesprings, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Very informative, I wish the dm journalists were as clued up as you buddy..
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ufcknockout101, London, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
a modern plane goes missing in 2014 really you do know about operation Azorian r
ight? That was in the 60s so imagine tech today
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nellakam, Las Palmas Sydney Cairns, Spain, 7 hours ago
Some planes are not supposed to be found, just like some ships. Does anyone reme
mber the ferry Estonia disaster in 1994 where close to 1000 people perished? The
boat was reportedly carrying contraband Russian arms, to the great dislike of Y

anks. Some officers, including the captain, mysteriously survived and were last
seen in Sweden where they were loaded into a dark van and taken away, never to b
e heard of again. The real truth will never be known.
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PabloEl, london, United Kingdom, 1 hour ago
The MS Estonia is indeed a very interesting case. There has been very credible d
ocumentary work done covering the cover up which i highly recommend and which ca
sts a very harsh light on sweden. Whether the transport of soviet arms was to th
e dislike of the yanks or for the benefit of the yanks is something people can i
nform themselves of. The film Baltic Storm was a dramatisation of the documentar
y reserach of one reputable investigative journalist.
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Cuckoo, Sowfeast UK, 6 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means its somewhere else'. Talk about stating the bleedin
' obvious...
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An Angel, York, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
It's absolutely disgraceful, with all the technology on board aircraft you would
think they could do better, this must be dreadful for the families of the victi
ms
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Dgladys, Tycho Brahe Crater, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
And apart from sitting there chanting how they must do better, perhaps you could
make an INFORMED suggestion as to how
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James of the Glen, Baie de Quiberon, Australia, 5 hours ago
What technology
ency (HF) voice
blurred idea of
us abilities to
ity.
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do you think passenger planes have aboard? After all, high frequ
radio is still used from remote ocean areas. Some people have a
passenger planes carrying super-sophisticated gear with miraculo
let us know where they are, no matter what. That is not the real

Count Touchthis, Sheeplesville, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago

There were islanders somewhere that saw an airliner flying low and descending -

no subsequent news on what that was (presumably worth searching for regardless o
f whatever aircraft it was). There was also that Australian owned island way out
west north west of the mainland that some thought it looked like heading for. I
hope these areas were checked .
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Sokoban, Southampton, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
I think that was the Maldives.
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Geordie1982, Newcastle, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
I can pay 99 pence for an app that finds my phone down the side of the setee but
a multi million pound aeroplane can't be located by 3 governments.
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Pentemian, Vancouver, Canada, 4 hours ago
If the 'plane had dropped down the side of the settee, they would have found it.
The ocean is a bit more challenging.
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Linda B, Skidby, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' .....Classic!
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alfaQ, Toronto, Canada, 4 hours ago
its good there are experts looking for the plane
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Mr. Orky, Wells, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
What a waste of money, when the See Eye A knows exactly where it is and what hap
pened!
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The_Common_Potato, The Field, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
I'm reasonbly certain that we are permitted to type Central Intelligence Agency
or CIA, without hindrance. NSA however is a different matt.... arrggghhh.
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Denis Barre, Lisieux, France, 3 hours ago

Not to mention the NRO. I said "not to mention"!! ....aarrgh.
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Blunderz, London, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
In other words they haven't got a clue
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dma manc, manchester, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else' ? You don't say
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we_are_all_doomed, London, Algeria, 4 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul K
ennedy told Reuters He should get a job in our goverment with these skills
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Foil Wrapped, Underground, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
The most compelling evidence (eye-witness accounts) pointed towards the plane he
ading West / South-West from Malaysia which would have put it in the cross-hairs
of the US at Diego Garcia. If they didn't bring it down, they certainly know wh
o or what did. Diego Garcia is possibly THE most important forward operating bas
e in the word (for the Middle-East, Afghanistan and South-East Asia) so their co
mms and surveillance resources focused on the airspace surrounding it is as good
as it gets. Yet they remain silent.
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Old Iron, Levin, New Zealand, 3 hours ago
Utter nonsense for a start and comprehensively disproven within days of some foo
l first suggesting it in any case.
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JoeyB, Hull, United Kingdom, 3 hours ago
of course they have been looking in the wrong place...if it was the right place
they would have found it....
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rob40, Preston, 3 hours ago

