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WORLD H I L L A R Y C L I N TO N DONALD TRUMP

HereisthetranscriptofthesecondUSpresidentialdebateheldlivefromStLouis,Missouri.

Raddatz:Goodevening.I'mMarthaRaddatzfromABCnews.

Cooper:AndI'mAndersonCooperfromCNN,wewanttowelcomeyoutoWashingtonUniversityinSt.Louisforthesecond
presidentialdebatebetweenHillaryClintonandDonaldTrumpsponsoredbytheCommissiononpresidentialdebates.Tonight's
debateisatownhallformatwhichgivesvotersthechancetodirectlyaskthecandidatesquestions.MarthaandIwillaskfollowup
questionsbutthenightreallybelongstothepeopleinthisroomandtopeopleacrossthecountrywhocommittedquestionsonline.
ThepeopleyouseeonthisstagewerechosenbytheGalluporganization,areallfromtheSt.LouisareaandtoldGalluptheyhave
notcommittedtoacandidate.Eachofthemcameherewithquestionstheywantedtoaskandwesawthequestionsforthefirsttime
thismorning.AndersonandIandourteamfromABCandCNNaretheonlyoneswhohaveseenthem.Bothcandidateswillhave
twominutestoanswereachaudienceandonlinequestionwehopetogettoasmanyquestionsaswecan.Weaskedtheaudiencenot
toslowthingsdownwithanyapplause,exceptfornow.Ladiesandgentlemen,theRepublicannomineeforpresident,DonaldJ.
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Trumpandthedemocraticnomineeforpresident,HillaryClinton.

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Cooper:Thankyouverymuchforbeinghere.Wewillbeginwithaquestionfromoneofthemembersinourtownhall.Eachofyou
willhavetwominutestorespondtothisquestion.SecretaryClinton,youwonthecointosssoyoullgofirst.Ourfirstquestion
comesfrompatriceBrock.Patrice?

Brock:Thankyouandgoodevening.ThelastpresidentialdebatecouldhavebeenratedasMA,matureaudiencesperTVparental
guidelines.Knowingthateducatorsassignviewingthepresidentialdebatesasstudentshomework,doyoufeelyouaremodelling
appropriateandpositivebehaviorfortodaysyouth?

Clinton:Thankyou.Areyouateacher?Yes,Ithinkthat'saverygoodquestionbecauseIheardfromlotsofteachersandparents
aboutsomeofourconcernsaboutsomeofthethingsbeingsaidanddoneinthiscampaign.AndIthinkitisveryimportantforusto
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makecleartoourchildrenthatourcountryreallyisgreatbecausewearegood.Andwearegoingtorespectoneanother,lifteach
otherup.Wearegoingtobelookingforwaystocelebrateourdiversityandwearegoingtotrytoreachouttoeveryboyandgirlas
wellaseveryadulttobringthemintoworkingonbehalfofourcountry.Ihaveapositiveandoptimisticviewofwhatwecando
together.Thatswhythesloganofmycampaignisstrongertogether.BecauseIthinkifweworktogether,ifweovercomethe
divisivenessthatsometimessetsAmericansagainstoneanotherandinsteadwemakesomebiggoalsandIvesetforthsomebig
goals,gettingtheeconomytoworkforeveryone,notjustthoseatthetop.Makingsurewehavethebesteducationfrompreschool
throughcollegeandmakingitaffordableandsomuchelse.Ifwesetthosegoalsandwegotogethertotrytoachievethem,thereis
nothing,inmyopinion,Americacan'tdo.Ihopewewillallcometogetherinthiscampaign.ObviouslyI'mhopingtoearnyourvote,
ImhopingtobeelectedinNovemberandIcanpromiseyouIwillworkwitheveryAmerican.Iwanttobethepresidentforall
Americansregardlessofyourpoliticalbeliefs,whatyoulooklike,yourreligion.Iwantustohealourcountryandbringittogether.
Becausethat's,Ithink,thebestwaytogetthefuturethatourchildrenandgrandchildrendeserve.

Cooper:Mr.Trumpyouhavetwominutes.

Trump:WellIllactuallyagreewiththat.Iagreewitheverythingshesaid.IbeganthiscampaignbecauseIwassotiredofseeing
suchfoolishthingshappentoourcountry.Thisisagreatcountry.Thisisagreatland.Ihavegottentoknowthepeopleofthe
countryoverthelastyearandahalfthatIhavebeendoingthisasapolitician.IcannotbelieveI'msayingthataboutmyself,butI
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guessIhavebeenapolitician.AndmywholeconceptwastomakeAmericagreatagain.WhenIwatchthedealsbeingmade.WhenI
watchwhat'shappeningwithsomehorriblethingslikeObamacarewhereyourhealthinsuranceandhealthcareisgoingupby
numbersthatareastronomical:68%,59%,71%.WhenIlookattheIrandealandhowbadadealitisforus,itsaonesided
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transaction,whereweregivingback$150billiontoaterroriststate,reallythenumberoneterroriststate,wevemadethemastrong
countryfrom,really,averyweakcountryjustthreeyearsago.WhenIlookatallofthethingsthatIseeandallofthepotentialthat
ourcountryhas,wehavesuchtremendouspotential.Whetherit'sinbusinessandtrade,wherewearedoingsobadly.Lastyearwe
hadanalmost$800billiontradedeficit.Inotherwords,tradingwithothercountries.Wehadan$800billiondeficit.Itshardto

believe.Inconceivable.Yousaywhosmakingthesedeals?Weregoingtomakegreattradedeals,weregoingtohaveastrong
border,weregoingtobringbacklawandorder.Justtoday,policemanwasshot.Twokilled.Andthisishappeningonaweekly
basis.Wehavetobringbackrespecttolawenforcement.Atthesametimewehavetotakecakeofpeopleonallsides.Weneed
justice.ButIwanttodothingsthathaventbeendone,includingfixingandmakingourinnercitiesbetterfortheAfricanAmerican
citizensthataresogreatandfortheLatinos,hispanics,andIlookingforwardtodoingItscalledmakeAmericagreatagain.
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Cooper:ThankyouMr.Trump.ThequestionfromPatricewasaboutAreyoubothmodelingpositiveandappropriatebehaviors
fortoday'syouth?Wereceivedalotofquestionsonline,Mr.TrumpaboutthetapethatwasreleasedonFriday,asyoucanimagine.
Youcalledwhatyousaidlockerroombanter.Youdescribedkissingwomenwithoutconsent,grabbingtheirgenitals.Thatissexual
assault.Youbraggedthatyouhavesexuallyassaultedwomen.Doyouunderstandthat?

Trump:No,Ididntsaythatatall.Idon'tthinkyouunderstoodwhatwassaid.Thiswaslockerroomtalk.Iamnotproudofit.I
apologizetomyfamily,IapologizedtotheAmericanpeople.Certainly,Iamnotproudofit.Butthisislockerroomtalk.Youknow,
whenwehaveaworldwhereyouhaveISISchoppingoffheads,whereyouhavethem,frankly,drowningpeopleinsteelcages,where
youhavewarsandhorrible,horriblesightsalloverandyouhavesomanybadthingshappening,thisislikemedievaltimes.We
haventseenanythinglikesthis.Thecarnageallovertheworldandtheylookandtheysee,canyouimaginethepeoplethatare
franklydoingsowellagainstuswithISISandtheylookatourcountryandseewhat'sgoingon.Yes,Iamveryembarrassedbyitand
Ihateit,butit'slockerroomtalkanditsoneofthosethings.IwillknockthehelloutofISIS.WearegoingtodefeatISIS.ISIS
happenedanumberofyearsagoinavacuumthatwasleftbecauseofbadjudgment.AndIwilltellyou,IwilltakecareofISIS.We
needtogetontomuchmoreimportantandbiggerthings.

Cooper:Fortherecord,areyousayingthatwhatyousaidonthebus11yearsago,thatyoudidnotactuallykisswomenwithout
consentorgropewomenwithoutconsent?
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Trump:Ihavegreatrespectforwomen.NobodyhasmorerespectforwomenthanIdo.

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Trump:Frankly,youhearthesethings.Theyaresaid.AndIwasamembarrassedbyit.ButIhaverespectforwomen

Cooper:Haveyoueverdonethosethings?

Trump:Andtheyhaverespectforme.AndIwilltellyou,noIhavenot.AndIwilltellyou,thatImgoingtomakeourcountry
safeandweregoingtohaveborderswhichwedon'thavenow.Peoplearepouringintoourcountryandtheyrecominginfromthe
MiddleEastandotherplaces.WeregonnamakeAmericasafeagain,weregonnamakeAmericagreatagainbutweregonnamake
AmericasafeagainandweregonnamakeAmericawealthyagain.Becauseifyoudon'tdothat,itjust,itsoundsharshtosay,butwe
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havetobuildupthewealthofournation.Othernationsaretakingourjobandtheyretakingourwealth.

Cooper:Thankyouverymuch.SecretaryClinton,doyouwanttorespond?

Clinton:Well,likeeveryoneelse,Ivespentalotoftimethinkingoverthelast48hoursaboutwhatweheardandsaw.Youknow,
withpriorRepublicannomineesforpresident,Idisagreedwiththemonpolitics,policies,principles,butIneverquestionedtheir
fitnesstoserve.DonaldTrumpisdifferent.IsaidstartingbackinJunethathewasnotfittobepresidentandcommanderinchief.
AndmanyRepublicansandindependentshavesaidthesamething.WhatweallsawandheardonFridaywasDonaldtalkingabout
women,whathethinksaboutwomen,whathedoestowomen,andhehassaidthatthevideodoesntrepresentwhoheis.ButI
thinkit'scleartoanyonewhoheardit,thatitrepresentsexactlywhoheis.Becausewehaveseenthisthroughoutthecampaign.We
haveseenhiminsultwomen.Wehaveseenhimratewomenontheirappearance,rankingthemfromonetoten,weveseenhim
embarrasswomenonTVandonTwitter.Wesawhimafterthefirstdebate,spendnearlyaweekdenigratingaformermissuniverse
intheharshest,mostpersonalterms.So,yes,thisiswhoDonaldTrumpis.Butit'snotonlywomenanditsnotonlythisvideothat
raisesquestionsabouthisfitnesstobeourpresident.Becausehehasalsotargetedimmigrants,AfricanAmericans,Latinos,people
withdisabilities,POWs,Muslimsandsomanyothers.SothisiswhoDonaldTrumpis.Andthequestionforus,thequestionour
countrymustansweristhatthisisnotwhoweare.That'swhytogobacktoyourquestion,Iwanttosendamessage.Weallshould,
toeveryboyandgirlandindeed,totheentireworld.ThatAmericaalreadyisgreat,butwearegreatbecausewearegood.Andwe
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willrespectoneanotherandwewillworkwithoneanotherandwewillcelebrateourdiversity.Theseareveryimportantvaluesto
mebecausethisistheAmericathatIknowandlove.AndIcanpledgetoyoutonightthatthisistheAmericathatIwillserveifI'm
sofortunateenoughtobecomeyourpresident.
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Raddatz:Wewanttogettosomequestions.

Trump:Idliketorespondtothat.IassumeIcan.

Raddatz:Yes,youcanrespondtothat.

