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Issue 21

The month to
celebrate the
green!

POW's

Ricardo
Montes &
Luke
Scarmazzo
The US
& the
UN on
Drugs

Relief for CA Patients


By Chris Conrad

News Health Hemp Recipes Vape Giveaway!


time4hemp.com/joint-conversations
Submissions/Articles
Letters to the Editor
Casper@Time4Hemp.com

EDITORIAL Hemp Recipes:


Casper Leitch says 'HIGH' Sweet treats 4-U
Page 3 and your dog!
Page 14

How to make cannabis


Relief for CA Patients
cooking oil
by Chris Conrad
Page 4 Page 15

8 Ways Canada Can Legalize


Cannabis by Dana Larsen Judge Jim Gray
Page 6 Policing For Profit
Page 16
Health Canada Says
Feds Should Consider 9
Factors by Jim Bronskill
Page 12

POW's - Ricardo Montes The T4H SPOTLIGHT


and Luke Scarmazzo Steve Danks host of
by Georgean Arsons Hemp Works!
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Network Analytics FREE VAPE


See how we're gorwing! GIVEAWAY!
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ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
The US and the UN Published March 2016
International Drug Cover Photo: Public Domain
Policy Summit Created by: Casper Leitch
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Legal Notice: All article credit and sources are used when available.
Photos are connected to source or are supplied by submitting person(s).
All other photos and tweets are taken from on-line public domain.

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We're growing! by Casper Leitch
Its been awhile since Ive been in charge of the newsletter, I
hope you like this edition. Its wonderful to know that it has a
large subscribership of which about 10% download the PDF
from the site and pay to have copies of it printed so as to hand
out free to their friends and/or customers. There are many
stores and vapor-lounges in Canada and America that now have
JOINT CONVERSATIONS available when you walk in the door.
At the time the duties of organizing the newsletter fell back into my lap, I was busy helping Wolf Segal get the TIME 4 HEMP
24/07 LIVE STREAMING GARDEN set up so people can go to the website and watch cannabis grow IN REAL TIME in
High Definition. This is a 2-year project that will evolve from the current operation of tent and closet grows to a full scale half
acre greenhouse with Wolf producing short gardening-tip videos and blogs along the way. Web surfers will be able to watch
the seeds turn into plants, the plants turn into flowers and the flowers turn into smoke. It truly is a lot of fun to grow a legal
cannabis garden LIVE on the Internet; it makes for a fun way to educate the public especially the DEA. FOFLMAO!
Ive also been busy re-tooling the TIME 4 HEMP ROKU-TV channel. Many of our hosts and sponsors have video
presentations of their work and because of that, the channel is quickly growing. ROKU-TV is also quickly growing. According
to Michael Greeson, founder of The Diffusion Research Group, Smart TVs will likely find their way into more than 80% of
homes over the next 10 years and owners of smart TVs report a significant increase of watching live-stream content.

Over the past year, ROKU-TV has partnered with several companies such as SHARP and SAMSUNG to have their software
built into the display making them a great option for small living spaces. Microsoft now includes ROKU-TV in their Windows-10
release. These few changes alone have quickly added to the 65-million global subscriber base ROKU had established by end
of 2014. ROKU is also quick to add new broadcast services such as HBO and Netflix and currently offers over 2,000 channels
- all at the fraction of the cost of what cable television charges.

The latest network statistics have been included in this newsletter so you can see how much weve grown. I want to give a BIG
SHOUT OUT to all the wonderful sponsors of the network and thank them for their support its because of THEM that we
have continued to thrive! Please visit their websites and let them know you heard about them at Time 4 Hemp and that you
enjoy the content we provide. Do make it a point to visit our website often as well. Lots of free MP3s are added to the archive
pages each week as is new content. Id like to close this with a reminder to everyone who listens: TIME 4 HEMP is like a good
joint, its always better when you SHARE IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS.

Why is it so important to support this network?


With so many channels to surf through and so much great programming, why cant we find anything to watch? 90% of
what we watch, listen to and read is owned by 6 companies. Thats a large percentage to just be divided by a factor of
six. 30 years ago 90% of media was owned by 50 different companies. The reason we never find anything new on TV
is that 70% of what is on cable is owned by the Big 6. Thats 1 out of every 5 hours of television. Comcast now owns
51% of NBC, while GE owns 49%. These absentee corporations are focused only on the bottom line and therefore are
cutting journalists, gutting newsrooms and replacing meaningful debate with celebrity gossip and junk news. These
same 6 companies also own 90% or all radio stations, magazines and newspapers. They have the power to warp
reality by calling staged shows reality shows. Ideas which dont support mainstream narratives and the consumer
agenda are omitted, and stories about independent people over-coming strife without dependence on government are
seldom if ever elevated.

The promotion of shallow, materialistic, ego-centric values, and the obvious dumbing down of the American population
is coming from these 6 corporations. Think about that. These are the companies that glorify consumption, obedience,
ignorance, the dumbing-down of youth, the glorification of war and government surveillance, and so on. The
advertisers that support these media companies have tremendous sway over what makes it on the airwaves. They
help to control public perception.

With such tremendous global reach in all forms of media communication, these corporations help to shape our world
by providing coverage of our lives, analyses of our world, entertainment to pass our time and inspire our minds, and
even distraction and occupation for our children

The bottom line is that corporate media is a behemoth of special interests and mind controllers. So much of the
human story is omitted in this capitalistic, for-profit environment scheme. That is why, now more than ever, the
independent media (such as Time 4 Hemp) is a gem for human-kind to treasure.

