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on recovery forces?
SPEAKER Okay, we were ready to go on the first
launch as we told you then and since then we have partially
withdrawn some of the forces during the stand-down period or
theslip period. However, we have again deployed those
forces and they are in position now around the world. The
force of people that activate the ROCR, the recovery operations
control room in Houston, will arrive in Houston tonight.
We'll have that in full force and fully activated tomorrow.
In fact the slipped launch date has given us an opportunity
to provide some more capability in covering this mission in
the form of ARIA aircraft. We are not going to provide
an additional ARIA to cover the vents that take place
during the docking and first days activity. In other words,
we're ready to go are so are the mission.
SPEAKER Go ahead and start back there.
QUERY For Mr. Schneider, what sort of
consideration go into these choices you have yet to reach
with respect to the order of priority. Who has to argue
with whom now, and then how long might it take? And A, as
a subjective sort of thing I suppose. Is there some pride
of authorship in the orgin of these various mods that has
come into this discussion in any way?
f SCHNEIDER Let me take the easy part first. This
is a NASA team, I have never seen any organization l've ever
worked with before that has worked parochialism. Our teams are
working hand in glove. When we say something is being done
at Houston for example, that means that the people from Mar-
shall are there, there are people from various contractors
there, there are people from Langley there. When we say
there are things going on at Marshall the same is true. We
do have technical people in various centers and we - they do
have technical discussions. There's no denying that. There is
no "we-they" that I've been able to detect anywhere in the
system. Now as far as how the decision will be made, we will
be trading off the various pluses and minuses. The parasol,
the minus on the parasol is a lack of full proof that the
material will last for 90 days. That's proof there are tech-
nical opinions and good techincal opinions that it will last.
There is no proof, no experimental proof that that material
will last. The two pole thermal shield - we're confident that
that material will work. There's no controversy there. It
requires a extravehicular activity. And that makes - that
puts another day in the activation because we would delay
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QUERY I guess Mr. Schneider just probably
answered my question, but just to get it clear, assuming that
your first two options on the parasol and the twin pole sail
were to prove unsueeesful you would still hope to do an EVA
on the SEVA sail despite the docking problem.
SPEAKER Well, again as Mr. Kleinknecht said, if
you had we have to get a thermal shield up there fairly rapidly.
And if we have a serious problem with the docking probe, we
would undoubtledly - which would prevent us from docking again,
we would undoubtedly - I say undoubtedly right now - I be-
lieve at this point that what we would do would be separate
and deploy the SEVA sail and then go home. Because our
first priority is going to be save the workshop and if we
don't get a thermal shield up there why - we're having quite
a management problem as you know - management of the thermal
and electrical systems and it's causing us to use a lot of
propellant to do that. Quite obviously we've got to get that
under control. So if we have a serious docking problem and
the other two methods fail we would go ahead, undock, do a
SEVA, and then come home.
/_ PAO Okay, we'll now switch to the KSC news-
center for questions, please.
QUERY I hope I'm not repeating a question
a question which was asked before, but some of the communications
from Houston were a bit garbled here. What exactly was done
to the probe when it was in the Apollo spacecraft? And do you
at this time know exactly why that last docking succeeded when
the others did not?
SPEAKER If I interpreted your question right,
you think that we took the probe out and brought it into the
spacecraft. We did not take the probe out. We took the hatch
out which gave us access to the probe. And the reason for
doing that was to remove a plate off of the back end of the
probe so that when it did retract, a shaft in there could
move and not damage the probe. Now, on the last docking on
the last attempt which did give us a hard docking we bypassed
the electrical logic in the probe system that told the probe
that the capture latchs had indeed captured when they had
not. We then pulled up to the - used the probe and the drogue
for a centering device using RCS thrusters pulled up into
the drogue, started the probe retracting - it was not captured
- the capture latches had not captured, so it did not pull
the spacecraft in. In lieu of that we used the RCS to push
the spacecraft in as the probe retracted. So as far as the
latches are concerned, they thought everything was normal
when the command module came in contact with the surface of
z the MDA side of the probe. All 12 latches said I'm ready to
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that we may recover from that too. When the crew gets in they
can cycle the switches and sometimes that will clear up such
problems.
QUERY Okay, going back to one question that
was raised - which of the crewmen performed the EVA function
as far as the docking was concerned? We do not have that man
identified right now - it's not available as far as mission
control is concerned. If the crew volunteers it before they
go to sleep or perhaps I don't know - perhaps they are already
starting that now - we'll pass on the information as soon as
we get it. Otherwise, I'm sure the question will be raised
in the morning and we will get the answer to you. We'll be
open all night. There will be a commentary - a commentary re-
port throughout the morning hours, and I guess that pretty
much winds it up for this evening. Thank you very much.
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except for some time period shortly after lift-off, and may-
be once or twice when we went to solar inertial for one rev.
We did do one extra thing in the activation tonight. Be-
fore the crew goes to bed, they are going to install an
airduct, interchange duct. It was going to be done in the
morning, but we decided to do it tonight. This duct carries
cool air from the front of the vehicle to the back, basically.