Trump:It'sjustwords,folks.It'sjustwords.Thesewords,Ihavebeenhearingformanyyears.Iheardthemwhentheywere
runningfortheSenateinNewYorkwhereHillarywasgoingtobringbackjobstoupstateNewYorkandshefailed.Iveheardthem
whereHillaryisconstantlytalkingabouttheinnercitiesofourcountrywhichareadisastereducationwise,jobwise,safetywise,in
everywaypossible.ImgoingtohelptheAfricanAmericans,ImgoingtohelptheLatinos,hispanics.Iamgoingtohelptheinner
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cities.ShehasdoneaterriblejobfortheAfricanAmericans.Shewantstheirvoteandshedoesnothing.Andthenshecomesback
fouryearslater,wesawthatfirsthandwhenshesawUnitedStatessenator,shecampaignedwhere

Raddatz:Mr.Trump,Mr.Trump,Iwanttogettoaudiencequestionsandonlinequestions.

Trump:Sheisallowedtodothat,butI'mnot?Soundsfair,soundsfair.

Raddatz:Youwillgettorespondrightnow.Thistapeisgeneratingintenseinterest.Injust48hoursithasbecomethesinglemost
talkedaboutstoryoftheentire2016electiononFacebookwithmillionsandmillionsofpeoplediscussingitonthesocialnetwork.
Aswesaidamomentago,wedowanttobringinquestionsfromvotersaroundthecountryviasocialmedia.Andourfirststayson
thistopic.JefffromOhioasksonFacebook,Trumpsaysthecampaignhaschangedhim.Whendidthathappen?SoMr.Trump,let
meaddtothat,whenyouwalkedoffthatbusatage59,wereyouadifferentmanordidthatbehaviorcontinueuntiljustrecently?
Andyouhavetwominutesforthis.

Trump:Thatwaslockerroomtalk.I'mnotproudofit.Iamapersonwhohasgreatrespectforpeople,formyfamily,forthe
peopleofthiscountryandcertainlyIamnotproudofit,butthatwassomethingthathappened.IfyoulookatBillClinton,far
worse.Minearewordsandhiswasaction.Hiswords,whathehasdonetowomen.Theresneverbeenanybodyinthehistoryof
politicsinthisnationthathasbeensoabusivetowomen.Soyoucansayanywayyouwanttosayit,butBillClintonisabusiveto
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women.HillaryClintonattackedthosesamewomen,andattackedthemviciously,fourofthemheretonight.Oneofthewomen,
whoisawonderfulwomanat12yearsoldwasraped.At12.Herclient,sherepresented,gothimoffandsheisseenlaughingontwo
occasionslaughingatthegirlwhowasraped.KathyShelton,thatyoungwoman,isherewithustonight.Sodon'ttellmeabout
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words.Iam,absolutely,Iapologizeforthosewords,butitisthingsthatpeoplesay,butwhatPresidentClintondid,hewas
impeached,helosthislicensetopracticelaw,hehadtopayan$850,000finetooneofthewomen.PaulaJoneswhoisalsohere

tonight.AndIwilltellyouthatwhenHillarybringsupapointlikethatandshetalksaboutwordsthatIsaid11yearsago,Ithinkit's
disgracefulandIthinksheshouldbeashamedofherself,ifyouwanttoknowthetruth.

Raddatz:Pleaseholdtheapplause.SecretaryClinton,youhavetwominutes.

Clinton:Well,firstletmestartbysayingthatsomuchofwhathejustsaidisnotright,buthegetstorunhiscampaignanywayhe
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chooses.Hegetstodecidewhathewantstotalkaboutinsteadofansweringpeople'squestions,talkingaboutouragenda,layingout
theplansthatwehavethatwethinkcanmakeabetterlifeandabettercountry.That'shischoice.WhenIhearsomethinglikethat,I
amremindedofwhatmyfriendMichelleObamaadvisedusall.Whentheygolow,yougohigh.

(Applause)

Andlook,ifthiswerejustaboutonevideo,maybewhatheissayingtonightwouldbeunderstandable.Buteveryonecandrawtheir
ownconclusionsatthispointaboutwhetherornotthemaninthevideoorthemanonthestagerespectswomen.Buthenever
apologizesforanythingtoanyone.HeneverapologizedtoMr.AndMrs.Khan,thegoldstarfamilywhoseson,CaptainKhandiedin
thelineofdutyinIraqandDonaldinsultedandattackedthemforweeksovertheirreligion.Heneverapologizedtothe
distinguishedfederaljudgewhowasborninIndiana,butDonaldsaidhecouldn'tbetrustedtobeajudgebecausehisparentswere
"Mexican."Heneverapologizedtothereporterthathemimickedandmockedonnationaltelevisionandourchildrenwere
watching.AndheneverapologizedfortheracistliethatPresidentObamawasnotbornintheUnitedStatesofAmerica.Heowesthe
presidentanapologyandheowesourcountryanapologyandheneedstotakeresponsibilityforhisactionsandhiswords.

Trump:Wellyouowethepresidentanapologybecauseasyouknowverywell,yourcampaign,SidneyBlumenthal,hesanother
realwinnerthatyouhaveandhestheonethatgotthisstartedalongwithyourcampaignmanagerandtheywereontelevisionjust
twoweeksago,shewassayingexactlythat.Soyoureallyowehimanapology.Youretheonethatsentthepicturesaround,your
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campaignsentthepicturesaroundwithPresidentObamainacertaingarb,thatwaslongbeforeIwaseverinvolved.Soyouactually
oweanapology.Numbertwo,MichelleObama.IvegottentoseethecommercialsthattheydidonyouandtheIvegottentosee
someofthemostviciouscommercialsIveeverseen,ofMichelleObamatalkingaboutyou,Hillary.Soyoutalkaboutframed,go
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backandtakealookatthosecommercials.Aracewhereyoulost,fairandsquare,unliketheBernieSandersracewhereyouwon,
butnotfairandsquare,inmyopinionandallyouhavetodoistakealookatWikiLeaksandjustseewhattheysaidaboutBernie
SandersandseewhatDebraWassermanSchultzhadinmind,becauseBernieSanders,betweensuperdelegatesandDebra

WassermanSchultz,heneverhadachanceandIwassosurprisedtoseehimsignonwiththedevil.Butwhenwetalkaboutapology,
Ithinktheonethatyoushouldreallybeapologizingfor,thethingthatyoushouldbeapologizingforarethe33,000emailsthatyou
deletedandthatyouacidwashedandthetwoboxesofemailsandotherthingslastweekthatweretakenfromanofficeandarenow
missing.AndItellyouwhat,Ididn'tthinkIwouldsaythis,butI'mgoingtoandIhatetosayit.ButifIwin,Iamgoingtoinstruct
myattorneygeneraltogetaspecialprosecutortolookintoyoursituation.Becausetherehasneverbeensomanylies,somuch
deception.Therehasneverbeenanythinglikeit.Andweregonnahaveaspecialprosecutor.WhenIspeak,Igooutandspeak,the
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peopleofthiscountryarefurious.Inmyopinion,thepeoplethathavebeenlongtimeworkersattheFBIarefurious.Therehas
neverbeenanythinglikethiswhereemails,andyougetasubpoena.Yougetasubpoena,andaftergettingthesubpoenayoudelete
33,000emailsandthenyouacidwashthemorbleachthem,asyouwouldsay.Veryexpensiveprocess.Soweregonnagetaspecial
prosecutorandweregonnalookintoit.Becauseyouknowwhat,peoplehavebeentheirliveshavebeendestroyedfordoing1/5of
whatyouhavedone.Anditsadisgrace,andhonestly,yououghtabeashamedofyourself.

Raddatz:SecretaryClinton,Iwillletyourespond.

Clinton:Everythinghejustsaidisabsolutelyfalse,butImnotsurprised.Inthefirstdebate,Itoldpeopleitwouldbeimpossibleto
befactcheckingDonaldallthetime.IwouldnevergettotalkaboutanythingIdwanttodoandhowwerereally,goingtoreally,
makelivesbetterforpeople.Soonceagain,gotoHillaryclinton.com.WehaveliterallyTrumpyoucanfactcheckhiminrealtime.
Lasttimeatthefirstdebate,wehadmillionsofpeoplefactcheckingsoIexpectwewillhavemillionsmorefactcheckingbecause,
youknow,it'sjustawfullygoodthatsomeonewiththetemperamentofDonaldTrumpisnotinchargeofthelawinourcountry.

Trump:Becauseyouwouldbeinjail.

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Cooper:Wewanttoremindtheaudiencetopleasenottalkoutloud.Pleasedonotapplaud.Youarejustwastingtime.

Raddatz:AndSecretaryClinton,Idowanttofollowuponemails.Youvesaidyourhandlingofyouremailswasamistake,youve
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disagreedwiththeFBIDirectorJamesComeycallingyourhandlingofclassifiedinformationextremelycareless.TheFBIsaid
therewere110classifiedemailswhichwereexchanged,eightofwhichweretopsecretanditwaspossiblehostileactorsdidgain
accesstothoseemails.Youdon'tcallthatextremelycareless?

Clinton:Well,Martha,firstletmesay,andIsaiditbeforebutIwillrepeatitbecauseIwanteveryonetohearit.Thatwasamistake
andItakeresponsibilityforusingapersonalemailaccount.Obviously,ifIweretodoitoveragain,Iwouldnot.Iamnotmaking
anyexcuses,itwasamistake.AndIamverysorryaboutthat,butIthinkit'salsoimportanttopointoutwheretherearesome
misleadingaccusationsfromcriticsandothers.Afterayearlonginvestigation,thereisnoevidencethatanyonehackedtheserverI
wasusingandthereisnoevidencethatanyonecanpointtoatall,anyonewhosaysotherwisehasnobasis,thatanyclassified
materialsendedupinthewronghands.Itakeclassifiedmaterialsveryseriouslyandalwayshave.WhenIwasontheSenateArmed
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ServicesCommittee,Iwasprivytoalotofclassifiedmaterial.Obviously,assecretaryofstateIhadsomeofthemostimportant
secretsthatwepossess,suchasgoingafterBinLaden.So,IamverycommittedtotakingclassifiedinformationseriouslyandasI
said,thereisnoevidencethatanyclassifiedinformationendedupinthewronghands.

Trump:Andyetshedidn'tknowtheword,theletterConadocument.Right?Shedidn'tevenknowwhatthatlettermeant.You
know,it'samazing.I'mwatchingHillarygooverfactsandsheisgoingafterfactafterfactandsheslyingagainbecauseshesaidshe,
youknow,whatshedidwithemailswasfine.Youthinkitwasfinetodelete33,000emails?Idon'tthinkso.Shesaidthat33,000
emailshadtodowithherdaughter'swedding,numberoneandayogaclass.Well,maybewewillgivethreeorthreeorfourorfiveor
something.33,000emailsdeletedandnowshessayingtherewasntanythingwrong.Andmoreimportantly,thatwasaftergettinga
subpoena.Thatwasntbefore.Thatwasafter.ShegotitfromtheUnitedStatesCongress,andIwillbehonest.Iamsodisappointed
incongressmen,includingRepublicans,forallowingthistohappen.OurJusticeDepartmentwhereherhusbandgoesontotheback
ofanairplanefor39minutes,talkstotheAttorneyGeneraldaysbeforearulinghastobemadeonhercase.Butforyoutosaythat
therewasnothingwrongwithyoudeleting39,000emails,again,youshouldbeashamedofyourself.Whatyoudid,nowthiswas
aftergettingasubpoenafromtheUnitedStatesCongress

Cooper:Wehavetomoveon.SecretaryClintonyougettorespond,thenwehavetomoveon.