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Relief for Californias Marijuana Patients

The term medical


marijuana refers to using
the whole unprocessed
marijuana plant or its basic
extracts to treat a disease
or symptom. The U.S. Food
and Drug Administration
(FDA) has not recognized
or approved the marijuana
plant as medicine.

By: Chris Conrad - The Leaf On-Line - 03/04/16

After years of criminal prosecutions and civil bans, Californias medical marijuana
patients are in a state of shell shock. Could their rescue come from an unexpected
ally the Adult Use of Marijuana Act? Lets take a look.

Cannabis-patients thought that after Proposition 215 passed in 1996, police would
stop arresting them. The arrests continued and it remained illegal to provide
medicine unless as a primary caregiver. To their credit, our courts held that a
qualified patient is entitled to grow and possess as much marijuana as is reasonable
for their medical need and present a legal immunity defense in court. On the other
hand, they noted that, while we have a criminal defense, patients do not have civil
rights to a job, housing, education, organ transplants or even to grow a discrete
medical garden at home if local government imposed a ban and ban they did.

When Senate Bill 420 passed in 2003, patients took it at face value: Patients had a
legal immunity to associate with each other to cultivate and provide medicine in
various ways and be remunerated for their time, skill and services. We expected it to
legalize dispensaries statewide, like those in the Bay Area and elsewhere. Courts
instead handed local governments the power to license dispensaries or to ban them
and even ban small collectives as well as personal gardens. The arrests continued.

Last year, the legislature put an expiration tag on the SB420 collective legal defense
and adopted the MMRSA regulations leaving no legal defense for the unlicensed Download your FREE
except it was for my personal use alone. We have a couple years to make the Android or iTunes App
adjustment. There is some good in the act. It exempts a safe harbor for a 100 square
foot medical marijuana garden per parcel from regulatory control, replaces the not-
for-profit legal defense with a licensing process, controls production of solvent
extracts, gives communities latitude to license medical marijuana businesses and,
thus, expands access statewide. However, hostile local governments can still ban
patient access and gardens. Stripped of the legal defense patients have used for the
past 12 years, this means that some good people who are set in their ways soon
could face huge civil fines, property forfeitures and major felonies with years behind
bars.

Enter the Adult Use of Marijuana Act, a voter initiative headed for the November
2016 ballot, with a whole new set of laws. Is it any wonder that at least some
cannabis patients view everything with suspicion; especially those whove had run-
ins with the law? Will legalization somehow make things even worse for patients?

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The answer to both questions is a resounding, No.

Advertise For starters, AUMA reaffirms all our Prop 215 protections. Section 11362.3. (f)
states, Nothing in this section shall be construed or interpreted to amend,
at repeal, affect, restrict, or preempt laws pertaining to the Compassionate Use Act
of 1996, while 11362.45 adds that Nothing in section 11362.1 [adult
legalization] shall be construed or interpreted to amend, repeal, affect, restrict, or
preempt (i) Laws pertaining to the Compassionate Use Act of 1996.

A closer look assures us that the Adult Use initiative will ease the suffering of
California medical marijuana patients in numerous ways:

1) AUMA protects the Compassionate Use Act / Prop 215 rights of cannabis
patients, as quoted above and elsewhere;
Contact Casper Leitch
Casper@Time4Hemp.com
2) AUMA expands parental / custodial and privacy rights for cannabis patients;
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3) AUMA repeals local bans on enclosed, discrete gardens up to six plants so
patients can legally grow their medicine and share up to an ounce at a time,
statewide; and

4) AUMA lowers the cost of getting the state-ID card, relieves patients who have
one from paying sales tax, and allows for non-profits to provide low-cost
cannabis and seeds for the low income.

These are just a few reasons why we and so many other medical marijuana
patients are confident that the AUMA initiative is good medicine for our
community. And, with the SB420 defense going away soon, it seems to have
arrived just in time.

Chris Conrad, along with Mikki Norris and Jeremy Daw, is the host of LEAF
RADIO on the Time 4 Hemp network.

Chris is a well known author, consultant, public speaker, cannabis expert


witness, museum curator and internationally respected authority on cannabis,
industrial hemp, medical marijuana, cultivation, garden yields, processing,
dosages, commercial intent, personal use and cannabis culture. He teaches at
Oaksterdam University and the International Pharmacological Academy and
has given numerous presentations for continuing legal education (CLE) and
continuing medical education (CME) programs.

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The 8 Ways Canada Can Legalize Marijuana

By Dana Larsen - first printed at Huffington Post - 03/03/16

The Canadian cannabis community has launched a formal Parliamentary e-petition which outlines an eight-point
path for legalization. Main points include an immediate end to cannabis arrests, including personal cultivation
within legalization, and allowing Canadian farmers to harvest cannabis resin. Green Party Leader Elizabeth May
has sponsored the petition, and we received over 6,000 signatures in our first week online. People can keep
signing up until June 9, 2016.

Right now our petition has the 4th most signatures. Wed like to get 50,000 signatures in total. This would give us
more support than any other online petition, and keep the pressure on the Trudeau government to act quickly,
stop arrests, and get going on legalization.
The Parliament Petition has eight key points, four of which can happen right away, and four that could take a year
or so to put into place.