It goes across the OWS hatch from the airlock aft compartment
into the OWS air system. And we have a couple, in fact, we have
four big heat exchangers in the airlock module which will
be turned on tonight. So, all night long, we'll be pumping
cool air down there. We expect it to be warm but not par-
ticularly uncomfortable tomorrow. I would imagine it is
going to be something less, somewhere between 90 and 100.
It's kind of hard to say, it depends on how fast it cools
down. And we intend to go on with activation for a mod-
ified flight plan tomorrow. We will finish turning on
the workshop and we hope to sleep down there tomorrow night.
Tonight we are sleeping in the command module with all the
hatches open, all the way up and down the chain. And I
think the crew is kind of tired and we are kind of tired
but we're awful happy we pulled this thing off. And it
looks like Bill said, we're kind of back on the road to
normalcy, if there is such a thing.
PAO Jack do you have anything to say about
your parasol?
KINZLER I guess I'll start off by saying that
I'm mighty proud to be a part of the NASA team. I've been
with NASA about 31 or 2 years now and all my career has
been dedicated toward doing what I could for the program.
And as a matter of fact, I joined the space test group with
Bob Gilruth in the early days and I built up the Technical
Services Division. It is sort of a shop oriented R and D
support group. And having this group at my command made
it relatively easy for me to rapidly construct an object
of this type. However, I did think of the idea myself
and I thought the best thing I could do would be go to proto-
type. And I'll just be brief, hut it might be a little in-
teresting to indicate how this came about. Pete Conrad,
as someone has said, is my next door neighbor. I was quite
concerned about Pete being up there and not bein_ able to
have a mission. I mean, not really being out, but whether
they would go up or not. And so I knew that the center
management was looking for ideas and other centers included.
And so I started from scratch just trying to determine
what might be a suitable protective device. And the thought
_- occurred to me that the package has to be small to fit in
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has been no concrete results out yet and we are still con-
ducting them. We do think that if we have evidence that
the material in the parasol will not last there is, well
if we have any evidence that it will not last, or if we
not have evidence that will convince us that it will last,
we will go out and we will deploy the twin pole boom some
time later in order to make sure that we have a vehicle
there when we go up for Skylab III. Obviously our first
pass with the save Skylab and I think that we have, of
course it took the ingenuity of a great number of very in-
ventive people and it took the talents of a great number of
very dedicated people to join together and get us this
vehicle which right now I think is under control. As Nell
said, he spent, he spent a great deal of time here controlling
a vehicle which was built to be in solar inertial. And I
don't know how long it has been in solar inertail but I
sure know
SPEAKER About l0 minutes and 12 days.
SCHNEIDER And now that we are able to get into
solar inertial we think that we'll be in good shape. From
my own personal standpoint, I feel that after that flight
hardware has been subjected to such off nominal conditions
as it has in the past 12 days, I have even higher confidence
than I had before that it will behave very well in the up-
coming 8 months.
PAO Arthur Hill.
QUERY Somewhat in that regard, I wonder if
you could tell us if there has been any more understanding
of the docking problem? And I would suppose it is a matter
of most concern there, at least to me it is, whether it is
going to be possible for the Apollo command module from
Skylab I to undock such that another Apollo will be able to
dock with Skylab in the normal manner? And also perhaps,
you mentioned the parasol lasting 3 months, which would in-
dicate or at least imply that you're thinking of the same
amount of time between the Skylab first mission and the
Skylab second mission as per the original flight plan.
There's been some discussion of that too.
KINZLER Well, I'ii let Bill answer the second
part. As far as the docking probe goes, well let me tell
you what we've done so far. We took the probe out this
morning, of course we did an inspection of it, we had a
couple of specific questions we asked them. And I think
I can tell you what the basic anomaly is, as far as how
to fix it, well let me tell you what the anomaly is. One
of the three captural latches is sticking in the head, closed,
depressed. It doesn't trigger. Now, we were able by fooling
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And Joe will be the observer, and then the next day we will
do the other two crewmen through the same experiment, so that
by the end of Tuesday, we will have had a biomedical run, a
full-blown biomedical run on all three crewmen. Tuesday,
as you know, we started the ATM, unmanned checkout. Now, this
is a change from the way we originally planned to operate on
Skylab, and we did this basically to conserve time. Since
we lost some time, the ground has assumed the checkout roll
on most of the ATM experiments, and we started that tonight.
In fact, it was started here about an hour ago. And that is
going to take about 16 hours. We'll be finished about
lunch time tomorrow with the ATM unmanned checkout. Then
on Tuesday morning, we will start the first crew ATH operations
and that will be about i and a half, one daylight pass, and
maybe a little more of another one of checkout which we
can't do on the ground, which they need to do. Tuesday
morning will be the first crew work at the ATM panel. Also
Tuesday, we will start the checkout of the EREP gear. And,
beyond that, I'm sure that Tuesday we will be running -
we will be beginning a standard set of ATM work on a regular
basis. The first EREP pass, like I said, is going to be on
Wednesday. We have already initiated some of the biomedical
experiments. The M074 we activated this afternoon. The
scales, and we have started weighing food and fecal matter,
and we've starting processing urine. Tuesday morning will
be an Mll0 blood letting, or whatever you would like to
call it, blood sampling. So we're going to start that. So
the obvious emphasis is on the biomedical, getting the
biomedical going now. Of course, on the corollaries, you
know, we don't have the plus-Z SAL, and I'm not sure -
We've already been doing some corollary work in the fact
that we've been running around and making temperature
measurements everywhere. That's one of the big M-47, I for-
get all the numbers, but corollary world is going to start
getting cranked up probably about the middle of the week.
