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DEFENCE OF HOLY PROPHET, SAIYIDUNA

UMAR, SAIYIDUNA HATIB ,IMAM MUSLIM AND
SAHIH MUSLIM AGAINST THE FALSE
ALLEGATIONS OF ENGINEER ALI MIRZA OF
JHELUM
BY AHLUSSUNNAH VS ALI MIRZA
Saiyudna Ibn Abi Baltaah was a Great S:ah:a:bi: and one who had take part in the
War of Badr.

But he committed a mistake , an error. He attemted to revealed a Secret Of Holy

Prophet to the Polytheists of Makkah/Maccah.

Imam Muslim in S:ah:i:h: Muslim have brought this tradition.

Tradition Number := [6401] 161 - (2494)

The Tradition says :=

[64011 161 - (2494)

"We set out, with our horses
galloping, and we found the
woman. We said: 'Give us the
letter.' She said: 'I do not have a
letter.' We said: 'Either you give
us the letter, or we will remove
your clothes (to search for the
letter).' So she brought it out
from her braided hair, and we
brought it to the Messenger of
Allah i&. And in it (was written):

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'From Htib bin Abl Balt'ah' to

some of the idolaters of Makkah,
telling them something about the
Messenger of Allah.
Messenger of Allah
Said O
Htib, what is this?' He said: 'Do
not be hasty in judging me, 0
Messenger of Allah. I am a man
who was attached to the Quraish'

- Sufyn (a sub narrator) said:

'He was an ally of theirs, but he
was not one of them' - 'and the
MuhjirIn

..with you have relatives

who will protect their families. As

I have no blood ties among them,
I wanted to do them a favor so
that they would protect my
family.
I did not do it out of
disbelief or because I apostatized
from my religion, nor because I
approved of disbelief after
becoming Muslim."
"The Messenger of Allah
said: 'He has spoken the truth.'

'Umar said: '0 Messenger of Allah,

let me strike the neck of this
hypocrite.[Muna:fiq]
' He () said: "He was
present at (the battle of) Badr, and
you do not know, perhaps Allah
looked upon the people of Badr
and said:
'Do what you wish, for I
have forgiven you.'
Then Allah
revealed the words: '0 you who believe! Take not My enemies and
your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and
polytheists) as friends.'
[A1-Mumtahanah 60:1. ]
This is the tradition in S:ah:i:h: Muslim.

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This sheweth that the Holy Prophet did not declared H:at:ib RD: as Kafir or Muna:fiq in the
Technical meaning . That is the word Muna:fiq stated by Saiyiduna: Umar Rad:I Yallahu Anhu was
not in the Term of Law [Shar] but in the very literal meaning.
Reasons for taking the term in Literal meaning.
1] When Siyiduna: H:at:ib [Ibn Abi Baltaah RD:] said
I did not do it out of from my religion, nor because I disbelief or because I apostatized approved of
disbelief after becoming Muslim."
Holy Prophet Confirmed his sentences as follow:

The tradition of Holy Muslim Does Say that Holy Prophet did Say:=

He has spoken the truth.

In this case after the confirmation by the Holy Prophet Saiyiduna: Umar RD: cannot doubt the very
faith of Siyiduna: H:at:ib RD:.
So he used the word as a word of Arabic and in the Literal Meaning which pre-existed in Arabic
Language even before the birth and Propherhood of Holy Prophet.
2] If Saiyiduna Umar RD: had used this word as a Term of Law {SH-R} then Holy Prophet Peace
Be Upon Him Must Have Corrected Him by contradicting Him that H:a:t:ib Ibn Abi Baltaah RD: is
not a Muna:fiq.
So the allegation of Apostate Ali Mirza on Saiyiduna: Umar RD: that in case H:at:ib RD: was a Muslim
Saiyiduna: Umar committed a great error by declaring him a Muna:fiq becomes incorrect and wrong.

So why Holy Prophet did not Contradict Saiyiduna: Umar RD: when he declared H:a:t:ib as a Muna:fiq,
is due to the reason Saiyiduna: Umar RD: did not used the word Muna:fiq as a term of Sh-r,BUT in a
Literal Meaning.

