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    Amal Concentric Technical Manual IF YOU TOOK the time to read the last section on the retired Monobloc carb, then you know that the newer Concentric (though basically a superior design) had its share of problems. De- signed in bugs, as it were. Most of the hassle was caused by a lack of available information from abroad. ‘The few tuners who knew what they were doing sure didn't go out of their way to let anyone else know. ‘The Concentric was a lighter, slim- mer carb than the "Bloc and featured a float bowl directly under the main jet. This feature allowed the bike to be Jeaned at severe angles without affecting the flow of fuel to the main jet. How- ever, the Concentric dealt the four stroke riders a serious jolt by removing the normal pilot jet that the Monobloc had. In its place was an insidious little pressed in bushing that defied tuning. Two stroke riders didn’t have this problem, as all the two-stroke carbs came with a removable pilot jet. How- ever, they had their own problems with frothing and slide breakage. Later mod- els of the Concentric cured many of these problems, but the four stroke carbs are still coming through as of this writing with a non-adjustable pilot cir- New magnesium Amal Concentric car is now on the market. It looks just like the old one, but only weighs 15 ounces— about half the weight of the standard ‘model. The velocity stack adds to performance, bringing the effective venturi size up a few steps higher than indicated. cuit. The Mark II promises to change all that. ‘One advantage that the Concentric did offer, though, was that it could pull more horsepower on the top end out of a given motor than other comparative carbs. Dyno tests have re- peatedly backed this up. The bore of the Concentric is less interrupted than any other carb on the market as of this writing. Simply put, a 36mm Amal will flow more than a 36mm anything else. What it does to the low end response of the bike, is still open to hot debate, however. Concentric carbs come in three series: ‘The 600 Series goes 22mm, 24mm and 26mm. The 900 Series has 28mm, 30mm. and 32mm and is probably the most common Amal in use today. The 1000 Series.is generally found on rac- ing machines and comes in 34mm, 36mm and 38mm. ‘A wide range of jets is available: Pilot jets... 15 to 70 in steps of 5. Needle jets ...105 to 110 in one point jumps; special jets go to 135 in 5 point jumps. Main jets ... . 60:thru 500 in 5 point jumps and 500 thro 1000 in 40 point jumps. Alcohol jets 20 from 1000 to 1900 in 100 point jumps. Like other Amals, all the jets are interchangeable from carb to carb, Even the new Mark II can use the same jets that were good decades ago. ‘The only big changes in jetting is in the four stroke to two stroke, Pilot jets and main jets are identical in both, but needle jets and spray tubes vary. And the jet holders are different. Here is Where most tuners make their mistakes. Needle jets part number for four strokes is 622/122, while the two stroke num- ber is 622/079. A four stroke spray tube is called by its proper Christian part number of 622/074 and the two stroker is 622/075. Look at the photos for a comparison, The four stroke needle jet has a hole drilled through it and meters through the bottom hole, while the two stroke needle jet is solid on the sides and is metered through the top hole. You can easily convert one carb from the other, with the alarming exception of taking the cruddy fixed pilot circuit out of the four stroke carb. It can be done, but Jerry Burak assured us that it was most assuredly not worth the trouble. Why should he know? Simply be- cause he knows more about Amal carbs than anyone in the country. We got much information from Jerry and his partner Norm at their place of business, BURAK BYE-PRODUCTS 15170 Raymer St Van Nuys, Calif. 