The first four points, which should happen right away, are:

1. Repeal the prohibition on possession and personal cultivation of cannabis. This the most important first step
and could be done very quickly. We are calling for the Liberal government to immediately stop all arrests for
personal possession and for growing cannabis for personal use. There is no need to keep busting people with a
bag of cannabis or a few plants when legalization is just around the corner.

2. Repeal Section 462.2 of the Criminal Code, which bans literature and harm reduction devices like water-pipes
and vaporizers. Unbelievably, bongs and waterpipes are still banned in Canada, and stores still get raided by
police for selling these items. (See here, here and here for example.) Books which promote the use of cannabis
are also still banned. It makes sense to repeal these silly laws right away.

3. Permit patients or their designated grower to provide medical cannabis as recommended by a physician. This
third point is related to the recent court decision which has reaffirmed the right of patients to meet their own
medical needs by growing their own cannabis as recommended by a physician. We dont want the government to
appeal this decision, and instead to act quickly to ensure that patients can keep growing their own cannabis.

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4. End police raids against community medical cannabis dispensaries, and enable
their municipal regulation, as per the position of the Union of BC Municipalities.
There are hundreds of community medical cannabis dispensaries opening in cities
and towns across Canada. Generally they are operating openly without problems, but
in some areas the RCMP has been threatening them or launching raids. Many cities
are licensing these dispensaries, but the federal laws are unclear.
The Union of BC Municipalities has asked the federal government to confirm the
power of cities to license and regulate dispensaries, and we support that move
happening right away.

The next four points are things which we want the Liberals to put into place within
one year.
5. Completely end the prohibition of cannabis, by removing it entirely from the
Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.
To truly end cannabis prohibition, cannabis needs to be removed entirely from the
Controlled Drugs and Substances Act. Laws and regulations around cannabis should
be similar to the laws around alcohol, tobacco, food products and herbal medicines.

6. Allow farmers to harvest and sell the cannabinoid-rich resin from their plants, as
per the recent resolution of the Canadian Hemp Trade Alliance.
Canadian farmers already grow large amounts of cannabis, mainly to produce seeds
for food products. These farmers also produce large amount of CBD-rich resin which
they are forced to destroy.
The Canadian Hemp Trade Alliance has asked the government for permission to
harvest and sell this resin for medical purposes, and this would provide a large
amount of low-priced CBD for patients in need.

7. For those convicted for a cannabis offence under the CDSA, on a case-by-case
basis: Grant a full pardon and amnesty for past offences, expunge criminal records
and release all prisoners currently serving time.
Ending cannabis prohibition must also make right the mistakes of the past. When we
legalize cannabis we must not forget those who are still in jail now for cannabis, or
the many Canadians with cannabis criminal records. We want a quick and easy
process for Canadians to apply to have their cannabis criminal records expunged.

8. Permit Provinces, Territories and First Nations to decide how they want to tax,
regulate and distribute cannabis as needed.
This final point is that we dont want to see a restrictive federal program in place for
cannabis. Like alcohol and tobacco, legal cannabis falls mainly under provincial
jurisdiction. We want to see the provinces, municipalities and first nations being
responsible for regulating the sale of cannabis.
This will also open up the possibility of different systems, enabling different regions to
experiment with different models as we figure out the best model for legal cannabis.
For more information, visit http://legalizepetition.ca

Click here to sign the petition.

Click here to listen to Dana Larsen as a guest on


Cannabis Culture Radio, hosted by Marc Emery, on this network.

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Medical Marijuana POWs: Ricardo Montes and Luke Scarmazzo

By Georgean Arsons - SKUNK Magazine - March 2016

I AM WRITING to suggest the relating of a timely and meaningful story of two of Californias native sons who are
presently personally paying their tolls for being caught up in the War on Drugs. Covering their experiences will
grab the attention of the public for several reasons. There is presently a bi-party national focus on criminal justice
reform and over-incarceration, not to mention majority public approval of medical marijuana legalization. The
public experience involving these native sons is still fresh in Californias citizens memories since the last reporting
in 2008. I believe publishing an in-depth article now will draw the attention of many new readers through
investigative reporting of their circumstances in 2016.

First, we know public opinion about the drug war and punishment of non-violent criminals is rapidly changing, and
even in 2008 it was evolving. Societal views about the seriousness of offenses incarcerated individuals committed
are changing. (1) Specifically, following Ricardo and Lukes sentencing for operating a medical marijuana
dispensary in Modesto, CA two members of their jury recanted their guilty votes and gave affidavits stating 20
year sentences were too severe a punishment for the convicted crimes. (2) Public opinion about lengthy
punishment terms was already transforming to support judicial latitude in sentencing and reject mandatory
minimum sentencing.

