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What is the conversion to change an efficiency spec that is in dB/2.83w to one that is in dB/1w so
diyAudio Member that one can compare apples to apples.
Since the power would be 2.83 times less it would seem that the efficiency rating would be reduced
by a little over 3 dB. But what is the actual correction?
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But note that a 8 ohm speaker 3dB less efficient than a 16 ohm
speaker will have nearly the same maximum output with the
above amplifier.
For 4 ohm tolerant amplifiers the the same reasoning can be
used, a 4 ohm speaker 6dB less efficient than a 16 ohm
speaker will have nearly the same maximum output with the
above amplifier.
sreten.
I wrote:
moving_electron
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diyAudio Member
What is the conversion to change an efficiency spec that is in dB/2.83w to one that is in
dB/1w
I was not realizing that the 2.83 was a voltage spec rather than a watt spec. Thanks for the
clarifications and considerations.
Ron E dB~=10*log10(Re/8)
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If you have a 4ohm speaker with a 3 ohm voice coil, rated at 93dB/2.83V, its 1W sensitivity would be
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Join Date: Jun 2002 The least ambiguous spec is the 2.83V spec. Manufacturers play around with the ambiguity of the 1W
Location: USA, MN spec so I wouldn't trust it.
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diyAudio Moderator Emeritus You gave us the following equation for comparing SPL at 2.83 volts to SPL at 1 watt:
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If you are going to use the DC resistance of the 4 ohm speaker, then you should use the DC
resistance of the 8 ohm speaker.
As you know, a speaker rated at 8 ohms is very likely to have a DC resistance, (Re) of between 5.5
and 6.5 ohms. Call it 6 ohms as an estimate.
So the 4 ohm speaker rated at 93 dB @ 2.83volts will be 89.9999dB at 1 watt. Or 90 dB for short.
Am I correct on this?
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sreten Quote:
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For impedance Z, you change the dB/2.83V
Join Date: Nov 2003 by 10 x log (Z/8) to derive the dB/W figure.
Location: Brighton UK
base 10 was assumed for the log and nominal impedance assumed.
sreten.
10*log10(2.666)= 4.26dB
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sreten is wrong.
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kelticwizard Quote:
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Originally posted by Ron E
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difficult...............
Okay, but what bothers me is that a speaker with a 3 ohm voice coil will not be playing at 3 ohms in
practice. The lowest impedance it will be playing at will be 4 ohms.
So why are we using Re in that formula instead of nominal impedance? It is never going to play at 3
ohms.
It seems to me that by the same token, if we have a speaker with a 6 ohm voice coil that is rated 90
dB @ 2.83 volts/1M, then at 1 watt we have:
dB~=10*log10(Re/8)
dB= 10 log (6/8) = -1.25
Is that true? That just about every speaker rated 8 ohms is really less efficient than what the 2.83V
specs would indicate?
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sreten Quote:
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Originally posted by Ron E
Join Date: Nov 2003 2.828 Volts is 1Watt into 8 ohms
Location: Brighton UK
2.828 volts into 3 ohms is 2.828^2/3 = 2.666Watts into 3 ohms
10*log10(2.666)= 4.26dB
It does not matter if the 4ohm voice coil is actually 2 ohms or 3 ohms or 4 ohms.
The conversion from volts to watts with an assumed resistive load is not
difficult...............
sreten wrote:
sreten is wrong.
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