Notes on the Hobby King Orange Receiver

OrangeRx R610 Spektrum DSM2 6Ch 2.4Ghz Receiver (w/ Sat Port)
Hobby King
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11965__OrangeRx_R610_Spektrum_DSM2_6Ch_2_4Ghz_Receiver_w_Sat_Port_.html

Compatible with all Spektrum DSM2 Air transmitters.

The OrangeRx will work with ANY Aircraft Spektrum DSM2 2.4Ghz transmitter

#337: When will Hobby King to start making DSMX compatible Orange Rx receivers?

OrangeRx receivers are built using original components and MCUs and with state of the art SMT automation
to ensure a quality product each and every time.
All OrangeRx receivers are QC tested before leaving the factory.
Great for small planes, helis, parkflyers or even medium sized sport planes.
Key features.

Weight
Case Removed 3.7g
Case Installed 9.8 grams
Size
Case Removed 19.5mm x 30mm x 10mm
Case Installed 43.0mm x 22mm x 13mm

Channels = 6
Throttle / Aileron / Elevator / Rudder / Gear / Aux1

Input Voltage
Minimum 3.7vdc
Maximum 9.6vdc

Power for the Rx comes directly from the ESC or the SBEC

ESC
A regulator in the ESC, (BEC circuit) drops the voltage to around 5.1V for the
receiver and servos
SBEC
HobbyKing Turnigy 5A SBEC – Interference Free
Supply a constant 5A.
2 - 7 Cell Lipoly pack
Supplies a constant 5 or 6v to Rx

Satellite port included. (Increased redundancy and link strength)

Two CYP chips used. Making it a true outdoor receiver system.
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Warranty.
12 Month replacement guarantee!

Compatibility
Compatible with DSM2 1024/2048 aircraft radio and module systems.
AR6100
AR6200
Included.
OrangeRx R610 DSM2 Compatible receiver
Short 29mm antennas for mounting in almost any location.

OrangeRx R100 Satellite Receiver

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=13418

Price Check: May 1, 2012 HobbyKing – International $ 11.83

R610 Orange Rx Combo – Add $ 5.83

Extend your range and increase your link robustness with the OrangeRx satellite receiver.

Spec:
Frequency: 2.4Ghz DSSS (DSM2 Compatible)
Size: 21x14x2mm
Wire Length: 210mm
Warranty.
12 Month replacement guarantee!
Included.
OrangeRx OrangeRx R100 Satellite Receiver

RC Groups
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1304286

Range Checks

#008: DX-7 – receiver shuts down and locks.

Range Check Initiated 139 paces 112 meters 368 feet
Full Range 148 Meters 485 feet

#293: Some only get 17 paces, others are good to 60+ paces.

#310: Rx location in the model can be an issue. Next time you do a rx check:
 have someone hold the model ,then at end of normal check distance
 have them slowly rotate the model and then walk in a small circle

Purpose: Check that the Tx and Rx see each other from all angles
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#357: I just had one of my orange rx without sat fail on me this weekend at around 300 yards small balsa wing
with at least 20 - 30 flights using this rx.

#381: The R610 is a park flyer receiver. It performs very simarly to a AR6200 except with better range (in my
case). I regularly use them in plane and gliders I take to 2000' + altitude and to a small speck in the sky. I have
them, with satellites, in up to 2 meter gliders and 100" + powered planes, both electric and glow.

#385: none of the DSM2 compatible OrangeRx is sold as a full range Rx right out of the package (the nylon bag).

You need to add a remote Rx to turn it into full range.

Even if you place an order for a main and remote receivers they will come in the same big box but still
separated - not connected to each other and each of them in its own baggie

#427: OK, Very happy with my results so far... I've had two flights with the antenna on the main rx cut to size and
the added satellite on my powered glider. Ground range check on both flights generated the same results:

30 paces - strong signal

50 paces - signal was starting to faint, control surfaces where starting to respond a bit slow
60 paces - signal was cutting off.

I had 3 spotters with me today, no GPS data just line of sight so I took the powered glider up to altitude...
We collectively figured I was well in to the 2100 to 2400 foot range, the 78 in. wing span looked like a 1/16 -
1/8 in. sliver on the sky. The signal remained strong and was in total control throughout the 15 min flight
and I felt I could push it up even more!

#440: Some are only good for 15 paces while others are great past 60 paces while in range test mode.

#442: I have 2 dozen with range tests all between 60 and 75 paces

Signal Loss Recovery Time

#8: 3 seconds

Brown Out Discussons

#279: Brownout is NOT a receiver problem but a power problem (inadequate ESC, bad contact, etc.).
Brownout warning flashing when the model landed ?