they should look on the ground not in the air

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zacklaws, Beverley, United Kingdom, 3 hours ago
Think it would have run out of fuel by now, so common sense would dictate that t
hey look on the ground and not for it in the air.
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Sy Gunson, Wellington, New Zealand, 7 hours ago
Dutch Company leading the search only claim MH370 glided to save face. The debri
s say otherwise. Blaine Gibson's NO STEP panel from Mozambique separated in-flig
ht, not on impact. Screw fastners were vibrated loose before panel tore off in t
he slipstream. In any ditching Flaperon would have been crushed by the engine sc
ooping water & rotating backwards under the wing. Instead both Flaperon and Tanz
ania flap were relatively undamaged. Huge mistake they made was the 7th Arc is n
ot where they think it is and they failed to grasp hypoxic flight meant extreme
cold altered the satellite data values & chilled the AFC oscillator
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EvadingGrid, EU Occupied Territories, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
Considering all the spy satellites and other surveillance, it beggars belief tha
t 'nobody' knows its location.
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Fungletrumpet, Stockport, United Kingdom, 3 hours ago
Thanks for that Roger Ramjet.
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Hunkydory999, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
In other words they have not got a clue! It's incredible we can monitor craft al
l the way to mars and not have a clue where a plane on earth is!
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AAA5EYES, Boomtown, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
Yes....just perfect that this plane has not been found....too perfect.
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Red Squirrel, Warrington, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago

If it's not there it means its somewhere else..I'd never have thought that...
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Devon Dumpling, Devon, 6 hours ago
Well there you go. That's the scientific brain for you, and why they baffle us m
ere mortals. LOL
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DAZ, Los Angeles, 7 hours ago
My fear is the plane was hijacked for a potential terror attack. Plenty of place
s in that part of the world where it could land undetected. As for the passenger
s, I hate to imagine their fete.
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Feddup, Yorkshire, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
James === One of the theories was a landing on Diego Garcia USAF Base to extract
some Chinese 'experts'. The aircraft could then have been dumped at sea for par
ts to be found which would indicate a crash. Undamaged parts tend to reinforce t
his theory
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HMHB, Asgard, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
Daz, as JotG said how would you care to explain the positively identified pieces
of the plane's fuselage? Also your comment 'plenty of places to land'. Really?
In the Southern Ocean? Wow my geography must be rubbish because I cannot think o
f a single one. BTW the final flight path arc as tracked fully discounts Diego G
arcia or any other islands in the Maldives or Chagos archipelago.
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Sap, London, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
It took two years to come to this ?
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JimSA, Centurion, 1 hour ago
Amazing isn't it?
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Wojtek, Warsaw, 1 hour ago

I wrote here two years ago it was very probable option...
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alfaQ, Toronto, Canada, 4 hours ago
they dont want to admit it was a deliberate mass killing
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TaMaNa, Proud of, United Kingdom, 3 hours ago
For what purpose, though? Terrorism, assassination of specific individuals, what
? What's the theory behind the statement?
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missglimmer, Cupertino., United States, 6 hours ago
Really puzzling. 239 bodies not 9 how did they disappear together with at least
400 luggages n 800 piece of clothing???
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Odesbodes, Scotland, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
"If it's not there it means it must be somewhere else." I hope this guy is being
paid millions. Genius!!!
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Paz, Dubai, UAE, 6 hours ago
I shouldn't laugh, but I have. 2 years down the line they admit they have been l
ooking in the wrong place???? Well done lads!
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Betty Swollox, London, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
Everyone except the investigators have known they were looking in the wrong plac
e for 2 years.
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Dave in Mada, Tulear, Madagascar, 4 hours ago
Divers really. At more than 3500m depth. Must be.drinking their Irn Bru. For god
s sake DM. Try and get he most basic facts straight! It's Robotic sonar towfish
that are down there!