91405 (213) 780-1768 If this sounds like a plug, it is. But highly recommended one. Jerry sells all Amal parts and welcomes tough problems. Give him a call if you have any question regarding Amals. But not collect, OK? One of Jerry's favorite tuning tricks is take the two stroke carb (with the adjustable idle circuit) and convert it to four stroke parts and surprise people with the resultant performance gains. He claims that most of the hassle that hhas been experienced with Concentrics is because people have never known how to tune them and set them up prop- erly in the first place. Additionally, he recommends that a VITON tipped float needle be installed in any Amal and most of the loading up problems will go away. Apparently, the standard float needle allows gas to dribble in the motor at the oddest times. He sells this needle for a buck and a half and it fits Parts List for Amal Concentric Carburetors ‘SPARE PARTS LIST FOR SERIES 600, 900 & 1000 CARBURETTERS Keyio ‘Component Carburetor Carburetor Corbureton itor Sines 800 Sern 00 Soran 1000] 1 abe aeuste, ajo3s | ans | a/ogs 2 (bead unter acknut sor | sor | sore 3 Secunig screw for foat- tom andimaing:chamberten | 62z/0q0 | e2z/0ae | 622/080 & Sabie frie for usa vn mic-enbaasuster srisa | erga | — 5 Masog chamber op lar adjsir ana Tora szxosr | seas | — 5 aiingenambettop (stances). Szaocs | s2irose | yo34/084 7 Tete sidering saa | eas | 103/08 é Chokesvaive spring e2zize | e2onzs | — 5 Tivott needle (pared with neediet 622/079) 522/083 | §20/063 | tas408s 8 Throtie neede (oars with ned et 622/122) szanze | soanze | a2zne 8 Throne needle (or sicahal ony) s22/008 | S2a/o90 | 1034000 10 Choke vale 221082 | senmsz | — ie Tete sie spect coaway) 22/080 | Seevoc0 | y024v080 v Carburetor body and ele aseemty £ : : 0 Veto stack standard arenes | s2ess | — 3 \elooty stack Bn. 70mm) tong aertes | seeoes | to2ao70 Velo sack — 24m (59 mm) long es seam | — Pionet Teaoze | ian | 124/028 Needle (pore tar 2-ocle enous) sxziore | e227 | eazore Neoos jp (oetere tr &eyeleengres) sarge | seaize | Sze Need lor seotol ony) s2aic0 | 622100 | S220 det node seziize | ezyize | szzn2e Mains srerico | Sre/io0 | Sre/io0 Post reece szzoce | G2zoce | s22/088 Fest ress (for leoho! ony Ure wh 622/084 ost bow] 622/748 | “g2iyi4s | 822/140 Fost s2xo00 | 622/008 | p2zv080 Float-bow/ wagner ezzors | eaters | 822/073 Fost bowl “010! (25mm) seating 22/080 | 622/050 | 622/080 Fast Bol” —010 in. seaung wath dain lug 622/08 | b2205 | b22/085 Flot bowl 0082 m (18 am) seating 22/082 | 622/082 | 622/082 Float bowl ~ 0082 m Seating wih dan pug 22ioe7 | 22007 | a22v0s7 lot bowl —0125 m2 meena 22/051 | 622/081 | 622/081 Frat how 0125 m seating win eran pug 820/088 | 62/056 | 622/086 Foat bor 0.186 (40mm) seating (tr aleahol Soy Use wth 832/149 oat nos) e2x0se | exxose | e22/050 Fier s7eioss_ | s7e/oe9 | s76/0aa Ful (er too oni) srejoase | 376/0838 | a7sioxa8 ‘Ban. singe puah-on (fi. onde caret tino) grees | area | s76/087 Bano singe treaded Sin ASP (3 in tubing) ‘reyoo0 | 378/000. | 378/090 Bana single push on (ie bing) aria | arena | sana Ban. double, 80 push-on (in tuba} arora | ares | ares Bano, double, 180 “push-on (in. utog) sierise | arose | Sren30 Bary, Souble, 52 aushvon (2 sna) sreisi0 | aero | 37610 Banja. double, 180 -pushon (1 in 1wbng) Sraara | arercto | areer0 Banjo washer (for icahol only) wars, | tans | arr Bano at Siaj07a | 622/078 | e22/078 ‘Sano altwasher (for teas Banos on) vanes | ‘gitea | tartea Foot spite sizjon1 | eaxon | .saa10r Trette stop adjusting screw 22/077 | anor? | “e22/077 Plot sdnshing screw szzi078 | e207 | s22/076 ‘Orns 22/082 | @on/oaz | 622/082 Nees op ezios7 | e226) | r034/068 Mining-chambor op for two fvlos szerone | szayose | Pug or moang-chamber top sia | arian | = ‘0 ing fe ange seat eaznor | eat | Chokevale ude Sianis | szunos | = ‘ietkey ona Posy serewciver S2arioe | s22io | 2204 Ftoat bow! drain plog washer sears) | ezarisr | 22risi Float bow! win pug Gzanar | G2anar | ezznar Tek stem zoos | 22/089 | tos4voer Test head eros | G22yoet | tasd/oce Tester sng Najosz | tans | tosaars Tester boy = = Yosarare Maio titer waren | sao | s2aort Cae Sheath o = 218/083 ‘Aire acapter = = r0397075 all Amals. «on, the oldest to the newest And it will be standard equipment on the new Mark IL carb, Burak used to do all the tuning for J_N. Rober's. You may have heard of him, One of the tricks he use to do on JN. Husky, was t0 use the smallest capacity float (there are two available) and the biggest banjo fitting available The 5/16” LD. fitting flows like a ruined kidney. This gave less area in the float chamber and made J.N.’s bike far less susceptible to changes in alti- ‘Amal Concentric Carburetor Dimensions tude, But don't try this unless you get a lot of gas flowing in the float chamber. Slides: in Concentric Series carbs are few, but apparently sufficient for tuning. Needle selection is limited. The 600 Series goes from. 2.0 cutaway to 4.0 in 5 jumps. The 900. Series from 2.0 to 5.0 in the same jumps, and the 1000 Series from 2.0 to 3.5 likewise, The newer Mark TI will go from 2,0 to 4.0, Jerry feels that whatever shortcom- ings the Concentric may have, the per- formance gains are worth it, But, the new Mark IT is supposed to have all the benefits and none of the hassles. Series 600 and 900 Carburetors GENERAL INFORMATION ‘These carburetors are supplied right hand as standard with the tickler, throt- tle stop and pilot air adjustment posi- tioned on the right hand side as viewed from the air intake end, Left hand instruments. are available with tickler, AOR Gl Shee ee Senos inches 2a) 290-103 °«18) 2m3. ase 183 baa Ed mm 62786 aig 402i? so tas Secs vache 278 rr Te re nT 00 mm 806 tae ane Bao Garda Se Teche $00 keep the segine running when the ore 4719 ‘iewed to the serew ¢o bold thi adjustment by MAIN JET 09). The ms fhe petrol adpely wher meth thte-laries open at Hippy of fusl goer chrough the man jee ‘e"vgune ie dimlaned by he tHect ofthe edie in tha heel ES eth Sites RevEe* Reamer” "Jer" our. cer ANOTHER OF THE RIGHT SIZE. The ‘ager she number the bigeer she le Feseamerg tayo st ramon then be unicrewed fom the Jet he Carburetor Settings List 1973 EEE Ay Td Carburetor Settings List 1969, 1970, 1971 and 1972 Wepoue aND NEEDLE ET ee Mier aloes moce or fea ptral opus chough the needle a the Seer ease rena See eee ene eee easier or decane oo [ae les are identified by three grocves around the top of the needle, Rae ees in sare end a ismaectea ee aa emai ee rr. larger tutewayn say 4 and 5 give wear mistares ‘ly for searting snd. otherwise rom wich wi ALCOHOL FUELS, When using alcohol fuels the following new final setcing mane be a question of tal and cere seeordng to the ature’ f fuel iad When lcohol lute i e sdvissble to arr on the rich de coed ee ote aaa oo eo Teo = cieea ao HOW TO TUNE UP PHASES OF AMAL NEEDLE JET CARBURETTER THROTTLE OPENINGS. Up to depen trom jtesopen) 110 2 open PILOT JET|THROTTLE CUT-AWAY, te full open NEEDLE- [MAIN Jer| POSITION! SIZE 0 snore SEQUENCE A TUNING AG. 5. TUNE UP IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER, fs toma hrouthoue ee shoe ange ‘warmed up Wa ssurme normal petrls sre cseds READ REMARKS ON PAGES 6 AND 7 for each tuning device and dur the motor azine perfeciy on 8 quiet rood with a sight up padient {B'chat on east the engine int ES) sie cool ‘rir valve the angie ll 113 fll eet seams to have SS SETTING RUGCRETHD ASA RAE YOR TUNING WIN NO SETHI 1 LISTED ABOVE De Be aleli li Beleleli || Bnd, PILOT JET (te. 5) with rota in poniins 2a 5, Tetatenin ig he bt he Sup ae aan an tote isu neg the hati Seung ret th psa sto be oe ‘eter Goins £5 alert hen screw PGS di adluning wren Ear coe Ejimake engine rus regulary and far. (2) Now ge ‘Sli te’ whe egies ser ee het Staring Et Sw ard, THROTTLE CUT-AWAY with throtls In portion 2 (Bg. 8) Position chore obfetionable sping ‘the pilot mixture by trewing inthe ‘een i back again and naive Jerks wed losd 3 Tho sting, either the jet needle ‘or larger chroctle cutaway i regulred eo eure chon. SEDLE with thro in portion 4 (i. 5) conti wise range of thro oping = Vee! probaby wane iedle sell has had several Jars se Sch, FINALLY go over the idling rain for final couchen TUNING TWIN ENGINES WITH TWIN ‘CARBURETTERS ‘where each cylinder hav ies own Carbureteer. {st ofall sche ha Thou ssp scfm and pr the Tt Grip in che teh buch ch cables whieh taelah van be obulped,(Pnecet wih he Hanalebers tthe normal postion, he able aang sen vo nae oh ng tT Grp, both frends esl to open cm ing the wes of the Movers on the Sparking tun atl crete ovo sing pace ff the se "ieenahe ier 5 if on the Throw Stop. “The next ching to do i wo st each Carburezer according co paragraph, page 7, ta brain the ling by screws ie adjuting the Plot Aur Serava tor down the Tarai op Screws nai ‘the Tit opening of the Throtae: ef etencial wich Twin Carburettre thatthe Throttle Sides are a go0d ‘icin the boda, and lve tht there tno suspleton ofall se eiher the" ange atachments tothe Cylinder er okra at Te ce a ere nce a aay rn amr as ee inh or diference in he cone of ac ah beer saan fecia sinner seceenen oe Heese sent reer a