#324: The only other thing I can say, is to be sure your power system is able to handle the strain of your motor.

Problems end up being an ESC shutting down because the motor was pulling too many amps
This shuts down the ESC due to the LVC (low voltage cutoff) kicking in.

Or a loss of control because you're using more servo's than the built in BEC could handle.

I won't use an ESC with anything less than a 2A to 3A BEC, depending on the model I'm flying.
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Otherwise, I use an ESC that has a Switch Mode BEC - that has a switching regulator and usually a 3A or
higher rating.

Or lastly - Use a UBEC which is just an external BEC that powers your receiver via the main battery
instead of being built in to the ESC.

#331: A rx shutdown -in flight - is probably 100% caused by power failures - any brand .

#332 9 out of 10 crashes due to a "loss of control" is most likely due to:
An issue with power to the receiver
The ESC shuts down - battery that can't handle the amp draw of the motor
The ESC isn't rated for the amps being drawn through the ESC.

#484: I have several models that use full size servos. I fly with a standalone BEC and orange receivers with sats. I
fly most every day so get a lot of flight time in. Never had an issue with the orange receivers.

Receiver Placement in the Model

#324 Make sure you place your receiver/satellite in a good spot that isn't being blocked by anything,
Try to stay away from your battery and ESC or anything that's metal or carbon fiber.
Be sure your electronics work well together - So nothing is being heavily strained and causing:
 A low voltage cut-off
 Thermal shutdown of the ESC.

Example

A 480 size brushless Outrunner

25A ESC
12X6 prop

WattMeter says pulling about 29A,

Here is what could happen

1) Thermal Shutdown kicks in

You loose control of your model until it cools down.
By then it's usually too late to recover from crashing

2) Don't have a "thermal shutdown" feature built into your ESC and over-amp it,
Thus fry your ESC and lose control of your model.

3) The internal BEC can't handle the amps that the servos are pulling
You lose power to your receiver.
Takes about 2 to 4 seconds before the receiver will reset,
Results in a crash because you have NO control of your plane until it "kicks back in"

#333: Loss of control due to bad batteries or overloaden BEC is indicated by a flashing LED.

#334: If you lose the signal with the Orange Rx, the LED will NOT blink
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The LED only blinks if you lose the proper voltage to power the receiver.

Having any Rx very close to your battery or electronics, or metal/carbon fiber will greatly affect your range
results.

You could have excellent range while the plane is facing one side of you, and get a "false positive" range
test because of it, and lose over half that range when your plane turns the other way.

Electronics and metal/CF can seriously alter your "range" depending what angle you happen to be at while
flying.

That's 2.4ghz though. It's range is based on "line of sight".

#358: Put the satellite antenna OUTSIDE of the plane, taped down to the fuse.

#359: The Rx was placed flat on the wing with the antenna pointing aft. The Rx antenna that failed s just a hair
above 38mm .

One of the wire push rods which was running 1.5in. above the antenna and happened to be parallel with it.
Something I did not consider being an issue that may have contributed along with having a long antenna.

#360: If your antenna is running parallel with a CF rod, it can have a negative result on your signal.

Trim your antenna down to 30-32mm

Add the satellite antenna as well
Re-position your receiver away from that CF rod

video from Flight test. It may help you with receiver/satellite placement in a model.

http://flitetest.com/articles/proper-rx-placement/

RF Link Discussons
#279 RF link as the issue.
Do a really thorough ground range check. - not so much about distance as determining whether
anything is blocking the signal.

Critical with a single antenna receiver like the Orange - a satellite gives you a big advantage
If the antenna is hidden behind something conductive like a battery, wiring, chunk of CF, etc. it can
be "shadowed" if the model gets into the right (wrong?) attitude in the air. The likelihood can be
greatly increased if you point the transmitter antenna at the model, thus drastically reducing signal,
as pointing the TX is a natural tendency.
that's why the antenna should be bent up or to the side while flying

Antenna Length Discussons – Lengths are measured from the solder joint to the end of the wire.

#276: Optimal length 30mm

Wrong Length 43mm

#285 Range Checked the 43mm antenna – 97 paces = lockout

Range Checked the 30mm antenna – 100 paces = lockout
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Note – both tests exceed the 30 paces recommended by Spektrum

#312: Assuming that the antenna was meant to be 1/4 wavelength long,
That antennas are always a little shorter in length than the equivalent wavelength in free space.

The correct length should be about 31 mm, or 1.25 inches.