Some legislative actions have already successfully reduced sentence terms, thus freeing non-violent inmates.
Additional initiatives are being considered to reduce the prison population of non-violent drug offenders. Minority
groups are over represented in prison populations with long sentences having been meted out due to mandatory
minimums. President Obama actively began to address this issue as a priority two years ago. We are familiar with
the Clemency Project 2014 (CP14) and its focus. Others like Van Jones #cut50, Alicia Keyes #WeAreHere and
their joint Movement, #WeAreHere for
#JusticeReformNOW and many public personalities are sponsoring efforts to support a prison population
reduction. There are many organizations which are actively lobbying to assist inmates to apply for clemency. The
CA based CAN-DO Foundation, Justice through Clemency, is just one of these. http://www.candoclemency.com/

Rising above these societal issues of over-incarceration, mandatory minimums application and presently, the
public opinion wave in favor of criminal justice reform, is telling the important human story of Ricardo and Luke.
This is a story of two fathers of four young children. These children have lived nine years without their fathers
being at home to offer counsel and living life with them. These men are missing from the local workforce to earn
an income and they are unable to contribute their talents to the community through volunteer work. They are not
there to assist aging parents or to share in lifes celebratory moments all due to their long sentences.

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In November 2015 Ricardo and Luke filed their petitions for executive clemency with the
Office of the Pardon Attorney (OPA). We understand over 9000 petitions are currently
filed with OPA while over 10,000 petitions have been submitted to CP14
(there may be some duplicate filings.) However, neither OPA or CP14 make any
attempt to 1- acknowledge receipt of petitions nor 2- communicate in any manner
individual on-going status of the processing progress. By this abject neglect of basic
communications to individuals who have applied, both organizations promote, by
default, treating these inmate applicants as entities not worthy of knowing anything
about the results of their own efforts or their futures.

I am enclosing copies of both Ricardo and Lukes Memorandums in Support of


Commutation for you to read their own written statements of how they are changed men
and what they plan for their futures. In regard to their legal cases, I want you to know
the following critical points about their continuing incarceration:

1.) Luke and Ricardo are the ONLY Medical Marijuana Dispensary Operators who have
been charged with conducting a Continuing Criminal Enterprise (CCE).

2.) Luke and Ricardo are serving the longest federal prison sentences given to Medical
Marijuana Dispensary Operators.

3.) Due to changes beginning in 2009 in Department of Justice (DOJ) charging


practices; new Congressional laws enacted beginning in 2014 and effective through
2016 and, importantly, a recent federal court ruling that prevents the DOJ from taking
action against state-compliant medical marijuana owners/operators (6), Luke and
Ricardo would not be charged today if they were operating a Medical Marijuana
Dispensary in CA.

I am Ricardo and Lukes clemency advocate and am writing on their behalves asking for
consideration to bring their new and present story to the public. We are seeking support
from citizens who may remember this case and, importantly, from those who are not
familiar with the case but likely will be keenly interested in learning about it. By taking a
second look at what happened in 2006-2008 and bringing the public up-to-date on their
status, in light of todays trends, coverage of these men will be well-received.

Click here to sign petition to free Ricardo and Luke at Change.org

Total Number of Arrests in the US in 1973 and in 2014


In 1973, there were 328,670 arrests reported by the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) for drug law violations, out of a
total 9,027,700 arrests nationwide for all offenses. Also that year, authorities reported 380,560 arrests for all violent crimes
and 1,448,700 arrests for all property offenses.

In 2014, there were 1,561,231 arrests for drug law violations out of a total 11,205,833 arrests nationwide for all offenses.
Also in 2014, authorities reported 498,666 arrests for all violent crimes and 1,553,980 arrests for all property offenses.

Source:
FBI Uniform Crime Reports 1973 - Bureau of Justice Statistics, accessed Oct. 29, 2012.
"Crime in the United States 2014 - Arrests," FBI Uniform Crime Report (Washington, DC: US Dept. of Justice, September 2015), p. 1.

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Stats For The 114th Week Of Broadcasting At
Time 4 Hemp: 01/20/14 03/04/16
On Spreaker/iHeartradio: 243,780 Program hours were listened to.
Of the program hours that were listened to;
160,925 were listened to on Spreaker.com
82,855 were listened to on iHeartRadio.com
Total number of original segments produced: 1,653
8,893 MP3s of these segments were downloaded; Download for FREE at your
4,974 LIKES were left on these segments. Android and iTunes Stores
12,988 People have subscribe to the rss feed.

On SoundCloud: 46,257 Program hours were listened to.


Of the program hours that were listened to;
4,863 Segments were downloaded;
1027 LIKES were left on segments listened to by the audience.
2,452 People subscribe to the rss feed.

On Tumblr: 45,033 Program hours were listened to.


Of the program hours that were listened to;
7,647 Segments were downloaded;
852 LIKES were left on segments listened to by the audience.
877 People subscribe to the rss feed.

The YouTube channel has 149,566 segment views and 931 subscribers.

The FaceBook Time4Hemp Group Page has 6,766 likes and the posts reach an
average of 32,754 people per week.

My FaceBook PROFILE Page has 5,000 friends and 784 followers.

Twitter 49,832 FOLLOWERS. The Twitter-Feed has tweeted 39,287 tweets.

The Time 4 Hemp Android App released 11/12/14 2,357 downloaded.

The Time 4 Hemp iTunes App released 04/20/15 941 downloaded.

The WordPress Time 4 Hemp plug-in released 04/20/15 483 installations.

Many of our hosts, as well as some of our sponsors, produce video material that is
broadcast on the Time 4 Hemp ROKU-TV network, but I havent figured out yet how
to get statistics about our audience on that platform. ROKU-TV is an amazing
entertainment outlet that has over 185-million global subscribers; is built into many of
todays new televisions; and is included with Windows 10.
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The monthly analytics are ALWAYS incorrect no matter how much effort is put into getting them right. WHY?
Media outlets conclude that for every 100,000 tractable listeners there is a good chance that AT LEAST HALF
of those listeners are enjoying the program WITH one or more other people. Below are the TRACTABLE
numbers that we can locate. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND that they are only a small peek of the big picture.