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Dave in Mada, Tulear, Madagascar, 3 hours ago
Wow red arrowing a technical comment well done!
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Nick, Soton, 3 hours ago
Yeah - I don't really understand it. Mail readers are a bit odd in their opinion
s.
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mr gorsky, sea of tranquility, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
How is it that i can find my phone with a widely used app. But they cannot find
or trace the movements of a 200,000 dollar aircraft that likely had over 100 app
le devices on it. Have they looked on Diego Garcia yet?
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Steve, North East, 6 hours ago
...and could that app find your phone if it was under a few thousand feet of wat
er?
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Denis Barre, Lisieux, France, 3 hours ago
Lots of cell-phone masts in the middle of the southern Indian Ocean, aren't ther
e? Some people are so stupid it's frightening.
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RobertG, Rockville, United States, 1 hour ago
Well considering they haven't found it of course they are looking in the wrong p
lace.
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Getaneducation, Mid Levels, Hong Kong, 6 hours ago
Generally the air traffic controllers will radar plot an aircraft with an emerge
ncy AND call on other aircraft to shepherd. Yes, this means tasking potentially
another airline to abandon their route in order to ensure the safety of the susp
ect aircraft. At the same time, military aircraft would be launched to take over

the shepherding / SAR responsibility. This means that even if the xponder fails
(or is turned off), at least one person or agency knows EXACTLY where the aircr
aft is. Malaysia failed in every which way. They just did not know how to deal w
ith an emergency and then they stuck their heads in the sand further by abdicati
ng responsibility to the ongoing sector. The airline, the Malaysian air traffic
control and their inept Malaysian government are to blame for this debacle.
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PB, Atlanta, United States, 57 minutes ago
If I were looking for something in one place for two years and hadn't found it,
I would conclude I were looking in the wrong place, too. The intelligence is not
strong with this lot, is it?
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tynes, oxford, 7 hours ago
What an astounding intellectual ability ! >>>'If it's not there, it means it's s
omewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul Kennedy told Reuters. <<<
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YahooSeriousAUD16, Perth, Australia, 7 hours ago
Yep, I picked that up straight away too. Sounds like a ufo conspiracy plot now.
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No and Yes, London, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Stating the obvious.
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katiekicks, london, 2 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul K
ennedy told Reuters (My favourite quote of the week)
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Pilchard the cat, Up North, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
I think we need to conduct further research to test his theory!
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Henry Noel, Dover_Kent, United States, 2 hours ago
That's news to me. I wasn't in class the day they taught us this.
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Apostalypse, Birmingham, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
I'd be more surprised if they'd been looking in the right place. The right place
is clearly where the plane is.
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Muttsnuts, Edinburgh, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
How the frick can a plane with hundreds of people aboard just disappear in this
day and age without trace? If a vehicle gets stolen from my work they can find i
t anywhere on earth within minutes and even tell the route it has been and what
speed it was going.
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traleels, Brisbane, Australia, 4 hours ago
Have you seen the ocean? Very easily actually.
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AliceAbercrombie, Glasgow, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
Cue the Diego Garcia conspiracy theories. I've flown on a B777 several times and
am still wondering how easy it is to hide and camouflage an aircraft of that si
ze in some hangar on Diego Garcia, without arousing suspicion from the military
personnel on the island? If the plane did glide and sink in one piece, I only ho
pe none of the passengers were aware of what was happening.
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SN, UK, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
The relative must be going through an incredibly hard grieving period, not knowi
ng where their loved ones might be resting for eternity.
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Kieran1981, Kotu Beach, Gambia, 6 hours ago
Of course it didn't plummet straight down. If it had, that wing piece they found
would have been completely disintegrated.
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Anton Taiki, Georgetown Penang, Malaysia, 4 hours ago
At a cruising altitude of 40,000ft, a Boeing 777 can glide for about 210km witho
ut engines. A Boeing 747 can glide for about 170km or 20 minutes under favourabl
e conditions. This also depends on the weight, weather conditions etc. If there

