Professional Documents
Culture Documents
by Rob Burbea
Recorded at Gaia House, 2008-08-08 – 2008-08-12
http://dharmaseed.org/retreats/1183/
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Table of Contents
1: 2008-08-08 Talk One: Introduction to the Art of Concentration (Samatha Meditation)..............1
2: 2008-08-09 First Morning Instructions and Guided Meditation................................................10
3: 2008-08-09 Talk Two: Understanding the Heart........................................................................13
4: 2008-08-10 Second Morning Instructions and Guided Meditation............................................27
5: 2008-08-10 Talk Three: Wise Effort and Wise Attachment........................................................32
6: 2008-08-11 Third Morning Instructions.....................................................................................44
7: 2008-08-11 Talk Four: Jhanas One to Four................................................................................48
8: 2008-08-12 Fourth Morning Instructions...................................................................................59
9: 2008-08-12 Talk Five: Samatha, Nibbana, and the Emptiness of Perception - The Relationship
Between Concentration and Insight................................................................................................62
Really finding a – settling in to a posture that’s comfortable. Again, the important thing about the
posture is this kind of balance, inclusiveness of uprightness, so the posture is reflecting a wakefulness
and alertness. That quality is balanced with a sense of openness in the body, of softness, if possible,
particularly in the chest area. The body reflecting that balance, which is also the ideal balance in the
mind. So the body is upright, open, soft, relaxed.
Taking a moment to feel in to how the face feels right now. Just noticing any obvious areas of tension,
perhaps around the eyes, the mouth, the jaw. Just feeling in, seeing if it’s possible to relax them right
now. Just letting go, as much as you can – not a problem if it doesn’t all go. Feeling in to the throat and
the neck, and again just relaxing, relaxing. The shoulders, allowing them to move towards the floor, to
drop down. The upper back, just feeling in, sensing in, relaxing. The chest, the chest area. The
abdomen, the belly, and in particular the lower belly, allowing it to hang down towards the floor.
Then opening the awareness to the sense of the body, right here, right now. So just checking in with the
sensations of contact, of sitting, the buttocks, the feet, the legs making contact with the cushion, the
chair, the floor. Just receiving those sensations in awareness. Connecting with those simple sensations.
Then opening the awareness, filling the body with awareness, permeating the body with awareness.
Like air fills a balloon. Just feeling in to the sense of the body, the texture of the body, the texture of
that area that we call the body. Just a global sense of it. Tuning in. A sensitivity to the whole body.
Within that, just lightly becoming aware of the breathing. Keeping the awareness large. When you’re
ready, beginning to take some long, slow in breaths, long, slow out breaths. Comfortably long. So
you’re not forcing the breath; you’re allowing it to really open and expand. If you have a blocked nose
or a cold, fine to breathe through the mouth. Not necessarily moving a lot of air, but just lengthening,
slowing down the breathing, filling the body with the energy of the breath.
Then tuning in, seeing if you can notice, if you can feel in to the whole body expanding, the whole
body expanding with the in breath. Reversing that expansion with the out breath. Just feeling in to that,
throughout the body. How does that feel? You may also be aware, perhaps, of a sense of the whole
body being energized, feeling energized as the breath comes in. The sense of the body being energized.
And as the breath goes out, there is a natural letting go, a natural relaxation that happens. So expanding,
energizing with the in breath; contracting, relaxing, letting go with the out breath. Just tuning in, in the
whole body, to whatever feels the most helpful of all of that to connect with right now. Whatever is
most helpful for you. Keeping the breath long, keeping the awareness large.
Now, keeping the breath long and slow, and keeping that whole body awareness, the awareness
stretched to fill the whole body, seeing if you can notice – and maybe you can notice, maybe not, and
it’s fine either way – how does it feel up the front of the body when the breath comes in? So perhaps
you notice something there, perhaps not, and it’s really fine either way. Keeping a delicate touch of
awareness, very light awareness in the whole body, how does it feel up the torso as the breath comes in
and goes out?
What do you notice in the throat area and the face as the breath comes in and goes out? So whole body
awareness, a very light, sensitive awareness to the whole body. Perhaps you notice something in certain
areas, and perhaps not, and it’s really fine. Tuning in to what’s helpful, just noticing.
Keeping the breath long, keeping the awareness large, how does it feel up the spine as the breath comes
in and out? Up the back. Perhaps you notice something, perhaps not. Just lightly, delicately tuning in, in
the whole body.
How does it feel in the legs as the breath comes in and out? So really including the legs in this whole
body awareness, the whole body.
Now, perhaps you notice some movement of energy in different areas of the body, perhaps not. It really
doesn’t matter. But tuning in to whatever is helpful. The whole body expanding and contracting, the
whole body being energized, or certain movements, the whole body relaxing with the out breath.
Whatever in there feels helpful, feels good, feels connecting, just tuning in to that.
Still keeping this wide awareness, this large awareness, allowing yourself to play and experiment with
the breath. So seeing if you can get a sense, allow yourself to play – what kind of breath feels best right
now? Feels most comfortable? How does the body want to breathe? Keeping a large awareness, does
the breath want to stay long? Or to be shorter, or to be even much shorter? Does it want to be smooth or
rough? What feels best right now? So really allowing yourself to play with it, to make it the most
comfortable it can be. Not just falling back on the default, unconscious way of breathing, but really
engaging, playing with the breath like a child would play with plasticine. Really feeling into what feels
best. A strong breath or a subtle breath? This will change. Keeping responsive, keep playing in that
large awareness. Just encouraging the breath and the body to feel just as good as they can, right now,
how ever that is.
Just seeing if you can get a sense of what the body needs in this moment, and giving it that with the
breath, or through the breath. You can use the breath to open the body, breathing in a way that opens up
the body. Or you can breathe in a way that energizes the whole body. If it feels needed, you can breathe
in a way that soothes the body, and feel that soothing. You can bathe the body with the breath. You can
calm the body with the breath. Feel the breath as calming, and find a breath that’s calming. See what
does the body need right now, and see if you can respond through the breath and feel that. Whole body
awareness.
So you’re nourishing the body with the breath energy, nourishing the energy of the body with the
energy of the breath, in whatever way feels best. Playing with that. The awareness fills the body, and
seeing if that awareness can be really close, really alive and bright. So not so much an awareness
looking at the body, but awareness in the body, permeating the body, really putting the awareness inside
the body to fill the body as much as possible. Really being alive to the texture of the body area, the
feeling of the body area.
Breathing in a way that allows the body to feel comfortable, as comfortable as possible. It may be that
somewhere in the body, some area, could be anywhere, feels a little bit comfortable right now. There’s
a comfortable spot, a place of ease or warmth or openness or pleasant feeling. Some place that one is
actually enjoying this breathing, this body. Really including that in the awareness. If you want, actually
centering the awareness in that place and knowing that place, feeling that comfort, knowing the whole
body from that place. Even if it’s not remarkable at all, just – it doesn’t have to be anything particularly
special; just some place of relative comfort and ease, it feels okay, it feels nice. Any place in the body.
Just connecting with it, opening to it, feeling whatever degree of comfort there is. Tuning in to that.
Nourishing that sense with the way you breathe and your playing with the breath.
Is it possible that whatever place of comfort, spot of comfort, ease, areas of even pleasure – is it
possible that that can spread a little bit? Through the way you’re playing with the breath, the way
you’re breathing. It’s okay if not. You can just stay with that one place, and just tune in to the comfort
there.
Okay, so that’s quite a lot of stuff already. I want to do a little recap. We’re playing with the breath, but
we’re not putting a lot of forcing into that. You’re not yanking the breath either to be subtle or to be
short or to be long. We’re not putting a lot of physical pressure on the breath. Sometimes it’s actually
just a sense of questioning, “What would it feel like right now, what would happen, if the next breath
were a bit longer or a bit shorter or a bit stronger or a bit more refined?” It’s almost like just dropping
the question in, and that question allows the breath to move. It allows that possibility to open up and
the breath to move in that way. As I said, you can sense in – what’s needed right now in the body, in the
energetic system? You can use the breath to open the body, really get a sense of the body opening, or
energizing, especially if there’s sluggishness and tiredness around, you can actually use the breath to
energize the whole system. Oftentimes, long, slow, deep breathing is actually very energizing. You can
use the breath to soothe, if you feel agitated. Breathe in a way that the breath is just really soothing the
whole system. Find out what this is. We all need to find out what this is for ourselves. We can breathe
in a way that we’re just bathing the whole system, calming the whole system, and just really feeling
that.
This word “play” that I mentioned last night is absolutely key. Play and patience. We’re really playing
with the breath. And something else I also mentioned last night – to let go of preconceived notions just
as much as you can of what the breath should feel like. Maybe one is breathing and there’s currents of
energy moving down the legs. Maybe. I’m totally happy with that. Maybe it moves up the legs. I’m
happy with that, too. Maybe it feels like it’s coming in somehow and moving down or up the whole
body. Who knows? See if you can just let go of preconceptions, and within that, where we should feel
it. The whole body breathes. It’s not just the nose and the mouth and the lungs. The whole body is
actually breathing. One might feel that anywhere or everywhere. So really want to listen, to really tune
in to the breath in the body and this experience. Really in an open way, as open as possible.
Through this playing with the breath, we allow the breath and the breathing to become more
comfortable. We’re allowing, we’re interested in nurturing this sense of comfort. So this question,
“What actually feels best right now?” It’s a very alive process. For me, implicit in the word “play” is an
aliveness. One is very alive to what does feel best right now, how does that feel. There’s a checking in,
a real feeling in. Now, we can manipulate too much. You can be over-involved sometimes. Or you can
be under-involved sometimes. Or you can be just right. But there’s no rule with this; it’s not fixed. One
really, really important thing is don’t fear mistakes with this. Don’t think, “Am I doing it too much, am
I not doing it enough?” Play, play, play, play. Don’t worry about this. You’re going to make mistakes;
we’re all making mistakes. That’s not a problem, that’s how we learn. Don’t fear mistakes.
It could be that in the course of playing with the breath and whole body awareness that some area of the
body, could be the belly, could be around the face, could be the chest, could be anywhere, feels a little
bit comfortable. Maybe a lot comfortable. Maybe just a little bit, just okay, easeful, really nothing to
write home about necessarily. Could be pleasure, could be ease, could be warmth, enjoyment in some
way. Using the breath to support and nourish, to kind of nurture that sense of comfort, how ever it is.
Allowing the mind to really connect with that sense of comfort, that sense of ease, as much as you can.
It’s the consistency of attention with the area of comfort that allows it to grow. We’re not putting
pressure on it. That’s also really important. We think, “Well, this comfort is not that comfortable. It’s
okay.” Don’t put pressure on it. Just be with what is there, and keep it relaxed. Keep that spot of
comfort relaxed. Slowly, slowly, one is nurturing it, and a sense of fullness can come from that, and
moving towards allowing that to spread and begin to fill the body. So it’s really important to enjoy and
be contented with – this is really, really important – enjoy and be contented with whatever you have
that feels good or okay or a little bit pleasant. We can always, the mind can always go, “Well, it’s not
good enough. It’s not strong enough.” Really see if you can develop a sense of contentment with it.
Inclining the awareness towards what does feel okay, what does feel pleasant. If we don’t do that, the
mind gets quite tense and unhappy. So this is very skillful to incline towards the pleasant and the
comfortable.
Now, we are, in the course of the days, moving towards nurturing, nourishing, in a very gentle way, that
sense of comfort. And moving towards having that sense of comfort spread and permeate the whole
body. This is a very gradual process. So usually we have to just stay with that one spot where it feels
okay, and just enjoy that, allow ourselves to enjoy it before trying to spread it. Usually. There are
actually no rules with this, but usually we need to stay with what’s there that feels okay, and then we
can move to spread it. When it feels more solid – and this is, I’m talking ahead a little bit for many of
us – but when it begins to feel more solid, more steady, then perhaps we can allow it to spread and fill
the body.
Whole body awareness. The awareness will keep shrinking, you just keep establishing it like air fills a
balloon, to fill the whole body. And within that, to be playing with the breath, to be experimenting with
the breath. Sometimes it can be quite a sort of involved experimentation, quite a lot of playing,
sometimes it can be very soft and sometimes it's best to actually not interfere with the breath at all. But
be careful of just letting things be and going into the default mode. That's not what we're necessarily
interested in. If you're not playing with the breath, let it be because that's really what feels good right
now. If it doesn't feel pretty good then play with the breath, see if you can make the body feel more
comfortable.
In that playing with the breath, not to neglect the long breath. Typically, as the retreat goes on, you may
need to feel like the body wants the long breath less. But don't neglect it. The default way of breathing
may be too shallow and not in a good way. So could be that the body wants a short breath, could be
long, but don't neglect the long breath, just check it out from time to time.
Long breath can be very energizing, can be very energizing. When we talk about Samadhi, it doesn't
just mean calm. It actually means a kind of calm balanced with energy, with energization. So as the
calm deepens, correspondingly our energy deepens, we're energized more. Calm on its own without
energy is bad, is dullness, is sleepiness. (2:22) Energy on its own without calm is restlessness, agitation,
something about a deepen together.
(2:32) Last night I threw out two more words: sensitivity and steadiness.
Sensitivity, it's a large word, it means quite a lot, but I feel it's a really important word. Begin to start
getting slowly a feel, recognizing, when the breath is maybe too long and it wants to be shorter. Or
when it's too short and it wants to be longer, or when it's too strong and it would be better for it to be
much more refined, much more gentle, much more subtle. Or it's too subtle and it needs to be a bit
more strong. Starting to get a feel for that, when the breath is too kind of active or when it's too kind of
sluggish. Just feeling into this sense and beginning to get a sensitivity for it. And to me that word
sensitivity implies a kind of real aliveness of the attention, so this area of what we're calling the body,
this area (3:34) of feeling, of vibration, we're really in an alive way feeling into that texture, a very light
delicate alive way.
So a lot of this stuff, it's not so much that you've got like a car manual, that "when this breaks down
look to see page 76" and then "ah, this is what I'll do". Sometimes it's like that, but there's much more
art involved, and that's partly where the sensitivity comes in, it's like just feeling, trying, experimenting,
getting a feel for it.
(4:12) This word, steadiness, as well. So in a way this has two aspects to it: a sensitivity, steadiness.
One is a more background steadiness, which is like, all this is going to have ups and downs. There's no
way that anyone in this room right now hasn't had plenty of ups and downs just in the day and a half
we've had so far of retreat. It's gonna be up and down. One part of the mind is very engaged with
responding to, playing with, seeing what works, and another part is just kind of neutral, non-attached,
spacious, observer of what's going on, kind of learning. It's not getting too ruffled by the ups and
downs. So that kind of steadiness.
The second meaning of the word steadiness, which is a steadiness of attention. So is it really possible to
be steady, to keep the attention steady with this bodily sense, steady with each breath coming in and out
and how that feels. And when there begins to be a comfortable feeling, however little that is, can we
really be steady and consistent with the attention towards that and the opening to it.
(5:30) Last night I talked very briefly about the experience sitting or walking or standing, whatever, of
some area or areas of the body that feel discomfort, pain, or even just a sense of constriction, of
tightness, of blocked energy, and this is going to be very common. Specially in its more subtle forms,
it's just something, the energy just doesn't "flow" there so well. So I want to go over 8 options.
1. Make sure the rest of the body is relaxed. We tend to tense up the rest of the body in relation to an
area of discomfort. Just open up the awareness and relax the rest of the body. Really important.