Total number of hours listened to and/or viewed:


On Spreaker/iHeartradio: 243,780
On SoundCloud: 46,257
On Tumblr: 45,033
On YouTube: 149,566
Total: 484,636 on JUST THESE 4 platforms.

Total number of MP3 downloads:


On Spreaker/iHeartradio: 8,893
On SoundCloud: 4,863
On Tumblr: 7,647
Total: 21,403 on JUST THESE 3 platforms.

Total number of subscribers to our content:


Spreaker/iHeartradio: 12,988
SoundCloud: 2,452
Tumblr: 877
iTunes: 941
Google+: 2,357
WordPress Plug-In 483
FaceBook page reach: 32,754
FaceBook Profile: 5,000
Twitter: 49,832
On YouTube 931
Joint Conversations 1,863
Total: 110,478 on JUST THESE 11 platforms
Time4Hemp.com is growing a cannabis garden in front of high definition cameras that are LIVE-
STREAMING onto the Internet 24-hours a day, 7-days a week! You can watch cannabis be grown and
harvested from seed to bud to smoke and pick up some great gardening tips along the way.

The HTML to view this at is: https://time4hemp.com/live-marijuana-grow-feed/

This is drawing a high volume of traffic to the website and is going to be a 2-year project. If things go as
planned - every 17-weeks the plants will be harvested and a larger garden will be established in its place.
We've started off with a few legal tent and closet grows and will be working up to a large green house and
even some outdoor growing - all in front of HD camera's that will be steaming 24-07.

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Health Canada Says: Feds Should Consider 9 Factors
Jim Bronskill, The Huffington Post - 03/05/2016

OTTAWA As the Liberal government began moving on its commitment to legalize marijuana, Health Canada
flagged nine key considerations from health risks and benefits to the experience of other jurisdictions, newly
obtained documents show.

A November 2015 ministerial briefing presentation, "Legalizing & Regulating Marijuana," was released to The
Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act. Some conclusions and recommendations were withheld from
release, but the document offers insight into how the new government will navigate the issue. A look at the nine
areas cited by Health Canada:

Canadian marijuana usage rates 11 per cent of the population age 15 and older used marijuana in the past
year, according to a 2013 survey. Use was highest among 20-24 year-olds at 26 per cent. The presentation
characterizes this as "relatively low overall rates of usage" and points to evidence that use declines with age.

Evidence of health benefits and risks There is some evidence of limited therapeutic benefit to marijuana use
for managing symptoms of chemotherapy, neuropathic pain and treatment-resistant epilepsy in children. But the
health-community consensus is that regular recreational usage carries risks, including long-term cognitive ones for
those under 25.

International legal framework Canada is party to a global legal framework on psychotropic drugs, including the
1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs. It does not allow for legalization but allows leeway on the kinds of
sanctions imposed. The International Narcotics Control Board expressed regret over Uruguay's decision to legalize
marijuana, but it is not clear what practical impact this has had, Health Canada notes. A UN special session on the
World Drug Problem is slated for next month.

Canadian regime for medical marijuana The 2013 Marijuana for Medical Purposes Regulations attempted to
shift the medical marijuana industry to licensed producers, away from home growers. But thousands of Canadians
were allowed to possess or grow marijuana pending a court ruling that came down last month.

Domestic legal context The court ruling handed down in February affirmed the right of people to grow their
own medical marijuana. The presentation, drafted before the ruling, says the decision and others from the courts
could affect government choices on the new legal regime.

Role of provincial and territorial governments The federal and provincial / territorial governments would be
able to regulate in many of the same areas concerning access to legal marijuana. The federal government could
set minimum standards, but provinces and territories might enact more stringent requirements on where pot is
consumed, retail sale locations or minimum age for purchase. Achieving a national approach will require close co-
operation.

Experience of other jurisdictions While Uruguay adopted tight government control, Colorado and Washington
states chose models that spurred involvement of commercial interests, increasing risks to health and safety. Early
lessons from the U.S. reinforce the need to take time to implement a legalized model, figuring out the complexities
of how best to protect public health.

Law enforcement issues Organized crime groups are heavily involved in the marijuana trade. Illicit grow
operations exist in all parts of Canada. Police-reported drug-impaired driving incidents are a small fraction of actual
drug-impaired driving incidents, as it is difficult to recognize the signs. Given all this, a national approach will
require police agencies to work together.

Youth justice The Youth Criminal Justice Act requires police to consider use of measures such as warnings
and referrals to community programs for those ages 12 through 17. Careful consideration will need to be given to
how the new regime will be enforced when it comes to young people.

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The U.S. May Support Revolutionary Reform at International Drug Policy
By: Kyle Jaeger at attn.com - 03/10/16

In a dramatic departure from the "War on Drugs" policy of the last 40 years,
the U.S. may support international drug reform measures that would open the
doors to decriminalization in countries around the world, a U.S. State
Department official revealed on March 08, 2016.