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Trump:Holdon,waitaminute,ifamemberoftheprivatesectordidthat,theydbeinjail.Letalone,aftergettingasubpoena
fromtheUnitedStatesCongress.

Cooper:SecretaryClinton,yougettorespondthenwehavetomoveontoaaudiencequestion. Couldn'tloadplugin.

Clinton:It'sjustnottrue.

Trump:Youdidn'tdeletethem?

Clinton:Theywerepersonalemailsandnotofficial.Weturnedover35,000.

Trump:Whatareabouttheother15,000.

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Cooper:Pleaseallowhertorespond.Shedidn'ttalkwhileyoutalked.

Clinton:Yes,that'strue.Ididn't.

Trump:Becauseyouhadnothingtosay.

Clinton:IdidntinthefirstdebateandImgonnatrynottoonthisdebatebecauseIwouldliketogettothequestionspeople
broughttoustonight.

Trump:Andgetoffthisquestion.

Clinton:Okay,Donald.Iknowyouareintobigdiversiontonight,anythingtoavoidtalkingaboutyourcampaignandthewayits
exploding,andthewayRepublicansareleavingyou,but

Trump:Letsseewhathappens.

Cooper:Letherrespond.

Clinton:Letsgettotheissuesthatpeoplecareabouttonight.Let'sgettotheirquestion.
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Anderson:WehaveaquestionherefromKenKarpowitz,itsaquestionabouthealthcare.

Trump:IdlikedtoknowAnderson,Whyaren'tyoubringinguptheemails?Idliketoknow. Couldn'tloadplugin.

Cooper:Webroughtuptheemails.

Trump:Noithasnt,ithasntandithasn'tbeenfinishedatall.

Cooper:KenKarpowitzhasaquestion.

Trump:Oneonthree.

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Karpowicz:TheAffordableCareActknownasObamacare,itisnotaffordable.Premiumshavegoneup,deductibleshavegoneup,
copayshasgoneup,prescriptionshavegoneupandthecoveragehasgonedown.Whatwillyoudotobringthecostdownandmake
coveragebetter?

Cooper:ThatfirstonegoestosecretaryClinton.Youstartedoutthelastonetotheaudience.

Clinton:Hewantstostartit,hecanstartit.No,goahead,Donald.

Trump:No,I'magentlemen,Hillary.Goahead.

Cooper:SecretaryClinton.

Clinton:IthinkDonaldwasabouttosayhesgonnasolveitbyrepealingitandgettingridoftheAffordableCareAct.AndI'm
goingtofixitbecauseIagreewithyou.Premiumshavegottentoohigh,copays,deductibles,prescriptiondrugcostsandIhavelaid
outaseriesofactionsthatwecantaketotrytogetthosecostsdown.Buthere'swhatIdon'twantpeopletoforgetwhenwere
talkingaboutreigninginthecostthathastobethehighestpriorityofthenextpresident.Whentheaffordablecareactpassed,it
wasn'tjustthat20millionpeoplegotinsurancewhodidn'thaveitbefore.Butthat,inandofitselfisagoodthing.Imeetthese
peopleallthetimeandtheytellmewhatadifferencehavingthatinsurancemeanttothemandtheirfamilies.Buteverybodyelse,
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the170millionofuswhogethealthinsurancethroughouremployersgotbigbenefits.Numberone,insurancecompaniescan'tdeny
youcoveragebecauseofapreexistingcondition.Numbertwo,nolifetimelimitswhichisabigdealifyouhaveserioushealth
problems.Numberthree,womencan'tbechargedmorethanmenforourhealthinsurance,whichisthewayitusedtobebeforethe
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affordablecareact.Numberfour,ifyouareunder26andyourparentshaveapolicy,youcanbeonthatpolicyuntiltheageof26,
somethingthatdidn'thappenbefore.SoIwantverymuchtosavewhatworksandisgoodabouttheaffordablecareact.Butweve
gottogetcostsdown,wevegottoprovidesomeadditionalhelptosmallbusinessessothattheycanaffordtoprovidehealth
insurance.ButifwerepealitasDonaldhasproposedandstartoveragain,allofthosebenefitsImentionedarelosttoeverybody.

Notjustpeoplewhogethealthinsuranceontheexchange.Andthenwewouldhavetostartalloveragain.Rightnowweareat90%
healthinsurancecoverage.That'sthehighestwehaveeverbeen,inourcountry.Iwanttogetto100%andgetcostdownandquality
up.

Cooper:SecretaryClinton,youareoutoftime.Mr.Trump,Youhavetwominutes.
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Trump:ItissuchagreatquestionanditsmaybethequestionIgetalmost,morethananythingelse.Outsideofdefense.
Obamacareisadisaster.Youknowit,weallknowit.It'sgoingupatnumbersthatnobodyseverseen,worldwide.Itsnobodyhas
everseennumberslikethisforhealthcare.It'sonlygettingworse.In17,itimplodesbyitself.Theirmethodoffixingitistogoback
andaskCongressformoremoney.More,moremoneyandwehaverightnowalmost$20trillionindebt.Obamacarewillnever
work.Itsverybad,verybadhealthinsurance,fartooexpensive,andnotonlyexpensiveforthepersonthathasit,unbelievably
expensiveforourcountry.Itsgoingtobeoneofthebiggestlineitemsveryshortly.Wehavetorepealitandreplaceitwith
somethingabsolutelymuchlessexpensive.Andsomethingthatworks,whereyourplancanactuallybetailored.Wehavetogetrid
ofthelinesaroundthestate,artificiallines,wherewestopinsurancecompaniesfromcominginandcompetingbecausethey
wantedPresidentObamaandwhoeverwasworkingonit,theywanttoleavethoselinesbecausethatgivestheinsurancecompanies,
essentiallymonopolies.Wewantcompetition.Youwillhavethefinesthealthcareplanthereis.Shewantstogotoasingleplayer
planwhichwouldbeadisaster.SomewhatsimilartoCanada.Ifyouevernoticed,theCanadians,whentheyneedabigoperation,
whensomethinghappens,theycomeintotheUnitedStatesinmanycases.Becausetheirsystemissoslow,it'scatastrophicin
certainways.Butshewantstogotosinglepayer,whichmeansthegovernmentbasicallyruleseverything.HillaryClintonhasbeen
afterthisforyears.Obamacarewasthefirststep,Obamacareisatotaldisasterandnotonlyareyourratesgoingupbynumbersthat
nobodyseverbelieved,butyourdeductiblesaregoingup.Sothatunlessyougethitbyatruck,youwillneverbeabletouseit.It'sa
disastrousplanandithastoberepealedandreplaced.

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Cooper:SecretaryClinton,letmefollowupwithyou,yourhusbandcalledObamacarethecraziestthingintheworld,saying
smallbusinessownersaregettingkilled,premiumsdoubled,coverageiscutinhalf.Washemistakenorwashismistakesimply
tellingthetruth?
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Clinton:No.Imean,heclarifiedwhathemeantanditsveryclear.Look,weareinasituationinourcountrywhereifwewereto
startalloveragain,wemightcomeupwithadifferentsystem.Butwehaveanemployerbasedsystem:thatswherethevast
majorityofpeoplegettheirhealthcare.Andtheaffordablecareactismeanttotrytofillthegapbetweenpeoplewhoaretoopoor

andcouldntputtogetheranyresourcestoaffordhealthcare,namelypeopleonmedicaid.Obviously,Medicarewhichisasingle
payersystemwhichtakescareofourelderly,anddoesagreatjobdoingit,bytheway,andthenallthepeoplewhowereemployed,
butpeoplewhowereworkingbutdidn'thavethemoneytoaffordinsuranceanddidnthaveanybody,anemployeroranybodyelse
tohelpthem.ThatwastheslotthattheObamacareapproachwastotake.AndlikeIsay,20millionpeoplenowhavehealth
insurance.So,ifweripitupandthrowitaway,whatDonaldisnottellingyouisweturnitbacktotheinsurancecompaniestheway
itusedtobe.Andthatmeansthatinsurancecompaniesgettodoprettymuchwhatevertheywantincludingsayinglook,I'msorry,
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youhavediabetes,youhadcancer

Cooper:Yourtimeisup

Clinton:Yourchildhadasthma,youmaynotbeabletohaveinsurancebecauseyoucan'taffordit.Solet'sfixwhat'sbroken
aboutit,butletsnotthrowitawayandgiveitbacktotheinsurancecompanies.That'snotgoingtowork.

Cooper:Mr.Trump,letmejustfollowup

Trump:Iwanttojustonething.Hillary,everythingisbrokenaboutit.Everything.Numbertwo,BernieSanderssaidHillary
Clintonhasverybadjudgment.Thisisaperfectexampleofit.TryingtosaveObamacare

Cooper:Mr.Trump,youvesaidyouwanttoendObamacare,youvealsosaidyouwanttomakecoverageaccessibleforpeople
withpreexistingconditions.Howdoyouforceinsurancecompaniestodothatifyouarenotmandatingthateveryonehas
insurance?

Trump:Youregoingtohaveplans.

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competitionintheinsuranceindustry,oncewebreakoutthelinesandallowthecompetitiontocome.

Cooper:AreyougoingtohaveamandatethatAmericanshavetohavehealthinsurance?

Trump:Excuseme.PresidentObamabykeepingthoselines,theboundarylinesaroundeachstateanditwasalmostdoneuntil
justtowardstheendofthepassageofObamacare.Whichbythewaywasafraud.Youknowthat.BecauseJonathanGrouper,the
architectofObamacarewassaid,hesaiditwasagreatlie,itwasabiglie.PresidentObamasaidyoukeepyourdoctor,keepyour
plan.Thewholethingwasafraudanditdoesn'twork.Butwhenwegetridofthoselines,youhavecompetitionandwewillbeable
tokeeppreexisting,wellalsobeabletohelppeoplethatcan'tget,don'thavemoneybecausewearegoingtohavepeopleprotected.
AndRepublicansfeelthisway.Believeitornot,weregoingtoblockgrantintothestatesweregoingtoblockgrantintomedicaidso
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wewillbeabletotakecareofpeoplewithoutthenecessaryfundstocakecareofthemselves.

Cooper:ThankyouMr.Trump.

Raddatz:WegotoGorbahHameedforaquestionforbothcandidates.

Hamed:Hi.Thereare3.3millionMuslimsintheUnitedStatesandI'moneofthem.YouvementionedworkingwithMuslim
nations.ButwithIslamophobiaontherise,howwillyouhelppeoplelikemedealwiththeconsequencesofbeinglabelledasathreat
tothecountryaftertheelectionisover?

Raddatz:Mr.Trump,yourefirst.

Trump:YouarerightaboutIslamophobiaandthat'sashame.Butonethingwehavetodois,wehavetomakesurethat,because
thereisaproblem.Imean,whetherwelikeitornotandwecanbepoliticallycorrect,butwhetherwelikeitornot,thereisa
problem.AndwehavetobesurethatMuslimscomeinandreportwhentheyseesomethinggoingon.Whentheyseehatredgoing
on,theyhavetoreportit.AstheexampleinSanBernardino.Manypeoplesawthebombsallovertheapartmentofthetwopeople
thatkilled14andwoundedmany,manypeople.Horriblywounded,theywillneverbethesame.Muslimshavetoreportthe
problemswhentheyseethem.And,youknow,thereisalwaysareasonforeverything.Iftheydon'tdothat,it'saverydifficult
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situationforourcountry.BecauseyoulookatOrlandoandyoulookatSanBernardinoandyoulookattheWorldTradeCenter.Go
outsideandyoulookatParis,lookatthathorriblething.TheseareradicalIslamicterroristsandshewon'tevenmentiontheword
andnorwillPresidentObama.Hewon'tusethetermradicalIslamicterrorist,no.Tosolveaproblemyouhavetobeabletostate
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whattheproblemisoratleast,saythename.Shewon'tsaythenameandPresidentObamawon'tsaythename.Butthenameis
there.It'sradicalIslamicterror.Andbeforeyousolveit,youhavetosaythename.