2. Make sure that the awareness is large. It will shrink, it shrinks when we don't like something
basically. We're like a porcupine or a turtle. They shrink. The awareness will do that. And just re-
establish it as large. There's something about having that whole-body awareness and the awareness is
filling the whole body like a big sheet that's spread over the body or a sail that's kind of following the
wind and it's spread over the body. And almost in that (7:05) bubble of awareness it gives everything
more context.
This is a real resource for our areas of pain. So we have a lot of chairs in this room, so we have the
possibility of alternating posture, but I would also encourage at this point sometimes actually working
with the pain, see what you can do with the breath and the awareness in relationship to pain sometimes.
Can you be up for that? And sometimes alternating. So both are included.
3. Staying with the area of comfort. No matter how weak or unremarkable this area of comfort is. The
mind gets pulled like a magnet into the discomfort, into the block, into the constrictions, the pain. And
we're kind of re-training the mind a little bit. Re-training the mind, just stay with the area of comfort,
not get so called. And in time, when we stay a little bit with that comfort, we can open up the sense of
this area of comfort, wherever it is, being somehow connected to an area of discomfort. And perhaps
just opening up that inner sense of comfort there's a connection actually does begin to flow and some of
the comfortable feelings can begin to spread towards, almost like they wash over the area of
constriction.
4. To play with the breath again. Is it possible that area of constriction, say it's in the upper back, can
you breathe, almost feel the energy of the breath soothing over the back in that way, soothing, soothing.
Or filling, sometimes when we fill the body with awareness, can you fill it with breath energy? That too
can be very helpful. A lot of things I'm throwing out, remember they'll be there in the recordings, I'm
totally fine with people taking notes, it's not a problem. Can we experiment with moving the breath
through a certain area? So, we may have a pain in the knee or the hip, can the breath move for instance
coming here and move right down the body through the area of discomfort and perhaps right out the
legs or out the fingertips? The breath energy is actually moving, don't be afraid to use your imagination,
it's not so much a visual imagination as a sort of feeling imagination, play with it.
Pain or constrictive or blocked energy (9:55) is exactly that, pain in energetic terms is blocked energy.
So you just imagine the energy moving through, feel it moving through. And sometimes, even in the
meditation, you can ask "what parts of my body" (even if you don't feel that bad), "what parts of the
body right now need, could do with some breath energy?". Maybe the legs are not getting it. Maybe the
arms are being left out, maybe the head is being left out. What parts need the breath energy? In a
minute, going to do a guided meditation with breathing into different parts of the body, so you can
actually breathe into an area of constriction, in and out of that place, the throat is constricted or the
heart center is constricted, what would it be to breathe in and out there, the breath energy is coming in
and out there.
Oftentimes, the place that feels most blocked, most constricting, ends up being the most pleasant place,
when we can work with that inner openness. It's almost like it's got a lot of energy there, that just needs
opening a little bit, and then it starts to feel really good, sometimes, often.
(11:15) Last night I also mentioned fear, often around discomfort in the body, pain in the body, there's
fear, it's a very understandable human reaction. Can we be aware of that fear and just notice, is the fear
building the pain? Building the sense of discomfort, because it almost certainly will. Is it possible to
just see that process going on, somehow in seeing it, it doesn't build it so much. And last, as I said, is
move, move the body and don't go beyond what is your limit with this, absolutely, play with your
edges. Really I encourage you to play with the edges around discomfort and constriction sometimes but
know what the limits are and then move. If you need to move, move the body slowly (12:07), quietly,
considerately. So quite a lot to play with in that area of pain and more often as the meditation goes on
just a sense of constricted or blocked energy.
Last night I also talked about the hindrances and I mentioned two specific things: the sloth and torpor,
drowsiness, and restlessness. Really on this retreat seeing "can I breathe in a way that energizes?". I can
use the breath to really energize, really seeing if I can experiment and get a sense with that. Or
sometimes you can breathe to calm, so whatever is needed. Does it need a calming breath or an
energizing breath? Really using that, if it's restless breath in a calming way, see if you can find a way
into that. And vice-versa if you need an energizing breath. But by all means if there's tiredness or all the
other things I suggested, reaffirm the uprightness of posture. Breathing long, the in-breath is inherently
more energizing, we're taking in energy with the in-breath. I know this is a lot of information, take what
you can. Taking in energy with the in-breath, if it's restlessness then the out-breath is inherently
relaxing and you tune more into the in-breath or the out-breath as needed. So always responding,
feeling free to open the eyes, taking in space. To stand up if necessary, to walk briskly. (13:51)
Doubt is a very common one. Doubting oneself, "I can't do this, maybe everyone else here can do this
but I can't do this". Doubting this approach, "is this really Buddhist?", "is this really Kosher?",
whatever. Very normal, it's just a hindrance. Just see it as that, it's just doubt, it's just doubt, and say to it
"I'll come back to you later". And make a pact with it, make an agreement, does it feel ignored, this
part? And you say "I'll come back to you later", and then that later might be the end of the retreat and
just giving oneself to this retreat. Or it might be the end of this sitting. Just see it as doubt, come back
to it later. And please ask questions in the groups. Ask questions, if something is "Hm, not sure", ask
questions.
(14:55) And sometimes we find ourselves sitting here and fantasizing, in a sexual fantasy, or
fantasizing about lunch, or whatever it is. Can we see that there's suffering involved in that? There's a
kind of hungry leaning forward in the mind that's actually suffering. Can we use whatever comfortable
pleasant feeling there might be there as actually a resource? Slowly, slowly, we're actually with that in a
way that we need to go out less. So really tuning into that comfort. Very important.
(15:31) And then lastly, also with greed but with aversion too, actually sometimes it's worth stopping
the breath meditation, actually deliberately reflecting, "is this taking me where I want to go?", "is this
useful, or is this suffering?". We get irritated at something, or angry at something going on, or wanting
something, and just using the reflective mind, "is this really helping?". It seems so convincing
sometimes, these hindrances, once they've got their hooks into something, actually using the reflective
mind at times to see if it can dis-engage that. The Buddhist golden question on his path was "what's
helpful and what's not?", it's that simple, "what leads to suffering and what doesn't?", "What leads to
freedom?". (16:28). Using the reflective mind.
Okay, that was a lot of information, I'm aware. So let's do a meditation now. (16:56) Just take what you
can of the information, the sort of tips and whatever you call it, that's coming out, take what you can,
take what feels useful, play with some of the pieces and let the rest go and if you're interested it'll be
there on the recordings.
(17:22) So just settling once again into your posture, finding that ease, that poise, that balance, the
expression of alertness, sensitivity, in and through the posture.
Recognizing again, reflecting again that this practice is a gesture of goodwill, it's a gesture of kindness
and a care to yourself. Really being clear (18:12) about that. There's no other reason that we're doing it.
Connecting with that kindfulness and wishing yourself well.
Extending that well-wishing to everyone here, just opening up wishing everyone here in this room well.
Everyone here at Gaia House well. And even further to all beings.
Establishing this whole-body sensitivity, sensitive to the whole body. That whole area of energy, of
vibration, feeling, texture. Alive, sensitive, open to the whole body. (19:36) Then placing the attention
within that, placing the attention on an area, a small area, just below the navel, the belly-button, and a
little bit to the left. Just a few centimeters below and to the left of the bellybutton, it's not an exact area,
just a general area there. And feeling or imagining feeling the breath coming in and out at that spot. So
the body is breathing in breath energy there and letting it out there. Breathing it out there. (20:48) But
open to the whole body, but really focusing in on that spot, how it feels, how does it feel, with the
breath coming in and going out there? Just being open, delicate, letting go of preconceptions. Delicate
with the sensitivity.
How does it feel in the rest of the body with the breath going in and out of there? What kind of breath
does the body want when the breath is going in and out of there? Long, short, coarse, subtle, rough,
smooth? Not putting a lot of physical pressure on the breath, just opening up by dropping that question.
(22:06) Perhaps the breath goes in there and radiates up the left side of the body, down the left leg,
perhaps, perhaps a different kind of movement. Perhaps it just wells up in that point. Just open, delicate
sensitivity.
And then moving that point where the breath comes in and out to the same point on the other side, on
the right-hand side. Just a few centimeters down and to the right of the bellybutton. How does that feel
in the whole body? What kind of breath feels best there, for the whole body? Not pressurizing either
the body or the mind, just being open, delicate. And how about the breath coming in and out at the Hara
point in the center, a few centimeters below the navel. How does that feel? The whole body. (25:15)
(26:47) If you want, if you feel ready, shifting that area of the spot where the breath goes in and out of
the body to the solar plexus, the top of the abdomen, around the sternum. How does that feel in the
whole body, in the rest of the body? And what kind of breath feels best there? (27:30) (28:22) How
about a little bit higher, in the heart center, the center of the chest? The breath energy moving in and out
from that point. Just feeling how that moves, vibrates, opens in the rest of the body. (29:21) Make sure
one is including your legs, in the whole body experience.
(30:08) If you want, checking out how it might feel with the breath energy coming in and out at the
base of the throat. If a place feels particularly good you don't need to check all of these out right now.
You might want to stay a little bit with where it feels good.
(32:08) Opening the body to the breath. How might it be if the breath energy comes in to a point in the
area at the center of the head? What kind of breath feels best there, for the whole body? Just allowing
the breath to be comfortable in these places (33:19), without forcing. How does it feel in the whole
body if the breath energy were to come in and go out through the top of the head, the crown of the
head? Coming in and out at that point, at that area. Is there a way that can feel good in the whole body?
(35:27) Stay in that place, how would it be if the breath comes in at the top of the head and moves right
down the body, the energy moves right down the body out the feet, in through the top of the head, down
the body and then out the feet, releasing through the feet.
(36:36) Not grasping too tightly, just being open, light with the intention. Moving that spot to the base
of the neck. What kind of breath feels best there? Long, or very long, or very short, feeling right now
for yourself in this moment. Open to the whole body. (38:13) And then, the middle of the upper back,
the sort of backside of the heart center, on the spine. What does that need? A very delicate, soothing,
gentle breath? A longer breath, that really fills the body? (39:30) How about the base of the spine? How
does the breath energy move in the body when it comes in and goes out there? How does that feel?
(40:44) If you want to, how does it feel the breath coming in through the feet, through the soles of the
feet, moving up the body out the top of the head?
(42:00) And just centering the awareness right at the core of the body, right in the middle of that whole
energy field, really putting the awareness in there, centering it there. Knowing the whole body from
that place, a spider at the center of the web know everything that happens in the web, whenever
something touches anywhere in the web it know it, it feels it. Centering right at the center of the body.
Is it possible to feel, to conceive of the breath, rather than coming in from the outside, it's actually
welling up from the center of the body, expanding from the center of the body. Expanding to fill the
body.
(44:02) Just letting the awareness stay there if you want or allowing it to go to any of those places,
whichever feels the best right now, just to be there, centered there with the breath coming in and going
out of that point, feeling the whole body. So wherever feels best.
As I was saying last night, a big part of it is attitude and if, in our attitude, we’re actually expecting the
waves we’re kind of getting off on the right foot. If we feel insulted, or inadequate because, you know,
the wave goes down into a trough then we’re off on the wrong foot. We’re kind of starting by shooting
ourselves in the foot. So, attitude, so, so, important, it’s really, really half the battle like I said last night.
How important it can be, how useful it can be as I’ve done sometimes in here starting the meditation,
really realizing this is for my own good, this is why I do this, there’s no other reason, there’s no other
reason than I’m taking care of myself and connecting with that gesture of care, of well-wishing. It’s
why I practice. Its why we practice. And also for the benefit of others. Really connecting with that,
sensing a tone of attitude a climate of attitude really, really helpful.
And again, as I said last night, even when we’re in the trough of the wave, even when things don’t
seem to be going that well, when we’re struggling, just to realise this is still a really good use of our
time. Twenty, I don’t know how long I’ve been meditating … twenty four, twenty three years, whatever
… I’ve never felt that meditation, even when it was really difficult, even just for a little bit of time, was
a waste of time. There’s always more to the picture that we’re developing and sometimes we can ignore
that. What else is being nurtured even as we feel we’re struggling? What else is being nurtured? Its
huge, it’s a much bigger picture.
So, also to do with attitude: can we incline the mind - as I said in the opening talk – towards
appreciation? This is actually not a small thing. People have been remarking on this in groups. It’s
actually something very, very fundamental. It sounds a bit like, oh you know, “that’s a bit, you know,
superficial, cosmetic surgery”, but actually it’s something very deep in the mind, inclining towards
appreciation.
And patience. This word that I introduced on the first night. Patience. Really, really, important. Can we
have a part of the mind that’s just a steady observer, learning, “what can I learn here when it’s difficult?
What can I learn when it’s going well? What can I learn when it just seems to be plateauing? The
teacher who I first learned this approach from – Ajahn Geoff, he was a monk in Thailand for twenty-
something years, and in his first year that he spoke fluent Thai, but he said they were going on about
this, his teachers, and teaching him this, and it took him six months before he even knew what they
were talking about, all this business about breath energy and body and … he didn’t even, it didn’t even
make any sense to him. Just patience, patience.
And the final piece about attitude: to be contented with what we have. So, I’m talking about
comfortable feeling, pleasant feeling. However that is, can I just be contented with that and nurture it,
and nurture it? So, attitude. Really, really key. Checking in with the attitude. Taking care of the attitude
as much as we can.
Then there’s a whole area of thoughts that I want to touch on. Of course, we meet thoughts. We meet a
lot of thoughts in the course of meditation. Some of you will remember… I can’t remember if it was
Hillary Clinton or Nancy Reagan had this anti-drug campaign in the USA. I’m not sure if it arrived
over here. The slogan was ‘just say no!’. Did you get that over here? ‘Just say no’. It’s a bit like that
with thoughts. You ‘just say no’. Sometimes. There’s a kind of renunciation involved. Part of the
difficulty with thoughts is we’re actually infatuated with them. We believe, not even consciously that
they’re going to provide some satisfaction or some excitement or some interest in an otherwise dreary
and dull, you know, day, or sitting, or whatever it is. So, there is an element of renunciation here and
sometimes you just, in the middle of a thought, “I actually don’t need to get to the end of this thought.
I’m not going to be that much happier at the end of the thought than I am at the middle of the thought.
Why pursue it?” Just say no.
Slowly, slowly, we begin to get a sense that there’s actually more satisfaction in that ‘no’ than there is
in the kind of following a thought or filling out an idea. And there is some satisfaction and fulfillment
in, you know, exploring ideas and following thought, etc., but it’s actually quite limited and not very
rich or deep. And we get used to saying ‘no’ and that renouncing of thoughts actually begins to feel “oh
this actually feels quite good”. And we see, I was talking at one point about impulses. In this impulse to
follow thoughts, or an impulse to look up, you’re meditating and someone comes in late, and, “who's
that?” or you’re walking and someone comes into the walking room, “who’s that?”
Again, are you happier now, for knowing who it is? Just to see what’s being fed by something. Is it
feeding happiness or is it actually just feeding hunger again. The hungry mind. Always needing to look.
Always needing to follow this thought. A lot of this is quite subtle.
It moves to a place where it begins. There’s nothing really tempting in the thought, there’s nothing
really there that’s very juicy for us. We’re interested in juice, were interested in happiness, and you
begin see that there’s just, like, some dry bones there. Nothing to sink your teeth into.