William Brownfield, the Assistant Secretary of State for International Narcotics


and Law Enforcement Affairs, fielded questions from reporters about the U.S.
position on international drug reform proposals that will be taken up at a United
Nations General Assembly Special Session in April. His comments seemed to
reflect a radical shift in the federal government's attitude toward drug laws.

While Brownfield reaffirmed the country's commitment to "limiting and eventually eliminating" drug use as sanctioned at
three previous international drug conventions he said that the U.S. will support a "pragmatic approach to reform of global
drug policy" that "calls for greater focus on public health and healthcare as relates to the drug issue, rehabilitation, treatment,
education." He explained:

"We will call for pragmatic and concrete criminal justice reform, areas such as alternatives to incarceration or drug courts, or
sentencing reform. In other words, as President Obama has said many times publicly, to decriminalize much of the basic
behavior in drug consumption in order to focus scarce law enforcement resources on the greater challenge of the large
transnational criminal organizations."

There are two sides of the drug policy spectra, Brownfield said. There are those who believe that regulated legalization is the
best practice to reduce drug abuse; and oppositely, there are those who feel that penalizing and incarcerating drug offenders
will ultimately curb abuse, according to Brownfield. The goal of this year's international drug convention will be to identify
policies that fall somewhere in the middle of those extremes.

No matter what the international community decides on in April, however, Brownfield emphasized that countries should have a
degree of autonomy when it comes to developing their own drug laws. "One size does not fit all," he said. "Every country is
not exactly the same. And we must be tolerant of the sovereign authority of a government to develop and apply the drug
strategy that is most effective for their condition and their reality."

To that end, if a country's government feels that the use and possession drugs for personal use ought to be decriminalized in
order to "reduce the harm caused by the product," then they should have liberty to do so, Brownfield said.

The progressive position taken by the U.S. State Department official in Tuesday's conference seemed to reveal a willingness
to move past Drug War-era policies of strict criminalization on a federal level. That said, Brownfield did not stray far from the
federal line when it came to marijuana. He does, however, seem to differentiate between recreational and medical
marijuana.

"Our objective remains that of limiting and eventually eliminating the use of marijuana in the United States of America
because of its harm and its dangers, accepting and not entering into the medical exception issue, which I acknowledge is still
out there, and we said that is still our objective," Brownfield said.

"It is the position of the United States Government, for example, that despite the fact that four of our states have voted to
legalize the cultivation, production, sale, purchase, and consumption of cannabis, or marijuana, that we are still in compliance
with our treaty obligations, because first, the federal law, national law, still proscribes and prohibits marijuana; and second,
because the objective, as asserted by the states themselves, is still to reduce the harm caused by the consumption or
marijuana."

If the member states of the United Nations, including the U.S., support the type of international drug reform agenda that
Brownfield outlined, the implications could be wide-ranging. ATTN: previously reported on a leaked document from the United
Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, which indicated that the international agency supported decriminalization in the interest of
public health and criminal justice reform.

Only one member state, Portugal, has decriminalized the use and possession of drugs for personal use; but it's possible that
others would follow suit if the United Nations backed the policy. And for countries such as Canada, which has expressed
interest in legalizing marijuana at the federal level, this revised approach to drug policy might clarify international laws that
might have otherwise deterred the country from moving forward with its own marijuana reform measures.

That said, there must be consensus among UN member states. And while the U.S. has historically informed international drug
policy, we will have to wait until April's convention to fully understand how Brownfield's "pragmatic approach" holds up.
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Hemp Seed Flour Dog Treats Walnut Coconut Hemp Seed Bites
Do you ever get a sugar craving and want to have
This was found at HippieButter.com. It's a great
tasting dog treat for our best friends who also need something a little more nutritious? Then this recipe
hemp seeds to maintain overall health. for walnut coconut hemp seed bites is just what
you're looking for.
Time Required: 30-mins
Time Required:
Prep - 10 mins; Cook - 10 mins.
Yields: depends on how big your dog is.
Yields: 15
What You Need:
1 Cups Hemp Seed Flour
What You Need:
1 Cups Bleached Flour
1 Cup of whole raw walnuts
2 TBS Hemp Seed Oil
20 Pitted medjool dates
1 Cup Water
Cup whole raw walnuts, roughly chopped
Cup All Natural Peanut Butter
3 Tbsp shredded coconut
3 Tbsp hemp seeds
Steps:
Pre-heat oven to 350.
Steps
Mix together a half cup of Hippie Butter Hemp Seed
Place 1 cup of whole raw walnuts into your food
Flour, a half cup of Bleached Flour, 2 TBS of Hippie
processor and process until crumbly and no large
Butter Hemp Seed Oil, one cup of water and a half
chunks remain.
cup of All Natural Peanut Butter. Once mixed,
gradually ad the remaining flours and stir slow until
Add the dates and process until the dates are
you have made a large ball of dough.
chopped and has combined with the walnuts.

Sprinkle ball of dough with a little flour and on top Add the roughly chopped walnuts, shredded
and roll out to a half inch thickness. coconut, and hemp seeds to the processor and
pulse until everything is combined.
Cut it into any size dog treat you want, depending on
the size you think your dog would most enjoy. You Remove mixture from processor and put into a
can also use dog cookie molds should you have any. small bowl.

Place on an un-greased cooking sheet bake for 20 Scoop mixture using a tablespoon and use your
minutes. Let cool and serve.
hands to roll into a ball.