And as you know, we're going to have to be doing some fairly
careful management between experiments because we haven't
got enough power to go around, We can't run the medical
experiments at the same time we got the ATM going. So,
there's going to be some juggling, but we're definitely off
and running.
QUERY When you do the RCS burn, do all the crew-
men have to go back to the CM and shut themselves in or can
one do it?
SPEAKER No, it's really a very simple procedure.
Basically, the burn is done either at orbital noon, or orbital
midnight. There's only two places you do it. It's either
- posigrade or retrograde. The attitude -
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running with that fire sensor turned off in that sleep com-
partment because it was giving us nuisance trips over and over
again. We also had a fire alarm in the OWS aft heat exchanger
yesterday and the crew - they pay attention to fire alarms -
if you've ever heard that klaxon you'd probably pay attention
to them too. Anyway they ran up there, opened the box up,
the aft heat exchanger's in the airlock aft compartment. It's
the thing that cools the air that's going down into the work-
shop - has four big fans in there - there are two fire alarms -
two fire sensors in the box. And he - Pete did it - he pulled
the lid off and got down in there with his flashlight and
couldn't find anything and so we've attributed that to a nuisance
trip also and I wouldn't be surprised if we've got some ad-
justment to do on some of them. Now, it so happens that that
one occurred right in the middle of the South Atlantic Anomaly,
which is a known possible causer of phony fire alarm trips
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module. In other words, it's taking hot air out of the dome
area of the forward compartment and blowing it up into the
airlock module where it gets into a heat exchanger, gets cooled
and gets sent back down again. And I think that's probably
of course the big fans turning on the third duct increases the
air circulation down there by a third. That's another 500
cubic feet per minute flow down there. I'm not sure and Dr.
Hawkins may want to comment on this. I'm not sure if we ran
the full protocols on M-171 today or not.
HAWKINS We did run the full. Both LB and PN 171.
HUTCHINSON So, it looks like we're going to be able
to do that. Of course the temperature right now is still
up around - oh it's 85 or 86 probably ambient air temperature
in there right in that area - it may be 87. So_ we're still
cooling off and it's slower and we don't think it's going as
far and it's going to take a while for us to reassess exactly
what that's going to mean to us. As far as the experiments
today - experiment anomalies, we had an anomaly in the pointing
system that points the ATM canister at the Sun. And I'm not
- this is the one that I'm not really sure is an anomaly or
not. I'm not sure that we didn't - not drive the automobile
exactly right the first time around and maybe what we think
is an anomaly really is going to turn out not to be one. I
think it's too early to say. Basically, the thing that appears
to be wrong - and I'ii say again I'm not sure that therels any-
thing wrong - is there is a Sun sensor - as you know the ATM
canister has it's own pointing system that stabilizes it even
tighter than the stabilization the vehicle has and it works
on a principle very, very similar to the vehicle. It has a
Sun sensor that looks at the Sun that can tell how far it is
off the center of the Sun and it has a set of gyros that measure
the slight motions that it has and it's a completely a two
degree of freedom inertial stabilization system. The Sun
sensors are also used to point the canister at features on
the Sun. And we have the capibility to manipulate it - the
crew and the ground has the capibility to manipulate it - to
drive it down to specific features we want to look at. And you do
this by moving a little prism that comes in and directs the light
into the Sun sensor and it fakes the Sun sensor out. It makes it
think that it's not really on the center of the Sun and so it
moves the canister to get it on the center of the Sun. It
just - prism just bends the light. Like I said it - we move
it in two axes and we call it UP, DOWN, LEFT RIGHT. It's just
this way or this way which can move it across the face of the
Sun. And the thing that we don't understand and it appears
not to be working right is one of these wedge-drives in the
up-down direction. And right now it looks like the canister's
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PAO Milt Windler the Flight Director is here
for our first early morning press conference and as usual
we'll let him make the statement and then take questions.
WINDLER Well, it's been a pretty quiet night.
The crew slept down in the sleep compartment of the workshop.
They reported that they had a fairly nice rest. I think they
said that it's cooler than it has been although I think they
said some words which ya'll perhaps overheard on the loop
but indicated that they wouldn't have minded if it had been
a little bit eooler_ but they felt like they did get a pretty
good nights rest. And we've- the- let's see- I guess it
was Kerwin had the 133 sleep monitoring device on and it work-
ed pretty good for a while hut then the electrodes apparently
got dry there and the data was not completely satisfactory
throughout the whole night. And we're still looking at that
and trying to understand it because we just got a report from
the crew about that when they work up a few minutes ago. And
other than that we've been planning what we're going to he
doing today. It's a pretty full day as far as experiments
go. We have an EREP pass. A lot of ATM work, biomed runs,
a little bit of everything I guess. And tomorrow; we polished
up plans for tomorrow and that's more of the same. The weather
looks real good and we've got another EREP pass tomorrow. We
looked at the weather for the day after that - day 152 and
that weather doesn't look suitable for that - to try to change
the plans to have the crew dayoff on that day. So that's
presently the plan. And that's about where we are. Nell
Hutchinson is just getting ready to hit the ground running
over there with the execute team and get all the things done
today that are on the flight plan. Now I'll try to answer
questions.