So, sometimes when the mindfulness is quite refined, a thought comes up and it’s almost like the
beginning of the thought and a part of the mind, you may notice, part of the mind is kind of peeking, “is
this going anywhere interesting? Might I be interested in the end of this thought?” Don’t even ask that
question. This is quite subtle, but sometimes you should, “is it going anywhere interesting?” Don’t
even ask that.
Sometimes, now we’re talking quite subtly now, but sometimes, it’s almost as if one is meditating quite
well and then there’s a vague stirring. It’s like there’s a beginning of a thought. Or almost a thought
that’s not quite fully formed. And we kind of, a part of the mind wants to define it, and say, “that was
this kind of thought”, or label it, if you’re used to a labeling technique from a different approach. And
to be clear about what it was I was thinking about. But also, we don’t need to be clear. It can just be a
vague sort of cloud of something, a fuzzy cloud, it doesn’t need to be so clear.
So, in the practice we bring the mind back an infinite number of times. We will go off. Hundreds,
thousands, millions of times. That’s ok. And we just bring the mind back, just very simply, very simply,
over and over.
And then sometimes the mind begins to stay a little bit. It stays with the sense of the body, it stays with
that sense of comfort. And this is very interesting. What is it that enables the mind, that encourages and
helps the mind to stay with that nice feeling? Sometimes, we’re just tuning into the pleasure and that’s
really what helps. Sometimes we’re there and it feels comfortable and it feels ok, and you begin to
sense in the mind a little bit of antsiness. It hasn’t moved anywhere yet but it’s just kind of looking. It’s
scouting for somewhere to move for, and it’s just a sense - either you feel it in the body or you feel it
kind of vaguely in the mind – there’s just a little bit tension, or antsiness. You can actually be sensitive
to that, and actually relax the tension, and the mind doesn’t need to move off the comfortable feeling. It
doesn’t need to move off the body.
So, in a way, we need to expect this antsiness and expect that the mind will want to look for somewhere
to move. So, we can actually start watching for the sense of antsiness. Watching for that sense of just a
little bit of, just a stirring of restlessness and tension and responding to that.
So, how might we respond? Well it might be that we need to nurture the comfort a bit more. Maybe
work with the breath, maybe make the breath a bit longer, a bit shorter, a bit more strong, a bit more
refined, whatever it is. There isn’t quite enough comfort for the mind to feel totally settled there yet.
So, the mind is antsy because there’s not enough comfort.
So, we can respond by working with the breath. We can respond by refining the quality of attention.
Sometimes the mind wants to be a bit more subtle in what it’s paying attention to, to tune in a bit more
subtly.
If there’s boredom at any time – this is a whole interesting thing, boredom – but boredom arises when
we’ve withdrawn our sensitivity from the present moment, when we’ve lost that alive kind of interest,
delicacy of attention. With that withdrawal, boredom arises. So, if there’s a moment of boredom and the
mind feels antsy with boredom, to just check the sensitivity. Is it possible to reinvigorate the
sensitivity?
So, attitude, thoughts and the movement of mind towards thoughts. The last thing I want to touch on
today is the relationship of the mind in terms of how light or heavy the pressure, the effort is - and I
touched on this last night in the talk. So, that we’re not pushing the mind too hard to concentrate. We’re
not forcing it to stay with the breath, to stay with the body. And we’re also not just letting it float away.
There’s a real delicacy of art here. And so there can be a very light question in the practice: “how heavy
right now? How heavy should the attention be?” And sometimes we can actually focus on a quality of
lightness, so we can actually focus on a quality of lightness in the body and that actually helps lighten
the mind. The body can actually feel very light instead of heavy sometimes and that can help. Or we
find the quality of lightness in the global experience of the body. That can really be helpful. Or we just
play with this, “can I have a feather-light, feather lightness of attention on the whole-body area?” The
most delicate touch of attention actually can be the most helpful sometimes.
Often with attention we’re used to thinking of, “here’s the attention and I’m paying attention to
something over there”, or “I’m up here, paying attention to the breath and the body down here”. What
would it be to have a kind of three-hundred and sixty degrees awareness? It’s almost like the awareness
sinks into this bubble, this egg of the body and is just permeating that completely. Three-hundred and
sixty degrees; aware of the back, aware of the whole of it, really permeating and suffusing. And then,
with that, kind of, the awareness is actually melting – it’s a very good word – melting into the
comfortable areas. So, we can probe what feels good, certainly. But we can also just melt into it.
Last night I very briefly mentioned in one or two of the groups, it’s possible to conceive of the breath
energy as being all around the body. All around. So, the body is kind of surrounded by this breath
energy. Or this bubble of the body is surrounded by breath energy, and in a way what you’re doing is
you’re opening the body, the sense of the body, to being in this breath energy. Or a sense of receiving it
with the whole body. All the pores are receiving this breath energy. It’s going in and out everywhere in
the body. And you can melt the body into it. You can melt the body three-hundred and sixty degrees
around into this breath energy that surrounds the body or you could melt that breath energy into the
body. Melting is a very useful thing to play with. And I think I already said the breath is all around, can
be all around, and the sense of comfort, the sense of fullness is being bathed by that. We’re bathing it
by that. We’re nourishing that sense of fullness and the whole body sense by the in and out breath.
Every time a breath goes in and out it’s like bathing and nourishing that whole body sense.
So, in a way, what can happen is one is allowing the breath to open up more and more. It’s like the
whole sense of the breath begins to open up more, can begin to open up, and you can encourage that.
The whole space and experience begins to open up. And with that it can become more and more gentle.
More and more sort of porous. This is the body, this is the breath, this is where I end. All that can begin
to sort of become more porous. And it’s almost as if the awareness can seep into the breath and into the
body.
One thing I very briefly said at the end last night: sometimes we can be aware of a kind of background
energy. So, you’ve got the breath coming in and out, but you’ve also got this kind of how this body area
feels. Someone was asking me, you know, you’re using these words – textures, vibrations, energy field
– how does this bubble, how does this egg, how does it feel? It has a certain quality. Just putting the
attention in that whole space – how does it feel? And begin to get a sense of, well, it feels a certain way,
that global sense, it feels a certain way. And sometimes the totality of that begins to feel a little bit
pleasant, and that’s the breath energy. Sometimes it begins to feel a bit constricted and that’s also the
breath energy, it’s constricted breath energy or pleasant breath energy. But it’s a more subtle level of
breath energy than the kind of in and out. So, sometimes, you might be aware of that too, and that can
actually be very helpful, tuning into that level of experience. And in a way, the in and out breath then is
just one part of the total breath energy experience. Its more subtle, but it can be really, really useful o
tune into that. For instance, you breath in, you breath out and there’s a pause before the next in breath.
Just checking, how does the body feel then? The next in breath hasn’t started, but what’s the tone in this
space? How does that space feel, the space of the body? That’s the sense of this more subtle body
sense, or this more subtle breath sense. Sometimes, the breath energy and the body energy feel like two
distinct things, but at other times they’re kind of melted in that more subtle sense.
So I want to talk tonight about the four jhanas, what’s called the four jhanas, which are states of deep
samadhi, deep samatha, deep absorption and concentration. “Jhana” is a Pali word. In Sanskrit the word
is “dhyana.” I would just like to say, to start, to put a question out for you to hold lightly during the talk
and to kind of keep in the background. What happens when you hear about this stuff? What happens in
the mind? What’s the reaction? How are you listening? If one hears about states further along than we
are at the present moment, what does the mind do with that? Does it say, “It’s rubbish where I am now.
It’s worthless. It’s not worth anything. That’s what I want.” Does it dismiss my present experience?
Does it dismiss the present experience? Does it find something in a description of something that we
don’t already have, does it use that to put ourselves down in the present? It’s that inner critic again,
using whatever it can to kind of press down on the self and berate the self. Or sometimes we hear
something and it just sounds like – somehow we’re turned off. And if we’re turned off, what’s the
reason there? What’s going on there? So just to, a very light question, how are you listening? How are
we listening to this? And what’s happening as we listen? Just to notice the reactions.
In a way, this is very – we’ve been here, I don’t know, three, three and a half days or something. And
out of a five day retreat, I don’t particularly expect most of what I’m talking about tonight to be really
present much in your experience right now. It’s very early days we’re talking about. However, for some
people who have been here much longer, some people have a long history of this kind of practice, and
it will speak definitely to what’s in their experience. For others even in the days we’ve had so far there
have been glimpses of something that’s a little bit out of the ordinary experience that one is used to. So
all that may be possible. For the most part, for most of you tonight, it will just be a matter of kind of
sitting back and listening to something, listening to a description of where this might unfold. I’ve put
an enormous amount of material out just so far in the retreat, and for once, for the most part, you don’t
actually have to do much with this tonight. It’s just listen, sit back, and kind of hear about it.
This comfortable feeling, however it is, that I’ve been talking about and pointing to and we’ve been
encouraging, slowly, slowly, and in a nonlinear way, we begin to develop that. We begin to develop it.
As it’s developing, the mind begins to like it more and more; it’s comfortable, it’s pleasant, it’s
enjoyable, it’s easeful, whatever. Because of that, the mind can settle down in it more. As the mind
settles down in it more, it grows. You get this kind of feedback loop going on, and a kind of resonance
set up. Eventually it develops and it might become more steady. It might also really grow in intensity,
but it may not grow that much in intensity. There’s a word in Pali called “piti,” and that’s usually
translated as “rapture,” or sometimes as “pleasure,” sometimes as “delight,” but let’s use just the word
piti. It’s hard to say, to draw a dividing line, where that comfortable feeling that may be ever so humble
right now, where that begins to move into the territory where we can call it piti. Maybe it’s just a
spectrum; maybe there actually isn’t a dividing line. This comfortable feeling, we could call that piti.
But we could also say there are actually many types of piti. So even right now, this comfortable feeling,
if we had the time and went through every – “describe your comfortable feeling” – we’d get a lot of
different descriptions. Similarly with piti. So a lot of different ways it manifests, and a lot of different
strengths as well. Sometimes very unremarkable. Sometimes so strong it’s like being struck by
lightning; it’s unbearably intense, the kind of rapture, and words like “bliss” and “ecstasy” are not off
the mark. But piti can manifest any way; it could be a warmth, an opening, a tingling, a kind of pleasant
vibration, a lightness. Many, many qualities it can have, but the basic qualifier for it is that it’s a
pleasant feeling arising out of meditation. Even that, I’d have to qualify, because sometimes people get
it outside of meditation; it has more to do with an openness of being. One’s in nature, or listening to
music, or just emotionally very open, and that very openness of being allows the energy channels in the
body to open up, if we use that language. The energy flows and there’s pleasantness, there’s comfort
there, there’s piti there.
So this piti begins to come into the experience, and it can be sporadically at first, but it begins to
develop and begins to get a little more steady, and then a lot more steady. One has a couple of choices
as a meditator, and in a way one can also develop the capacity to do both. One is to keep the breath, as
I’ve been describing, as something that kind of nurtures and bathes that feeling. In a way, sometimes
the breath and the piti can kind of mix together, and they become almost indistinguishable, as if one is
breathing this piti, breathing this pleasant feeling. Or, one can let the breath go, and let it be very much
in the background or even lose touch with it, and the piti comes more to the fore. That becomes the
object of concentration; it’s the thing that the mind is focusing on. One begins to develop this, focus on
it, and enable it to spread and fill the whole body. So the whole body is actually saturated with a
pleasant feeling. Again, that could be extremely pleasant, or just a little bit pleasant. I’ll come back to
this. But actually that degree of intensity of it is less important than the fact that it’s spread and it’s
steady.
When this piti – this nice feeling, this pleasant feeling that’s come from meditation – when that’s steady
and staying minutes and longer, and it’s suffusing the whole body, and the mind is really, really
enjoying it, and the mind kind of absorbs into it, really rubs its nose into it, dissolves into it, gets inside
it, gets to know it, that state is called the first jhana, the first absorption or the first state of
concentration. The Buddha had very beautiful poetic images for the jhanas. I’ll just read you each as I
go through them. He’s talking about someone, “He enters” – could be she, of course – “He enters and
abides in the first jhana, and makes the rapture and pleasure drench, steep, fill and pervade this body, so
that there is no part of his whole body unpervaded by the rapture and pleasure. Just as a skilled bath
man or bath man’s apprentice heaps bath powder in a metal basin and, sprinkling it gradually with
water, kneads it until the moisture wets his ball of bath powder” – in those days you couldn’t go to the
supermarket and buy a bar of soap, there would be someone in the public baths mixing soap powder
into a ball for each individual bather, and they would mix it and give this thing to the person – “kneads
it until the moisture wets his ball of bath powder, soaks it and pervades it inside and out, yet the ball
itself does not ooze, so to he makes the rapture and pleasure drench, steep, fill and pervade this body,
so there is no part of his whole body unpervaded by the rapture and pleasure.” So the important thing is
– it’s interesting, it’s quite an active image. This person is really mixing something. Sometimes, with
this comfortable feeling – that, again, please remember, may be, for many people here, in the future –
one is actively kind of mixing that through the body, kind of pushing it. “How do my legs feel?”,
getting it down there, mixing it in the body. At other times it will be much more kind of hands off and
subtle, the way that one gets it to spread. It’s almost like just letting it spread, or opening up the
awareness, and then it spreads. But the Buddha chooses quite an active image, which is interesting.
One learns that. One learns to do that, and one does it over and over and over, and really begins to
enjoy it. That state begins to deepen. In time, it ripens into what’s called the second jhana, which is
quite similar except a couple things have changed. In the background, so to speak, in the first jhana –
there was this piti there – and in the background was a kind of happiness, a very deep happiness. But
the piti is so strong that oftentimes a meditator doesn’t notice even that there’s a lot of happiness there.
In the second jhana, what happens is the happiness comes to the fore, and the piti goes a little bit to the
background. The piti is very much still there, but what’s really prominent in the experience of the
second jhana is happiness – really unbelievable happiness, profound outpouring in the being, a very
deep and incredibly fulfilling happiness. The other factor that happens in the second jhana is that – in
the first jhana, for a lot of people, it’s still possible to use reflective thought and kind of evaluate how
the meditation is going. You can actually think about the breath, “Should I make it longer now?”, et
cetera. It’s what’s called applied and evaluating thought. That kind of disappears in the second jhana, in
the sense that the mind can’t follow a thought in that state. So thoughts, as something that the mind
follows, have kind of disappeared. There’s really nothing going on but this happiness. Beautiful welling
up of happiness. The Buddha has a very lovely image for this. “Just as though there were a mountain
lake whose waters welled up from below” – so you’ve got a mountain spring feeding a lake – “whose
waters welled up from below, and it had no inflow from east, west, north, or south, and would not be
replenished from time to time by showers of rain, then the cool fount of water welling up in the lake
would make the cool water drench, steep, fill and pervade the lake, so that there would be no part of the
whole lake unpervaded by cool water; so too he makes the rapture and pleasure” – he’s talking about
the rapture and happiness this time – “born of concentration, drench, steep, fill and pervade this body,
so that there is no part of this whole body unpervaded by the happiness and rapture.” You have to
remember they’re living in a very hot climate, so the idea of a cool lake is actually quite appealing.
[laughter] Whereas August in Devon… [laughter] But to listeners that would have been a very beautiful
– can you hear the beauty of the image? You’ve got this lake, and it’s just being fed, and in a way – I
find the poetic images incredibly precise, somehow, poetically. They don’t work for everyone, but
they’re really quite precise.