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How To Make Cannabis Cooking Oil

1.) Choose your cooking oil base. Marijuana is not water soluble. It is fat soluble meaning you need cooking oils with high fat
contents. Canola oil works well. You may also choose olive or coconut oil. However, olive and coconut oils have lower boiling
points than Canola oil. Choose your base depending on your application. If your final dish's recipe calls for a particular type of
oil, consider that or a reliable substitute as an appropriate oil base.

2.) Grind your marijuana. You want to start with dry marijuana. You may choose to stick with only the flowers. Some people will
use all parts of the plant. Keep in mind that you will want to strain your oil later. Try not to grind your pot so finely that it will go
through your strainer. A coffee grinder or food processor will work well. Just don't turn your marijuana into powder.

3.) Mix your oil and marijuana. The strength of your cannabis cooking oil will vary by your mixture. Pour your oil into a slow
cooker, double boiler, or saucepan. Add your ground marijuana and stir. Make sure all your marijuana is covered in oil.
If you don't know what mixture will work, start with a mixture of two parts oil to one part marijuana by volume. For example, mix
2 cups of oil with 1 cup of ground marijuana or 100 milliliters of oil to 50 milliliters of marijuana.

4.) Heat the mixture to dissolve the cannabis into the oil. How you heat your mixture will depend on what you are cooking in.
How much you are cooking will also impact your cooking method. The goal is to get your oil and pot mixture hot without
scorching. Stir the mixture frequently. You can add a little water to the mix to avoid scorching. If using a slow cooker, cook the
mixture on low for at least 6 hours. You may extend that to three days for a better infusion. If using a double boiler, cook on low
for 6-8 hours. Eight hours will give you a better infusion. Stir occasionally and keep a close eye on your water level. Don't let
your double boiler go dry. If using a saucepan, cook on low for no less than 3 hours. Stir frequently to avoid scorching. This
method will be most susceptible to scorching.

5.) Strain the oil. Do this while the oil is still hot for best results. You can strain the oil using a wire strainer to remove the larger
pieces of marijuana. If you still have solids you want to get rid of, strain a second time through a coffee strainer. This will take a
lot of time so be careful and patient. You may want to do small batches while you continue to simmer the mixture.

Alternately, you can do your straining through cheesecloth. Use multiple layers for more filtration. Put your cheesecloth over
the top of a large mixing bowl. Secure the sides with a rubber band. Pour the mixture into the bowl. If you can get cheesecloth,
this method is often preferred because you can filter more at a time than you can with a coffee strainer. If you only have small
coffee filters, try using a rubber band for protection. Find a tall glass and place the coffee strainer on top. Cup the top a little
into the glass. Use a rubber band around the top of the glass and over the edges of the filter to hold the filter in place.
If you use a glass container to pour your hot oil into, heat your glass up first. Consider running your glass under warm water
and then scalding hot water for a few minutes. This should keep the glass from shattering from the intense heat.

6.) Store your oil for later use. When your oil has been strained, store your oil in a proper container with an airtight lid. Your oil
will lose potency when exposed to oxygen. It will stay good for about two months. You can extend the shelf life longer by
refrigerating it.

7.) Substitute your cannabis cooking oil for a portion of your recipe's requirement. Your cooking oil will likely be very potent.
You probably do not want to substitute all of your cooking oil with marijuana infused oil. Try substituting only a small portion
such as half fluid ounce or more until you know the strength of your oil.

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Policing For Profit
By Judge James Gray
One of the cardinal rules of life is that Incentives Matter. As stated so long ago by
Adam Smith, the Invisible Hand of economic incentives is always involved in
most of the decisions we make. It may not always control the outcome, but (in
addition to efficiently guiding the allocation of goods and services through a
pricing system) it virtually always plays a part in it. That is why the present laws
governing the forfeiture of assets involved in transactions of illicit drugs (and from
many lawful activities as well) must be changed. Why? Because Liberty demands
that the people of our country not be subjected to the institutional corruptions that
can be caused by the economic incentives of policing for profit.

As a practical matter, Liberty and asset forfeiture do not have to be mutually inconsistent. If a person smuggles,
possesses with intent to sell or sells presently illicit drugs, the assets used to accomplish those ends, or the assets
that are purchased from the proceeds thereof, can and should be forfeited to the government. But that should
occur only after that person has been charged with and convicted of one of those offenses. (In the meantime, the
assets can be confiscated but held in trust for a reasonable period of time pending that conviction.) Then once that
person is convicted, the same jury should decide whether those assets were so used or purchased. If that is the
jurys finding, forfeit them. But then deposit the forfeited cash or assets into the governments general fund not to
the police.

Recently the California District Attorneys Association was successful in killing a bill in Sacramento that would
simply have required a conviction before a forfeiture could occur. Why the concern? Well, according to a 1995
study by the Cato Institute, the owners of forfeited property are not even charged with such a crime about 80
percent of the time! Imagine the large numbers of innocent people who were wrongly deprived of their liberty and
property because of this procedure. Of course the police need to be appropriately funded, but providing them with
economic incentives to procure any of that funding can result in institutional corruptions. We need our institutions
to protect our liberties from each other and also from the police! We must change the incentives accordingly!

