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Bymohammad on10January,20101:11pm

Hi,
Iamverygladtoseetheintellectualshereandtheirresponses,sharingknowledge.

Iamworkingwithframe6(GE)machine,Iamreadingmanualssincelastdays..

Pleaseexplainwhatmainparametersareusedin:

"Temperaturecontrol(likemainactualexhausttemp,CPD???)"and"SpeedControl(TNH,TNRCPD????)"

asIamgettingconfusedfordifferentiatingbetweenallthesecontrol.Andpleasecanyoutellmeisthereanywaytosearchparticulartopicintopiclist,sothatican
alsoseepreviousdiscussiononthistopic.

Thanks.....

ByPeg on10January,20106:46pm

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ByCSA on11January,201012:26am
1outof1membersthoughtthispostwashelpful...

THANKS,PEG!!!

Ithinkthenew'Search'boxiskindofundersizedandlostinit'snewlocation.

mohammad,

I'mworkingonaresponsetoyourfirstpost,butthedarnedDroopSpeedControlquestionjustwillNOTgoaway.

Sopatience,please.

IthinkwhatyouseemtobemissingisthatSpeedtronicpanelsusea"minimumselect"functiontochoosethelowestvalueofFSRtocontrolthefuelflowrate.

ThereareseveralFSRvaluesthatarebeingcalculatedatalltimes.FSRSU(StartupFSR)FSRACC(AccelerationControlFSR)FSRN(SpeedControlFSR)
FSRT(TemperatureControlFSR)FSRSD(ShutdownFSR).Theseallareinputstotheminimumselectfunction,and"theleastonewins".Whentheturbineis
runningandproducingpower,FSRSUandFSRSDareusuallysetto100%tokeepthemupandoutoftheway.

Asaturbineisloadedfromzeroload,asFSRNincreasestoloadtheturbine,FSRTdecreases.WhenFSRTislessthanFSRN,thentheunitwillbeontemperature
control.

ThereisanotherFSRvalue,FSRMIN,MinimumFSR,whichissetbeamiminumlimittotrytopreventflameout.

Wedon'tknowwhatoperatorinterfaceyouhavefortheSpeedtronicturbinecontrolpanelyouhave(whichwedon'tknow,either).IfyouhaveaMarkVora
newer,oranHMIonyourMarkIV,youshouldhaveaFSRdisplay,whichwillshowthevariousvaluesallonthesamedisplay,whichcanbeveryinformative.

IfyouhaveaMarkIVwithoutanHMI,youcanstillputalltheFSRvaluesontheLogicForcingDisplayandseethemallatonce.Ifyouhaveanolder
Speedtronicpanel,well,you'llneedseveralvoltmeters.

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TherehasbeenaLOTwrittenonthissiteaboutSpeedtronicpanels,soyoushouldfindmostofwhatyou'relookingfor(exceptLVDTfeedbackcalibration
procedures,andthatprobablyain'tnevergonnahappen).

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knowtheparticularsaboutyourturbine,itsauxiliaries,itspackaging,andit'scontrolsystem.ItmightbeaFrame5,butnotall"Frame5s"arethesame!So,the
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Bymohammad on12January,201012:01pm

ThanksalotpegandCASforyourtime.
IamworkingwithMARKIVaswellasMARKVI,soiamawareof"minimumselectfunction".

PleasetellmehowSRVcontrolloopdependsonCPD.
asinmanualgiven"GTfiringtemperaturecanbedetermineasafunctionofexhausttemperatureandpressureratio.Thelatterisdeterminedfromthemeasured
CPD."
Plzelaborate.

ByCSA on12January,20109:11pm

Somanyquestions,andsolittlepatience.Whileyourdesiretolearnandunderstandisadmirable,pleaserememberthisisafreeforumandweusuallymeetor
exceedmostpeople'sexpectations.But,onethingwearenotisaninstantaneoustroubleshootingandproblemsolvingreference.Ifyouhaveanurgentneedyou
probablyneedtogetsomeonetositetohelpwithresolvingtheproblem.