3] The same tradition is found in Musnad Ahmad. See Tradition 829

Ali ibn Abu Talib reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent for
me an Az-Zubair ibn Al-Awwam while we were both on horseback and he said, Go to such-
and-such meadow. There is a woman there who has a letter with her from Hatib to the
idolaters; bring her to me. We found her along with one of her camels just as the Prophet
described her. We said, Give us the letter you have with you. She said, I do not have a latter.
We searched her and the camel and my companion said, I do not see it. I said, The Prophet
does not lie; by the one in whose hand is my soul, I will strip her until she gives it up! She put
her hand in the know of her shawl and brought out the letter. We returned to the Prophet and they
said, O Messenger of Allah, Hatib has betrayed the believers! Let us strike his neck! The
Prophet said, O Hatib, what made you do it? Hatib said, O Messenger of Allah, do not be
hasty with me for I believe in Allah and His Messenger, but I had no one to protect my family
and my wealth in Mecca, although every one of your companions has someone here to protect
his family and his wealth. The Prophet said, He has been truthful, so do not say anything to
him except goodness.

Umar said, O Messenger of Allah, verily, he has betrayed Allah and

His Messenger

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(Innahu Qad Khanallah Va R-su:l-hu) and the believers, so let me strike his
neck!

The Prophet said, Is he not among those who fought with us at the battle of Badr? You do
not know if perhaps Allah the Exalted has pardoned him and He has said: do whatever you
will because I have guaranteed for you Paradise. Upon hearing this, Umar started weeping
and he said, Allah the Exalted and His Messenger know best.

829

This tradition of Masnad explaineth that the word Muna:fiq was in the meaning of Kha:in and
in the meaning of One Who Doeth Not Believe in ALL-H and His Prophet in Heart and
Purporteth to be a Believer. But One Who Betrays. Not all Betrayals are Nifa:q.

So The Word Munafiq in the Tradition of Muslim 6401 is in the meaning of a Betrayer and not
in the meaning of One Who doeth not Believe but Purporteth to believe but one who
transgresses or exposes the secret of Holy Prophet.

4] Ima:m Muslim have brought the tradition as follow:

Chapter 36. The Virtues Of Htib Bin AbI Balta'ah And

The People Of Badr, May Allah Be Pleased With Them MuhjirIn

If Saiyiduna: Umar RD: Had used the word Muna:fiq as a Term Of Law
[Sh-r-h] Ima:m Muslim must not have brought this tradition in the
said chapter.
CONSPARACY OF ENGINER ALI: MIRZA AGAINST HOLY PROPHET (S:--
V-S) SAIYIDUNA UMAR RD: , SAIYIDUNA H:AT:IB AND IMAM MUSLIM)
1]Engineer Ali: Mirza tries to make a dilemma that if Saiyiduna H:a:t:ib
was a Muslim then Saiyiduna: Umar RD: became a Kafir
[Nau:dh:ubillah] since one who call a Muslim as a Kafir then his Takfi:r
returns upon himself. If Saiyiduna Umar RD: is still a Muslim then Ibn
Abi Baltaah [H:a:t:ib] RD: is a Kafir/Muna:fiq. The response to this
dilemma is that the horns of the DILEMMA are broken. The word
Munafiq is not used in the Technical Meaning i.e not as a Technical
Term but in a Literal Meaning, a meaning which has a Pre Existence i.e
it pre-existeth and existeth even before Holy Prophet was born and
Prophetized. Now every thing is clear.
2]Additionally Apostate Engineer wants to shew his followers that even
Holy Prophet accepted that Ibn Abi Baltaah was a Kafir or a Muna:fiq.
But if this was the case then Imam Muslim must not have considered it
among the virtues of Saiyiduna: H:t:ib Bin Abi Balta'ah RD: .

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3]Engineer Ali: Mirza tries to shew in his apostate speech that Holy
Prophet was in doubt whether [Saiyiduna:] H:a:t:ib Ibn Abi Baltaah RD:
was to be forgiven or not. But this is because Engineer Ali Mirza
destructive mind of the Apostate has not pointed at the following
tradition:

[6403] 162 - (2495) .

It was
narrated from Jbir that a Slave of
H:t:ib came to the Messenger of ALL-H,
complaining about H:t:ib.
He said: "0 Messenger of ALL-H,
H:t:ib is going to go to Hell." The
Messenger of Allah said: "Thou
art lying, he is not going to go to
Hell, for he was present at (the Battle/War of) Badr and Al-Hudaibiyah."
This completeth the proof that Holy Prophet was not in doubt that H:a:t:ib RD: was a Muslim .
He was not going to Hell . Holy Prophet was speaking the truth. So why he said a sentence
which has an apparent doubt in it.

He (Holy Prophet) said: "He was present at (the battle of) Badr, and you do not know, perhaps Allah
looked upon the people of Badr and said: 'Do what you wish, for I have forgiven you.' Then Allah
revealed the words: '0 you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and
polytheists) as friends.'

[A1-Mumtahanah 60:1]

The answer is very simple this is a Doubt of Majesty.