Raddatz:SecretaryClinton.

Clinton:ThankyouforaskingyourquestionandIveheardthisquestionfromalotofMuslimAmericansacrossourcountry.
Becauseunfortunatelytherehasbeenalotofverydivise,darkthingssaidaboutMuslims.AndevensomeonelikeCaptainKhan,the
youngmanwhosacrificedhimselfdefendingourcountryintheUnitedStatesArmyhasbeensubjecttoattackbyDonald.Iwantto
sayjustacoupleofthings.First:WevehadMuslimsinAmericasinceGeorgeWashington.AndwevehadmanysuccessfulMuslims.
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WejustlostaparticularlywellknownonewithMuhammadAli.MyvisionofAmericaisanAmericawhereeveryonehasaplace,if
youarewillingtoworkhard,doyourpartandyoucontributetothecommunity.That'swhatAmericais.That'swhatwewant
Americatobeforourchildrenandourgrandchildren.It'salsoveryshortsightedandevendangeroustobeengaginginthekindof
demagogicrhetoricthatDonaldhasaboutMuslims.WeneedAmericanMuslimstobepartofoureyesandearsonourfrontlawns.
IveworkedwithalotofMuslimgroupsaroundAmerica.IvemetwithalotofthemandIveheardhowimportantitisforthemto
feelthattheyarewantedandincludedandpartofourcountry.Partofourhomelandsecurity.Andthat'swhatIwanttosee.It'salso
important,IintendtodefeatISIS,todosoinacoalitionwithmajorityMuslimnations.Rightnow,alotofthosenationsarehearing
whatDonaldsaysandwonderingwhyshouldwecooperatewiththeAmericansandthisisagifttoISISandtheterrorists.Violent
jihadistterrorists.WearenotatwarwithIslamanditisamistake,anditplaysintothehandsoftheterrorists,toactasthoughwe
are.SoIwantacountrywherecitizenslikeyouandyourfamilyarejustaswelcomeasanyoneelse.

Raddatz:Thankyou,secretaryClinton.Mr.Trump,inDecemberyousaidthis:DonaldJ.Trumpiscallingifareatotaland
completeshutdownofMuslimsenteringtheUnitedStatesuntilourcountry'srepresentativescanfigureoutwhatthehellisgoing
on.Wehavenochoice.Wehavenochoice.YourrunningmatesaidtheMuslimbanisnolongeryourposition.Isthatcorrectandif
itis,wasitamistaketohaveareligioustest?

Trump:Firstofall,CaptainKhanisanAmericanheroandifIwerepresidentatthattimehewouldbealivetodaybecause,unlike
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herwhovotedforthewarwithoutknowingwhatshewasdoing,IwouldnothavehadourpeopleinIraq.Iraqwasadisaster.Sohe
wouldhavebeenalivetoday.TheMuslimbanissomethingthatinsomeformhasmorphedintoanextremevettingfromcertain
areasoftheworld.HillaryClintonwantstoallow
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Raddatz:Whydiditmorphintothat.Noanswerthequestion.WouldyoupleaseexplainwhetherornottheMuslimbanstill
stands?

Trump:Itiscalledextremevetting.WearegoingtoareaslikeSyriawheretheyarecominginbythetensofthousandsbecauseof
BarackObamaandHillaryClintonwantswantstoallowa550%increaseoverObama.Peoplearecomingintoourcountrylikewe
havenoideawhotheyare,wheretheyarefrom,whattheirfeelingsaboutourcountryisandshewants550%more.Thisisgoingto
bethegreatTrojanhorseofalltime.Wehaveenoughproblemsinthiscountry.Ibelieveinbuildingsafezone,Ibelieveinhaving
otherpeoplepayforthem,asanexamplethe[Arabian]Gulfstateswhoarenotcarryingtheirweightbuttheyhavenothingbut
moneyandtakecareofpeople.ButIdon'twanttohave,withalltheproblemsthiscountryhasandalloftheproblemsyouseegoing
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on,hundredsofthousandsofpeoplecomeinfromSyriawhereweknownothingaboutthem.Weknownothingabouttheirvalues
andweknownothingabouttheirloveforourcountry.

Raddatz:SecretaryClinton,letmeaskyouaboutthat.Youhaveaskedforanincreasefrom10to65,000Syrianrefugees.Weknow
youwanttoughervetting.That'snotaperfectsystem.Sowhytaketheriskofhavingthoserefugeescomeintothecountry?

Clinton:Firstofall,IwillnotletanyoneintoourcountrythatIthinkposesarisktous.Buttherearealotofrefugees,womenand
children,thinkofthatpictureweallsawofthat4yearoldboywiththebloodonhisforeheadbecausehedbeenbombedbythe
RussianandSyrianairforces.Therearechildrensufferinginthiscatastrophicwar,largely,IbelievebecauseofRussianaggression.
Andweneedtodoourpart.We,bynomeans,arecarryinganywhereneartheloadthatEuropeandothersare.Butwewillhave
vettingthatisastoughasitneedstobefromourprofessionals,ourintelligenceexpertsandothers.Butitisimportantforusasa
policynottosay,asDonaldhassaid,weregoingtobanpeoplebasedonareligion.Howdoyouthat?Weareacountryfoundedon
religiousfreedomandliberty.Howdowedowhathehasadvocatedwithoutcausinggreatdistresswithinourowncountry?Arewe
goingtohavereligioustestswhenpeopleflyintoourcountryandhowdoweexpecttobeabletoimplementthose?SoIthoughtthat
whathesaidwasextremelyunwiseandevendangerousandindeedyoucanlookatthepropagandaonalotoftheterroristsitesand
whatDonaldTrumpsaysaboutMuslimsisusedtorecruitfighters.Becausetheywanttocreateawarbetweenus.Andthefinal
thingIsay,thisisthe10thor12thtimehedeniedbeingforthewarinIraq.Wehaveitontape,theentirepresscorpshaslookedat
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it,itsbeendebunkedbutitneverstopshimfromsayingwhateverhewantstosay.GotoHillaryclinton.com.

Trump:Ithasnotbeendebunked.IwasagainstthewarinIraq.
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Trump:Ithasnotbeendebunkedandyouvotedforitandshouldn'thave.

Raddatz:Iwouldliketomoveon.

Trump:Excuseme,shejustwentabout25secondsoverhertime.CanIrespond?

Raddatz:Shedidnot.Veryquicklyplease.

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Trump:HillaryClintonintermsofhavingpeoplecomeintoourcountry.Wehavemanycriminalillegalaliens.Whenwewantto
sendthembacktotheircountry,theircountrysays:wedon'twantthem.Insomecasestheyaremurderers,druglords,drug
problemsandtheydon'twantthem.AndHillaryClintonwhenshewasSecretaryofStatesaid,thatsokay,wecantforcethemback
intotheircountry.Letmetellyou,Imgoingtoforcethemrightbackintotheircountry.Theyaremurderersandsomeverybad
people.AndIwilltellyouverystrongly,whenBernieSanderssaidshehadbadjudgment,shehasreallybadjudgementbecausewe
arelettingpeopleintothiscountrythataregonnacauseproblemsandcrimelikeyouveneverseen.Werealsolettingdrugspour
throughoursouthernborderatarecordclip.Atarecordclip.AndItshouldn'tbeallowedtohappen.ICEjustendorsedme.They
neverendorsedapresidentialcandidate.Theborderpatrolagents,16,500justrecentlyendorsedme.Andtheyendorsedme
becauseIunderstandtheborder.Shedoesn't.Shewantsamnestyforeverybody.Comerightin.Comerightover.It'sahorriblething
sheisdoing.Shesgotbadjudgmentandhonestly,sobadthatsheshouldneverbepresidentoftheUnitedStates.ThatIcantell
you.

Raddatz:ThankyouMr.Trump.Iwanttomoveon.Thisnextquestioncomesfromthepublicthroughthebipartisanopendebate
coalitionsonlineforumwhereAmericanssubmittedquestionsthatgeneratedmillionsofvotes.ThisquestioninvolvesWikiLeaks
releaseofpurportedexcerptsofSecretaryClintonspaidspeechesspeeches,whichshehasrefusedtorelease.Inonelinein
particular,inwhichyouSecretaryClintonpurportedlysay,Youneedbothapublicandprivatepositiononcertainissues.So,two
fromVirginiaasks:isitokayforpoliticianstobetwofaced?Isitacceptableforapoliticiantohavehaveaprivatestanceonissues?
SecretaryClinton?Twominutes. Flashpluginfailedtoload

Clinton:Right.AsIrecall,thatwassomethingIsaidaboutAbrahamLincolnafterhavingseenthewonderfulStevenSpielberg
moviecalledLincoln.ItwasamasterclasswatchingpresidentLincolngetthecongresstoapprovethe13thamendment.Itwas
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principledanditwasstrategicandIwasmakingthepointthatitishard,sometimes,togetthecongresstodowhatyouwanttodo.
Andyouhavetokeepworkingatitandyes,presidentLincolnwastryingtoconvincesomepeople,heusedsomearguments,
convincingotherpeople,heusedotherarguments.Thatwasagreat,Ithought,agreatdisplayofpresidentialleadership.But,you

know,let'stalkaboutwhat'sreallygoingonhere,Marthabecauseourintelligencecommunityjustcameoutandsaidinthelastfew
daysthattheKremlin,meaningPutinandtheRussiangovernment,aredirectingtheattacks,thehackingonAmericanaccountsto
influenceourelection.AndWikiLeaksispartofthatasareothersiteswheretheRussianshackinformation,wedon'tevenknowif
it'saccurateinformationandthentheyputitout.Wehaveneverinthehistoryofourcountrybeeninasituationwherean
adversary,aforeignpower,isworkingsohardtoinfluencetheoutcomeoftheelection,andbelieve,theyrenotdoingittogetme
elected.TheyaredoingittotrytoinfluencetheelectionforDonaldTrump.Now,maybebecausehepraisedPutin,maybebecause
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hesaysheagreeswithalotofwhatPutinwantstodo,maybebecausehewantstodobusinessinMoscow.Idontknowthereasons,
butwedeserveanswers,andshoulddemandthatDonaldreleaseallofhistaxreturnssothatpeoplecanseewhatarethe
entanglementsandthefinancialrelationships

Raddatz:Wewillgettothatlater.SecretaryClinton,youareoutoftime.