Again, a meditator gets used to that. This all really takes time. A meditator gets used to that, and gets
used to really drenching, really absorbing in that. After a time, it’s almost as if the happiness
completely fulfills the being. So what we want is happiness, and here it is just like a waterfall, or an
inner spring of it, and we have enough. The heart feels like, “I have enough.” Totally fulfilled by the
happiness. And then something happens: it begins to mellow. It’s like the happiness begins to mellow.
It goes through a couple of stages. It passes through a stage where there’s this profound sense of
contentment. It’s interesting – if we say “rapture” or “ecstasy” or “bliss,” describing the first jhana, and
then we say “contentment begins to move into the third jhana,” most people would say rapture and bliss
and ecstasy sound much better. But actually there’s something about this contentment; it’s much more
satisfying. It’s something that we don’t really taste in our everyday life. These are states that are beyond
the emotional range and certainly the range of consciousness that most human beings would be used to.
It’s a profound sense of satisfaction, fulfillment, contentment, that’s also very, very peaceful. It’s
exquisitely peaceful. That begins to deepen, and the sense of peacefulness begins to really come to the
fore. At this point, the rapture has sort of faded from the experience. So the sort of baths of ecstasy, et
cetera, has faded, and what’s there is just a very mellow, indescribably beautiful, sweet, tender
peacefulness that’s just suffusing everything. The Buddha, again, a similar kind of image: “Just as in a
pond of blue or red or white lotuses, some lotuses that are born and grow in the water thrive immersed
in the water, without rising out of it, and cool water drenches, steeps, fills and pervades them to their
tips and their roots, so that there is no part of all those lotuses unpervaded by cool water, so too he
makes the pleasure” – really the peacefulness, the happiness – “divested of rapture” – the rapture is
gone – “drench, steep, fill and pervade this body, so that there is no part of this whole body unpervaded
by the pleasure divested of rapture.”
In a way, each of these stages has kind of gradations within it. It can be that that peacefulness begins to
kind of expand out. So it very much starts with contentment and the peacefulness is here, and then it
kind of expands out and it’s almost as if one is in a realm of peacefulness, so that when the birds sing
out there or crow or whatever they do, they’re singing of peace. They’re expressing peace. Everything
gets colored that way; everything is speaking of peace. It’s very hard, in that kind of state, to be
disturbed by sensory jolts, et cetera; you definitely might hear them still, but a sense of peace is
pervading everything. Again, one develops that, and this really takes time, et cetera, and eventually that
deepens, too. One moves to the fourth jhana. One is almost submerged or cocooned in a state of total
stillness. The mind and the body have kind of dissolved in stillness. The body very much just – all
that’s there is the sense of exquisite stillness. The mind, too, dissolved in stillness. That stillness,
though, is very bright; there’s a real sense of incredible aliveness. Sometimes it’s visually very bright.
Sometimes all these states are visually very bright, like white, golden light. But there’s an incredible
sense of aliveness and presence, and a sense of really being there. This moment is very alive, very
present. It’s also very refined. So what’s happening here is the states are getting more and more refined.
In a way, rapture, relative to the stillness of what I’m talking about now, is something quite gross – it’s
very buzzy and sort of “yehaw” kind of thing. [laughter] This is something very, very exquisite and
incredibly refined. It’s very, very subtle; extremely subtle. One of the things that’s happening as the
mind deepens through this is the mind itself is becoming more refined. It’s able to notice and stay with
very, very refined objects. So the peacefulness in the third jhana is very, very refined. It would be hard
– it’s almost like we train the mind to be able to stay with that degree of refinement. Now, sometimes,
we hear about this or whatever and we want to kind of rush through all this. I feel it’s more useful if
one just spends time in each stage and lets it ripen like a fruit ripening. It’s just ready to move into the
next stage. Sometimes you can kind of encourage it and nudge it, but for the most part it just ripens.
The Buddha’s image for that one: “He sits pervading this body with a pure bright mind” – pure bright
awareness – “so there is no part of his whole body unpervaded by the pure bright mind. Just as though
a man were sitting covered from the head down with a white cloth, so that there would be no part of his
whole body unpervaded by the white cloth; so too he sits pervading this body with a pure bright mind,
so that there is no part of his whole body unpervaded by that.” So it’s interesting, it does sound a lot
less dramatic, but actually, without exception, a meditator finds them more fulfilling as they go deeper.
Sometimes people get into states like these but they’re not – it’s all a bit amorphous. It’s quite
important to know “this is this state, this is this state, that’s that state,” there’s something quite
important about that, rather than just “I’m in a state that really feels extraordinary and very good.”
There is something about knowing each one. They can be experienced as kind of the mind making a
quantum leap from one state to another, you’re really in something different now, or they can be
experienced as a continuum, both. But it’s really important to know them as something separate and
really know, “Ah, this is the second jhana,” et cetera.
I mentioned that sometimes, quite often, people get secondary effects, what’s called “nimittas” in Pali.
The most common one is bright, white light. Some of you may even be experiencing that now. The
mind produces kind of bright, white light. It’s just a sign that the mind is deepening in the
concentration. Sometimes these can be a bit of a distraction, but if a meditator can blend them in with
the rapture or the happiness, et cetera, they can be really useful. But they’re not essential to what’s
going on. Sometimes they get a little over-emphasized in the teaching of all this. What is essential is
the suffusion. The whole body steeped in this, the pervading of the whole body. If you notice every
time the Buddha talks about it, he uses those words – drench, suffuse, steep. That’s actually essential.
The other essential thing is the steadiness. The word “jhana” is related to a word “jhayati,” which is the
word for the steadiness of a candle flame. So there’s something very, very steady in the state. Those
factors, the suffusion and the steadiness, are actually more important than intensity. Mind-blowing
ecstasy, for example, is not as important as the steadiness or suffusion. Also, interestingly, the degree of
absorption – some people say it’s not a jhana until someone could chop your head off and you wouldn’t
realize. Maybe there is that degree of absorption, and I guess that could come in handy. [laughter] But
actually that’s not the significant factor. There will be a continuum of absorption; sometimes one feels
more absorbed, sometimes less. Of course one is trying to be more absorbed, but that’s not so
important. One also tends to assume that the more intense and the more absorbed the better, but not
always. Someone might have extreme absorption, extreme intensity of experience, but there’s actually
not much wisdom or difference happening in a person’s life. So those aren’t really the key factors.
It’s possible, and I would say it’s strongly, strongly preferable with all of this, to actually – a meditator
can learn to develop mastery of each of these states, so what that means is that one is able to sit down,
or stand, or walk, or whatever it is, and just say, “Bliss.” And there it comes. Or just say, “Stillness.”
And there it comes. Just a very slight intention, and there it is, and then one is able to sustain that and
absorb into it. That might sound incredibly far-fetched but it’s actually not, and in fact there are people
in this room right now who have been here for a while or doing this kind of practice for a while and are
quite able to do that. A mastery at being able to enter, being able to come out of it, being able to sustain
it, et cetera. So even possible to go for long walks and be in one of these states and the body just kind
of knows what to do, where to put the feet, et cetera. This is all very, very possible. That degree of
mastery is, I think, really, really preferable, in terms of making a long-term difference to one’s life, over
a kind of glimpse of an experience, which can be helpful or can be not helpful. If an experience, if a
jhanic experience, is a one-off – like you had this one experience that was like “wow” and then never
again – that’s when it’s dangerous in terms of attachment, because the mind just went, “Wow, that was
so different. I just want to get back there.” Once it begins starting to be a bit more regular and a bit
more accessible, the problem of attachment is actually not that great at all. The Buddha also
emphasized this mastery and the kind of letting things ripen. He has this image of a foolish cow that’s
grazing in a field in the mountains, and then this foolish cow thinks, “I wonder what that field is like,”
and it has to go down this mountainside and into a ravine to get to the other one. It goes down there, out
of curiosity for the other field, and then it can’t get out of the ravine. It can’t get to the new field, and it
can’t get back to the old one. So there’s something – the idea is just stay where you are and let things
ripen. Part of this mastery that’s involved, that I’m saying is quite possible with long-term dedication to
this, is that one gets the sense that these are kind of like frequencies or radio waves that are in the air all
the time. What one is doing is sort of tuning one’s mind, tuning one’s radio tuner, in to a certain
frequency. You tune it into rapture, or you tune it into happiness or peacefulness or whatever, and you
just abide with that. So it can be a little like opening your wardrobe and you’ve got clothes hanging and
you say, “Hmm, that one.” But the sense of what’s going on begins to change, and it moves to the very
real sense that they’re there all the time. They’re there all the time and it’s more a sense of tuning into
something. There’s something quite important about that shift.
Something with all this: attitude. I’ll remind you of the question that I started with. Just, how are you
hearing this right now? How are you hearing this? For a practitioner who is going through all this or
has the possibility to go through all this, even then attitude is really, really important. It’s very common
to kind of grasp at this word “jhana” or want to have a badge that says “first jhana” or something. The
ego can get a hold of it that way; it’s very easy. Much better to regard this as a kind of lifetime
deepening. Over a lifetime, we’re deepening in this beautiful, beautiful exploration of the deepening of
consciousness, the deepening of samadhi. There’s just a kind of lifetime commitment to it, as part of
our whole practice. Slowly, slowly, these things can come to us if we’re interested in them and if we
put the work in. I, actually, when I’m working with people one-on-one, I almost never use the word
jhana. Oftentimes it’s a word that people grab hold of in the wrong way and make too much of. So I
actually talk much more in terms of “How’s the happiness doing? Are you able to pervade the
comfortable feeling?” I introduce the word jhana much, much later, when things are much more settled
and normalized, et cetera.
It’s also important to realize that for someone who goes into this there will still be the whole continuum
of experience. All that is still – the whole continuum of difficulty and the effort level, I think is what
I’m trying to say – that will still be very much part of the experience, a part of the practice. So
sometimes one finds oneself in a beautiful state, and it feels completely effortless, totally suffused and
right there and just totally effortless. Sometimes, in fact more often, perhaps, there’s a degree of
tweaking going on. Someone told me, in fact a lot of people told me today, that I’ve been using words
they don’t understand, that apparently are American words. [laughter] So if I talk American, say
something. Is tweaking okay? [laughter] Okay. There’s a degree of tweaking going on, and what I mean
by that is that one is still doing some subtle work in the absorption, just a little bit more of this, a little
bit less, relax a little bit, working with all these factors that I’ve been throwing out. It’s just on a more
subtle level. That’s going on. Sometimes it feels effortless, sometimes there’s a degree of tweaking
going on. Sometimes there are niggles going on, even, and you’re trying – one is working to do the best
that one can and iron them out. Sometimes the hindrances are sort of around, but they’re not prominent.
It’s as if they’re like a little pack of sort of terrier dogs, but they’re just outside the door, sort of
yapping, yapping, yapping. They’re not quite in the foreground of the experience. Sometimes there’s a
full-blown hindrance attack, multiple hindrance attack. All that is the practice of samadhi, even the
practice of jhana practice. It’s all involved. So expect that. There’s a subtle work going on quite a lot of
the time, and sometimes not so subtle at all.
Okay, so, hearing about this, and even before we heard about this, just in terms of the practice we’re
doing, this is a question that’s come up from a few people and it’s very important. Is this escapism? Am
I escaping into some kind of la-la land? Am I not dealing with my psychological difficulties that need
to be dealt with? This is a very important question. It comes out of a lot of integrity and honesty. It’s
important that we ask this question. I touched on it, I think, in the talk on the first evening. You have to
see – to repeat a little bit – you have to see what we’re doing on this retreat in context. It’s one kind of
slice out of the whole of what practice is. We’re just emphasizing that slice for the purpose of this
retreat. See it in context. Am I able, as a practitioner, am I able to meet my emotional – what’s difficult
emotionally? Am I able to open to what’s difficult emotionally? Do I know how to do that? Can I draw
near? Can I open? Can I touch and hold what’s going on that’s difficult, emotionally, physically,
psychologically, et cetera? Am I able to do that? And am I able to put that down and go into something
else? Am I also able to kind of understand what might be feeding that difficulty, and understand it in a
way that defuses it? All of that is part of practice. We’re just emphasizing one part right now. If I’m
able to do all that, then the question of “am I avoiding or not avoiding?” becomes quite secondary. It’s
like, sometimes I can do this, and sometimes I can do that. And if I’ve chosen to, I don’t know, bliss out
for a while, and that’s the wrong choice, it’ll show itself. It’ll show itself. The fact of one’s ability to
move between the two gives more freedom. One is less worried about making the wrong choice there.
You can do both. It’s not that one exclusively does one or the other. So, is it escapism? The Buddha
actually calls this an escape. The first jhana is an escape from the hindrances. It’s an escape from sloth
and torpor and restlessness and doubt and greed and anger and aversion. It’s an escape from all that
that’s difficult. The second jhana is an escape from being caught up in thought or from following
thought. The third jhana is an escape from the relative grossness of rapture. They’re escapes. Is it an
escape in terms of our connection with other people? Absolutely not. What one realizes as one goes
deeply into samadhi practice is that there is really love in this. The samadhi, what just starts as the
comfortable feeling, when it grows and particularly when it reaches the happiness stage, it’s actually
got a lot of love in it. There’s a real quality of love kind of mixed in with the happiness. As that goes
deeper into the territory of the third jhana, there’s a real tenderness in there. The heart is extremely
tender and open with all of that. All of this makes us, in a way, more emotionally available – to
ourselves, to others, and to life. We’re being bathed in this love, in this tenderness, and it really opens
up the availability in our life. Having access, in one’s life, to this kind of independent sense of
happiness and well-being gives a tremendous confidence. We just feel a confidence that I can be happy.
I can be happy, and that’s a big deal. It’s a big deal to know that I can be happy, and not only that, I can
actually be happy in an independent way, not so needy. It doesn’t make us cold and cut off, but we’re
just not so needy.
Again, as the samadhi develops, there’s a real faith that comes up. You see, “Oh, my experience totally
matches what the Buddha said. And then my next experience totally matches what the Buddha...” And
it keeps going. You think, “Well, maybe if this much is true, one, two, three, four, et cetera, it’s
probably all true.” It gives a real, real faith. There’s incredible healing in all of this. Any even pre-
jhanic samadhi, what we’re mostly dealing with on this retreat, just that bathing the body, bathing the
sense of well-being, that healing that comes from that – it just deepens, it just deepens. Incredibly
healing for the body, incredibly healing for the mind, the emotional body, the nervous system, all of
that. A lot of healing here. A lot of people find their intuitive capacities growing; there’s something
about this that opens up the intuition quite deeply. The sensitivity to life is also opened.
Tomorrow I’m going to talk a lot about the relationship of concentration, of samatha, and insight. I just
want to touch very briefly this evening on a little bit of that. All this that I’ve just talked about has a
dramatic effect – or should have a dramatic effect – on our relationship with greed and sense desire
and also on aversion. One has something here that’s actually a lot better, to put it grossly, a lot better
than what one can get through sense pleasure. There’s less of this kind of hunger in the mind to go out
and – one just has enough. That’s a shift that particularly starts happening around the second jhana.
There’s a real re-evaluating of where the happiness comes from in life, and it really sinks down into the
being where the happiness is. Sometimes, and again I don’t know if this sounds crass or not, but
sometimes just taking, say, the first three jhanas – I wonder what that’s worth in money terms.