Plural of Majesty is used by ALL-H for Himself , and this does not mean any plurality of
Hypostases . Since ALL-H is Absolutely Unique. And Plurality of Hypostases are Self Absurd in the
Divine Essence [Dha:tul Ba:ri:]. Similarly this is a Doubt of Majesty.A doubt of Majesty means
that the words of certainty and certitudes may not be used for Divine Essence [ALL-H] to shew that
Divine Power is more than the Divine Promise and not to shew doubt in the Promise.

Laalla is some time use to shew Divine Power/ Omnipotence. DIVINE OMNIPOTENCE IS EVEN UPON
DIVINE PROMISE. This refutes the Mutazilite claim that it is not in Divine Omnipotence that Divine
Essence violateeth His Promise. Silsilah of Khairabadi and Late ZubairAli: Zai were also of these
views. But all the True and Real Ahlussunnah do believe that Divine Essence Hath Omnipotence over
the Violation of His made Promises. That is Violation is not an ABSOLUTE ABSURD/ ABSOLUTE
IMPOSSIBLE but a Relative Absurd/ Relative Impossible. An Absolute Absurd is not in Divine Power
like a Parallel Deity [Shari:k Al Ba:ri:]. But a Relative Absurd is in Divine Power yet it is never to be
exercised and never to be practiced by the Divine Essence [Dh:a:tul Ba:ri:].

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Ali Mirza is a Mutazilite in this regaerd that is why he does not believe in Divine Omnipotence over
the violation of Divine Promises.

It must be noted that Absolute Cpontingencey /Absolute Possibility does not imply doubts in Non
Occurance if it is Relatively Absurd/ Occurancial Impossible.

TO THE FOLLOWERS OF APOSTATE ENGINEER ALI MIRZA

Up till now no Ahlussunnah has declared a Badri S:ah:abi as a Muna:fiq in the Technical meaning.

Fafd: of the Heretic Engineer is once again Exposed. How many examples are needed to convince
you that Engineer of Jhelum is a Sadistic Apostate.

Do you still need mor evidence that he is the most heretic mind of the current century.

05-09-1438 AH and 01-06-2017 ce

AHLUSSUNNAH VS ENGINEER ALI MIRZA

Supposed Case
Let it be supposed for the sake of an argument that the Engineer ALI MIRZA is
correct [May God Forbid] in his view that Saiyiduna: Umar RD: Claimed that H;a:t:ib
Ibn Abi Baltaah was a Muna:fiq in the terminological meaning with the following
definition.

A Muna:fiq is one who purporteth to believe in Religion Of Islam , but actually

denieth the Religion (secretly).

There are two Possible Objections in the Supposed Case.

THE FIRST POSSIBLE OBJECTION

In this SUPPOSED case the First Possible Objection Of Ali: Mirza: is that according
to a tradition :=

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One who declareth a Muslim as a Ka:fir/Ca:fir and the latter is not then
the Kufr returneth to the declarer the Kufr must return to Saiyiduna:
Umar RD:.

This is the objection that is exposed in the lecture of Apostate Ali: Mirza.

But even this objection in the supposed case is incorrect.

Since Saiyiduna: Umar Opined in the supposed case that the act of Betrayal is a
Nifa:q and one who committed this act is a Muna:fiq. And Holy Prophet corrected
Him .

Points to be noted.

1] Kufr is different fron Nifa:q in some meanings and a Muna:fiq is a Kafir in the
broad meaning yet it is a different case in strict meaning.

It is just like the case that a Ahlul Kita:b [People Of the Book] is a Ka:fir [ Non
Muslim] in the BROAD MEANING yet it constitute a separate case in strict or less
broad meaning.

So the tradition : One who declareth a Muslim as a Ka:fir/Ca:fir and the

latter is not then the Kufr returneth to the declarer

Is about a\declaring some one as Ka:fir [Ka:f/Ca:f-Alif-Fa: -Ra] and not about the
Muna:fiq.

So if Saiyiduna: Umar had used the Word KA:FIR in the text of his spoken sentence,
it would have been the different case yet He [RD:} used the word MUNA:FIQ in the
text of the spoken sentence so it constitueth a different case.

Ali: Mirza of Jhelum City may make an objection on this answer that is in the
supposed case, and it is given as follow:=

A Muna:fiq is worse than a Ka:fir , so it is strange that for the latter the Kufr returns
and for the former it deoth not.

2]

A Logical answer is that Kufr is an RD: [ACCIDENT] and Not a Substance [Jauhar]
and it doeth not return by it self but by the Power of Divine Essence [DH:A:TUL
BA:RI:] so it is according to Divine Will , whether a thing returneth or it doeth not. So
if Divine Essence Himself Hath not made any statement then ALI: MIRZA cannot
compel Divine Essence to act according to his opinions and views.