PAO Please wait for the mike.
QUERY Could you go over that EREP thing again.
I'm not sure I understood you there. I'm a little foggy this
morning myself.
WINDLER We do have a pass today, EREP pass today
and the time of that is oh, let's see if I can find it in the
flight plan, from 20:34 to 21:01. And I believe that's down
through the Texas area starting from over in the California
area, winds up across in through the Rio Grande Valley, I believe.
Yes on schedule for tomorrow too. We have two flight plans
for tomorrow. As we usually do we have an EREP pass and in
case the weather is not satisfactory we have a no-EREP alternate.
And what that amounts to is essentially doing some corollary
activity and an ATM viewing period in place of the earth resources
experiment. We have M487 and SO19 scheduled for the alternate
tomorrow in case the weather is not satisfactory.
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this spring to check and see what damage actually had occurred
in this burn area. And on the right you see the hottest part
of that fire where some of the trees are actually killed, but
the majority of the burn was as you see it on the left with
very little damage occurring. And those blue spots on the
tree trunks are trees marked to remain after the cutting. Next
please. Now what does all of this mean to foresters as lumbermen?
First of all, it means that they are going to, in the future
when we develop an operational sattelite, have a continuous
flow of up-to-date information which has never before been avail-
able to them. This will give them a new management tool so
that they'll be able to better manage timber lands. And better
management will balance supply and demand hopefully and
help stabilize lumber prices and if any of you have tried to
buy a house recently, I think you'll realize how important
that item is. This brings my little discussion to a close.
Are there any questions on this subject?
QUERY I wonder if you'd tell us some of those 15
types of forest features that you can distinguish - you don't
have to numerate them all but give us some for instances and I'm
also curious why the hardwoods are red and the pines green in
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the pictures you showed us?
HEATH That was just a computerized map and we
could have the option of selecting any color that we wanted to
to represent the various timber types. So that was just our
arbitrary choice of red for hardwoods. In that particular
area, some of the types that we recognized were pine, hardwood,
mixtures of the two, regeneration areas where the forest service
has cut timber and then replanted it. And then we followed it
through several stages of regeneration. First of all where
it was just the pine cutting and then where they sighted and
prepared by heavy equipment for the planting and then eventually
the young trees coming through. And we picked up features like
roads and right of ways which really surprised us because the
computer actually was able to distinguish between highways and
pipelines. And this, to us, we felt was quite remarkable. Then
of course we picked out bodies of water and agriculture and
other land use patterns which help us differentiate forest land.
Any further?
SPEAKER Let me introduce, then, Mr. Jfm Webster
to express his thoughts on the subject.
WEBSTER Well, really I feel sort of overwhelmed
with the company I'm keeping because they kind of brought me
in as tame coon to show me this thing and say what do you think
about it? That blew my mind right there. One of the things
that has impressed me most about this whole thing is the fact
that as has been pointed out many times in recent years, the
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and so forth, but this will teach where we can grow what
the best. Wild life habitats, for those people that are
extremely interested in that. Certainly, current soil
moisture and current soil moisture conditions anywhere
in the world and sustaining conditions, again, where? It
will enable us to do continuous mapping and intensive long
range planning that we Just don't even dream of today. As
an example, this ERTS satellite picture of the fire damage.
This was taken incidental to its routine overflights, and
today, this sort of thing has to be done by intensive
ground and aerial checks by experienced personnel. The
thing that struck me is this was done from a satellite with
only 15 spectral analysis combinations. And the one that's
up now, I had a guy figure up this morning for me, has
6462 combinations that they can put together. The poss-
ibilities are endless. Thank you.
PAO Any questions for Mr. Webster.
PAO Let's move ahead then, to the subject
of agriculture. And George Specht of Martin Marietta
SPECHT Thank you. I might start off by saying
that each particular field crop and the condition of the
f_ fields, whether they be plowed or what the moisture con-
tent is, each different type gives off its distinct signature.
Now, NASA has been doing research in determining exactly
what these signatures are, and assigning values to these
signatures, and comparing these to crop calendars as we
might call them. And through this data, we can do two things.