[laughter] It’s a ridiculous question, of course, but I don’t know. Millions? Billions? Whatever you
could buy with money won’t give you that same satisfaction. A massive yacht that’s moored in the
Caribbean, with waiters and people who fan you. [laughter] And bring you those cocktails with
umbrellas in them. Imagine you had that, whenever you wanted. You had a private jet that could fly you
there whenever you got a little stressed out at work. It’s just [snaps], “Jeeves?” [laughter] And along
comes a chauffeur and takes you to your private jet and off you go. The azure, clear waters, the
beautiful, blue sky, et cetera. It doesn’t compare. It doesn’t compare. I don’t know how much money
one would need to have all that. Sorry to be crass, but.
One of the other insights, in the third jhana, there’s a degree of peacefulness and one realizes there’s a
kind of wishlessness that comes with that peacefulness. One is totally satisfied, totally contented, and
with that, one doesn’t wish for anything. One is not wanting anything more or anything less. An insight
drops: peacefulness comes from wishlessness, from not wishing, from having no wishes. That’s the
deepest kind of peacefulness. With all of these jhanas – I’ll touch on this at some other point – but
there’s a progressively getting to know less self. There’s less self around. It’s like the self is just getting
more and more in the background and being quiet; it’s not being so built up. The Buddha said develop
samadhi. Develop samadhi. When the samadhi is really developed, “the mind can move mountains,” he
said, “let alone measly ignorance.” To move ignorance means to be completely enlightened. He said
once samadhi is developed, it’s like that’s easy. It’s a tremendous resource in our lives. Sometimes we
think, “Well, how is that going to apply to my daily life?” Actually, with the practice of this, it’s
possible to have things like rapture, comfortable feeling, piti, and even happiness or more,
peacefulness, et cetera, as qualities – maybe not full jhanic absorption as one’s moving through the
business of the day, but as qualities that are actually quite accessible. One begins to be able to just draw
on them in the middle of a difficult situation. One just draws on that quality, and it changes one’s
relationship with the situation. That’s actually much more accessible than one might think.
There was once – I can’t remember the whole story – but there was once a novice monk called Kunda,
and someone had said to him, “You Buddhist monks and nuns, you’re addicted to lying and cheating
and stealing and killing and sense pleasure and greed and all of that.” Being very new, he kind of didn’t
know what to respond. So he went back to the Buddha and the Buddha said to him, “Well, if someone
says that, you should say no, we’re not addicted to that. But we are addicted to four forms of pleasure-
seeking. My disciples are addicted to four forms of pleasure-seeking.” He uses this word “addicted.”
“We’re addicted to four forms of pleasure-seeking. Those are the pleasures of the first, second, third
and fourth jhana. We’re addicted to that.” He goes on to say, “Because they are entirely conducive to
disenchantment, to awakening, to nirvana.” Entirely conducive to nirvana – “This is a pleasure that I
will allow myself. This is a pleasure that leads to nirvana,” he says. He’s very, very clear about that. He
goes on to say, in the same passage, “There are four fruits that can be expected for one who is given to
these four forms of pleasure-seeking. They are the four stages of enlightenment, the four stages of
awakening.” That’s what’s to be expected. He’s very clear: pursue this because it leads to awakening.
Develop this pleasure because it leads to awakening.
So this question of attachment, it’s very rarely a problem. I’ll put it that way. There are cases where it
is. But it’s very rarely a problem. I think I used the image of a ladder in one of the talks – it’s a little bit
like, what’s quite common, if I’m working one-on-one with someone, and they’re going through this,
they reach the level of the third jhana, and this exquisite peacefulness, and then they – I have to prod
them a little and check, “Hey, are you still keeping up the first jhana?” Because they look back and all
that ecstasy and all that buzz seems like, “I don’t want that.” It seems gross. And the mind kind of
withdraws from it. There’s a natural letting go of the lower states, and that progressively builds. To
follow that image of the ladder, it’s almost like one is grabbing this rung up there, which enables one to
let go of the rung down there. Then one grabs the rung above, progressively, progressively. So there is a
way that the path of samatha, this unfolding of all this in its depths, leads, in itself, all the way to
awakening. It’s one of the roots that are available, that lead all the way to nirvana. But always it’s part
of the whole path. All the factors that I began the retreat talking about, generosity, ethics,
lovingkindness, insight, all that, that’s always part of the path. Practitioners vary in – let’s put it this
way – in the degree that they emphasize samatha. Some people emphasize it very, very little, and some
people emphasize it really a lot, and some people are kind of medium. That’s all fine, and that depends
on individual personalities and predispositions and that kind of stuff. But it is possible just in and of
itself, if you’re reflecting on the samatha in the right way, that it leads all the way to awakening. On
this retreat, we’re really emphasizing the samatha. We’re really emphasizing that slice of the path.
Tomorrow I’m going to talk about the relationship of concentration, of samatha, and insight, and how
they feed each other. That’s really what goes on – the samatha feeds the insight in a very deep way, and
the insight feeds the samatha. They’re mutually reinforcing.
So, a little bit of a map. I think what I really want to say is that actually this – what I’ve described
tonight is more available than it might sound. I don’t know how it sounds. It will sound different ways
to different people. But it’s more available than one might think. It’s there for a practitioner if one
wants it.
How are you doing? Are you tired? I could open it up for questions now, or should we not?
Let’s take a little time and do that, if you’re not too tired, then. Any questions about what I’ve just been
talking about?
[inaudible question]
Rob: Second jhana? In the first jhana, you’ve got a lot of physical rapture and physical ecstasy. In the
second jhana, what comes to be more prominent is happiness, the quality of joy or happiness. Very,
very deep happiness. That sort of takes the center stage, and one just absorbs in that happiness. The
rapture or physical ecstasy is still there, but it’s – it’s not in the background but it’s not as prominent as
the happiness. The other factor that sort of defines the second jhana is that there may be a little flicker
of thought or an image, this or that kind of sparking in the mind, but it’s not possible to follow a
thought, or to think a thought, so to speak. Thought has kind of gone, and happiness is really filling the
experience.
[inaudible question]
Rob: Preconceptions getting in the way? Yeah, yeah. It’s definitely a potential issue. There’s two words,
one is preconceptions and one is expectations. Yesterday in the talk, I very briefly talked about having
one’s mind so much on the results that one is neglecting paying attention to the causes. What are the
causes? The thing that we’ve been doing, nurturing, playing with the breath, playing with the mind,
nurturing that pleasant feeling. If I’m thinking, “It should be like this,” that’s really going to get in the
way. In terms of preconceptions, that can work both ways. Sometimes, yes, one kind of gets into a state
and wants to paint it in a way that, “Now I’ve got that first jhana badge.” But in other ways it can be
helpful in just kind of – not freaking someone out, when they have a new experience. “Oh, this is
referred to, this is common, this is something that people have been experiencing for thousands of
years. It has a context. It has a framework.” So I’m aware of that, but I think there’s a benefit for
providing that framework and that map. I remember doing solitary retreats in the past, and working on
samatha, getting into some states which I only realized “oh, this is whatever jhana” because I had read
the description before. Then I could kind of work with that and relate it to what I’d experienced before.
So it can be a problem and it can also be useful. As I said at the beginning, the Buddha seemed fond of
doing that, so, humbly I follow his example. But it’s a good point.
[inaudible question]
Rob: That’s a loaded one, yeah. Did everyone hear that? “Are we saying you can’t get enlightened
without the jhanas?” Am I saying, or…? [laughter] The Buddha said there’s no jhana without wisdom,
but he also said there’s no wisdom without jhana. The degree of that might vary. In other words, what
my teacher usually said is that you can’t be enlightened without an experience of at least the first jhana.
I don’t know, to be honest. I tend – if it’s available for someone, I really tend to emphasize it, because
what I see – and I’ll talk about this tomorrow – what I see is that they’re so good for insight, even more
than they are for just juice on the path. They do such a lot for insight and for allowing insight to really
deepen and take root in the being, and for different kinds of understanding to unfold. I wouldn’t like to
say – it would involve working with a lot of people who actually reach enlightenment and seeing how
many of them didn’t do that. There are people at Gaia House who have reached stages of
enlightenment. I want to say that, actually. That happens here on long-term retreat. But I haven’t
worked with enough of them to know if that’s the case. That’s all I would say. So I don’t feel it’s for me
to say. I tend to emphasize them when they’re available for a person. I never push someone into this. I
never – if they don’t want to do it, that’s totally fine. I always respect that. But if it’s available and
they’re interested, I gently tend to encourage it because I see that it’s really good for insight. That’s
most of the reason why I would emphasize it. So I’m not really answering your question, but. Is that
okay? Okay.
[inaudible question]
Rob: Yes. Thank you. Yes. They are very – I briefly made that point, it’s quite or relatively common for
a person to be meditating quite a long time and get what could be quite intense experiences but they’re
vague and not really defined; they don’t really know if it’s this jhana or that jhana. I think it’s
important, I’ll go into this a little bit perhaps as part of the context of tomorrow’s talk, to be very
precise and know. It doesn’t mean there can’t be some variation from time to time in how each one
feels, but there is a lot of precision. The Buddha is extremely precise in his teaching. He’s a very
precise teacher. [questioner continues] Is there movement? Yes. In fact, sorry, I forgot to say. Once one
has mastered, one can kind of ping-pong around at will, so you’re in bliss and you just think, “Okay,
stillness.” And you ping-pong there. Then you say, “Okay, some happiness.” And you can just spend
your time – very possible. Really, really possible. Totally. Yeah.
[inaudible question]
Rob: I’m not the only one who does it. I’m really not the only one. The Dharma is very young in the
West. You have to think back – where are we now? 2008. When did the Dharma – this kind of tradition,
insight meditation tradition, took root in the West in the middle to late ‘70s. You’re talking about 30
years old. It came through certain, two or three particular streams of traditions which tended to really
not emphasize samatha. I totally respect that. But that’s what took hold. As the Dharma is growing –
and it’s very, very young. You think about a 2600 year old tradition, it’s been in the West for 30 years.
This is baby time. We are baby time now. There are all kinds of factors – how is Dharma meeting
modern psychotherapy and psychology? That’s really shaping things. How is Dharma, this tradition,
meeting other traditions, like Tibetan traditions, et cetera? There’s a whole kind of birthing process
going on. It’s very early days. My guess is that in the next 5, 10, 20 years there will be lots of different
strands available to practitioners. Different people emphasizing one and the other. It will be much more
available, much more mainstream. It’s starting to happen already. It’s already starting to happen.
Historically, there are reasons – it’s more to do with, for the most part, which particular streams were
the really popular streams that took root when the Dharma or insight meditation originally came in the
70s.
Questioner: I was just wondering, the way that we’re practicing in the West, we tend to have busy lives
and come to a retreat once or twice a year. Sort of short-term. Do you see a potential danger with our
tendency to grasp at quick fixes, that we might embrace this stand of practice and forget all about
perhaps other strands like compassion, or do you think it can be a real tool in developing compassion?
Rob: I think it can be a real tool. Like I said, it brings compassion. There’s no question about it; one is
just more available. They kind of – the jhanas themselves are infused with that quality. Real love and
tenderness are in there. It’s also not a quick fix, this path – it takes a lot of work, don’t get me wrong.
You can see. Has this been hard work? [laughter] It’s been hard work. That doesn’t mean it’s not
enjoyable and can’t be nice a lot of the time, but it’s still, even when it’s going well, it’s still hard work.
There’s an aspect to it that’s hard work. I suppose that’s possible, for someone to over-emphasize this at
the expense of another part of the path. But one could do that with any part of the path, and like I said a
few times on this retreat, the Dharma is something very wide. This retreat, we’re just emphasizing one
part. We have to see things in context. It’s almost like, being able to do different things, being able to
embrace different parts – there might be periods of one’s life where one is emphasizing one particular
strand of that, and periods of one’s life where one is emphasizing another, and that’s fine. People will
differ in terms of how much concentration they can do in the middle of a very busy life. Some people
are completely fine with doing it in the middle of a busy city and going to work and commuting and all
that. Some people, less so. But it’s still, I would say, much more available than one would think. Does
that answer? Yeah. Okay.
Questioner: You talked about being very precise. This is more an observation than question. To me, it
felt very intellectual. I find that quite difficult to relate to.
Rob: Okay. What could we replace that with? I guess what I’m saying is there’s a real difference, say,
between the first and the second jhana. It’s important to know when you’re in one and in the other,
that’s all. That’s not an intellectual process; that’s a really embodied, like, you just know, like you know
your best friend from your husband or whatever. You know the difference.
Questioner: So it’s not important to know the name of it? Know that it’s the first or second or third
jhana, just that it’s different?
Rob: Yeah, that it’s different. Like I said, I rarely – when I’m working with someone one-on-one, I
rarely use the word “jhana.” I wait for the person to use their own language, and then I’ll pick up on
that language. If you start using the word “joy” or “delightful” I’ll just mirror that back to you. I’ll use
your language. But in the back of my mind I’m kind of thinking, “Okay, there are discrete things which
you know. There’s this, there’s this. And then later on you can map them onto first, second.” But that’s
much later. By that point it’s a very intimate experience to you and very embodied.
Questioner: Just a question about the actual practice. You said yesterday in the group interview that we
had that when there’s this kind of bliss, this pleasure, to really see when you’re holding back and really
go for it. Then you said the intensity isn’t necessarily as important as the steadiness and that it’s all-
pervasive. So it’s just a kind of question about that, whether to keep going with that like you said
yesterday in group, when the intensity is growing and growing and growing, or whether to sit in a space
where it’s slightly less intense? [inaudible]
Rob: Can you hear that at the back? Okay, so the question is, having said that the intensity is not that
important – she’s saying when she kind of surrenders to this really lovely feeling it gets really intense.
She can do that, but it’s really intense. Or she can kind of spread it in the body and work on spreading
it. Both are important. There will be a kind of patch of time where it goes for a period where it’s almost
too intense, a little bit. But you’re just going through a phase there, and the whole movement of this is
towards more mellowness. So one just has to – you know, sometimes it’s unbearably pleasant. You just
have to weather that period. The more you surrender to it, the more you won’t get hung up there and it
will just move. Go into it, but be very open, and work also on spreading it. It will be intense, but it’s
okay. Don’t worry about the movement inside; if your body actually starts shaking see if you can keep
it still, and open up inside, open up the energy channels inside and let it move inside, but see if you can
keep the physical body still. You’re not disturbing anyone at all; it’s quite a common feeling to think
it’s a bit too much, but it’s fine. It’s fine. Okay?
Questioner: You’ve been saying this is a nonlinear process, not just the jhanas but the whole samadhi.
[inaudible]
Rob: There is a progression, and in that sense, it’s linear. But within that, it’s almost like you’ll be zig-
zagging up – it’s going to be nonlinear within that larger linearity. In other words, some days you’re
going to feel great, and the next sitting you feel it’s terrible. That’s very common. Then it’s kind of
middling. But generally where you are one year, you’re in a different place the next year, or the next
month, or whatever it is. Okay? All right.
So to review. So far, three aspects that we can play with. The first is the breath, and the quality of the
breath. Does it want to be long, is it helpful for the breath to be long, is it more helpful for it to be short,
is it better stronger or more subtle, is it smooth or rough? Really one aspect of what we can play with is
to engage with that, the quality of the breath, and just to experiment with that. Second one was
breathing – conceiving of the breath as coming in and out of different areas of the body. So instead of
the usual conception of the breath coming in here and going down in the lungs and going out – which is
totally fine, of course – conceiving with it in much more creative ways, much more unusual ways,
perhaps. Including, in that, for some people – again, this is so individual; different people will be
picking up different things in all of this. In a way, that’s why I’m putting out all this different stuff.