Trump:IthinkIshouldrespondbecause,soridiculous.Look,nowsheisblamingshegotcaughtinatotallie.Herpaperswent
outtoallherfriendsatthebanks,GoldmanSachsandeverybodyelse.Andshesaidthings,WikiLeaks,thatjustcameout.Andshe
lied.NowshesblamingthelieonthelategreatAbrahamLincoln.Thatswhenokay,HonestAbeneverlied.Thatsthegoodthing.
That'sthebigdifferencebetweenAbrahamLincolnandyou.That'sabig,bigdifference.Weretalkingaboutsomedifference.But,as
farasotherelementsofwhatyouweresaying,Idon'tknowPutin.IthinkitwouldbegreatifwegotalongwithRussiabecausewe
couldfightISIStogether,asanexample,butIdon'tknowPutin.ButInotice,anytimeanythingwronghappens,theyliketosaythe
Russians,wellshedoesn'tknowifit'stheRussiansdoingthehacking.Maybethereisnohacking,butthereisnowRussiaandthe
reasontheyblameRussiaistheythinktheyretryingtotarnishmewithRussia.IknownothingaboutRussiaIknowaboutRussia,
butIknownothingabouttheinnerworkingsofRussia.Idontdealthere,Ihavenobusinessesthere,IhavenoloansfromRussia.I
haveaveryverygreatbalancesheet.SogreatthatwhenIdidtheoldpostoffice,onPennsylvaniaAvenue,theUnitedStates
governmentbecauseofmybalancesheet,whichtheyactuallyknowverywell,chosemetodotheoldpostofficebetweentheWhite
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HouseandCongress.Theychosemetodotheoldpostofficeoneoftheprimarythings,infact,perhapstheprimarythingwas
balancesheet.ButIhavenoloanswithRussia.YoucouldgototheUnitedStatesgovernmentandtheywouldprobablytellyouthat
becausetheyknowmysheetverywellinordertogetthatdevelopment,Ihadtohavenowthetaxesareaverysimplething.As
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soonasIhavefirstofall,Ipayhundredsofmillionsofdollarsintaxes.Manyofherfriendstookbiggerdeductions.WarrenBuffett
tookamassivededuction,Soros,whosafriendofherstookamassivededuction.Manyofthepeoplethataregivingherallthis

moneysothatshecandomanymorecommercialsthanme,gavehertookmassivedeductions.Ipayhundredsofmillionsintaxes,
but,butassoonasmyroutineauditisfinished,Illreleasemyreturns.Illbeveryproudto.

Raddatz:ThankyouMr.Trump.

Cooper:Actuallyonthetopicoftaxes,wehaveaquestionfromSpencerMoss.
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Moss:Goodevening.MyquestioniswhatspecifictaxprovisionswillyouchangetoensurethewealthiestAmericanspaytheirfair
shareintaxes?

Cooper:Mr.Trump,youhavetwominutes.

Trump:OnethingIddoisgetridofcarriedinterest.Theoneofthegreatestprovisionsforpeoplelikeme,tobehonestwithyou,
IgiveupalotwhenIrunbecauseIknockoutthetaxcode.Andshecouldhavedonethisyearsago,bytheway.Sheisshewasa
UnitedStatessenator.ShecomplainsthatDonaldTrumptookadvantageofthetaxcode.Well,whydidn'tyouchangeit,whydidnt
youchangeitwhenyouwereasenator?ThereasonyoudidntisthatallyourfriendstakethesameadvantagethatIdo.Andthey
do,youhaveprovisionsinthetaxcode,thatfrankly,wecouldchange.Butyouwouldn'tchangeitbecauseallofthesepeoplegave
youthemoneysoyoucantakenegativeadsonDonaldTrump.But,andIsaythataboutalotofthings.IheardHillarycomplaining
aboutsomanydifferentthingsovertheyears,Iwishwewouldhavedonethis.Butshesbeentherefor30years,shesbeendoing
thisstuff,sheneverchanged,andsheneverwillchange.Sheneverwillchange.Wearegettingridofcarriedinterestprovisions.Im
loweringtaxes,actually,becauseIthinkit'ssoimportantforcorporationsbecausewehavecorporationsleaving,massive
corporations,andlittleones.Thelittleonescan'tform.Wearegettingridofregulations,whichgoeshandinhandwiththe,
loweringthetaxes.Butwerebringingthetaxratedownfrom35%to15%.WearecuttingtaxesforthemiddleclassandIwilltell
you,wearecuttingthembigleagueforthemiddleclass.AndIlltellyou,HillaryClintonisraisingyourtaxes,folks,shecanlookat
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me,sheisraisingyourtaxes,reallyhighandwhatthat'sgoingtodoisadisasterforthecountry.ButsheisraisingthetaxesandI'm
loweringthetaxes.Thatinitselfisabigdifference.Wearegoingtobethrivingagain.Wehavenogrowthinthiscountry.Thereisno
growth.IfChinahasaGDPof7%it'slikeanationalcatastrophe.Weredownat1%,andthat'slikenogrowth.Andwearegoing
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lower,inmyopinion.Andalotofthathastodowiththefactthatourtaxesaresohigh.Justaboutthehighestintheworld,andI'm
bringingthemdowntooneofthelowerintheworld.AndIthinkit'ssoimportant.Oneofthemostimportantthingswecando.But
sheisraisingeverybody'staxesmassively.

Cooper:SecretaryClintonyouhavetwominutes.Thequestionwas,whatspecifictaxprovisionswouldyouchangetoensurethe
wealthiestAmericanspaytheirfairshareoftaxes.

Clinton:Well,everythingyouveheardfromDonaldisnottrue.I'msorryIhavetokeepsayingthis,buthelivesinanalternative
reality.Anditissortofamusingtohearsomebodywhohasn'tpaidfederalincometaxesinmaybe20yearstalkingaboutwhathes
goingtodo,butIlltellyouwhathesgoingtodo.Hisplanwillgivethewealthyandcorporationsthebiggesttaxcutstheyhaveever
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had.MorethantheBushtaxcutsbyatleastafactoroftwo.DonaldalwaystakescareofDonaldandpeoplelikeDonald.Andthis
wouldbeamassivegift.Andindeedthewaythathetalksabouthistaxcutswouldendupraisingtaxesonmiddleclassfamilies.
Millionsofmiddleclassfamilies.Now,here'swhatIwanttodo.Ihavesaidnobodywhomakeslessthan$250,000ayearandthat's
thevastmajorityofAmericans,asyouknowwillhavetheirtaxesraised.BecauseIthinkwehavegottogowherethemoneyisand
themoneyiswithpeoplewhohavetakenadvantageofeverysinglebreakinthetaxcode.Andyes,whenIwasasenator,Ididvote
toclosecorporateloopholes.Ivotedtoclose,Ithink,oneoftheloopholeshetookadvantageofwhenheclaimedabilliondollarloss
thatenabledhimtoavoidpayingtaxes.Iwanttohaveataxonpeoplewhoaremakingamilliondollars,it'scalledtheBuffettrule.
Yes,WarrenBuffettistheonewhosgoneoutandsaidsomebodylikehimshouldnotbepayingalowertaxratethanhissecretary.I
wannahaveasurchargeonincomesabove5million.Wehavetomakeupforlosttimes,becauseIwanttoinvestinyou,Iwantto
investinhardworkingfamilies.AndIthinkithasbeenunfortunate,butit'shappened,thatsincethegreatrecession,thegainshave
allgonetothetop.Andweneedtoreversethat.PeoplelikeDonaldwhopaidzerointaxes,zeroforourvets,zeroforourmilitary,
zeroforhealthandeducation.Thatiswrong.Andweregoingtomakesurethatnobody,nocorporationandnoindividualcanget
awaywithoutpayinghisfairsharetosupportourcountry.

Cooper:Mr.Trump,Iwanttogivethechancetorespond.Ijustwanttotellourviewerswhatshesreferringto.Inthelastmonth,
taxeswerethenumberoneissueonFacebookforthefirsttimeinthecampaign.TheNewYorkTimespublishedthreepagesofyour
1995taxreturnsthatshowyouclaimeda$960millionloss,whichmeansyoucouldhaveavoidedpayingpersonalfederalincome
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taxesforyears.Youvesaidyoupaystatetaxes,employeetaxes,realestatetaxes,propertytaxes.Youhavenotanswered,though,a
simplequestion.Didyouusethat$960millionlosstoavoidpayingpersonalfederalincometaxes?

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Trump:OfcourseIdid.OfcourseIdid.Andsodoallofherdonors,ormostofherdonors.Iknowmanyofherdonors.Herdonors
tookmassivetaxwriteoffs.AlotlotofmywriteoffwasdepreciationandalotofotherthingsHillaryClintonasasenatorallowed
andshealwaysallowedbecausethepeoplethatgiveherallthismoney,theywantit.Thatswhy.See,Iunderstandthetaxcode
betterthananybodythatseverrunforpresident.HillaryClintonisextremelycomplex.HillaryClintonhasfriendsthatwantallof

theseprovisions,including,theywantthecarriedinterestprovision,whichisveryimportanttoWallStreetpeople,buttheyreally
wantthecarriedinterestprovision,whichIbelieveHillaryisleaving,andit'sveryinterestingwhysheisleavingcarriedinterest.But
Iwilltell,youthat,numberone,Ipaytremendousnumbersoftaxes.IabsolutelyuseditandsodidWarrenBuffettandsodid
GeorgeSorosandsodidmanyoftheotherpeoplethatHillaryisgettingmoneyfrom.Now,Iwon'tmentiontheirnamesbecause
theyarerich,buttheyrenotfamous.Sowewontmakethemfamous.
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Cooper:Canyousayhowmanyyearsyouhaveavoidedpayingpersonalfederalincometaxes?

Trump:No.butIpaytaxandIpayfederaltaxtoo.ButIhaveawriteoff,alotofitisdepreciation,whichisawonderfulcharge.I
lovedepreciation.Youknow,shehasgivenittous.Hey,ifshehadaproblem,for30yearsshesbeendoingthis,Anderson,Isayit
allthetime,shetalksabouthealthcare.Whydidn'tyoudosomethingaboutit?Shetalksabouttaxes.Whydidn'tshedosomething
aboutit?Shedoesn'tdoanythingaboutanythingotherthantalk.Withher,it'salltalkandnoaction.Andagain,BernieSanders,it's
reallybadjudgment.Shehasmadebadjudgmentnotonlyontaxes,shesmadebadjudgementsonLibya,onSyria,onIraq.Herand
Obamawhetheryoulikeitornot,thewaytheygotoutofIraq,thevacuumtheyleft,that'swhyISISformedinthefirstplace.They
startedfromthelittleareaandnowtheyarein32differentnations,Hillary.Congratulations.Greatjob.

Cooper:Iwantyoutorespond,

Clinton:Well,herewegoagain.IhavebeeninfavorofgettingridofcarriedinterestforyearsstartingwhenIwasasenatorfrom
NewYork.Butthat'snotthepointhere.

Trump:Whydidn'tyoudoit?Whydidntyoudoit?

Clinton:BecauseIwasasenatorwithaRepublicanpresident.
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Trump:Youcouldhavedoneit.Ifyouwereaneffectivesenator,youcouldhavedoneit.Butyouwerenotaneffectivesenator.

Cooper:Pleaseallowhertorespond.Shedidn'tinterruptyou. Couldn'tloadplugin.