ee eee ne enanecia ret them on che Thre tn with he oth rat Grip and either he Throeles ie of th Carburetor Settings 1973 ta ba fei poe ee : it Began nateery nage SS i ao : ie seat El KE SS EE oe fl er stesEztereaecesisy?e| ee lseeveeroveusesceaal, Amal Mark II Technical Manual EVEN THOUGH THE Mark Il is a breakthrough, it still has to be tuned the same way as the Concentric, or even the stately Monobloc. Refer to these sections for tuning procedures and jet- ting specifications, The same jets are used throughout, so you don’t have to throw away your box of old jets. The only new jets you'll need, will be the new high speed air bleeds, and there are only three of these. Series mumbers in the new Mark TT will be similar to the Concentric num- bering system. All they've done is add a ‘2? in front of the basic numbers The 2600 Series Mark If will come in 22, 24 and 26mm bore. The 2900 Series in'28, 30, 32 and 34mm, while the 2000 Series will be 36, 38 and 40 milli- meters across the throat. This 40 should be a highly sought after number. Probably the single biggest change to the Mark II (other than spiffy looks) is the first ever “two pilot” system. Now New Mark Il carb. Right fe, 38mm. Lett, the tuner has a choice of not only what pilot jet to use, but where he can put it, It can be located near the front or the back of the carb, depending on the need of the motor. Two stroke motors (with poor pressure drops at very low rpm) will benefit from a location closest to the venturi. The pilot hole that isn’t being used is simply blocked off. Nat- urally, standard pilot jets are used Other features of the Mark IT include the following, in no particular order: 1, Plastic cap, so you don't have to fart around with screws. 2. 5 position needle, for finer tuning without changing the needle. 3. Thicker slide. That should elim- inate the breakage problem of the past. 4, Cold start jet for choke, Uses a standard pilot jet. (larger) 5. A high flow bell that increases flow. 6. Removable high speed air bleed 30mm. jets for finer tuning. 7. Choice of floats. (But, you've had| this all along and didn't know it) 8. A stabilizer bar and mounting| holes for multi-cylinder bikes. Keeps the carbs locked in line 9. Two float tubes vented high up for| cleaner carbs, If there is any leakage, it won't dribble all over the motor like in days of old 10. Lighter weight. The new carb is| aluminum and weighs 134 pounds, while the Concentric weighed 2¥4 pounds. Other than the above reasons, the whole carb looks like it was made much more carefully than Amals of old. We're going to be trying some of them soon and checking results on the dyno and on the track, We'll keep you posted. Oh yes, they'll be coming as standard equipment on several bikes, including Bultaco and Montesa, ° All Mark II carbs will be rubber mounted for protection ag st frothing from vibration, Dimensions ee et a 2 new 2s 18 G E NUUoo a a : K L @l lec 0 “0 oe 185 4220. 98or40 cert 526495 58495 a8 _22, 24020 3020.50.52 0098 S|R|O ‘Two floats are available. Small. volume one is on right. New cap and spring/clip combo look very | Miku Needle jet, jet holder, main jet Different size tlow fittings will be available for Mark II. Removable high speed air bleeds. Burak-Bye offers this racing bell as an accessory for the Mark I! as well as the Concentric. High speed air bleeds. Richest on the left, leanest on the right. ‘ld style smail flow banjo fittings are on the left. High flow one is at right. Cages = Two stroke main jet holder on let; four stroke on right. i & @e@ ‘Two stroke needle jet on left; four strokes on right. fH ANO aims Yee eae is 50. in 212 cc se uSneMes. oa in 5. cc igo = 606 in 10 eet , $20. = 1900 in 20 cc! lig = 2000 in 100 cet Sore rane aace ar tas 0 22 put. New line of jets Is bench flowed for markings. Service Parts for Mark 2 Amal Concentric Carburetors key Ieamrtion Carburetor Carouretor Carburetor Series 2600_ Saves 2900 _” Ser 2000 ‘Component 1 ci sino oss | aoe soos : abe sr ott ter | son | son ; Ning cant ered) Setzross | tetoce_ | Soejoe Hcshoin | Eauntonse Sve iment et haza, | grain | gros Netstewn | Nn chmi op frre rare | teertoo | Sono : Terese terznen | teat | oss : Nesbesny oe dezzon | Zezwon | aeeror : Nae Go dezzyoor | Zeazoor_ | Zezioer ; Thott (ped wi 2-

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