Someone will grab this piece, someone will grab that piece, and it’s all fine. But for some people the
conceiving of the breath as sort of something all around the body, that the body is just kind of osmosing
in and out, that can be a very helpful way of conceiving the breath. There’s the quality of the breath,
and the way we conceive of the breath. And then the third factor that we can experiment with, play
with, is the effort level, and so to speak how heavy or light the attention is. The attention can be really
kind of probing, or much more receptive, almost as if the mind receives the touch of the breath. It’s just
receiving it, it’s open. The mind can be quite tight, holding the body sense quite tightly, and sometimes
that’s really appropriate, or it can be really loose. We’re responding to this, playing with this. We can
melt into the breath. The awareness melts into the breath, or it kind of probes it or holds it. Playing with
that sense, especially the sense of the effort level. So those are three aspects to play with. That’s
absolutely plenty. In fact you probably can’t do all of it at once anyway, but just to take a little piece
and experiment.
In a way, to sum all of that up in a nutshell, it’s just be with the breath, be with the experience of the
breath in the body, however you feel it. That’s going to vary for different individuals. However you feel
the breath, that’s what you’re with. If I’m going on about breath energies and blah blah blah, and it
doesn’t make any sense, that’s fine. What do you feel when you breathe in? What do you feel when you
breathe out? What do you feel in between the breaths, when you’re neither breathing in nor out? That’s
your experience, and that’s what you go with. How can I make that experience more comfortable, just a
little bit more comfortable? It’s actually that simple. If something I’m putting out is feeling like, “I’m
really not getting that,” don’t latch onto that as something to make a problem of. It’s very, very
common for the mind to want to do that. Just take – what does the breath feel like for me, right now,
and can I make that more comfortable?
I remember saying my teacher, Ajahn Geoff, six months at least before he even began to – every day,
like a six month retreat in his monastery. Every day, hearing about this. Not having a clue what they
were talking about. And then just beginning, after six months, to have a clue. I would really call him a
meditation master. With that, to really be contented with what you have, in terms of the comfortable
feeling. Sometimes it’ll be a little stronger, sometimes it won’t be, sometimes it won’t be there at all.
Just to be contented and to nourish that, focusing on the positive. So that is plenty and in fact it’s more
than enough.
Very optional this morning, another thing to play with. That is in the realm of perception, or with the
whole factor of perception. A couple of mornings ago, we did a guided meditation, breathing in
different parts of the body. Well, I can’t actually remember exactly which points I did, but it’s possible
to sit there in meditation and feel the breath coming up through the feet, up the body. It’s possible.
Perhaps down again, or perhaps up and out the head. It’s also possible, five seconds later, to feel the
breath going in the top of the head and down the body and out the feet, or back up to the top of the
head. Which of those is right? Which of those is the real one? Or are they both going on at the same
time? What’s going on here? In a way, we can see what we want to see. We’re moving towards being
able to see what we want to see. This could, what I’ve just said about the breath, it could bring up a
whole lot of doubt, and you say, “I knew it, this is all just mind games, et cetera,” but actually there’s a
lot of potentially very deep insight here into the nature of perception – extremely important.
Perception. I’ll talk more about this tonight. Perception. As a factor of the mind, the mind perceives
things. It perceives things all the time. Part of that process of perception is labeling – microphone,
carpet, clock, zabutons. Part of that is labeling. So part of what we can do is, one is applying the label
“breath” or “breath energy,” whatever you want to say, to the bodily experience. Not necessarily the in
and out breath, but start playing with applying the label “breath” to the bodily experience. Again, just
playing, experimenting, with doing that, experiencing all the parts of the body as breath energy. So, if
right now, or when you’re sitting in meditation, if the head was breath energy, what kind of breath
energy would that be? It might feel good, like it’s flowing, like it’s open. It might feel tight, like there’s
a constriction there, not such good breath energy. But you’re looking at it in terms of it being breath
energy, labeling it that way. If we keep that up, just keep labeling the bodily experience as breath – so,
these head sensations as breath – and you do that consistently, eventually the experience of the head
changes. You actually have a different experience of the head. You can do that with all the different
parts of the body, and see how that labeling changes the experience. The actual physical experience
changes with the mental label. Again, we can do that with the body as a whole. We can do that with the
total sense of the body.
There’s a lot to do with insight here. This is really optional; remember, everything I’ve said is optional.
Just take what you can. We might be sitting in meditation, opening up the practice a little more to
include more insight aspects, and there’s some pain in the body or constriction or discomfort. One feels
that. What would it be to let the breath go and just be with that experience – say I have some pain in my
back, some constriction, constricted energy in the back. And one is just really touching that experience,
but with the agenda of really allowing it, allowing it to be what it is. So it’s just unpleasant experience.
It’s just unpleasant experience in the moment. One is there with an awareness that’s very, very
allowing. The emphasis is on the allowing, total allowing for it to be what it is, unpleasant. In a way,
one is softening one’s reaction, one’s relationship with it. Because usually the relationship would be
one of, “It’s unpleasant, I want to get rid of it.” There’s a kind of normal reaction to push away what’s
unpleasant. One is just allowing, allowing, softening that relationship. What happens to it when we do
that? What happens to the unpleasant feeling? This is something to explore. Sometimes we’re aware of
an unpleasant feeling, a pain or a constriction, and you can actually see what’s going on in the mind.
Just start seeing it in a different way. We get so roped in to seeing it as pain and my pain and the whole
problem of it. What if we just saw it as a sensation that the mind is labeling “pain?” You see this
process going on, sensation, pain, labeling. One is seeing it with more space and more non-attachment.
We begin to see that process happening in the mind. What happens when we see it?
I’ll expand on this tonight, this whole nature of perception. In the Dharma we talk a lot about bare
attention and seeing things as they are, but it’s not quite as simple as it seems. Does what I see, even the
pleasantness or unpleasantness of what I see and what I experience, does that depend on how I look at
it? Does it depend on how I look at it? Is it a given, or does it depend on how I look at it?
If we go back, also, and speak about the hindrances, sometimes there’s restlessness in meditation, it
feels very agitated, or a little bit agitated. Sometimes it’s possible to have a sense of – or invite a sense
of more space around the restlessness. Here’s restlessness, I feel it in the body, I feel it in the mind.
Sometimes even opening the eyes and getting a sense of space, it’s almost like, is that space
restlessness? Do I perceive restlessness in the space, or do I perceive it here somewhere? Is there
something I can tune into, some part of the space, that doesn’t feel restless? Tuning the mind in there,
perceiving the stillness instead of the restlessness. What effect does that have? Sometimes it’s almost as
if, inside, one is diving underneath the agitation and perceiving stillness inside.
Sometimes there’s tiredness in the experience. Tiredness is a very, very interesting thing. It can feel so
overwhelming. What happens if you try to locate that tiredness in the body? Sometimes, sometimes, all
it comes down to is a kind of vague pressure behind the eyes, and we’re reacting to that. What happens
if we just feel that, as it is, and just relax around it? Relax our relationship to the unpleasant pressure.
What happens then to the perception of tiredness? Sometimes, again, there’s pain in the body, there’s
constriction. This is a really interesting one. You can actually experiment and play with chopping it up,
like dicing a carrot or dicing some tofu. The mind makes things solid. What happens if we just chop it
up in our mind, this sense of just stuck energy in the back or constriction or pain? Just playing with the
mind and playing with the perception. Again, if we speak about tiredness again, sometimes one can just
perceive brightness there behind the eyes, perceive like a sun there.
Sometimes, when one really develops – I’m talking about, for most people, in the future – you can
actually even perceive pleasantness, you can choose to perceive pleasantness where there is
unpleasantness. You can develop that as a skill. It’s quite mind-boggling, really. Now, we might hear
this, and especially when one has had some degree of exposure to sort of Buddhist teachings and
insight meditation, and think, “That doesn’t sound right at all. That doesn’t sound Buddhist. That
doesn’t sound proper. That doesn’t sound like what insight meditation is supposed to be.” I’ll pick up
on this tonight. There’s actually a tremendous depth of insight here around the nature of perception. It’s
one of the particular ways that samatha meditation feeds that insight.
Finally, I want to say a little bit about this word “steadiness” again. How much can steadiness permeate
the day today? Might be sitting and one just gets a bit restless or fed up, and just decides to leave the
meditation hall in the middle of the sitting. Please don’t. Please try and see how much steadiness can
kind of permeate the being. We can just give a real container to the experience. If we follow what
restlessness says to do – restlessness says, “Get up and go out and have a cup of tea.” Restlessness says,
when one is walking, “Stop and have a cup of tea.” Restlessness says do this, restlessness says do that.
What we’re doing is feeding restlessness. Basically, the current, the river of restlessness, gathers power
in our being and in our lives. It becomes a torrent that is, in the end, impossible to stop. If we can just
be still and be in the container, “This is a sitting and I’m just going to sit,” then we’re not feeding
restlessness, and what we’re actually doing is feeding samadhi. Samadhi, part of what it means, is
steadiness – steadiness of attention, of being, of intention. If we can just be steady with our practice,
staying steady with the walking, staying steady with the sitting, we’re expressing steadiness. That’s an
expression of samadhi, and there’s a way it kind of feeds the samadhi. That steadiness percolates down
into the being. It percolates into the cells, slowly, slowly. We start feeding a steadiness, a restfulness of
being instead of a restlessness. It’s a gradual process. The question is, which do we want to feed and
which are we feeding? So not to force oneself to be steady or still, but it’s almost like relaxing into it,
allowing into it. The second aspect of the word “steady,” and I mentioned this when I first brought it
up, is a sort of larger picture of what it means to be steady. Just in the days here, have you noticed, “I
love Gaia House, I love being here, I love being on retreat, I love this practice. I love samatha, sign me
up for the next one.” And then a little time goes by and it’s, “I hate Gaia House...” [laughter] “I hate
this practice. I wish he would shut up.” [laughter] Who knows what this afternoon is going to be like?
This steadiness, it’s just stepping back and expecting the waves. It’s okay, it’s really okay. Not buying
into them so much. That quality, too, begins to percolate down into the being. It’s such a treasure, and
such a resource. Not easy, but to feed that, to nourish that.
Two evenings ago, I spoke, as part of the talk, about the inner critic. I’m quite aware, and you are, too,
that just because one devoted a quarter of a talk to it one evening doesn’t mean that it’s going to
disappear. So oftentimes that’s a structure that’s been around a long, long time. Decades, maybe. A
retreat like this can bring it up and sometimes certain talks can bring it up. We can find the inner critic
very alive, very well, very healthy, doing its job with impeccable aplomb, and it’s really there. I know
that, for some of you, with the talk last night, it brought it up. I know that for some of you just engaging
in this kind of practice brings it up. Perhaps some of what I say tonight, again, will meet that place, or it
will be around. Can that just be okay? Can it just be okay that it’s around? There it is, doing its thing,
doing its thing very well, and it’s just part of what’s going on. It’s just okay that it’s there. Perhaps
another part of the being is listening, and is perhaps hearing some truth in what’s being said. And it’s
just okay. It’s just okay that the inner critic is there. Some part is maybe listening and shelving pieces
for later. Some of what I say tonight is not in the realm of experience of actually anyone who is
listening, and that’s okay. I’m putting it out there partly because I want people who are interested to
know what’s available. I think that’s important. And partly because there’s a thread of one insight – one
insight that has a thread from the most mundane, everyday, obvious thing, all the way to final
liberation. I want to draw that thread out.
What I actually want to talk about tonight is the relationship of samatha and insight, the relationship of
concentration and insight. Now, usually, or for the most part, what we might hear about this
relationship is that – well, the most common thing that we hear about this relationship is that
concentration, samatha, calming the mind, is a kind of preparation for insight. So you spend some time,
a little time, or a lot of time, calming the mind, concentrating the mind, and then you take that mind
that’s more calm, that’s more clear because of that calmness and that concentration, and you start
applying it to insight meditation, applying it to trying to notice everything that’s going on in one’s life
and experience and understand that experience. The calmness and the clarity are what prepares and
enables the insight. That’s absolutely true, and it’s fine, no problem with that. But there’s actually
much, much more to it than that. This is what I want to go into. Not only is it a preparation, but one
finds that a mind of calm, a mind of some degree of samadhi, is like the best soil for the seeds of
insight to take root in. Some of you have been on retreat before, and you’re on retreat and you notice –
you have some insight about a personal difficulty, a personal pattern, a personality pattern, or a more
impersonal insight like impermanence of whatever. And it seems so clear: “Got it. I’ve got it now.” And
then the retreat ends, and one goes home, and sometimes it stays, but sometimes it just – “What
happened to that insight?” We seem to have lost access to it, or it has lost its power to actually feel like
it changes our life in any way. One of the incredibly important and potent things about samadhi practice
is that it nourishes the soil, in a way, so that seed of insight can really grow and take root really deeply
in the being, in a way that insights really begin to change the heart and the life of a person. And those
insights stay. They stay in a way that’s accessible.
Some of the relationship between concentration and insight I’ve already touched on, so I’ll just briefly
go through them again.
1) Confidence. We talked about that at some point, that slowly, slowly with samadhi, we get a sense of
confidence in ourselves, our capacity to be happy and feel well, and a confidence in our practice. That
comes slowly. That’s an indispensable part of insight: I know that I can be happy without whatever.
2) As I also said before, it gives us leverage to let go of what is perhaps not that helpful to be attached
to. There’s a real sense that we have some place from which we can kind of pry open or pry loose many
of our attachments. Really, really important.
3) Faith comes. I mentioned that last night. Slowly, slowly, faith comes – in the teachings, in the path –
that they really do lead where they’re supposed to lead. A juice comes into the practice, a sense of well-
being that’s incredibly nourishing for the journey.
4) Over time, with samadhi practice, the mind also loses its infatuation with what’s called “papanca,”
this kind of addiction to complicating everything and building huge difficulties and complications
around things. The mind just begins to be less and less interested and infatuated with that process.
5) More contentment comes into the life. All this is part of what I would call a larger aspect of insight –
insight being that which frees.
6) More able and willing to explore renunciation and the impacts that has, as I touched in the opening
talk, on climate change, et cetera, and all that.
7) There’s an easier understanding of all this Buddhist teaching about not-self, anatta, which can seem
so mysterious. That begins to become clear through the samatha practice itself. We begin to experience
times, moments, periods, where the self is very much in abeyance, very much less built-up and less
strong. This is something I’m going to come back to in this talk.
8) The mind also gets very malleable over time. We’re able to use the mind in a lot of different creative
ways, particularly in meditation. We talk about “insight meditation,” but it’s actually not one technique
– it’s a whole range of approaches. The mind just gets able to approach in different ways, and to
maneuver in different ways, to be used in different ways.
9) And, this I’ll also go into, slowly, slowly, as the samadhi deepens, we actually – something in the
being is more open to hearing about what the Buddha talked about when he talked about cessation, and
cessation of the world, or going beyond the world, which can sound so abstract and unappealing.
There’s something in there that we’re more able to hear that.