Value of Asset Forfeiture Recoveries by US Attorneys Judge James Gray is the 2012 and 2016 Libertarian
candidate for Vice President, along with Gov. Gary
Year Asset Value Annual %Chg Johnson as the candidate for President.
1989 $285,000,039 --
1990 451,870,952 +58.6% Click here to visit his Time 4 Hemp archive page.
1991 596,879,728 +32.1%
1992 325,786,450 -45.4%
1993 385,000,701 +18.2%
1994 418,224,247 +8.6%
1995 464,666,914 +11.1%
1996 377,527,900 -18.8%
1997 570,656,170 +51.2%
1998 280,808,572 -50.8%
1999 535,767,852 +90.8%
2000 312,676,413 -41.6%
2001 199,043,103 -36.3%
2002 322,246,408 +61.9%
2003 342,862,000 +6.4%
2004 300,779,267 -12.3% Between 1989 and 2010, an estimated $12.6 billion
2005 313,866,115 +4.4% was seized by US Attorneys in asset forfeiture
2006 841,094,697 +168.0% cases. The growth rate during that time averaged
2007 1,323,094,697 +57.3% +19.4% annually. For just 2010 alone, the value of
2008 1,103,810,683 -16.6% assets seized grew by +52.8% over 2009 and was
2009 1,129,381,466 +2.3% six times greater than the total for 1989.
2010 1,786,567,692 +58.2%
TOTAL $12,667,612,066 +19.4% Learn more at: DrugWarFacts.org

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Florida Civil Asset Forfeiture Laws Soon To Change
Emily Gray Brostious/Florida Sun Time - 03/06/16

The Florida Senate has voted unanimously to pass SB 1044, which would reform the states
Contraband Forfeiture Act, as reported by Drug Policy Alliance (DPA). The bill was introduced
by Sen. Jeff Brandes and now heads to the Florida House of Representatives for a floor vote.

This is a tremendous step towards reforming Floridas outdated forfeiture laws. The unanimity
of the Senate vote speaks volumes to the necessity of these important reforms, Theshia
Naidoo, Senior Staff Attorney for DPA, said in a statement. The House needs to act quickly to
pass this law when it meets next week.

Civil asset forfeiture allows law enforcement officials to seize property they suspect has been
involved in criminal activity. The property owners dont have to be arrested or convicted of a
crime for law enforcement to take their property, including cash, cars and even real estate,
which police can keep or sell.

Gov Mead Signs Asset Forfeiture Bill Into Law


Laura Hancock/Wyoming Star Tribune - 02/29/16

CHEYENNE Gov. Matt Mead signed into law Monday a bill that reforms state rules that allow
police to seize cash, cars and other property of people suspected in drug crimes, even if theyre
never charged in court. Senate File 46 was the first bill of the 2016 state legislative session that
Mead signed into law. Last year, Mead vetoed a civil asset forfeiture reform bill that went further
than SF46.

Its an improvement, and again were very thankful for your work, Mead told Sen. Leland
Christensen, chairman of the Joint Judiciary Committee, which sponsored the bill. Under the
current law, property can be seized if there is probable cause that it is tied to drug crimes. SF46,
which the House and Senate unanimously passed, requires a hearing scheduled within 30 days
of the seizure, with a judge deciding whether there is probable cause for the state to proceed
with the forfeiture process.

The Wyoming Attorney Generals office would be required under the law to notify people known
as third-party owners such as spouses and banks that hold the title on a vehicle of the
seizure. If judges believe the forfeiture is grossly disproportionate to the offense, they can stop
the forfeiture or reduce the amount being taken. If property owners can prove theyre innocent,
they can get attorneys fees and costs and damages from the state.

SF46 keeps the proceedings in civil court, meaning people dont have the right to a state-
provided attorney if theyre poor. The proceedings are separate from any criminal case the state
may be pursuing against the property owner

Wisconsin Rep Joel Kleefisch And Cops Kill Forfeiture Reform


M.D. Kittle/WatchDog.org - 03/02/16

MADISON, Wis. After what appeared to be strong bipartisan support for civil asset forfeiture reform, the legislation has died on
the vine. Assembly Bill 537 succumbed to a committee chairman who openly loathed it, and will not get a hearing in the
Senates Labor and Government Reform Committee. State Rep. Joel Kleefisch, R-Oconomowoc, chairman of the Assembly
Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee, did not like the reform bill, which would provide protections against law
enforcement seizure of private property. Joel very much does not support the bill, said Ashlee Moore, Kleefischs chief of staff.

Toward the end of last months rapid-fire Assembly winter session, before representatives moved from lawmaking to
campaigning, the bill was transferred from the recalcitrant Kleefisch Criminal Justice Committee to the Assembly Rules
committee. By then, there just wasnt enough time to move the bill along before the Assembly closed up shop, according to Kit
Beyer, spokeswoman for Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, R-Rochester. Mike Mikalsen, spokesman for Sen. Stephen Nass, R-
Whitewater, said the law enforcement community lobbied hard against the reform measure, framing the bill as anti-police.
Mikalsen said the Assembly appeared to have the votes before a campaign of misinformation by the Sheriffs Association, the
Wisconsin Chiefs of Police Association, and district attorneys. It wont be able to move forward this year because the assembly
did not take up its version, he said. Nass is chairman of the Senate Labor and Government Reform Committee, where the
Senate version of the bill stalled. The Senate doesnt like to vote on bill if the Assembly doesnt take it up. At this point it's dead

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