Yourquestionexhausttemperaturecontrolisansweredasfollows:Theinternaltemperatureofhotcombustiongaseswhicharepassingthroughthestationary
firststageturbinenozzleandontotherotatingfirststageturbinebucketsiscalledthe"firingtemperature"andisnottobeconfusedwith"flametemperature"
whichisusuallyhigherthanthefiringtemperature.(Flametemperatureisreducedbycoolinganddilutionairto"firingtemperature".)Ifthefiringtemperature
istoohigh,thenozzlesandbucketswillnotlastverylong.Ifit'stoolow,thepartswilllastlongerbuttheefficiencyoftheturbinewillbelessthanitcouldbe.
Thereisanoptimalfiringtemperaturethatrepresentshighefficiencyandreasonablehotgaspathpartslife.

TheproblemisthattherehasbeennoeconomicalmeansformeasuringthefiringtemperatureandthereisactuallynodirectmeansonGEheavydutygas
turbinesformeasuringfiringtemperature.BUT,withdecadesofdataandtesting,ithasbeendeterminedthatthereisadirectrelationshipbetweenfiring
temperatureandexhausttemperatureandcompressordischargepressure.Andthatfiringtemperaturecanbeverycloselymodeledorapproximatedusing
turbineexhausttemperatureasafunctionofcompressordischargepressure.So,thereisaformulathatlooksatcompressordischargepressureandexhaust
temperatureandsetsalimittotrytoapproximatethemaximumfiringtemperature,whichrepresentsBaseLoad,andwhichistheoptimalinternaltemperature
forproducingpowerefficientlywhilemaximizinghotgaspathpartslife.

OneofthereallygreatthingsaboutSpeedtronicheavydutygasturbinecontrolsystemsisthattheywereallgenerallybuilttoimplementthesamecontrol
philosophy,albeitwithnewtechnologyaseachsuccessiveversionwasdevelopedandreleased.IfyouknowabouttheMarkIV,thenyouknowthatwhenthe
unitisbeingstartedtheminimumvalueofFSRshouldbeFSRSUandFSRACC.(NewerSpeedtronicpanelsactuallyuseFSRACCtocontroltherateof
accelerationduringstartupbyusingaccelerationasafeedbackolderpanelsjustrampedFSRSUorFSRACCatacertainrateinthehopesthattheactual
accelerationwouldbethedesiredvaluewithoutactuallymonitoringtheaccelerationrate).Andyouknowthatwhentheunitisbeingshutdownafterthe
generatorbreakeropensand14HSdropsout,thatthefuelcontrolisdoneonFSRSDdowntoflameout.

DuringstartuponcetheunitreachesFullSpeedNoLoad(synchronousspeed),fuelcontrolisusuallyaccomplishedwithDroopSpeedControl.Andwhen
beingoperatedinparallelwithotherprimemoversandtheirgeneratorsonagrid,theloadfrombreakerclosuretoBaseLoad(exhausttemperaturecontrol)is
donewithDroopSpeedControl.Astheunitisloaded,thecompressordischargepressurewillincreaserelativelyproportionally.

Whenthecompressordischargepressure(CPD)reachesaparticularvalue,asdeterminedfromtheexhausttemperaturereferencealgorithm/block,fuelcontrol
willswitchfromDroopSpeedControltoCPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrol(presumingeverythingisworkingcorrectly,*AND*thattheunitisbeing
operatedproperly).Atthatpoint,theSpeedtronicwillbetryingtoputasmuchfuelinthemachineaspossibletotrytomaketheactualexhausttemperature
equaltotheexhausttemperaturereference,whichisafunctionofCPD(hencethenameCPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrol).Thisisusuallycalled'Base
Load'andrepresentthemaximumpoweroutputthatcanbeobtainedforthecurrentoperatingconditions.[NOTEthatBaseLoadisNOTratedloadexcept
undercertainoperatingconditions.]

TheswitchingbetweenFSRsshouldbesmoothandundetectable(fromaloadstandpoint)undernormaloperation.Therearefieldsondisplaysonthe
SpeedtronicoperatorinterfacestolettheviewerknowwhichFSRisincontrol.