What I mostly want to explore tonight, though – that was sort of a lot of review. What I mostly want to
explore tonight is what we touched on this morning: the nature of perception. There’s something about
perception and samadhi which is really, really key, and understanding the way the mind, first of all,
builds problems. We build problems, and following that, even more thoroughly, more deeply, we
actually build everything. I’m going to go into this. There’s something about samadhi and
understanding this building process. When the Buddha was enlightened, he uttered a spontaneous poem
– I can’t remember exactly but he says, “House builder, you’ve been seen.” Some of you will
recognize, “House builder, you’ve been seen. Your ridgepole has been shattered. Your rafters
scattered,” or something. He’s seen completely through this building process, and that’s how he
described his awakening – I understand all this building that we human beings do. I understand it in a
way that I can actually put it down. So that’s this thread of insight that I was talking about. It goes from
the most obvious, mundane, all the way to awakening. It’s one thread.
So, we’re in our day, wherever we are. We find ourselves in a bad mood, or we are anywhere – here on
a meditation retreat, or anywhere – and there’s physical pain, arising from whatever cause. Or we’re
perceiving another person, someone we know or someone we don’t know, and we’re perceiving them
in a – “They’re a really terrible person. They’re really stupid. They’re really this or that.” We’re
perceiving them in a certain way. The Dharma question, “How am I compounding that perception?”,
ends up being one of the deepest Dharma questions. How am I compounding, first of all this suffering,
but secondly this perception? If I have a pain in the body, there’s a number of Dharma questions that
are really important. The first one is more basic, it’s “am I aware of it?” I’m in a bad mood, do I know
I’m in a bad mood? Or am I just kind of subjecting those around me to it and myself to it? Am I aware
of it? Can I be with it? That’s part of the first Dharma question. “Am I aware of it and can I open to it?”
But the second Dharma question, “How am I compounding it?” Or, better put, “How is the mind
compounding it? How is the mind building it and adding to it?” This question, pursued, takes one all
the way to complete awakening. That’s the question that needs to be answered.
So when we come to samatha – some of you are beginning to get an inkling of this already – we see
that in the samatha process what the mind is doing is not building, or it’s building less. It’s building less
problem. It’s building less, generally. People have pointed this out in groups – there’s something
authentic about that. When we build things up, there’s something a little inauthentic about that. I’m sort
of building up some view or perception of another person or perception of myself or perception of a
situation. It’s actually inauthentic. There’s something very authentic about not building, not engaging in
that process. You could say samatha is an act of not building, or the nonaction of building. We’re in a
relationship with a partner, friend, spouse, mother, child, whatever, and we blow up about something.
How often, afterwards – we get in such a tangle with the person, and in oneself in relation to what’s
going on – and then a little time goes by and afterwards you think, “Was that even really necessary,
what just happened between us? The way I got my nickers in a twist about all that? Was that even really
real?” Do you ever have that experience?
Some years ago, a work retreatant was describing a difficulty. I can’t actually remember what it was
precisely, but a difficulty. There was a lot of stuff, a lot of agitation around the difficulty. She would
also experience periods of calm. So I suggested to her at one time, “When there’s the calmness, when
there’s relative samatha there, how about dropping in some thoughts about the difficulty? Just
deliberately bringing up and dropping it in like little pebbles into this pond of calm, and seeing what
happens. And perhaps there can be some clarity from the calmness to seeing one’s way in this
difficulty.” But what happened was she came back and said, “When I thought about it, when I dropped
it in, nothing happened.” Nothing happened. Dropped the pebble in, hardly any ripples. Certainly no
big tsunami. What’s going on here? Is there something that’s not present in a state of samatha which
actually is needed to build a problem and build some agitation? Unless we go in and out of that
experience and see that over and over, it will just remain theory. We need to see it and feel it for
ourselves and go, “Okay, something is going on here.” People have reported in the groups that they’re
beginning to get a sense that the samatha is not a denial of our emotions. It’s not a turning away from or
running away from. Someone was saying, beginning to get a glimpse, “Oh, this emotional difficulty –
it’s that I’m just not feeding it somehow with my attention when I’m with the samatha.” It’s a different
understanding of what’s going on. It’s not clear at first. It takes time for this to reveal itself, to become
clear.
As the samatha deepens, as the samadhi deepens, I think I mentioned this, the sense of the self gets
weaker. The self – we take it so for granted, “This is my self, and this is who I am, this is my story.” As
one goes more and more into samadhi, we realize that whole structure of self just quietens. The house
gets smaller, less built up. We’re not building up the self and the self definition. The whole big story
and problem of the self is not being built up so much, as the samadhi deepens. That’s something that’s
actually happening as the samadhi deepens. Another thing that’s happening is that, you could say, the
world is not so built up. There’s a kind of fading of what we might call the world. “The world”
meaning the world of our experience, this – everything that we see, our emotions, inner and outer world
actually gets quieter. The self and the world begin to fade a little bit. That’s an inherent factor of
samadhi; it’s one way of describing what samadhi is, in fact. And then there’s a lot of insight in this, as
this happens, to whatever degree – even just a little bit, or a lot, or a tremendous amount, whatever.
Who am I when I’m not spinning the story? Who am I then? Who am I when I’m not thinking, when it
goes that deep? Who am I when even the body has dissolved? I tend to identify with this body, and this
story, and with my emotional content and my thoughts, but who am I when all that gets quiet, and then
it comes back, and then it gets quiet, and then it comes back, and it gets quiet? What’s real? Who is the
real me – the quiet one or the noisy one?
People have touched on this, too: even as the self gets a little bit quieter, and we jettison a little bit of
our story structure and the kind of things that define us, there can be fear there. We’re losing our
familiar bearings, our familiar scaffolding which holds our sense of identity and reality in place. There
can be fear there. I said at one point that it’s a kind of acquired taste. One really gets to feel comfortable
and reassured and safe and trusting in this fading. That’s gradual. One can go at the pace that one wants
and ease into it and really be okay with that. But fear is pretty common as part of that process. We need
to understand this – at a certain point there’s more to samadhi than the nice feeling and feeling a bit
calm, which is great and really nourishing and I’ve been emphasizing that, but we need to understand
something much deeper that has to do with insight. We need to understand this connection. Sometimes
the self is like this, big and noisy and “aaah,” a raging ogre of whatever. And sometimes the self is very,
very refined, and very quiet, or just normal, and sometimes it’s barely there at all – and also the world,
the world of our experience. We need to understand this, understand the building process of what the
Buddha calls “dependent origination.” That’s wrapped up with our experience and understanding of
samatha.
When the Buddha described the jhanas – I talked about the jhanas last night – he used a very, at first it’s
a very odd-sounding phrase, but he said, “These are perception attainments.” At first that sounds like,
“Why is he calling it that? Why doesn’t he call it capacities of consciousness or far-out states that you
can get into?” He’s very, again, very precise – perception attainments. This is what I want to really
explore in the talk. Going back to a little bit what I said last night with the jhanas, the first jhana – and
even this comfortable feeling we’re beginning to have, suffusing and spreading that comfortable feeling
in the body – the usual sense of the body that we have, the usual experience of the body, which is very
sharply defined, all begins to get a little more amorphous, a little more open, fluid, less defined. The
experience of the body comes to be this pleasant feeling. My perception of the body becomes a pleasant
feeling. As the jhanas deepen, my perception of the body becomes happiness. It’s almost as if the body
has become happiness, and then the body has become peacefulness, and the body has become stillness.
They’re increasingly refined perceptions of the body. Again, this actually takes quite a lot of doing it to
see what’s going on – it’s not an obvious way of looking at it at first. This is, again, one of the strokes
of genius of the Buddha; sometimes it’s just completely unbelievable, radically different insight.
Very briefly – the fourth jhana is actually not the end of the story. There are four more, I’ll very briefly
describe. Fourth jhana, nothing but stillness there. The body is kind of dissolved in the stillness. Very,
very refined sense of the body. That also can begin to get even more refined, until all that’s left is space.
There’s no perception of solidity anywhere – not here or out there. Even if one has one’s eyes open,
does it with eyes open, it’s like you’re not really perceiving any solidity or forms anywhere. It’s called
“the realm of infinite space.” That’s really all there is – one is kind of absorbed and dissolved in that
infinite space. Tremendous sense of freedom in it, and a very mystical sense of oneness. Just going to
go very briefly through these. That deepens again, and one passes beyond the space. All there is is an
infinitely pervading consciousness. So some of this is really on the edge of what we, without a lot of
meditation experience, what one might be able to imagine. There’s nothing but consciousness. Nothing
but conscious knowing. An incredibly beautiful, mystical experience. Even that deepens, the
consciousness fades, and there’s nothing but a sense of nothingness. One is just – it’s the realm of
nothingness. One is just totally struck and kind of dissolved in nothingness. That’s the seventh one.
Even that one – it goes beyond even that, and enters the realm of what’s called “neither perception nor
non-perception.” This is really on the edge of language. When there’s nothing, the mind is still
perceiving a sense of nothing. It’s very extremely refined, extremely subtle. There’s not even a sense of
perceiving movements of mind or any factors of mind or anything like that. Then one’s gone to the
edge of perception; it’s like the mind isn’t making anything or nothing at that point, but one still – it’s
almost just the most possible refined thing, and one is, in a way, struck by this inability of the mind to
determine if it’s a perception or not a perception. Incredibly refined.
Just briefly as well – in the fifth jhana, there’s a really mystical sense of oneness. There’s a kind of – all
the physicality in the universe is kind of one substance, one really sees that in one’s heart in a very deep
way. In the sixth jhana, infinite consciousness, it’s all one mind. So all this, all this stuff, is just the play
of one mind. That becomes a very real, almost palpable perception. These are, if one repeats them,
incredibly, deeply transforming, long-term.
Now, all samadhi, and all jhanas – whether it’s jhana or not, all samadhi is a kind of relief and release.
When there’s samadhi, we’ve actually been released from something. There’s a kind of relief at that
release. There’s a relief, even if one’s a little bit scared at first, one gets used to it, and there’s a relief at
letting go of the story. There’s a relief at letting go of the agitation. There’s a relief at letting go of the
hindrances. When one has completely let go of the hindrances, that’s also the first jhana, but the
Buddha also talked about them as stages of release and relief. That’s true of even non-jhanic samadhi.
There’s a spectrum here: relief and release, and with that, a sense of freedom. So again this isn’t
something one picks up on at first, but in a state of calm, even on this retreat when it feels calm, just
having a look sometimes – is there not also a little bit of a sense of freedom there? One’s actually been
freed from something, released from something. If we talk about the jhanas, in each state, something
fades from awareness. So the hindrances fade first, and in the second jhana thought fades. In the third
jhana, rapture fades. Before, even pre-jhanic, like I said, the story has begun to fade, emotional
agitation has begun to fade. There’s just a kind of gentle continuum of things fading. Once you’ve got
to the fifth jhana, the infinite space, what’s faded is materiality, solidity, form. And one keeps going
until, in the nothingness for instance, thingness – the thingness of things – has faded from experience.
One no longer is perceiving things. One no longer is in a world of things. That’s gone. Which is
wonderful. But there’s also insight there. Again, please see this all as a continuum. I am talking about
the jhanic level of things, but it’s also operating just at a level of more relative, everyday calm. There’s
insight here, and a kind of freedom that happens afterwards, with time, that comes from that insight.
One begins to see, on a retreat like this, or in one’s practice, hindrances. And then they go, and there’s
calmness. Then there’s hindrances, then there’s calmness. One learns, over time, somehow, they’re not
that believable. They’re not kind of, somehow, that real. One begins to get a sense, for instance, that
that negative emotion, that pain in the body, even, that doesn’t actually have to be there. One is moving
in and out of a negative agitation, say, or hindrance, or whatever, or physical pain. Moving in and out,
an insight begins to draw out that that doesn’t have to be there. It doesn’t have to be there. It’s not
actually a given. It’s not something that’s an independent reality. One begins to get a sense of how the
mind is fabricating it. The mind is fabricating emotional difficulty, hindrances, and even physical pain.
How it’s actually fabricating, as one goes deeper and deeper into this, solidity, thingness, et cetera. All
of that. One begins to get a sense that it’s actually fabricated. Is this making sense?
There are also, with samatha – and I’m not sure, you might have even noticed a little bit so far – but
certainly as one goes into the jhanas, et cetera, there are kind of after-images of jhanic states,
sometimes. Let’s take the peacefulness of the third jhana, or it could be just the calmness that one’s in
now. One goes into that state, and one emerges, and then one goes for a walk or a cup of tea or a
wander on the front lawn or whatever it is. Sometimes it seems as if that peacefulness is imbued in the
universe. It’s almost as if the actual reality of the universe is peacefulness. It washes over everything.
Everything speaks of peacefulness – I think I said that last night. One goes in and out of this, in and
out, in and out, in and out, and soon – or at some point – our notions of reality begin to get questioned.
How is the world? Is it peaceful or is it not? What is the reality here? Similarly, let’s say, taking it even
deeper, the space – one goes in and out of perceiving a sense of solidity and not perceiving a sense of
solidity so much that it undermines one’s given and unquestioned assumption in the solidity of things.
One has gone in and our so much that that perception begins to be undermined. In Dharma language we
say the perception is “empty.” It’s not a real thing. It’s empty. I perceive the solidity, and of course it’s
real on one level, but one begins to see what the mind is giving to experience. This takes time. It takes a
lot of doing samadhi and other practices and going in and out.
Please remember, it’s one thread of insight I’m talking about. I’m ping-ponging from different levels
and depths but I’m talking about one thread, from the everyday, most common, all the way to the
deepest. It takes time to absorb this. It takes time to realize its significance as well. At first it seems
like, “Okay, sure.” And I’m not sure even now as you’re listening, maybe you’re, “Yeah, I can kind of
see that, okay.” I really don’t know. But maybe. And it would certainly be possible that a person would
listen to this that way. It takes time to realize that this is of massive, massive, massive significance.
There was another work retreatant a while ago. She was doing some samatha practice as part of her
work retreat, and she was beginning to experience some well-being in the body, and being able to
spread that, et cetera. She sat a group weekend retreat, and she was sitting, and there was leg pain. She
got into some real knee pain or in her hip or something. They were doing a different kind of practice,
and suddenly in the middle of sitting she remembered what she’d been doing with the well-being and
spreading it. She just started to remember the well-being – just to remember it – and then the leg pain
went. What replaced it was a sense of well-being. She was enjoying that. But then she thought, “Am I
cheating?” “I’m not being with what is,” is what she came and told me. This notion of being with what
is, being with things as they are, is such a central one in the Dharma, but as I’m sure I’ve said already
on this retreat, there’s more to it than that. There’s much more than meets the eye here. So she could
have said, “Well, you know, things are impermanent.” That’s what we hear all the time, isn’t it? Things
change, so there was leg pain and then it changed, and then I had an insight into impermanence; I saw
that things change. But actually something else was going on, and it was of, I would say, a much deeper
potential insight than the insight into change. Sure, things change, and it’s important to see that. It’s a
very important level of insight meditation. But the more important insight is that our perceptions are
what the Buddha calls “dependent arisings.” What we perceive in the body, out there, in our minds, in
so-called reality – depends on our mind state. It depends on factors in the mind. That’s actually a
potentially extremely deep insight, and in a way a lot more significant than the insight into change,
which is still important of course. So any thing, external or internal, any pain even – physical, mental,
emotional, whatever it is – the Tibetans have a way of saying that emptiness means it doesn’t exist
from its own side. It takes the mind to kind of see it one way or another. It doesn’t exist from its own
side. It’s empty. The perception is empty. We talked about this, this work retreatant and myself, and she
was kind of like, “Woah. I don’t know if I’m ready for that.” And it was interesting, and I probably just
left it or whatever. She was here for quite a while. It was interesting just to notice how, over time, she
would forget that. I would prod her a little bit, or she would remember by herself, and she would forget
it again. She would forget its significance, and remember, and forget. Her initial reaction was, “I don’t
know if I’m ready to go near that kind of questioning of reality.” But even then it was like – this
forgetting, my point is that it actually takes time. It may sound like it’s just too weird or something. It
takes a lot of time to absorb this and to realize its significance.