We can find the slide for you. One thing is to increase the
crop yields, something beneficial to man. May we have that
first slide? Some of these things that we can evaluate
from multispectral analysis are the physical and chemical
properties of the soil. The topography of unimproved
land which may be good land to cultivate. We can monitor
a runoff in erosion, and kind of keep our planting out
of those areas. We can inventory water sources and determine
the water content of the soil. We can detect very early,
diseases and insect infestation. And we can optomize crop
planting practices through analyses of different types
of fields, and how they are growing. And we can determine
best row spacing, best planting and harvesting times fert-
ilization requirements, and irrigation requirements the
best crop rotations, and the best crop species for different
areas. And we can also determine the particular crops in
different fields and the sizes of the field and in doing
this with valid crop surveys and census and yield estimates
and a good management of planting and distribution, we can
optomize a worldwide agricultural practice. Now, we have
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treatment. And the red blocks, the little red blocks you see
are - were irrigated the day this was photographed. The other
tones if we had this blown up a little bit or you looked at
the frame with a magnifying glass, you'll see there are five
different irrigation treatments in there and I've tested
secretaries and had them put the plots in one of the five
categories and they can do it with i00 percent accuracy. This
is a very good illustration of water effect on cotton. There
are many other things but in the sake of time let's move on
to the next frame please. We need to have this part at the
top - this border at the top. This is a high altitude NASA
aircraft picture. I believe this is with Zeiss camera. This
is just south of the city of Phoenix. This is the - for any
of you familiar with it, is the International Harvester proving
ground for you right here, south mountain area. But I want
you to concentrate on - could we pull that down just a hair?
We may be running it off - -. Okay, here we are, okay. I
got it. We want to concentrate on this field right here. l_m
going to show you a low altitude picture of this field. This
particular print here is a transparency about the first of
_ October and the one I'm going to show you is taken earlier
in the Summer. This is all cotton in here, but the fellows
cut the water off this and has a very weird looking crop. This
particular field here is a 70 acre field that we sampled very
extensively. It has Delta pine 16 cotton on the west end -
west half and Stonebill 213 on the other and if you look closely
even from there you might see a different tone from here to
there. I point that out because different varieties have
different infrared tones. Now, if could have the next one
it'll blow it up. We need to have this side on again to the
top. This is the field here. This is not part of our problem
really, but you'll notice the very peculiar looking cotton
down here. This was heavily infested with a boll worm problem,
but the fellow went ahead and harvested prematurely so he
cut us out of our experiment. And since it was a commercial
grower we didn't have control over it. We concentrated on
this field here. Our big cotton boll rot problem is down
in here and if you look closely you'll see that it has a relat-
ively homogeneous infrared tone to it. A nice crimson red tone
to it. You get up in here and you can tell this cotton is
stressed for water. There was no problem in here at all. And
we have much other data to go with this, but this illustrates
how the infrared did - color infrared did help us solve our
problem. Next frame please. This should be at the top again
this border. The frame will be attached to the press release
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doesn't have the complete T black. But only the vertical part
has been burned over. Later this stubble was burned. This
is barley in here and actually this (garble) which is rye
wheat cross in here, but it's very hard to tell the difference.
All these are cotton fields around here, but I'll illustrate -
around the T are cotton. I'Ii just briefly illustrate a
couple of things. Here is herbicide damage. This herbicide
was not supposed to affect that cotton. But it did seriously
affect it right in here, presumably because it was applied
when the temperature was too hot. All these little spots
you see in here are previous herbicide treatments to control
morning glory which is a very serious weed in the San Joaquin
Valley. And here is an old flood channel that you can pick
up. This is a field of safflour here. This is a full section
of barley one mile by one mile. Here you see some irrigation
water being applied. It makes that dark tone up in there, too.
And the light areas you generally see are due to a high salty
soil. This is very salty soil as you get over toward the Fresno
slew. These are tomatoes in here that are being harvested
and the different streaks you see are where it's harvested
and not harvested. And the little white dots are actually
tomato pickers. If you look at this frame with a magnifying
glass you' ii see the tomatoes in the wagon. The tomatoes are
yellow under color infrared. There are some - the red line
right there down through there - I don't know if you can see
it from there, but as far as we can tell this is a compaction
strip where the - it was a so-called turn row the previous
year and the soil has been matted down hard. We would expect
it to be light rather than red, but it - for some peculiar reason
it's showing as a healthier crop. I think I have one more
frame. That's it. Okay. Glad to answer any questions I can.
PHELPS Yes sir?
QUERY You've mentioned some services - the
aerial and the ERTS satellite that gave you information that
you couldn't get on the ground or you couldn't get it except
at great expense and you've also mentioned where you've been
able to use the information for some benefit. Could you put
a dollar estimate on any of the money you've saved. _ The dif-
ference between doing it one way and doing it the other? Or any
dollar estimate on how much good it did any of your crop work?
SPEAKER I really couldn't at this stage because
we haven't completed our study and we haven't really put dollars
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as well.
SPEAKER I might to say a couple of more things
in this vein. From Skylab, we're going to be getting
actual photographic data with high resolutions up to 180
line pairs per millimeter, which we can't get that kind
of resolution from scanner data. And number two, we're working
in the areas of interpretation. And in order to develop techniques
to reduce the data, we have to be able to take out the atmospheric
attenuation of facts on the data. And we have an Sl91 spectro-
meter on board, which can track the entire pass, a point
target of one quarter mile, which will give us a lot of
information on atmospheric attenuation, so we can determine
how to remove this.
QUERY In other words, then, what you're say-
ing then, is the EREP pass experiment on Skylab is nothing
more than an extension of your ERTS equipment.