Therecanbemorethanoneexhausttemperaturecontrol(exhausttempcontrolisalsosometimescalledexhausttemperaturelimit).Theprimarymethodis
supposedtobebasedonCPDandthebackupcanbeoneofacoupleofmethods.Theintentisfortheunittoalwaysoperateonprimaryexhausttemperature
controlwhenbeingoperatedatBaseLoad.

Exhausttemperaturecontrolcanbeexpressedasa"curve"onagraph.Thesegraphsrepresenttheexhausttemperaturecontrollimits.(Notethatinmaths,a
straightlineisalsoacurve,onewithalinearrelationship.)Inthegraphs,theflatlineatthetopisreferredtoasthe'isothermallimit'andisthemaximum
allowableexhausttemperaturereference.Theexhausttemperaturecontrol"curves"arethenegativelyslopedlines(linesslopeddownandtotherightare
consideredtohaveanegativeslope)attherightsideofthegraphs.

IliketousetheterminologyTTXMandTTRXontheleftbecausewhentheunitisoperatingonexhausttemperaturecontroltheSpeedtronicistryingtomake
theactualexhausttemperature(TTXM)equaltotheexhausttemperaturereference(TTRX).So,thetwoarebasicallythesame,andyouwillseethetwoterms
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usedinterchangeablyonlotsofGEdocumentation.

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CPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrolisusuallycalled"primary"exhausttemperaturecontrol,andit'ssignalnameisusuallyTTRXP.

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FSRbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrolisusuallycalled"secondary"or"backup"exhausttemperaturecontrol,andit'ssignalnameisusuallyTTRXS.

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Superimposingthetwoexhausttemperaturecontrollimitsoneachother,FSRbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrolissupposedtomirrorandbejustslightly
"above"(totherightof)CPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrol.

Oneveryimportantthingtonote:Thenegativelyslopedexhausttemperaturecontrollinesrepresentconstantfiringtemperature(s),whichisnotthesameas
theexhausttemperature.Operatingataconstantfiringtemperatureiscalled"BaseLoad".

Firingtemperaturehasbeendiscussedmanytimesoncontrol.comaswellasabove.Andbecausethebackupexhausttemperaturecontrolcurveissupposedto
bejustslightlytotherightsideoftheprimaryexhausttemperaturecontrolcurve,thatmeansthefiringtemperatureofthebackupcurveisacoupleofdegrees
higherthanthatoftheprimarycurve.

Inolderdays,itwaskindofmeanttobeabackuptoCPDbias,whentherewasonlyoneCPDpressuretransducer,theideabeingthatifthesingleCPD
transducerfailedtheunitcouldcontinuetorun(inanemergency)onthebackupexhausttemperaturecontrolcontrolwhichwasbasedonFSR.

Butnowadays,mostnewmachineshavemultipleCPDtransducersandiftheyhaveDLNcombustionsystems,theycan'trunwithoutaCPDsignal.

Theturbineexhausttemperaturereference(TTRX)isusuallythelowerofeitherTTRXPorTTRXS.

Asotisedsaid,FSRbiascouldbeusedtoapproximateCPDbias,buttheaccuracyofthatapproximationdependsonalotofthings,includingLVDTfeedback
calibration(whichisn'tdoneverywellatmostsitesit'sjust"GE":GoodEnough).

AlotofsitesfindthattheyareactuallyrunningonFSRbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrol,orbackupexhausttemperaturecontrol.That'susuallybecauseofa
problemwiththecalculationoftheControlConstants,orLVDTorflowdividerfeedbackcalibration,orsomecombinationofthethree.

TheonlyrealwaytotellhowthetwocurvesrelatetoeachotheristoplotthemusingtheControlConstantvalues.(NOTE:Theyshouldnotintersect,theCPD
curveshouldbetotheleftofthebackupcurve,andtheyshouldnotbeoffsetbyverymuch.)