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Cheesed-off, Contemplating navel fluff, Vanuatu, 2 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else...' No s__t Sherlock. If things
don't change, they'll stay as they are.... It's always like that sometimes.
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N Zymes, Liverpool, 2 hours ago
Yes ............... smart observation !
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karnie, Middlebury, United States, 7 hours ago
They should be able to find it more easily. It's not like the ocean is all that
deep or vast. Oh, wait, the oceans ARE both deep and vast. and vast.
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null, 4 hours ago
Lot of things going missing, passenger plane, navy ships, helicopters, is someon
e stocking up ?
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Stairs, London, 5 hours ago
It took the authorities weeks to find Egypt Air 804, and we knew within 50 miles
where it went down. This is a vast Ocean, with no radar tracking. I am not surp
rised they can not find it.
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lynda30, belfast, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
The leader of this project said" if it's not there it must be somewhere else" of
course it is somewhere else it hasnt been flipping abducted by aliens...even th
en.. it would still be somewhere else. These poor families they must be distraug
ht as it is obvious that no one has a clue where it is.
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Luke Skywalker, Tatooine, 6 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' No sheet sherlock!
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Scru the EU, Abu Dhabi, UAE, 6 hours ago

So it's still a mystery then.
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Kenny, Hong Kong, Hong Kong, 6 hours ago
Well bearing in mind that the Turkish Navy has "lost" 14 ships this week then ho
w can they find 1 aircraft two years after the event. I feel so sorry for the fa
milies of those still missing.
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UnSulliedIsBoss1025, New York City, United States, 51 minutes ago
Something shady obviously went down with this plane. Past two years people have
said theyre searching in the wrong spot as well.
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linda in oz, Toowoomba, Australia, 7 hours ago
Whatever happened, the relatives of all the passengers and staff are still going
through hell. What a disgrace in this day and age . It's simply not good enough
. When on earth are safety measures going to be mandatory in order that this nev
er happens again.
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bangna63, Preston, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul K
ennedy told Reuters Brilliant! now I know why I am not a program director!
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Gary, Croydon, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
I find it of great concern that these so called 'experts' can't work out what ha
s happened to a aircraft carrying over 200 people. They can't even find where it
is. I hope the Dutch firm employed to find it are not paid by the hour?
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cclubfinds, Sun City, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
Charge by daily rates. Innit!
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Rab, Glasgow, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago

They can send, direct and track satellites through space, but cannot find a plan
e on land or in the sea what a load of BS.
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Earwig O, North Yorkshire, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
I've said right from the start that whoever took that plane down put it down int
entionally in a place where they knew it would never being found again.
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RoryB, Banff, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
And we've said right from the start you're a frikkin' idiot. The suggestion is t
hat the plane glided in it's last moments of flight. Not that Secret Squirrel tr
ied to hide it.
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Earwig O, North Yorkshire, United Kingdom, 3 hours ago
Did I say that RoryB? No, I did not. In my opinion it was deliberately flown in
to the ocean by persons unknown. Not to hide it, but to destroy it, in the knowl
edge it would never be found again. By gliding it down, rather than diving, it w
ould be less likely to break up and create debris on the surface. If I were you
I'd practice your comprehension skills before you accuse others of being a frikk
in' idiot.
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Tumbleweed, Le Steppe-on-Sea., United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
Well what do you know, the company given the task of finding MH370 and who's con
tracting is nearing its end comes out tells us that they have been searching in
the wrong area for the duration of their contract, not only that, they have beco
me specialists in divining what happened to the aircraft that fateful night, the
y must be after another search contract.
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My Pointless Views, Portsmouth, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Why doesn't someone just come out and say they haven't got a clue where to look
and that it is almost certain it will never be found, only if someone happens to
come across it by chance ? All this time and money being wasted is just madness
.
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gkw, Leeds, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago

That's rather heartless. Spare a thought for the families of those still missing
before you call the search a waste of time.
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southerly1, Baku, Azerbaijan, 5 hours ago
Isnt technology wonderful all the kit and still speculation !
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Ptolemy, Preston, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Given that GPS positioning devices are cheap, reliable and readily available, I
am at a loss to understand why they are not fitted into aircraft independently o
f all other avionics, so as to give accurate positioning of the aircraft at all
times, mounted in a position within the aircraft not accessible to anyone except
ground engineers so they cannot be turned off in flight, powered by a small bac
k-up battery in case of power loss during descent. They would function until the
aircraft hit the water, which would give searchers a pin-point accurate positio
n to start looking.
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The_Common_Potato, The Field, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
Ptolemy: Sounds sensible, however, many pilots at Pprune (Professional Pilots' R
umour Network) are averse to the idea of ANY electric or electronic device that
cannot be isolated from within the cockpit.
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James of the Glen, Baie de Quiberon, Australia, 5 hours ago
Flumpo says it well. The "techno optimists" continually imagine planes have supe
r sophisticated transmitters to satellites which then re-transmit that data to g
round stations to plot positions. They don't. The closest is the Flight radar tr
ansmitters on planes which continually transmit position data, but over more rem
ote stretches of ocean there are no ground stations close enough to receive thos
e signals.
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jo, denver usa, 1 hour ago
The authorities don't seem to be giving notice to what various witnesses said th
ey saw in the sky that night. A flare/bright light in the sky, SW of where the p
lane took off from. Maybe it's time to listen to them and take them seriously. T
hey would have no axe to grind with the various governments involved. Time to st
art searching in that area. It seems more likely, given where the various bits o
f debris washed up.

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ldiot Proof, Tested on Labour, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Is finding reasons to search in different places the investigators' jobs for lif
e strategy now?
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Pilchard the cat, Up North, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
"Our company, despite being paid huge sums of money, hasn't found the aircraft s
o we'll just say it glided somewhere else so it's not our fault."
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Petunia, Timbuktu, United States, 1 hour ago
"And we can set it up so that there is hope the aircraft is there, just out of r
each, and you'll continue payng us to search for two more fruitless years." In s
pite of my cynicism , I do think a search should continue but maybe with differe
nt people doing the searching.
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sarah, york uk, 5 hours ago
@wonderland_zoo, Cardiff.........that's hardly the point is it? Can you imagine
a member of your family or a close friend being on that tragic flight? You'd cer
tainly want to get to the bottom of why they died, and yes, we all know it was i
n an aeroplane crash and there'll be little, if anything, left of the bodies, bu
t i'd want to know what made the damned thing crash in the first place. It's als
o how we improve safety or pilot training, by learning from tragic events like t
his, but we can't improve without finding the wreckage and trying to fit the pie
ces back together to best determine what went wrong. Please don't make heartless
comments as (most likely) fortunately for you, you aren't one of the loved ones
left behind with a million unanswered questions.
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jennifer, sydney, Australia, 4 hours ago
Pilot was a religious nut like many from Malay that killed all the passengers.
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Al_Capone, Brisbane, Australia, 6 hours ago
50 years from now they'll release the 'classified' files and the children of tod
ay will know what what really happened.
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atom47, liverpool, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago

Cannot imagine with all the spy, and commercial satellite's buzzing around up th
ere, " it must be like Piccadilly on a good day" and with telescopes in orbit th
at can see stars 100 million light years away, and all the muck we keep seeing o
n TV and Films of spy cameras in space the can see a gnat scratching his a*s, we
go and loose planes that are not exactly small are they, small world, but Big P
lanet?.
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Flumpo, Leeds, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
Because they are not pointed at an obscure location thousands of miles from land
let alone people. If you install cctv to monitor your house you don't put one o
f the cameras in your under stairs cupboard or inside your coal bunker.
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Red Squirrel, Warrington, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
The wife has just said "I bet they've only glanced at it, men don't look properl
y if a woman was there she'd find it"..lol
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NewGeneration, Aberdeen, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
'Rather than trying to find the needle, first we need to locate the haystack' Newgeneration 2016.
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theonlybrightonehere, a place you dream about, 7 hours ago
So you are actually expecting this to be the quote of the future? I heard it abo
ut 20 years ago!
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YouWish, Oslo, Norway, 2 hours ago
"If it's not there it means it's somewhere else". Really? Who would've possibly
thought of that?! Someone give the man a medal
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YaaBooSucks, Genuinely British, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
"...theyve been looking in the wrong place for two years." --------- I just knew
they were going to say that eventually!
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libbie, Cheltenham, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago

They really don`t seem to have a clue, do they ?
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Sandwiches, Space, South Georgia And The South Sandwich Islands, 6 hours ago
Considering we know more about the universe than we do about the ocean, it would
n't surprise me if it was never found.
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Theproff, zamzamram, Syria, 1 hour ago
If Malaysia had paid for the tracking service, Immaarsat would have known exactl
y where this aircraft was. The equipment was already installed as standard. But
Malaysia did not pay, and so Immaarsat did not track them. That is what you get,
if you book with the cheapest airline each time - you get what you pay for in t
he low-cost market.
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JimSA, Centurion, 1 hour ago
Don't blame Malasia. Blame those that diverted/hijacked it and took its secret c
argo that had been guarded by Navy Seals for weeks and that strangely died.
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Petunia, Timbuktu, United States, 1 hour ago
Perhaps Malaysia had a reason - $$$? - to not
er MH370 disappeared, if it ever will. But it
" a plane. Just a conspiracy theory, heh heh,
the secret cargo was taken, perhaps with the
nse Dept. Project.
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want Immaarsat installed until aft

would be a great way to help "lose
but one never knows. I still think
engineers who were working on Defe

Linda B, Skidby, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago

'The three governments have previously agreed that unless any new credible evide
nce arises the search would not be extended' Well there is new credible evidence
.....YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACE!!
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Old Iron, Levin, New Zealand, 3 hours ago
That's fairly obvious. What isn't obvious, is where the right place is. Apart fr
om all the usual crackpot conspiracy nonsense still getting kicked about the pla

ce despite having been disproven in the very early stages, there is no evidence
to support any of the realistic theories and searching all possibilities would t
ake a lifetime and cost several fortunes. So, your suggestion is .......? And wh
at information/calculations are you using in support .........?
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Linda B, Skidby, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
Did most of us NON experts not say this two years ago?!?
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Niko, Copenhagen, Denmark, 4 hours ago
Two years is a long time for family members not knowing what happened to their l
oved ones. RIP.
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as i see it, Bristol, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
''If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul
Kennedy told Reuters.' - Nothing gets by this bloke..
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Honeydee, In the big bad city, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
These so called experts would be not much use at doing Littlewoods Spot the Ball
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New Yorker, NYC, 2 hours ago
If you can't find something, anything...it's pretty obvious you have been lookin
g in the wrong place.
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dramaqueen, London, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
'If it's not there,it means it's somewhere else' ......priceless
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Aquarius , Auckland, New Zealand, 5 hours ago
Haha yes stating the obvious.
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Jon, Cardiff, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago

"'If it's not there, it means it's somewhere else,' Fugro project director Paul
Kennedy told Reuters." GENIUS !!!!!!!!!
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Lurch, Kenilworth - warwickshire, 3 hours ago
When they have the meeting of all the great minds to find a new solution, I real
ly hope they remember to invite Daily Mail readers who have all the answers.....
.
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jen67, Croix en ternois, France, 6 hours ago
The fact is they know too little too focus the search..it must be soul destroyin
g for relatives.outsource to anyone who can put relevant skills towards a conclu
sion.
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Jasmine, London, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
What an absolute joke this whole thing has been, and now if it's not there it's
somewhere else, no s&t Sherlock! Are they being paid for this debacle!
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Ruthie xx, Northampton, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
Of course they're looking in the wrong place... if they were, they'd have found
it by now!
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kagey3, Grimsby, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
In reality they just haven't got a clue !! Very sad for the people that a waitin
g for an answer .
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Petunia, Timbuktu, United States, 1 hour ago
Truly. I feel terribly for them. One would always, always wonder where their lov
ed one was. Heartbreaking.
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Sarah, London, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago

What's all that debris in the DM's pictures from then? Did they establish that i
t's not MH370?
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