An antenna length of 33 mm might be okay
but 43 mm definitely doesn't seem right,

#313: I've noticed a slight difference during range testing (for the better) by cutting them down to 31mm.
I had a typical gain of about 8-10 paces.
31mm is based on the Spektrum receivers antenna length

#350: 31mm is just about the correct theoretical length for a quarter wave 2.4GHz antenna (in theory the mid-
band should be 30.6mm, but the range is from 30.0 to 31.2) - and is what my Orange RXs all are.

#351: Agreed, also 1/4 antennas have a very broad bandwidth and show little attenuation until the vswr is quite
high. Just trim or add them to around 31 mm and you should be good to go

#355: The theoretical length of a resonant 1/4 wave antenna is a function of the diameter of the wire as well as
the frequency. Larger diameters correspond to shorter lengths. Did you take that into consideration?

#432: I am going to mod the antenna on the Orangerx R610 so that it is like the long antenna on an AR500.This
will allow the active element it to be as far away from the clutter in and around the fuselage.I want to be able to
attach it to a support(plastic tube) so that it is 100mm above/below the fuselage

I use the the R610 + satellite + wifi booster for fpv(3.4km so far)

The plan:
Solder UFL connector to the R610 pcb ,connect GND of the UFL to the ground plane of the pcb.

Cut off the rpsma connector from the cable,cut back 31mm of the shield from that end and use UFL to connect to
pcb of R610.

I am going to use the ufl so that if(when) antenna gets damaged in crash a new one just needs to be pushed into
place without soldering.

FPV

#324: They're perfect for anything but FPV …..

Model Sizes

#325: fly large and small planes (if 75" is large) I fly at both a large and small field at distances it's hard to see
which side is up.

#326: have them in up to 105" span planes, 140" powered gliders and 148" thermal gliders that I regularly spec
out. No issues at all. They worrk better than genuine Spek receivers for me.
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#342 I have planes up to a 72" stik and 51" Katana. I fly at 3 different fields. I use nothing but orange receivers
with sats. I have never had signal loss. In theory it just shouldn't happen in line of sight applications. I'm not saying
this is true of people posting here, but "signal loss" used to be blamed a lot more in the past then now as our club
has gotten more experience and can see other causes like getting behind the power curve

Miscellaneous Stuff

#289: The battery can connect to any unused servo port. You can temporarily connect it to another port just to
make room for the bind plug even if you have to temporarily disconnect a servo. Then when you're done binding,
arrange the plugs as they were before

DSM2 and DSMX

OrangeRx R610 is compatible with all Spektrum DSM2 Air transmitters.

The OrangeRx will work with ANY Aircraft Spektrum DSM2 2.4Ghz transmitter

#337: When will Hobby King to start making DSMX compatible Orange Rx receivers?

Telemetry

#480: looks like the close proximity of the TM1K to the RX regardless of the satellite is creating interference. Also,
due to the range check results on my first test plane I was not comfortable taking out my Jug to the usual
distances I normally take it out to.

Having said that, I still trust the reliability of the orange/satellite combo alone and will continue to fly them. Perhaps
the better use of the TM1000 is with the genuine spektrum receivers

#485: My issue was when flying with the Spektrum TM1000 telemetry module along with the orange rx and
satellite. Orange rx with sat. alone has been very reliable for me

R910 Orange 9 Channel Receivers

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=17621

Compatible with all Spektrum DSM2 Air transmitters.

The new range of OrangeRx R910 receivers are built using original components and MCUs and with state of
the art SMT automation to ensure a quality product each and every time.
All OrangeRx receivers are QC tested before leaving the factory.
The OrangeRx will work with ANY Aircraft Spektrum DSM2 2.4Ghz transmitter.
The OrangeRx 9ch is only 14g in weight and 46x30x14mm in size with case, Great for medium/small planes
& helis, right up to large scale models.
Key features.
Super light weight 14g grams with case.
Compatible with DSM2 1024/2048 aircraft radio and module systems.
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9 Channels Analog & Digital servo

Compact design 38mm x 26mm x 9mm, with case 46 x 30.7 x 14mm.
Single 195mm antenna for mounting in almost any location.
Input voltage: 3.7~9.6V.
2 x Satellite port included. TWIN SATELLITE PORTS
1 Port S.BUS OUT - Works with S.BUS servos and GY750.
Failsafe: All channels to bind position at signal loss.

#377: have 3 of the 9ch w/ 2 sats. One in my 3.5 meter motor glider, one in a 3.7 meter thermal glider and one in
a twin .75 P-38. All fly absolutely perfect. I regularly take the gliders to tiny little specks in the sky w/o any issue.

#380: The R610 Orange Rx is rated as a parkflyer receiver

The R710 and R910, are full range receivers

#434: But as far as I know, the R910 (9 channel) is DSM2, and not DSMX.
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