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Theexhausttemperaturecontrolformulahasbeenwrittenmanytimesinpostsoncontrol.com.TheonlythingthatchangesarethenamesoftheControl
ConstantsdependingonthevintageoftheSpeedtronicturbinecontrolpanel.Also,thelinescanhaveachangingslope,meaningthattherecanbemorethanon
linefora"curve".(Multiplelineswithvaryingslopesareusedtoapproximateacurve.)

TTRX=TTKn_I(CPDTTKN_C)*TTKn_M

Theaboveformulaisoftheformf(x)=mx+b,wheretheslopeisnegative,orf(x)=(m*x)+b.

Rearrangingterms,f(x)=b(m*x)

where'b'=TTKn_I,'m'=TTKn_M,and'x'=(CPDTTKn_C)whereCPDiscompressordischargepressurefeedback.

MostnewGEdesignheavydutygasturbineswithConstantSettableDroopuseMW(Megawatt,orLoad)BiasasthebackuptoCPDbias.TheMWbackup
curveshouldbetotherightoftheCPDcurveandoffsetfromitslightly.Andallthesamecalculationissuesapply,buttheimproperfuelflowfeedback
calibrationorbadLVDTfeedbackdon'tapplytotheMWbackupcurve.

DroopSpeedControlandit'sinputsandfeedbackswasjustrecentlycoveredoncontrol.com.

Finally,SRVcontrolisnotafunctionofCPD,andthecitationyouprovidedhasnothingtodowithSRVcontrol

Bypicheton10March,201012:40am

Hi,CSA

AsyoumentionthatmeanicanincreasesordecreasesgasturbineMWoutputbyadjustTTKn_Mright?And,CouldyouexplainabouttheTTK0,TTK1,
TTK2,TTK3,etccurvewhichoneusedforCPDcontrolandwhichoneusedforFSRcontrol.

Bestregards,
pichet
pichet.panya[at]thainatpwr.com

ByCSA on10March,201011:15am
0outof1membersthoughtthispostwashelpful...

ChangestotheexhausttemperaturecontrolControlConstantswillaffecttheoutputatBaseLoad,butchangingthemtoincreaseoutputwillcausethe
internaltemperatures(specificallythefiringtemperature,thetemperatureofthecombustiongasesleavingthefirststageturbinenozzles)toincrease,andthat
willdecreasepartslife.

Itshouldbenotedthatanymanufacturerisgoingtomaximizethefiringtemperatureforthepartsinstalledinthemachineinordertomaximizetheamountof
moneychargedforthemachine.So,theexhausttemperaturecontrolconstantsinstalledinthemachinearealreadysetfortheoptimumpartslife,whichmeans
theupperlimitofsafeandreliablepartslifefortheplannedmaintenanceoutagecycle.

It'slikeadetergentmanufacturertheyrecommendputting0.2Lofdetergentinthewashingmachine.That'sthemaximumamountofdetergenttheycan
recommend,becausetheywanttosellasmuchdetergentaspossible.Itdoesn'tmeanyoushouldalwaysusethatmuch,orthatyoushouldusemoreformore
effectivecleaning.Theamounttheyarerecommendingisalreadythemaximumthatcanbereasonablybeusedwithoutcausingharmtothematerialsandthe
washingmachine.Samewithpesticidesandfertilizersusingmorethantherecommendedamountisusuallyharmfulbecausetherecommendedamountis
usuallythesafestmaximumamountinordertomaximizesales.

So,changingexhausttemperaturecontrolconstantsmaygetyoumorepower,butit'sgoingtocostyouintermsofpartslife,andmaybeevenresultina
catastrophicfailureofcombustionliners,transitionpieces,turbinenozzlesorturbinebucketswhiletheunitisrunning.Whichwouldbereallycostlyinterms
ofpartsandlostproduction.

NooneshouldeverbechangingexhausttemperatureControlConstants.Justbecausetheycanbechanged(whichisanoversightonmyopinion,toallow
fieldchangeswithoutpasswordprivilege)doesn'tmeantheyshouldbechanged.AndchangingoneControlConstantofanarraywithoutunderstandingthe
knockoneffectsthatchangecanhaveonturbineoperationcancausemoreoperationalproblems.