We follow Divine Essence Nounly [NAMELY] ALL-H and not Ali: Mirza:.

Even Ali Mirza has no right to suggest Divine Essence what to do and what not to
do.

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This is a logical response to the invalid objection of the Engineer Ali: Mirza: of
Jhelum City of Panja:b.

Many Ahlussunnah believe that Accidents can be converted in to Substances and it

is in Divine Omnipotence to convert an Accident into a Subsatance. Some believe
that it is even in Power Of Divine Essence that an Accident can Sustain just by
Divine Omnipotence neith with out a Substance not being converted into a
Substance.

In any case it depend upon the Divine Eternal Will and not upon the suggestions of
the Engineer Ali: Mirza and his followers.

We have provided a Pure Logical and Philosophical response so that the world may
see how illogical and irrational the person of Engineer Ali: Mirza: is.

3] Additionally there seems to be a Divine Wisdom [H:ikmah/H:icmah] in the

returning of Kufr and not of Nifa:q. Since in declaring some one who is a Muslim as
Ka:fir it appears that the Declarer is refuting his apparent faith (that is Islamic Faith
in the case) , but in declaring some one as Muna:fiq his apparent faith is not
appeared to be refuted.

For example if some one declare Engineer Ali: Mirza: as Ka:fir it appears that The
Declarer is refuting the apparent faith of Ali Mirza:

But if some one declares him as a Muna:fiq it appears that The Declarer is not
refuting the apparent faith of the Engineer Ali Mirza:.

If Ali: Mirza: would have been a Muslim then the difference would have been clear
[1].

THE SECOND POSSIBLE OBJECTION ON THE SUPPOSED CASE.

1]Holy Prophet [S:AVS] Himself was in doubt that whether the A:yah is appeacable
to H:at:ib or not. Although this objection has been refuted above yet there is some
other possible replies to the Apostate Engineer Of Jhelum.

It may annoy Engineer Ali: Mirza: Of Jhelum and may amuse the followers and
lovers of S:ah:abah RD: that the very same argument can be turned against the
Irrational Former Apprentice of Irrational Teacher [2].

If Saiyiduna: H:a:t:ib was a Muna:fiq then Holy Prophet could not [/must not] apply
the Holy Verse of Qura:n on Him [i.e H:at:ib RD:].

Since Muna:fiq and Nifa:q [as Terms of Law/ Shariah] must exclude the verse
.''Do what you wish, for I have forgiven
You.

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So it is a that proof Saiyiduna: H:at:ib was not a Muna:fiq

and Saiyiduna: Umar cannot be accused of the one upon
whom Kufr returned in the supposed case as supposed
above (for sake of arguments).
2] If Kufr hath returned to Saiyiduna: Umar [Nau:dh:ubillah], Holy Prophet must
have warned him that the Kufr hath returned [from the declared one to the one who
declared ] and know you must do the Tajdi:d of I:ma:n. But this is not the case.
There fore it is false that the Kufr Hath Returned .

But Ali: Mirzas opinion implies that Holy Prophet remained silent even if a Kufr
occurred in his Holy Presence. [Naudh:-billah Va Astagh: F-rullah].

This is purely a Rafid:ite Concept OF Holy Prophet , and certainly not the Isla:mic
Concept. A concept that is against the As:mah [Infallibility and Innocence] of Holy
Prophet [S:AVS]

TO THE FOLLOWERS OF ENGINEER ALI:

How many evidences you require to know that Ali: Mirza: is an Apostate and a
Heretic. Are they still not sufficient???? For the sake of ALL-H and His Apostle ,
please drift from the Engineer Of Jhelum namely Engineer Ali: Mirza.

FOOTNOTES

[1] This example is in the Imaginary case , supposing that Engineer Ali: Mirza: is a
Muslim. But in Real case the stated above person is certainly not.

[2] Zubair Ali: Zai was not an Ahlul H:adi:th: , since he had some differences from
the True Ahlul H:adi:th: on some issues which directly expel him from the folds of
Ahlul H:adi:th: . So he may be declared as Semi Ahlul H:adi:th:. But his former
Apprentice is not An Ahlul H:adi:th: in particular and not an Ahlussunnah . Also see
the first footnote in addition to this one .

NOTE SOME ERRORS OF SPELLINGS, GRAMMAR ETC. MAY HAVE OCCURRED. SO THE
AUTHOR IS NOT REPONSIBLE FOR ANY ERROR OF THE TYPIST.

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