SPEAKER Very much so.
QUERY And you' re pushing the state of the
art in a lot of ways.
SPEAKER Great ly.
QUERY I understood, the sensors on Skylab
had both applications of - that is we were trying to im-
prove the state of the art, but that there would be hard data,
also, coming back from the EREP package. Things that will go
into the center at Sioux City and Sioux Falls where ever, and
is this - you're saying that this is just the - that this is
really just the beginning?
SPEAKER Most of the data that's coming off
Skylab is over selected test sites. And if it is not going
to give yon worldwide coverage like you get on the ERTS.
They're just selected test areas of a flrrite area in particular
areas. And all of that data will go eventually to Sioux
Falls so that it can he used by anybody, but it is just
selected test sites. So that you're pressing the state of the
art.
QUERY It is correct in saying that there'll be
hard data that can be used immediately?
SPEAKER The multispectral package is something that
we've been working with for a good many years so this isn't a far
out approach. This is something that most people are fairly familiar
with.
WOOD We surely thank you for sitting in
with us this afternoon. If we can help you in any other
way, please come to us.
WOOD Mr. Webster has something more he wants
to say.
WOOD Yeah, we have five sets of five diff-
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when you said you were up in that wierd angle, was that
at 45 percent.
HUTCHINSON No. That was, if you'll recall, the
time we got into that little problem, was one of those
times when we were doing a cold soak, and we had maneuvered
up to 65 degrees pitch, which is, you know, way up there.
That's not - you remember we were flying at 45, and then
a couple of times there towards the end, we did this thermal
shock maneuver to try and give a big thermal impetus to
the workshop by going on up very, quite a bit more. It
was during 2 revs of that that we got into this situation.
And I would say that, would yon not say that's the only
other time that we've driven the batteries down as low
as we did today? That's the only other time we've driven
them down as low as we did today with EREP.
QUERY I had another part to that. Did I
understand you to say you also had this problem on the
pad? Or you mean, did you refer to while the crew was on
the pad?
MCLENDON No, during one of the pad checkouts
down at the Cape, when they were running through their
initial checkouts, and they were trying to do some check-
outs on the CBRM, they noticed they could not close the
solar array contactor on the same CBRM - CBRM 15, by the way.
And, you know in the ATM C & D area they have a little
digital address system, where they just dial in a function
code and it's essentially the same as our command system
down here. Well, they were using that as part of the
checkout and they noticed that they couldn't get the
contactor closed. That means, they couldn't command it
through the digital address system. And they found the
only way they could get the contractor closed was to
cycle the on-board switches that they have for that function
right there, and if they're cycled those a number of times,
they did have success in closing the contactor.
QUERY I have two questions. How would the
crew --
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rule that says concretely how many CBRM's you have to lose.
Again you get into the management game here. We had allowed
in all of our pre-mission planning - of course, this was assum-
ing you had an airlock power system to start with. But we had
allowed for four CBRM losses. But, obviously, if you get
down to that point today, you're really going to he severely
hampered. But whichever one you lose, that just says you have
to play the management game just a little bit more.
QUERY Any problems in the food area today?
And in the power management, is there any possibility that
you would cut down on the amount of heat that the crew could
use to heat their food?
SPEAKER No problems with the food that I know of.
In fact, I don't know if you saw it - there was a meal prep
on it today. A meal prep and eating on one of the televisions
that they downlinked, and they looked like they were enjoying
it. The answer on curtailing the food preps in terms of
power considerations - it's sort of yes and no, definitely
not to where it affects them eating hot food. However, we're
doing some things that cause us not to use so much heat.
For example, we take the food out of the freezer 12 hours
_-- earlier like you would do at home if you wanted to thaw out
a roast. You'd set it out on the counter for half a day, and
therefore it doesn't take so much heat to heat it up. And
we' re doing some rehydrating with hot water and some things
like that to minimize the amount of power it takes to - it's
eating with minimal power, but as far as having them eat cold
food or anything of that nature, no, and there are no plans to
do that.
QUERY Well, if you find yourself in this sit-
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image we'll ask Dr. Reeves to step down and discuss that
particular image.
PAO I believe I'ii have to ask the mike handler
to come over and hold the microphone for the principal investi-
gator. Here's one, thank you.
REEVES Well, just a few words of explanation.
The H-Alpha telescope is a telescope which is quite comparable
to the ones that are used on the ground to regularly view the
Sun over a worldwide network to get an assessment of the solar
activity and the features that are always present on the solar
disk as the Sun rotates with it's 27-day period. The H-Alpha
from the ground gets a resolution of about i second of arc
normally, and in fact, the telescopes that we've provided for
ATM also get about the same resolution. They're a 6-inch
telescope, which were built by Perkin-Elmer, and our guide
telescopes, there are two for redundancy. These telescopes
provide the astronauts with a video image of the Sun's disk,
and then he uses those to guide the ultraviolet and X-ray
experiments very precisely down on the very small solar fea-
tures which we can see, which we have not ever been able to
see with previous satellites because of a limited resolution.