AsforwhichcontrolconstantsareforCPDcontrolandwhichareforsecondarybias,youneedtoconsultthesequencing/applicationcodeforyourunit.Some
unitshaveverysimpleexhausttempcurves,somehavemultisegmentedcurves.TheexhausttemparraycanalsobesetupforPeakLoadandforasecond
fuel,aswell.So,thereisnohardandfaststandardastowhichControlConstantsarealwaysusedforwhatpurposetheCSPorapplicationcodefortheunitat
yoursitedefineshowtheControlConstantsareassignedandwhichonesare"active"when.

Thepresentationofanyofthismaterialisnotintendedtobeusedfor"tweaking"ofturbineoperationoutsideoftheparametersspecifiedintheControl
Specifications.It'sonlyintendedasanexplanationofhowcontrolschemesareaccomplished.Useofthismaterialtotweakturbineoperationoutsidethe
parametersdefinedbytheControlSpecificationisentirelydoneatthesoleriskofthepersonimplementingthechange(s).Anydamageorharmthatmay
occurastheresultofmakingchangestoparametersspecifiedintheControlSpecificationisentirelytheresponsibilityofthepersonimplementingthe
change(s).

Inotherwords:Don'ttrythisathome.

Therethelegalaspecthasbeencovered.

Byaliyaon16March,20112:00pm

Hiall,

Thanksforsowellexplanations.

Sorryforasking,butstilliamconfusedfortheCPDbiasedandFSRbiasedcurve.

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Pleasecorrectifiamwrong.

Whatiunderstandis
AsperCPDcurvenegativeslope

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asperfigure,AsCPDincreases,Firingtemperatureshouldcomedown.
Tomaintaintheconstanttemperature,fuelflowincreases,andhenceexhausttemperatureshouldincrease.

Butwhatisawtoday,contradictingtothisgraph,whenCPDwasgoinghigh,CPDbiasedexhausttemperaturereferencewasgoingup.andisawbyplotting
graphbymyself.

Lotmanyconfusionsare,likeifCPDincreasesthenwhathappens??
Firingtemperatureincreases??
Exhausttemperatureincreases??
Exhausttemperaturereferenceincreases??
FSRincreases??
orjustfiringtemperaturesetpointincreases??

Kindlytoleratemyquestionsandgiveaflowinganswer,soicanrelatealltheseparameterswithonestring.

Please.

ByCSA on16March,201110:25pm
0outof1membersthoughtthispostwashelpful...

Questionsaregooddoubtsarebad.

Theslopedportionofthegraphrepresentsconstantfiringtemperature,whichisnotmeasured.OnlyexhausttemperatureandCPDaremeasured.

Idon'tknowwhenyouweremeasuringexhausttemperature(whetherornottheunitwasatBaseLoadorPartLoad),butsomethingiswrong.Theformulain
thepostyoutookthegraphfromclearlysaysthatasCPDincreasesthecorrespondingexhausttemperaturewilldecreaseforthesame(constant)firing
temperature(theslopedportionofthegraph).

TheinverserelationshipisONLYtruewhentheunitisoperatingwithCPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrolactive.Thecontrolfieldontheoperator
interfacemaindisplaymustread"TemperatureControl",andtheBaseLoadindicationmustbe"illuminated".Theunitcan'tbeonPreSelectedLoadControl
oranyothercontrolmeansfortheinverserelationshiptobetrue.

WhenoperatingonCPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrol,asCPDincreasesthefuelflowwillalsoincreaseslightlywhichmeansFSRwillincrease
slightly.AsCPDdecreases,fuelflowwilldecreaseslightlywhichmeansFSRwilldecreaseslightly.And,forthesame(constant)firingtemperaturethe
exhausttemperaturewilldecreaseasCPDincreasesandfuelflowandFSRincrease.AndexhausttemperaturewillincreaseasCPDdecreasesandfuelflow
andFSRdecrease.BecauseoftheinverserelationshipdefinedbythenegativeslopeoftheCPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrolline(curve).

Itiscounterintuitive,butitisthewaytheturbineoperateswhen,andonlywhen,itisoperatingonCPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrol(Base
Load).

CPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrolisusuallysignalnameTTRXP.Andsecondary,orbackup,biasedexhausttemperaturecontrolisusuallysignalname
TTRXS.Exhausttemperaturecontrol,TTRX,isthelesserofTTRXPandTTRXS.AndwhentheunitisoperatingonCPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrol
thentheSpeedtronicwillbetryingtoputasmuchfuelintheunitasitcanfortherunningCPDtomaketheactualexhausttemperature,TTXM,equaltothe
exhausttemperaturereference,TTRX.

AndifyouplotCPDandFSRandTTRXPandTTXMandTTRXandfuelflowratewhenthetheunitisoperatingonCPDbiasedexhausttemperature
controlyouwillplotanegativelyslopedlineforTTRXandTTXMasCPDincreases.

Whentheunitis**NOT**operatingonCPDbiasedexhausttemperaturecontrol,thenasCPDincreasesexhausttemperaturewillincrease,andasCPD
decreasesexhausttemperaturewilldecrease.

ByFebri on14January,201012:35am

IthinkSRVcontrolisbasedonPressurecontroltomaintainenaoughpressureofgasforcombustion.CPDwillimpacttoFSRcontrol(FSRT).ifweareusing
fuelgas,thenFSRselectedwillapplyonGCVnotSRV.YoucanstudymoreonlogicdiagramonToolboxtofindit.

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Byotised on14January,20105:13pm

Justfortherecord,theSRV(speedratiovalve)controlstheinterstagepressurebetweentheSRVandtheGCVasafunctionofHPturbinespeed.(The
pressuresetpointisafunctionofHPturbinespeed.)

Bysennarayaon5October,20141:50am
0outof1membersthoughtthispostwashelpful...

GEheavydutygasturbinesfiringtemperaturecanbedeterminedbythefollowingformula.
TTRF=(CPD)^0.28TTXM

ByRonaldAndersonSeniorTurbineControlson16February,20127:43pm
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HelloMohammed,

IhopeIcanhelpyoualittlebit.Ihaveabout27yearsexperienceasaSeniorTurbineControlsEngineerspecializingonGEturbines.

TemperatureControlisaceilingthatpreventsyoufromoverfiringtheturbine,whichisusedtolimitthemainfuelcontrolparametercalledFuelStrokeReference
(FSR),Ithasmultipleoverlappingcontrolcurvesandisaconstantlycalculatedvaluedeterminedbyexternalfieldparameters,sequencing,factoryfixedandfield
modifiablecontrolconstants.It'scomponents,butnotall,areCompressorDischargePressure(CPD)andexhausttemperaturemedian(TTXM)whichisexhaust
temperatureaveragedandweighted.CPDisusedasthemainofmanybiasestothetemperaturecontrolisothermalconstant.Thisisaverycritical(andcomplexat
times)fuellimitingcalculationthatpreventsdamageorexcessivepartsdegradationtotheunit.

TNHistheTurbineSpeedonsingleshaftmachinesandthespeedhighpressureturbinevs.thelowpressureturbine(TNL)ontwoshaftmachines.

TNRistheTurbineSpeedReferenceanothercalculatedvalueforthespeedorloadsetpointthatthecontrollerwantstheturbinetooperateat.

IhavetaughtschoolsforGEandforothersonGESpeedtronicControllersofvariousmodelsandamatanexpertlevelonMKI(analogfromthe1970'sthroughthe
MKVseries).

Nomatterhowoldornewtheplatform,theyarealltryingtodothesamething.

Iworkforadvancedturbinecontrolsnow,butifIwereyouandjuststartingout,youwouldneedthefollowingbooks,GEGasTurbineDictionaryofTerms,GE
MnemonicNomeclatureIndexwhichdefinesthingslikeFSROUT,TNH,TNRetc..whichareusedincode,andawriteuponGEControlPhilosophycontainedin
Vol.1ofmostGECustomerManuals,eitherhardcopyorpdf.I'monlinkedinifyouwanttocontactme.

Ihopethatthishasbeenhelpfultoyou.

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