Clinton:Youknow,underourconstitution,presidentshavesomethingcalledvetopower.Look,hehasnowsaidrepeatedly30
yearsthisand30yearsthat.Soletmetalkaboutmy30yearsinpublicservice.I'mverygladtodoso.Eightmillionkidseveryyear

havehealthinsurancebecausewhenIwasfirstladyIworkedwithDemocratsandRepublicanstocreatethechildren'shealth
insuranceprogram.HundredsofthousandsofkidsnowhaveachancetobeadoptedbecauseIworkedtochangeouradoptionand
fostercaresystem.After9/11,IwenttoworkwithRepublicanmayor,governorandpresidenttorebuildNewYorkandtogethealth
careforourfirstresponderswhoweresufferingbecausetheyhadruntowardsdangerandgottensickenedbyit.Hundredsof
thousandsofNationalGuardandreservemembershavehealthcarebecauseofworkthatIdidandchildrenhavesafermedicines
becauseIwasabletopassalawthatrequiredthedosingtobemorecarefullydone.WhenIwassecretaryofstate,Iwentaroundthe
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worldadvocatingforourcountry,butalsoadvocatingforwomen'srightstomakesurethatwomenhadadecentchancetohavea
betterlifeandnegotiatedatreatywithRussiatolowernuclearweapons.400piecesoflegislationhavemynameonitasasponsor
orcosponsorwhenIwasasenatorforeightyears.IworkedveryhardandwasproudtobereelectedinNewYorkbyanevenbigger
marginthanIhadbeenelectedthefirsttime.Andaspresident,Iwilltakethatwork,thatbipartisanwork,thatfindingcommon
ground.BecauseyouhavetobeabletogetalongwithpeopletogetthingsdoneinWashington.AndIhaveproventhatIcanandfor
thirtyyears,Iveproducedresultsforthepeople.

Raddatz:WeregoingtomoveontoSyria.Bothofyouhavementionedthat.

Trump:Butshesaidalotofthingsthatwerefalse.Ithinkweshould

Raddatz:Mr.Trump,wewillgoon.Mr.Trump,wearegoingtomoveon.Theheartbreakingvideoofa5yearoldSyrianboy
namedOmransittinginanambulanceafterbeingpulledfromtherubbleafteranairstrikeinAleppofocusedtheworld'sattention
onthehorrorsofthewarinSyria,with136millionviewsonFacebookalone.ButtherearemuchworseimagescomingoutofAleppo
everydaynowwhereinthepastfewweeksalone400havebeenkilled,atleast100ofthemchildren.Justdaysago,theState
DepartmentcalledforawarcrimesinvestigationoftheSyrianregimeofBasharalAssadandofitsally,Russia,fortheir
bombardmentofAleppo.Sothisnextquestioncomesfromsocialmedia,throughFacebook.DianefromPennsylvaniaasksIfyou
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werepresident,whatwouldyoudoaboutSyriaandthehumanitariancrisisinAleppo?Isntisalotlikewasn'titliketheHolocaust
whentheU.S.waitedtoolongbeforewehelped?SecretaryClinton,wewillbeginwithyourtwominutes.

Clinton:ThesituationinSyriaiscatastrophicandeverydaythatgoesby,weseetheresultsoftheregime,byAssadinpartnership
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withtheIraniansonthegroundandtheRussiansintheair,bombardingplacesinparticularaleppo,wheretherearehundredsof
thousandsofpeople,probablyabout250,000peoplestillleft.AndthereisadeterminedeffortbytheRussianAirForcetodestroy
AleppoinordertoeliminatethelastoftheSyrianrebelswhoarereallyholdingoutagainsttheAssadregime.Russiahasn'tpaidany

attentiontoISIS.TheyareinterestedinkeepingAssadinpower.SoI,whenIwassecretaryofstateadvocated,andIadvocatetoday
anoflyandsafezones.WeneedsomeleveragewiththeRussiansbecausetheyarenotgoingtocometothenegotiatingtablefora
diplomaticresolutionunlessthereisleverageoverthem.Andwehavetoworkmorecloselywithourpartnersandalliesonthe
ground.ButIwanttoemphasizethatwhatisatstakehereistheambitionsandaggressivenessofRussia.Russiahasdecideditisall
ininSyria,andtheyvealsodecidedwhotheywanttoseebecomePresidentoftheUnitedStatestooandit'snotme.Istoodupto
RussiaIvetakenonPutinandothersandIwoulddothataspresident.IthinkwhereverwecancooperatewithRussia,that'sfine
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andIdid,asSecretaryofState,that'showwegotatreatyreducingnuclearweapons,itshowwegotthesanctionsonIranthatputa
lidonthenuclearweaponsprogramwithoutfiringasingleshot.SoIwouldgowithmoreleveragethanwehavenow.ButIsupport
theeffortstoinvestigateforcrimes,warcrimes,committedbytheSyriansandtheRussiansandtrytoholdthemaccountable.

Raddatz:ThankyouSecretaryClinton.Mr.Trump.

Trump:Firstofall,shewasthereasSecretaryofStatewiththesocalledlineinthesand.

Clinton:NoIwasn't,Iwasgone.Ihatetointerruptyou.Atsomepointweneedtogetthefactsout.

Trump:YouwerestillincontactwiththeWhiteHouse.Andperhapssadly,Obamaprobablystilllistenedtoyou.Idon'tthinkhe
wouldlistentoyouverymuchanymore.Obamadrawsthelineinthesand.Itwaslaughedatallovertheworldwhathappened.
Now,withthatbeingsaid,shetalkstoughagainstRussia,butournuclearprogramhasfallenwaybehindandtheyhavegonewild
withtheirnuclearprogram.Notgood.Ourgovernmentshouldnthaveallowedthattohappen.Russiaisnewintermsofnuclearand
weareoldandtiredandexhaustedintermsofnuclear.Averybadthing.

Now,shetalkstough.ShetalksreallytoughagainstPutinandagainstAssad.Shetalksinfavoroftherebels.Shedoesn'tevenknow
whotherebelsare.Youknow,everytimewetakerebelswhetherit'sinIraqoranywhereelse,werearmingpeople.Andyouknow
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whathappens?Theyendupbeingworsethanthepeople.LookatwhatshedidinLibyawithQaddafi.Qaddafiisout.It'samess.
Andbytheway,ISIShasagoodchunkoftheiroil.I'msureyouveprobablyhaveheardthat.Itwasadisaster.Thefactisalmost
everythingshehasdonehasbeenamistakeanditsbeenadisaster.ButifyoulookatRussia,justtakealookatRussiaandlookat
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whattheydidthisweek,andIagreeshewasn'tthere,butpossiblyshesconsulted.

Wesignapeacetreatyandeveryonesallexcited,butwhatRussiadidwithAssadandbythewaywithIranwhoyoumadevery
powerfulwiththedumbestdealperhapsIhaveseeninthehistoryofmaking,withthe$150billionandwiththe$1.7billionincash,
whichisenoughcashtofillupthisroom,butlookatthatdeal.IranandRussiaareagainstus.Soshewantstofight.Shewantsto
fightforrebels.Theresoneproblem.Youdontevenknowwhotherebelsare.Sowhatsthepurpose?

Raddatz:Mr.Trump,yourtwominutesisup.
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Trump:Idon'tlikeAssadatall,butAssadiskillingISIS.RussiaiskillingISISandIraniskillingISISandtheyhavelinedup
becauseofweakforeignpolicy.

Raddatz:Mr.Trump,letmerepeatthequestion.Ifyouwerepresident,whatwouldyoudoaboutSyriaandthehumanitariancrisis
inAleppo,andIwanttoremindyouwhatyourrunningmatesaid.HesaidprovocationsbyRussianeedtobemetwithAmerican
strengthandthatifRussiacontinuestobeinvolvedinairstrikesalongwiththeSyriangovernmentforcesofAssad,theUnitedStates
ofAmericashouldbepreparedtousemilitaryforcetostrikethemilitarytargetsoftheAssadregime.

Trump:Okay.HeandIhaven'tspoken,andIdisagree.

Raddatz:Youdisagreewithyourrunningmate?

Trump:Idisagree.Rightnow,SyriaisfightingISIS.Wehavepeoplethatwanttofightbothatthesametime.ButSyriaisno
longerSyria.SyriaisRussiaanditsIranwhoshemadestrongandKerryandObamamadeintoapowerfulnationandarichnation,
veryquickly,very,veryquickly.IbelievewehavetogetISIS.WehavetoworryaboutISISbeforewecangettoomuchmore
involved.ShehadachancetodosomethingwithSyria,theyhadachance,andthatwastheline.

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Trump:Aleppoisadisaster,humanitarianwise.
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Raddatz:Whatwillhappenifitfalls?

Trump:Ithinkthatitbasicallyhasfallen,okay?Itbasicallyhasfallen.Letmetellyousomething:youtakealookatMosul.The
biggestproblemIhavewiththestupidityofourforeignpolicy.WehaveMosul,theythinkalotoftheISISleadersareinMosul.So
wehaveannouncementsoutofWashingtonandcomingoutIraq.WewillbeattackingMosulinthreeweeksorfourweeks.Soallof
thesebadleadersfromISISareleavingMosul.Whycan'ttheydoitquietly?Wecanttheydotheattackandmakeitasneakattack
andaftertheattackismadeinformtheAmericanpublicthatwehaveknockedouttheleaderswevehaveatremendoussuccess.
Peopleleave.WhydotheyhavetosaywearegoingtobeattackingMosulwithinthenextfourtosixweeks,whichiswhattheyre
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saying.Howstupidisourcountry?

Raddatz:Therearesometimesreasonsthemilitarydoesthat.Psychologicalwarfare.

Trump:Ican'tthinkofany.

Raddatz:Itmightbetogetciviliansout.

Trump:Ican'tthinkofany.Ihave200generalsandadmiralswhoendorsedme.Ihave21congressionalMedalofHonorrecipients
whoendorseme.Wetalkaboutitallthetime.Theyunderstand.Whycan'ttheydosomethingsecretivelywheretheygoinand
knockouttheleadership.Whywouldthesepeoplestaythere?IvebeenreadingthereforweeksaboutMosul...

Raddatz:Tellmewhatyourstrategyisit.

Trump:ThatitstheharborbetweenRaqqaandMosul,thisiswhywheretheythinktheISISleadersare.Whywouldtheybe
staying...theyarenotstayingthereanymore.Theyaregone.BecauseeverybodyistalkingabouthowIraqwhichisuswithour
leadershipgoesintofightMosul.Withthe200admiralsandgenerals,theycan'tbelieveit.GeneralGeorgePattonandGeneral
DouglasMacArthurarespinningintheirgraveatthestupidityofwhatwearedoingintheMiddleEast.
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Raddatz:ImgoingtogotoSecretaryClinton,youwantAssadtogo,youadvocatedarmingrebels,butitlookslikethatmaybetoo
lateforAleppo.Youtalkaboutdiplomaticefforts,thosethatfailed,ceasefireshavefailed.WouldyouintroducethethreatofU.S.
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militaryforcebeyondanoflyzoneagainsttheAssadregimetobackupdiplomacy?

Clinton:IwouldnotuseAmericangroundforcesinSyria.Ithinkthatwouldbeaveryseriousmistake.Idon'tthinkAmerican
troopsshouldbeholdingterritorywhichiswhattheywouldhavetodoasanoccupyingforce.Idon'tthinkthatisasmartstrategy.I

dothinktheuseofspecialforces,whichwereusing,theuseofenablersandtrainersinIraq,whichhashadpositiveeffects,arevery
muchinourinterests.SoIdosupportwhatishappening.

Raddatz:WhatwouldyoudodifferentthanthanPresidentObamaisdoing?