So now we can get very high spatial resolution with the X-ray
and ultraviolet instruments. And we have to provide the
astronaut with a way of guiding to exactly the spot we want
so that we can get detailed spectra, as well as the broader
field images, because most of the experiments, at least some
of them, have two modes, one sort of an imaging kind of mode
and one a detailed spectroscopic analysis mode. The astronaut
needs these to tell him where to go to start the activating
sequences of the experiment. And one of the H-Alpha telescopes
then provides a photograph which comes back down to the Earth
at the end of the mission, as film recovery quite comparable
to most of the other experiments. And we use that as a post-
flight record of exactly where the instruments were. We then
compare those with the other H-Alpha telescopes that were taking
pictures around the world at the same time and we know then
that the development and how to bridge the gap between the data
we saw and the data analysis and history that we build up on
the ground. With that kind of broad background, can we see
the H-Alpha? Here you can see the kind of display the astro-
naut is presented. He has a video display in H-Alpha, which is
a line of neutral hydrogen. You can see a small active region
here, a filament which was dark. And this is not the best
contrast picture, but this is a very very quiet region on the
Sun which normally has no structure that you could call active
regions
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gets his results right away. We have to wait and wait and
then we get ours all of a sudden, we hope, in a month or so
from now, or perhaps less than then. I'ii let you look at
OUrS •
REEVES Dr. McQueen.
DR. McQUEEN Well, the white light coronagraph went
through checkout on mission day 2 and 3 by ground command
almost completely, then the final checkout was accomplished
with the astronaut at the console on mission day 4. From
the time which we were turned on until now, we've exposed
between 900 and 1,000 frames on the corona which is right
on our budget for the total mission. We have a film canister
which contains approximately 8,000 frames, and as Dr. Tousey
just mentioned, we got it all in one fell swoop when we process
the pictures. We're very pleased with the TV image, it shows
the instrument is extremely well allgned. It shows the
astronaut is doing the alignment procedures which he does
every time he makes a picture through instrument, perfectly
well. We were quite distressed the first day that the TV
was turned on that we didn't get any comment from the
astronaut on the corona. I think this is a tribute to
their training. They expected it to be as good as it is.
i They've seen it in the simulator for many months. The sim-
ulator pictures we've given them, so everything's working
normally. We're very pleased with the way things have
gone up to now.
SPEAKER Dr. Bo uer.
BOUER We turned on our cameras on mission day
two and three unattended. The camera is in the focal plane
of the X-RAV spectroheleiograph, and with that instrument
(garble) it looks at a corona in between the one that Bob
McQneen has seen, and what the rest of the instruments have
seen. Everything has worked as expected, but we started
the (garble) observation on mission day 4 to 5, and yesterday
we finally turned our high voltage for the flare alarm system,
X-REA flare alarm system, which is a separate instrument,
and in spite of the fact that these first experiments are
going(garble) South Atlantic anomaly and only they most count
as planned so that the switch was not turned off on that South
Atlantic anomaly, I think that we got a very good response from
the astronaut, or what would have been a good response if
he (garble). By now we have taken some thousand frames
of film, and most of them, about 200 were down through
the South Atlantic anomaly thing, but most of the other
80 were done on very good sc_fi_ pT_@r_ms. We coordinated
in fact, and we hope operated simultaneo_s1_. Perhaps most
important in the number of things we've done program
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we are very pleased with the fact that there's a very large
complex of activity centered on those active regions you
saw (garble) monitored that started to be started, a very
pecular feature with a very pecular magnetic configuration.
And it's going to tell us, if we follow it throughout,
(garble) it's going to tell us about how the dynamics of
those large complexes of activity develope. How the magnetic
field changes as related to the plasma that we see encompassed
by the magnetic field in the corona. Simultaneous with the
other program which has been started, we are conducting
edit all the PIs and the synoptlcs study of the Sun and which -
and we particularly center our attention to observing the
magnetic field again in the (garble) corona of the Sun as
we have seen in the plasma confined by those structures. We
depend to receive our data on the astronaut receiving the
film and bringing it back the kind of information that is
contained in the photograph. I brought here one of our
rocket still photograph. You can kind of imagine what we
are looking for. We are looking for a film which will
last eight months, which will tell us the development of the
X-KAV feature for that portion of the corona. And I'ii
put them on the table up there. I have several sequences
of them, just a few still photos and you can have an idea
what the data should look like, but in that film sequence
of the (garble)
QUERY }lave you all taken steps to make sure
that the astronauts don't mistake some of the anomaly
again for a flare?
BAUER Yes, the sensors were there to start
with, on the pad there is a line which says, South Atlantic
anomalies forthcoming, which, turn the switch off. At the
time that we were going to the South Atlantic anomalies, it
was expected, it was the first time that we were doing it, of
course, the first the instrument was on, in addition it not
being turned on the day before when we were supposed to be,
Just because we decided to wait so that the picture of
(garble) in the canister would be as we expected it should
have been, and all of those things were in the pad,
so we have now told the astronauts that, and of course it's
going to be (garbled)
SPEAKER I think it's a simple matter that we had
to delay the cutting on of that particular part of the
hardware because of some press, Sty. bur_s we were getting in
the canister and we were a li_l_ :" _' ' about
concer_ed posslbly
corona of that particular high voltage system, so we de-
layed the cut on until the whole thing stabilized out, and
he operated the panel without that particular alarm, for
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has just received his first images from the photo electric
data and I thought Dr. Noyse described the result there.