So at first, samatha – concentration, calmness, and vipassana – insight meditation, seem like two
different things. I know for some of you who have done insight meditation before, you come on a
retreat like this and one thinks, “Wow, I’m really doing something different now.” As it goes deeper, we
begin to see that the samatha feeds the vipassana. The samatha feeds the insight, and the insight
actually feeds the calmness, feeds the concentration. They’re mutually reinforcing, and actually they
begin to blend into each other. They only seem different at first. One of the ways I particularly like to
sort of describe insight meditation is that what insight meditation is is developing ways of looking that
bring letting go, or developing ways of letting go, or developing ways of looking that bring freedom.
To me that’s what insight meditation is, more than a kind of “just being” with what is, although of
course that can be part of it.
This morning one of the things I dropped out there was, “Here’s some unpleasantness. Here’s some
pain in the body, some pain. What happens if I notice my reaction to it and I begin to work with just
relaxing that aversion?” When there’s unpleasantness, there’s going to be aversion. What happens when
I relax that aversion? One of the things that happens is the suffering begins to drain out of the
experience. But another thing that begins to happen is the mind calms down. Samatha comes. Another
thing that’s part of that samatha, wrapped up in that samatha, that can happen, is the unpleasantness
begins to fade. The actual unpleasantness begins to get less unpleasant. If I take as one of my insight
meditations or ways of looking – I’m just contemplating impermanence, I’m looking and seeing
change, over and over, change, change, change. I’m only interested in seeing change. That, too, should
and does lead to samatha. There’s a calming of the mind when one does that. There is a letting go, and
correspondingly, there’s a kind of quietening of what was difficult, a change in the perception. Another
possibility is – I’m running through these very quickly and just throwing out possibilities, but – another
one is regarding things as not me or mine. They’re not my self. So something comes up and – someone
was saying in an interview today, “Oh, it’s just that character again. It’s just that voice in my head. It’s
like seeing it’s not me, it’s not mine.” Well, you can do that with everything. You can do that with body
sensations, thoughts, mind states, moods, the whole spectrum of experience – it’s just “not me, not
mine,” it’s something that’s passing through or happening. Again, as one does that, there’s a calming
and a change in the perception of things. They actually begin to fade a little bit.
So if we think about what is it that builds experience, and particularly builds suffering, well, let’s go
back to a more – as I said, ping-ponging different levels now – let’s go back to a more mundane level.
How often do I rope my story in or start cycling my story, the story of my life and my future and my
past, in a way that’s actually compounding and building suffering? How often does that happen? Are
you familiar with doing that? Or identification. It’s like, when I – “This is a leg pain and it’s my leg
pain, and I bet no one else has leg pain here.” Somehow the self is identified with it, and that process of
identification builds. It builds the experience and it builds the suffering. Again, if I’m reacting to
something, if I’m aversive to what’s unpleasant, it’s building the experience and building the suffering.
And these kind of factors can be woven so subtly – in fact, they are woven so subtly – in our attention.
Sometimes we can feel, “I’m just being mindful of this pain. I’m just being with my emotion of grief.
I’m just being with my fear.” But there’s factors that are hidden, wrapped up in attention, that are
actually exacerbating, compounding, building the thing. One of the agendas of insight meditation is to
begin seeing what they are, and being able to let go of them.
I threw out another funny one this morning. I don’t know if anyone picked it up or not. This business of
dicing tofu and carrots. Did anyone try that? Okay. You may have found – I don’t know – you may
have found it actually had quite an impact. I don’t know. Of course, one could be coming out of
aversion, but the mind – one begins to see, if I dice it up in the mind, the solidity, the sense of this pain
being lodged in the shoulder or whatever it is, it can actually just free up and suddenly it’s not there or
it just dissolves a little bit. What’s happening? The mind is making something solid. The mind is
glomming something together; it’s gluing something together. That’s one way of defining what a mind
is – minds are what glom things together. That’s what minds do. The thing is, we don’t realize it. We
think the mind is here receiving experience. The mind is actually fabricating, this is the Buddha’s
words, 'fabricating' experience and 'concocting' experience – by glomming things together. [laughter]
I’m not sure why it’s funny, but anyway. It’s not an English word [glomming]? Gluing things together,
sticking things together, fabricating things, building things, sticking bits of plasticine. That’s what –
glomming is really a plasticine word. Do you have plasticine? Hard word. Okay. Sticking bits of
plasticine together, that’s what the mind does. We take what it then perceives as a reality. Inner or
outer, we take it as a reality. One can see, as one does that, dices things up, samadhi can come. And
again the perception changes. Or things I’ve thrown out, again, in the retreat – just staying with the
pleasant, staying with the pleasant, not getting pulled in with the attention to the unpleasant. Here’s
another one, can’t actually remember if I said it: you’ve got an area where it’s either unpleasant or
actually you’re not really sure what it is but something is going on there in the body. Something is
going on, and you’re kind of looking – someone actually shared this in a group, something is going on,
you’re looking at it. Is it pleasant or unpleasant? And in a way, one way of seeing that is that there’s
different frequencies going on at the same time. There’s a kind of pleasant frequency and an
unpleasant, and they’re kind of mixed. One can develop the skill, develop the art, of fine tuning the
radio tuner, and tuning in on the pleasant. What happens? This perception that was sitting on the fence
of pleasant or unpleasant actually goes into the pleasant. Or, sometimes, if you really develop this skill,
even when it’s unpleasant you can begin to see something as pleasant. There’s something about
attention and perception, that actually attention is building things. The mind attending to things is
actually gluing, glomming, things together.
If – just briefly – if one holds that reflection in one’s mind, over and over, and just keeps looking at
things, and kind of saying, “You’re glommed together. You’re glommed together. You don’t really –
you’re something that my mind is putting together.” Or, you could shorthand that and just say, “You’re
empty. You’re empty. You’re empty.” That’s an insight way of working. It’s a very deep insight way of
working. What happens is the mind ends up perceiving no thing, nothing. It ends up in the 7th jhana.
One could go further and say, “It’s just a perception.” Even the perception of nothingness is just a
perception. And one will, again, using an insight way of working, end up in neither perception nor non-
perception. Samatha feeds insight, and insight feeds samatha. They’re actually inextricably linked,
inextricably woven together.
So the Buddha has this word “Nibbana.” In Sanskrit, “Nirvana.” He said that’s the goal of the path,
that’s why we’re practicing – the end of suffering. One of his descriptions of Nibbana is
“sabbasankhara-samatha”, which the translation means “all fabricated things calmed.” The calming, the
quieting, of all fabricated things. In a way – again, it takes a lot of explaining, pointing at a direction
here that it takes a lot of samatha to actually begin to see this – there’s something that starts with just
coming back to the breath, letting go of the story, letting go. One’s actually fabricating less, in a process
that just – fabricating less, fabricating less – things get quieter and quieter, and as we go through the
jhanas, et cetera, things and the world and the self are getting quieter and quieter, all the way to the
neither perception nor non-perception, and then even more, to sabbasankhara-samatha, to Nibbana, to
what the Buddha calls the cessation of perception. He says that dimension should be known, where
vision stops, the perception of form fades, hearing stops. Everything of our six senses – internal mental
perceptions as well – fades, and one is not fabricating any perceptions anymore. He calls this Nibbana,
or the Deathless, the Unconditioned, the Unfabricated. And he says, “There, I declare, is no coming, no
going, no stopping, no passing away, and no arising. It is not established. It is without foundation. It
continues not; it doesn’t even exist in time. It has no object. It is without support. This indeed is the end
of suffering.” One has gone completely beyond the realm of what the conventional mind can know, to
the Unfabricated, or, you could say, the mind is not fabricating – and at that point it’s not even
fabricating itself, but mind is also something fabricated. Sometimes the Buddha described this as
“awareness without an object,” that awareness has gone beyond kind of seeing anything at all or
making any object at all, even an object of nothing or nothingness. The Buddha says this is complete
release, the awareness has been completely released from having to grasp on or hold onto objects.
Building turns out to be absolutely inherent, an inherent part of perception. It’s inherent in perception.
There’s something incredibly radical here. When the Buddha had his awakening, it was something so
radical, what he awoke to and what we can awaken to as human beings – there are, in a way, there are
worlds of experience, and one begins to see, “I can fabricate or I do fabricate worlds. I can fabricate a
nightmare world. I can involve my story and my pain and the way I see things and build that up. I
fabricate a world that is a nightmare. I can fabricate the everyday, conventional world that everyone
would agree on. And I can fabricate less and less.” In a way, the jhanas are still fabricated, but they’re
less fabricated. In a way, the jhanas and these realms of infinite space, et cetera, are fabricated worlds,
but they’re less fabricated. One can go beyond fabrication. One sees that even space and time, in the
sense of the past and the future and even the present moment – which gets so much weight in spiritual
teachings – even the present moment is something fabricated, the sense of a now, the present moment.
Things that we take so for granted, space and time – what more fundamental things can there be to our
experience? We begin to see that those, too, are fabricated.
So, yes, we enjoy our calmness and our sense of well-being, whatever that is and however that deepens.
But there’s something much more significant, and that’s that we need to understand, slowly, slowly, we
need to understand our deep meditation experiences. If we have an experience of well-being or bliss or
joy or oneness, there’s something that needs to be understood there. Otherwise we’re not milking it to
the full. It can be just an experience that the mind wants to get back, and we haven’t understood
something there. The mind might want to get it back and doesn’t know how to get it back, because it
hasn’t understood this process. So at first, the samatha, to whatever degree and including the jhana, at
first it seems like one is really fabricating a lot – one is flapping and really putting in the effort in
meditation, really huffing and puffing, and then you’ve got this calm and comfortable feeling, and
you’re holding it there and holding it there. It’s a lot of fabrication, a lot of work. And eventually it
moves to what I was talking about last night, where it’s actually – they’re just kind of there, these states
of calmness, deeper and deeper. And they’re kind of frequencies that exist all the time. That’s the sense
of them. And you can just tune in. Then in the middle sort of period they feel like they’re unfabricated;
they feel like you’re tuning in to different aspects of reality. And in the third sort of spiraling of that, or
the other level of the spiral as it comes back, is that then you actually understand how they’re
fabricated, even when they appear to be just tuning the dial; it’s a much more subtle and deep
understanding.
We can feel sometimes in meditation, “I’m just being. I’m not going to do anything. I don’t like doing
anything in meditation. I like just being.” And that’s a very valid and very beautiful way of practicing.
But it turns out, at a whole other deep level, to be a bit of a myth. Any moment of experience involves
some doing. It still could be a very useful kind of strategy at times, to just drop all the doing, and just
be. But it turns out that it’s a bit of a myth, or a lot of myth, actually. What it turns out is that the mind
produces experiences that it then consumes. It produces experiences that it then consumes, and
produces and consumes, and produces and consumes, and produces and consumes. It just does that
nonstop. It does that nonstop. And then the Buddha comes along and says, first of all, do you know
that’s going on? And second of all, is that really that nice? Is that really what we want to be doing –
producing and consuming? Or is there something actually a bit burdensome about always producing
and consuming experiences, even lovely experiences? What might happen if the mind stopped doing
that? What would that be? That takes a lot of skill, and that’s a whole spectrum that I’ve been talking
about. But when we talk about emptiness in the Dharma, emptiness is a very – there’s a lot of different
levels or depths to which one can understand that. But there’s something about the samatha, and kind of
going deep, and for some people who want to, going deep in this particular avenue, that actually
unfolds a very deep understanding of emptiness, a very deep understanding of this fabrication process.
And it’s an understanding that can really be lived. It’s really livable.
So sometimes, you know, we might read or hear about or read a text and it talks about this
Unfabricated, this Unconditioned, this passing beyond the world, this cessation of perception. And it
sounds horrific. It sounds like completely bleak. “Why would anyone want to get involved in that, for
heaven’s sake?” Something about the samatha, again, is that it’s progressive unfabricating. One sees,
“Oh, it’s nice not to fabricate a little bit. If I can fabricate a bit less, that’s even nicer. And that’s even
nicer, and that’s even nicer.” It kind of allows that movement towards what the Buddha’s calling
Nibbana or the Deathless. It allows that to be not horrific, not frightening for the mind. It’s okay at a
very, very deep level, that the world of our experience is actually empty. It’s really okay. The Buddha
said an arahant, a completely enlightened being – one of his definitions is “someone who has
understood perception.” Someone who has understood perception. It doesn’t sound that glamorous, or
sexy, but that’s how he put it sometimes. And understood the cessation of perception going beyond
time, beyond space, beyond the now, beyond a notion of awareness. So there’s something in all this that
has very, very deeply to do with truth, to do with fundamental notions of reality and what is true. What
is real? What is real? In the Dharma, the primary question is what is leading to suffering and what’s
not. But wrapped up with that question is “what is actually real?” What is really real? What is reality?
Am I suffering over something that’s not real? That’s what emptiness means; that’s the point of
emptiness, to realize that something I may be suffering over is not as real as it might seem. What is
real, and what is not fabricated? What is not concocted, not glommed together, not built? Is there even
something that’s not fabricated? For some people, for some people, these are going to be burning
questions; passionately alive, deep, driving questions in one’s life. They’re fundamental to our
existence as human beings. What is actually real?
Going back to that thing – is samatha escapism? Well, because of everything I’ve said, in a way, it’s the
opposite. It’s a journey towards what’s actually real, and more and more real, you could say – a letting
go, progressively, of what’s less real, or what’s more fabricated, more huffed and puffed and built up.
This understanding of the Buddha, it points to something totally radical. It’s totally radical. It turns our
notions of everything upside-down. The Dharma stands everything on its head. The Buddha says it’s
not that the world doesn’t exist, and it’s not that it exists. It’s what he calls the middle way. There’s
something very, very subtle to understand here about how things dependently arise, how they are
fabricated. In this understanding is freedom. It’s in that understanding that freedom comes. In a way,
you could say it’s one insight, from our most everyday – we just had an argument with our friend, with
our spouse, with our partner, with our boss – there’s an insight at that level, and a thread running all the
way to awakening, to Nibbana.
There’s a beautiful poem by Rumi, just to finish, called “Wean Yourself.” Is that an American word?
“Wean Yourself.” Beautiful, listen: “Little by little, wean yourself. This is the gist of what I have to say.
From an embryo whose nourishment comes in the blood, move to an infant drinking milk, to a child on
solid food, to a searcher after wisdom, to a hunter of more invisible game. Think how it is to have a
conversation with an embryo. You might say, ‘The world outside is vast and intricate. There are wheat
fields, and mountain passes, and orchards in bloom. At night, there are millions of galaxies, and in
sunlight the beauty of friends dancing at a wedding.’ You ask the embryo why he or she stays cooped
up in the dark with eyes closed.” Listen to the answer; this is the embryo talking. “There is no other
world. I only know what I’ve experienced. You must be hallucinating.” There’s something in the
samatha process, very deeply, that weans us. We wean ourselves off our attachments. We wean
ourselves off attachments progressively off the samatha itself. We pass beyond to a hunter of more
invisible game. In that is indescribable freedom that is available to us as human beings.