Trump:Everything.
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Clinton:Martha,IhopethatbythetimeIampresidentthatwewillhavepushedISISoutofIraq.Idothinkthatthereisagood
chancethatwecantakeMosul.Andyouknow,DonaldsaidheknowsmoreaboutISISthanthegenerals.No,hedoesn't.Therearea
lotofveryimportantplanninggoingonandsomeofitistosignaltotheSunnisintheare,aaswellasKurdishPeshmergafighters
thatweallneedtobeinthis.Andthattakesalotofplanningandpreparation.IwouldgoafterBaghdadi.Iwouldspecificallytarget
Baghdadi.BecauseIthinkourtargetingofAlQaedaleaders,andIwasinvolvedinalotofthoseoperations,highlyclassifiedones,
madeadifference.Ithinkthatcouldhelp.IwouldconsiderarmingtheKurds.ThekurdshavebeenourbestpartnersinSyria,as
wellasIraq.AndIknowtheresalotofconcernaboutthatinsomecircles,buttheyshouldhavetheequipmenttheyneedsothat
KurdishandArabfightersonthegroundaretheprincipalwaywetakeRaqqaafterpushingISISoutofIraq.

Trump:Youknowthatsfunny.Shewentoveraminuteoverandyoudon'tstopher.WhenIgoonesecondover

Raddatz:Youhadmanyanswers.

Trump:It'sveryinteresting.

Cooper:WehaveaquestionfromJamesCarter.

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Carter:Myquestionis,doyoubelieveyoucanbeadevotedpresidenttoallthepeopleintheUnitedStates.

Cooper:ThatquestionbeginsforMr.Trump.
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Trump:Absolutely.Imean,shecallsourpeopledeplorable.Alargegroup.Andirredeemable.Iwillbeapresidentforallofour
people.AndIlllbeapeoplethatwillturnourinnercitiesaroundandwillgivestrengthtopeopleandwillgiveeconomicstopeople
andwillbringjobsback.BecauseNAFTA,signedbyherhusband,isperhapsthegreatestdisastertradedealinthehistoryofthe

world.Notofthiscountry.Itstrippedusofmanufacturingjobs.Welostourjobs,welostourmoney,welostourplants.Itisa
disaster.

AndnowshewantstosignTPP,eventhoughshesaidnowshesforit.Shecalleditthegoldstandard.Andbytheway,atthelast
debateshelied.Becauseitturnsoutthatshedidsaythegoldstandard,andsaidshedidn'tsayit.Theyactuallysaidthatshelied.
Okay.Andshelied.Becauseitturnedoutshedidsaythegoldstandardandshesaidshedidntsayit.Butsheliedaboutalotof
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things.Iwouldbeapresidentforallofthepeople.AfricanAmericans,theinnercities.Devastatingwhat'shappeningtoourinner
cities.Shesbeentalkingaboutforyears.Asusual,shetalksaboutit,nothinghappens.Shedoesn'tgetitdone.SamewiththeLatino
Americans.TheHispanicAmericans.Thesameexactthing.Theytalk.Theydon'tgetitdone.Yougointotheinnercities,it's45%
poverty.AfricanAmericansnow45%povertyintheinnercities.Theeducationisadisaster.Jobsareessentiallynonexistent.I
mean,IvebeensayinginbigspeecheswhereIhave20and30,000people.Whatdoyouhavetolose?Itcan'tgetworse?Shehas
beentalkingabouttheinnercitiesfor25years.Nothingisgoingtoeverhappen.Letmetellyou,ifsheispresidentoftheUnited
States,nothingsgoingtohappen.it'sgoingtobetalk.Allofherfriends,thetaxeswearetalkingabout.Andiwouldjustgetitby
osmosis.Sheisnotdoingmefavors,butbydoingalltheothersfavors,sheisdoingmefavors.ButIwilltellyoutheisalltalkandit
doesn'tgetdone.Allyouhavetodoistakealookathersenaterun,takealookatupstateNewYork.

Cooper:Yourtwominutesisup.

Trump:Itturnedouttobeadisaster.

Cooper:Youhavetwominutes.

Clinton:Well,67%ofthepeoplevotedtoreelectmewhenIranformysecondterm,andIwasveryproudandveryhumbledby
that.Mr.Carter,IhavetriedmyentirelifetodowhatIcantosupportchildrenandfamilies.Youknow,rightoutoflawschoolI
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wenttoworkforthechildren'sdefensefund.Donaldtalksalotaboutthe30yearsIvebeeninpublicservice.Improudofthat.You
know,IstartedoffasayounglawyerworkingagainstdiscriminationagainstAfricanAmericanchildrenandschoolsandinthe
criminaljusticesystem.Iworkedtomakesurethatkidswithdisabilitiescouldgetapubliceducation,somethingIcaredverymuch
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about.IworkedwithLatinos,oneofmyfavoritejobsinpoliticswasdowninsouthTexasregisteringLatinocitizenstobeableto
vote.SoIhaveadeepdevotion,touseyourabsolutelycorrectwords,tomakingsurethateveryAmericanfeelslikeheorshehasa
placeinourcountry.

AndIthinkwhenyoulookatthelettersthatIget,alotofpeopleareworriedthatmaybetheywouldn'thaveaplaceinDonald
Trump'sAmerica.Theywritemeandonewomanwrotemeaboutherson,Felix.SheadoptedhimfromEthiopiawhenhewasa
toddler.Heis10yearsoldnow.Thisistheonlycountryhehaseverknown.AndhelistenstoDonaldonTVandhesaidtohis
motheroneday:willhesendmebacktoEthiopiaifhegetselected?Youknowchildrenlistentowhatisbeingsaidtogobacktothe
very,veryfirstquestion.Thereisalotoffear.InfactteachersandparentsarecallingittheTrumpeffect.Bullyingisupandalotof
peoplearefeelinguneasy,alotofkidsareexpressingtheirconcerns.Firstandforemost,IwilldoeverythingIcantoreachoutto
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everybody.Democrats,Republicans,independents,andpeopleacrossourcountry.Ifyoudon'tvoteforme,Istillwanttobeyour
president.IwanttobethebestpresidentIcanbeforeveryone.

Cooper:SecretaryClinton,yourtwominutesisup.IwanttofollowonwithsomethingDonaldTrumpsaidtoyou.Acommentyou
madelastmonth.YousaidhalfofDonaldTrumpsupportersarequotedeplorables.Racist,sexist,homophobic,xenophobic,
islamophobic.Youlatersaidyouregrettedsayinghalf.Youdidn'texpressregretforusingthetermdeplorables.ToMr.Carters
question,howcanyouuniteacountryifyou'vewrittenofftensofmillionsofAmericans?

Clinton:WellwithinhoursIsaidIwassorryaboutthewayItalkedaboutthatbecausemyargumentisnotwithhissupporters,it's
withhimandthedivisivecampaignhehasrunandtheincitingofviolenceathisralliesandtheverybrutalkindsofcommentsabout
notjustwomen,butallAmericans.AllkindsofAmericans.AndwhathesaidaboutAfricanAmericansandLatinos,aboutMuslims,
aboutPOWs,aboutimmigrants,aboutpeoplewithdisabilities,hesneverapologizedfor.SoIdothinkthatalotoftoneandtenor...
IamproudofthecampaignsBernieSandersandIran.Weranacampaignbasedonissue,notinsults.Heissupportingme100%
becausewetalkedaboutwhatwewantedtodo.Wemighthavehaddifferencesandwehadalotofdebate,butwebelievedthatwe
couldmakethecountrybetterandIwasproudofthat.

Trump:Wehaveadividednation.Wehaveaverydividednation.YoulookatCharlotte,youlookatBaltimore,youlookatthe
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violencetakingplaceintheinnercities.Chicago.YoulookatWashington,D.C.Wehaveanincreaseinmurderwithinourcities,the
biggestin45years.Wehaveadividednationbecauseofpeoplelikeher.Believeme,shehastremendoushateinherheart.When
shesaiddeplorables,shemeantit.Andwhenshesaidirredeemable,theyreirredeemable!Youdidn'tmentionthat,butwhenshe
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saidtheyreirredeemable,tomethatmighthavebeenworse.Shesgottremendoushatred.Andthiscountrycannottakeanother
fouryearsofBarackObamaandthat'swhatyouaregettingwithher.

Cooper:Mr.Trump,letmefollowupwithyou.In2008,youwroteinoneofyourbooksthatthemostimportantcharacteristicofa
goodleaderisdiscipline.Yousaidifaleaderdoesn'thaveit,quoteheorshewon'tbeoneforlong.Inthedaysafterthefirstdebate,
yousentoutaseriesoftweetsfrom3:00A.M.To5:00A.M.includingonethattoldpeopletocheckoutasextape.Isthatthekindof
discipline...

Trump:Noitwasn'tcheckoutasextape.Itwastakealookatthispersonshebuilduptobethiswonderful,uh,girlscout,whowas
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nogirlscout.

Cooper:Youmentionedsextape.

Trump:Justsoyouunderstand:Whenshesaid3oclockinthemorning,takealookatBenghazi.Shesaidwhoisgoingtoanswer
thecallat3oclockinthemorning,guesswhat?Shedidn'tanswer.BecausewhenambassadorStevensshesaidshewasawakeof
at3:00inthemorning.Andshealsosentatweetoutat3oclockinthemorning,butIwontmentionthat.Buthesaidshewillbe
awake,thefamousthingweregoingtoanswerthecallat3:00inthemorning.Guesswhathappened,AmbassadorStevens,
AmbassadorStevenssent600requestsforhelpandtheonlyoneshetalkedtowasSidneyBlumenthalwhosherfriendandnota
goodguy,bytheway.Sosheshouldn'tbetalkingaboutthat.Now,tweetinghappenstobeamoderndayformofcommunication.
Youcanlikeitornot.BetweenFacebookandTwitter,Ihave25millionpeople.It'saveryeffectivewayofcommunication.Soyou
canputitdown,butit'saneffectiveformofcommunication.I'mnotunproudofittobehonestwithyou.

Cooper:SecretaryClinton,doesMr.Trumphavethedisciplinetobeagoodleader?

Clinton:No.

Trump:I'mshockedtohearthat.
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Clinton:Well,it'snotonlymyopinion,butit'stheopinionofmanyothers.Nationalsecurityexperts,Republicans,former
Republicanmembersofcongress.Butitsinpartbecausethoseofuswhohavehadthegreatprivilegeofseeingthisjobupcloseand
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knowhowdifficultitisandit'snotjustbecauseIwatchedmyhusbandtakea$300billiondeficitandturnitintoa$200billion
surplusand23millionnewjobswerecreatedandincomeswentupforeverybody.Everybody.AfricanAmericanincomeswentup
33%.AnditsnotjustbecauseworkedwithGeorgeW.Bushafter9/11andIwasveryproudthatwhenItoldthemwhatthecityneed

andwhatweneededtorecover,hesaidyougotitandheneverwavered.Hestuckwithme.AndIhaveworkedandiadmire
PresidentObama.HeinheritedtheworstfinancialcrisissincetheGreatDepression.Thatwasaterribletimeforourcountry.

Cooper:wehavetomovealong.

Clinton:9millionpeoplelosttheirjobs,fivemillionhomeswerelost.
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Raddatz:SecretaryClintonwearemovingon.

Clinton:And$13trillioninfamilywealthwaswipedout.Wearebackontherighttrack.Hewouldsendusbackintoarecession
withhistaxplan.

Raddatz:SecretaryClintonwearemovingtoanaudiencequestion,wearealmostoutoftimeandwehaveanotherquestion.Mr.
Trump,wearemovingon.

Trump:Wehavetheslowestgrowthandourcountryisadisaster.