And I think as time goes on, some more interesting observa-
tions could be made. We're just in the very beginning of
the observations right now. As far as the instruments are
concerned to summarize again I think they are working ex-
ceptionally well and I'm sure we're going to get excellent
data.
SPEAKER Remember there are some photographs that
will be available right after the conference and other
photographs will be available in the photographic branch.
Thank you.
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with the power available from the fuel cells in the CSM.
It's not a simple question nor a simple answer that relates
only to Sun angle. It relates also to how the power avail-
able fits with that available from the CSM.
SPEAKER John.
QUERY When do you move the vehicle out to
the launch pad? And does this change in any way your count-
down preparations?
SPEAKER The - June ii is our nominal spacecraft
move-out time, and this would not change any of our - the
content of our testing. It - it will change their - their
detailed phasing, but not the content.
QUERY Will you have to do a lot of overtime
work? In what way will you speed up the preparations?
SPEAKER Yes, we will - we will do some work on
the pad that had been planned in the VAB. We will work
the 4th of July, possibly, and we will work at least one
Sunday that we had not planned to work. We will take the
open days that we had previously allowed on our prior date.
SPEAKER Go ahead.
QUERY If the crew that's up there now does
perform an EVA to attempt to pull out the wing, and if they
are successful, would that have any impact on this proposed
early launch date?
SPEAKER I see no reason that it - that it would.
If we, of course, do get that array deployed, as we hope we
will, that would certainly alleviate our rationing of power
that we're having to go through currently. But I think we'd
still want to stick with our earlier date.
SPEAKER John.
QUERY Well, then, are you saying that it's
not just the power situation that is causing you to move
up the date? Are there other situations that were brought
to bear in this decision?
SPEAKER Well, there is the desire to - to- to
get up as early as we can in recognizing that we have been
stressing the - the active power system at higher levels
than it was designed. And there could be a diminishing of
the overall life accordingly. So we would like to complete
our planned series of missions earlier, if that is, in fact,
possible.
QUERY Overall life of the space station?
SPEAKER It is possible. If we continue to have
to stress the - the power system that we're using currently,
its overall life could be diminished. So there's a- certainly
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4000 charges and discharges. And this must tell you it's
a very, very difficult thing to test for. You put that in a
16-cycle today and 16 into 4000 will give you how long the test has
to be. And that's a general scheme of things to run the missions.
So we now are seeing some batteries of lesser ability to take
charge than it would have had. Some are working perfectly
normal. Now what we have to do is nurse those along and
hopefully as the temperatures cool, you charge and discharge
and the battery can tend to start taking more capacity.
So, on the question of curtailment at this time, I see no need
to. I think we could still do a respectable mission on the
power (garble) some 4100 watts. Now we do get into a squeeze
some CSM fuel cells run out, which is I think around the
14th of June. Because at that time we must feed the CSM
power from the workshop. And we' re talking like a 7 or
8 hundred load. It means for a period of a day or 2 will
be very tight, in terms what we can make available for
science but, then shortly thereafter, we start climbing up
At the end of mission we' re in our 7000 watts and this comes
about because they'll be im summary all the time because of
they call it Bt - Beta angle,processlon of the plane with (garble).
So at the end of this mission, our power's building up in
a period of about 2 to 3 days, where we'll really have to
sweat out. That assumes - -
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and down in this area, we know the solar panels by the num-
ber. And those batteries feeding off of those solar panels
at the end, we do see that they will take some current.
About i amp, very very low, 80 to 90 watts. So each -
this will charge batteries in the airlock module.
QUERY Do you think that they might have been subject
to less intense heat and therefore be likely to be in better
condition than the others?
PETRONE The answer to this is yes, they were
not, the temperature was not raised. We do have housekeeping
information on the batteries. We know the temperature. As I say,
we've been cycling two with the power we've been able
to get there just to make sure the system is working.
As far as we know 9 the batteries have not been abused. They
have been now on what we call stand voltage. They have been
sitting there with no load on them. We have no reason to
believe that, it will be 3 weeks Monday, should have affected
them. We have no reason to believe that they should have
deteriorated.
QUERY Is there no way to bring them in touch
with the solar, with the vanes on the ATM?
.... PETRONE No. There is a very complicated
charging system. We've tied the buses together. In other
words, you've got a line up here and a line down here,
if I call a bus. We've got that tied together. But you
could not charge from one into the other. And the question
of regulation. Each battery is active more - it's got its
own electronics that both charge and regulate. And when
the battery is finished charging, you're also feeding solar
power direct into your bus. We've intertled the buses so
we can feed from one end of the stack to the other. But you
cannot charge from one set of solar arrays to the other.
The electronics would become quite complicated to do that.
QUERY Would you consider doing this same EVA
deploying the twin-pole sail and if not when would you
consider deploying this?
PETRONE Well - -
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