Raddatz:Mr.Trump,wewanttogettotheaudience.Thankyouverymuch,bothofyou.Wehaveanotheraudiencequestion.Beth
Millerhasaquestionforbothcandidates.

Miller:Goodevening.PerhapsthemostimportantaspectofthiselectionistheSupremeCourtjustice.Whatwouldyouprioritize
sizeasthemostimportantaspectofselectingaSupremeCourtjustice?

Raddatz:Webeginwithyourtwominutes,SecretaryClinton.
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Clinton:Thankyou.Youareright.Thisisoneofthemostimportantissuesinthiselection.IwanttoappointSupremeCourt
justiceswhounderstandthewaytheworldreallyworks,whohavereallifeexperience.Whohavenotjustbeeninabiglawfirmand
maybeclerkedforajudgeandthengottenonthebench,butmaybetheytriedmorecases.Actuallyunderstandwhatpeopleareup
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against.BecauseIthinkthecurrentcourthasgoneinthewrongdirection.IwouldwanttoseetheSupremeCourtreverseCitizens
Unitedandgetdarkunaccountablemoneyoutofourpolitics.Donalddoesn'tagreewiththat.IwouldliketheSupremeCourtto
understandthatvotingrightsareabigprobleminmanypartsofthecountry.Thatwedon'tdoalwaysdoeverythingwecantomake

itpossibleforpeopleofcolorandolderpeopleandyoungpeopletobeabletoexercisetheirfranchise.IwantaSupremeCourtthat
willstickwithRoev.Wadeandawomansrighttochoose,andIwantaSupremeCourtthatwillstickwithmarriageequality.Now,
Donaldputforthofthenamesofpeoplehewouldconsider.Andamongtheonesthathehassuggestedarepeoplewhowould
reverseRoev.Wadeandreversemarriageequality.Ithinkthatwouldwouldbeaterriblemistakeandtakeusbackwards.Iwanta
SupremeCourtthatdoesntalwayssidewithcorporateinterests.IwantaSupremeCourtthatunderstandsbecauseyouarewealthy
andyoucangivemoremoneytosomethingdoesntmeanyouhavemorerightsorshouldhaveanymorerightsthananythingelse.
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SoIhaveclearviewsaboutwhatIwanttoseetochangethebalanceontheSupremeCourtandIregretdeeplythatthesenatehas
notdoneitsjobandtheyhavenotpermittedavoteonthepersonthatPresidentObama,ahighlyqualifiedperson.Theyhavenot
givenhimavotetobeabletohavethefullcomplementofnineSupremeCourtjustices.Ithinkthatwasaderelictionofduty.Ihope
theywillseetheirwaytodoingit,butifIamsofortunateastobepresident,Iwillimmediatelymovetomakesurethatwefillthat.
Wehaveninejusticesandthattheygettoworkonbehalfofourpeople.

Raddatz:SecretaryClinton.Thankyou.Youareoutoftime.Mr.Trump?

Trump:JusticeScalia,greatjudge,diedrecentlyandwehaveavacancy.Iamlookingtoappointjudgesverymuchinthemoldof
justiceScalia.Iamlookingforjudgesandhaveactuallypicked20ofthem.Sothatpeoplewouldsay:Highlyrespected.Highly
thoughtofandactuallyverybeautifullyreviewedbyjustabouteverybody.ButpeoplethatwillrespecttheConstitutionoftheUnited
States.AndIthinkthatthisissoimportant.Also,theSecondAmendmentwhichistotallyundersiegebypeoplelikeHillaryClinton.
Theyllrespectthesecondamendmentandwhatitstandsforandwhatitrepresents.

Now,Hillarymentionedcontributions.Justsoyoucould,Iwillhaveinmyracemorethan$100millionputinofmymoney.
Meaning,Imnottakingallofthisbigmoneyfromallofthesecorporationslikesheisdoing.WhatIaskisthis:soIamputtingin...
bythetimeit'sfinished,Illhavemorethan100milliondollarsinvested.Prettymuchselffundingmine.Wereraisingmoneyfor
theRepublicanpartyandweredoingtremendouslyonthesmalldonations.$61averageorso. Flashpluginfailedtoload

IaskHillary:whydoesn'tshemake$250,000bybeinginoffice?Sheusedthepowerofherofficetomakealotofmoney.Whyisn't
shefunding..Notforahundredmillion,whydontyouput10or20or25or$30millionintoyourcampaign.It's$30millionlessfor
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specialintereststhatwilltelltheyouexactlywhattodoanditwouldreallybeanicesigntotheAmericanpublic.Whyaren'tyou
puttingsomemoneyin?Youhavealotofit.Youmadealotofitbecauseofthefactthatyouvebeeninoffice.Youmadealotwhile
youweresecretaryofstate,actually.Sowhyaren'tyouputtingyourownmoneyintoyourcampaign,justcurious?

Raddatz:Wewillgetontoonemorequestion.

Clinton:Thequestionwasaboutthesupremecourt.Irespectthesecondamendment,butIbelievethereshouldbebackground
checksandweshouldclosethegunshowloopholeandclosetheonlineloophole...

Raddatz:Wehaveonemorequestion.
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Cooper:WehaveonemorequestionfromKenBoneaboutenergypolicy.

Bone:Whatstepswillyourenergypolicytaketomeetourenergyneeds,whileatthesametimeremainingenvironmentally
friendlyandminimizingjoblossforfossilpowerplantworkers?

Cooper:Mr.Trump,twominutes.

Trump:SuchagreatquestionbecauseenergyisundersiegebytheObamaadministration.Underabsolutesiege.TheEPA,
EnvironmentalProtectionAgency,iskillingtheseenergycompanies.Andforeigncompaniesarenowcomingin.Buyingsomanyof
ourdifferentplantsandthenrejiggeringtheplant,sotheytakecareoftheiroil.Wearekilling,absolutelykillingourenergybusiness
inthiscountry.NowIamallforalternativeformsofenergyincluding:windandsolar,etc.Butweneedmuchmorethanwindand
solar.Andyoulookattheminers,HillaryClintonwantstoputtheminersoutofbusiness.Thereisathingcalledcleancoal.Coal
willlastfor1,000yearsinthiscountry.Nowwehavenaturalgas,andsootherthingsbecauseoftechnology,wehaveunbelievable,
wehavefoundoverthelastsevenyears,wefoundtremendouswealthrightunderourfeet.Sogood,especiallywhenyouhave$20
trillionindebt.Iwillbringourenergycompaniesbackandtheywillbeabletocompeteandtheyllmakemoneyandpayoffour
nationaldebtandbudgetdeficitswhicharetremendous.Butweareputtingourenergycompaniesoutofbusiness.Wehavetobring
backourworkers.Youtakealookatwhat'shappeningtosteelandthecostofsteelandChinadumpingvastamountssteelallover
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theUnitedStates,whichessentiallyiskillingoursteelworkersandsteelcompanies.Wehavetoguardourenergycompanies,we
havetomakeitpossible.TheEPAissorestrictivethattheyareputtingourenergycompaniesoutofbusiness.Andallyouhavetodo
isgotoagreatplacelikeWestVirginiaorplaceslikeOhiowhichisphenomenalorplaceslikePennsylvaniaandyouseewhatthey
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aredoingtothepeople,minersandothersintheenergybusiness.It'sadisgrace.Itsanabsolutedisgrace.

Cooper:Yourtimeisup.SecretaryClinton,twominutes.

Clinton:Well,thatwasveryinteresting.Firstofall,ChinaisillegallydumpingsteelintheUnitedStatesandDonaldTrumpis
buyingittobuildhisbuildings,puttingsteelworkersandAmericansteelplantsoutofbusiness.That'ssomethingthatIfought
againstasasenatorandsomethingIwouldhaveatradeprosecutortomakesurewedon'tgettakenadvantageofbyChinaonsteel
oranythingelse.Youknowbecauseitsoundslikeyouareinthebusinessoryoureawareofpeopleinthebusiness.Youknowthat
wearenowforthefirsttimeenergyindependent.WearenotdependentontheMiddleEast,buttheMiddleEastcontrolsalotof
prices.Sothepriceofoilhasbeenwaydownandthathasadamagingeffectonalottheoilcompanies,right?Wearehowever
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producingalotofnaturalgasthatservesasabridgetomorerenewablefuelsandIthinkthat'sanimportanttransition.Wevegotto
remainenergyindependent.ItgivesusmuchmorepowerandfreedomthantobeworriedaboutwhatgoesonintheMiddleEast.
Wehaveenoughworriedovertherewithouthavingtoworryaboutthat.SoIhaveacomprehensiveenergypolicy,butitreallydoes
includefightingclimatechangebecauseIthinkthatisaseriousproblem.AndIsupportmovingtowardsmorecleanrenewable
energyasquicklyaswecan.BecauseIthinkwecanbethe21stcenturycleanenergysuperpowerandcreatemillionsofnewjobsand
businesses.ButIwanttobesurethatwedon'tleavepeoplebehind.ThatswhyI'mtheonlycandidatefromtheverybeginningof
thiscampaignwhohadaplantohelpusrevitalizecoalcountry.Becausethosecoalminersandtheirfathersandgrandfathers,they
dugthatcoalout,alotofthemlosttheirlives.Theywereinjured.Buttheyturnthelightsonandpoweredourfactories.Idon'twant
towalkawayfromthem.Sowevegottodosomethingforthem.Butthepriceofcoalisdownworldwide.Wehavetolookatthis
comprehensivelyandthat'swhatIhaveproposed.Ihopeyouwillgotohillaryclinton.comandreadmyentirepolicy.

Raddatz:WesneakinonemorequestionfromKarlBecker.

Becker:Myquestiontobothofyouis,regardlessofthecurrentrhetoric,wouldeitherofyounameonepositivethingthatyou
respectinoneanother?

Raddatz:Mr.Trump,wouldyouliketogofirst?
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Clinton:Well,Icertainlywill,becauseIthinkthat'saveryfairandimportantquestion.Well,Irespecthischildren.Hischildren
areincrediblyableanddevotedandIthinkthatsaysalotaboutDonald.Idon'tagreewithnearlyanythingelsehesaysordoes,butI
dorespectthatandthinkthatissomethingthatasamotherandagrandmotherisveryimportanttome.SoIbelievethatthis
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electionhasbecomeinpartsoconflictoriented,sointensebecausethereisalotatstake.Thisisnotanordinarytimeandthisisnot
anordinaryelection.Wearegoingtobechoosingapresidentwhowillsetpolicyfornotjustfouroreightyears,butbecausesomeof
theimportantdecisionswehavetomakeathomeandaroundtheworldfromtheSupremeCourttoenergyandsomuchelse,andso

thereisalotatstakeit'soneofthemostconsequentialelectionsthatwevehadandthat'swhyItriedtoputforthspecificpolicies
andplanstryingtogetitoffofthepersonalandputitontowhatitisonIwanttodoaspresident.Andthat'swhyIhopepeople
willcheckonthatforthemselves.Sothattheycanseethatyes,Ispent30years,actuallyalittlemore,workingtohelpkidsand
familiesandIwanttotakeallthatexperiencetotheWhiteHouseanddothateverysingleday.

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Trump:Well,Iconsiderherstatementaboutmychildrentobeaverynicecompliment.Idon'tknowifitwasmeanttobea
compliment,butitisagreat...I'mproudofmychildren.Theyhavedoneawonderfuljobandtheyhavebeenwonderful,wonderful
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