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021 01 56 40 SPT SPT at 01:55 debriefing the ATM


pass which began at 01:08. Did
building block IA, IB and building
block 2 went straight forward. During
the course of these observations I
noticed the active region 21 in-
creasing in brightness in the XLrV, relative
to other active regions and what it
was before. It used to not be visible
in the pre.., image scope with the
settings that I have set up dash[?]
contrast, and 6-1/2 of brightness. And
now it has popped out of that back-
ground, and is the brightest thing on
the disk again. But, along with the
information of the southeastern ...
in active region 21 as we develop,
gives me some hope that before this
thing gets over to the other side
we might see something out of it yet.
So this torque - right now l'm at a -
a mode of taking some 55 data and 56, and
flare waiting for 54, and 82A and B.
Two truncated MIRROR, AUTO RAB','_s and
GRATING position of zero down to line 20
for 55, and a GRATING, AUTO SCAN at the
point - that's the point I wish I could
find, the oxygen VI, which surprisingly
was only about 12 - to 1300. And
then some MIRROR, AUTO RAST_Hs at 772.

SPT And these'll be MIRROR AUTO RASTERs trun-


cated down to line 20. 54 received
8 minutes SINGLE FRAME 4, and 6 minutes,
35 seconds SINGLE _ 5.

021 Ol 58 05 SPT SPT out.

TIME SKIP

021 02 29 00 PLT Okay, this is the PLT. The


time is 02:30. I'd like to debrief

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the M509 run. Run today. Okay,


I get strapped in and I noticed that
with the arms extended fUll, I could
not read all the nomenclature. Now,
I know where HHMU, DIRECT, RATE GYR0
and CMG is - the kep positions of
power but in my mind, it's ax_natic
that if it's worthwhile putting a label
on a piece of equipment, then one
ought to be able to read the label or
the nomenclature frc_ the work -
normal work position, i.e., head in
the helmet looking down at the selector.
Another thing, too is that this is very
drawn out because I've noticed that
this particular error is made repeatedly
and throughout all spacecraft, do no
attempt to orient nomenclature so that
the nomenclature is perpendicular to
the line of sight from the conventional
eye position of a normal operator.
._ That is to say, the man sittingon the -
in the right position same as in the -
in the 509 or whatever, in the cu_and
module. Any time he looks at a gage,
if - and if the noemclature is to be
read from that work position, the nomen-
clature should face him. It should not
be hidden as in many cases it is in the
co_Inand module, actually hidden. JBut,
in this event, it would be nice if the
nomenclature faced - was perpendicular
to the line of vision, i.e., ... the ...
yesterday.

021 02 B1 08 PLT Everything here is na - nice and


orthogonal and neat.

021 02 B1 12 PLT • Okay. There's so much. I should not


read all the nomenclature on the
slector. I didn't notice that in the
shirt sleeve run, and it may have been
because I moved my head over to see it,
and I was not able to do that in the
suited run. But I think it's - if it's
worthwhile putting nomenclatures on,
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then to avoid confugsion or error -


operator error, the nomenclature should
be readable from the normal eye position
of the operator over the adjustable range
and the range of variation for in-
dividual physiological variations, i.e.,
height, st cetera. Okay, so much for
that one. My next problem was that I
couldn't get the translation hand
controller and the rotation hand controller
out far enough to suit my purpose. I
was - I had to hold my wrist bent at the
wrist, p,Im_ bent toward the abdomen,
in order to properly address the controls -
to grasp the controls. This caused me
considerable discomfort and fatigue
during the entire operation. I - I
noted repeatedly that this was a big
bother and contributed to the degradation
of performance. And undoubtedly to
unsatisfactory opinion regarding some
f_ of the controlmodeswhich I'II go
into in a moment. The data pushbutton,
although the idea is great - the data
pushbutton - it is on the very sensitive
controller.

021 02 32 h5 PLT Oh, by the way, all of these controllers


are too sensitive in some modes, and not
sensitive enough in the others.

021 02 32 52 PLT I was going into that also, but auyway,


the data pushbutton, I don't know where it
should be located, but it should be
located in such a way that you don't
have a tendency to fire a thruster
when you push the data pushbutton.
Presumabely, you would not have that
on a working unit, but you would
probably have a mike button or something
else equally _s necessary. So, that to
me, it seems to - t be somewhat of
a problem, and it could be located on an
axis that was less easy[?] to move.
Don't ask me which one; I don't know.
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PLT Okay. So we - Let's see now,


let's go - let's make sure we
separate things. So I noticed that
the endings of the arms wouldn't
extend far enough, at least to be
satisfactory to me. So that -
I went through some checkouts there
in the - oh, and while I was in position.
Another thing, too, on - on nomenclature;
not only is the nomenclature sometimes
tangent _Imost 45 degrees to the
line of sight, hut, there's no reason
at all why nomenclature can't he
bold type. Therets no reason we have
to restrict ourselves to quarter-inch
high letters.

021 02 34 07 PLT I think that - now maybe it's Just


me and a 44-years old eyeball, but
it irritates me to have to squint
or concentrate when I get ready to
look at something, that there ought
to be high contrast and yet I - you
could be - conceiveable could be
working in dim light.

021 02 34 26 PLT And some attention should be given to


making the nomenclautre very readable.
If necessary, abbreviate or use symbols,
squares, triangles ,or something else.
But I - I - I Just - this is a real
pet peeve of mine. It's tiny numbers
like - like in the MDA, when I have room
enough to print block letters 2 feet
high, and they print them a quarter-inch
high. Okay, enough on nomenclaures.

PLT Okay, we undocked. I never s_ comfortable


pulling myself out of that thing. I
always seem to - to end up with torques.
But then at - fact is and really the
first time I ever pulled m_self out ...
in zero gravity, and l'm sure that with
training that would be no problem. So,
although I - it was an uncomfortable sort
of marginal control action, I feel
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like that my - my Judgement is that


I was not trained - did not have enough
experience at that task, even though
it's sort of a minor part of it.

PLT Stand by -

021 02 36 15 PLT Okay. Continuing on hand controllers,


and I'll try to substantiate this with
more cc_nents, but I feel that the
type of hand controllers that we have
here- the bar for translation, and the -
I don't know what you'd call that doggone
thing for rotation hand controller, but
those are probably the worst of all
possible worlds - the hand controllers.
I was continually making mistakes, I
had - I had my hand turned 90 degrees
to what it's normally turned to use a
hand controller. I still don't think
that invalidates the observation that
those are not the the way to go. I
would prefer to use dials or toggle
switches to those things, and the same
for translations.

021 02 37 01 PLT The way we have to use them with -


with the awkward posture, and also
with a - with a - with a gloved hand -
I - I Just found them totally unsatisfactory.
So the translation hand controller and the
rotation hand controller, but by far,
the rotation hand controller is worse.
It's really bad, bad, bad, bad news.
I can't say how bad I - I think the
rotation hand controller is. I was
pinching the - the top of the hand
controller with two fingers and a gloved
hand, trying to put in yaw controls.
I was grasping the bottcm flange of it.
In other words, i - I was doing all the
work, and the hand controller, it wasn't
helping one bit. It was Ju - Just sitting
there very mute, fighting me every inch
of the way_ And i - I would - I would
not want to fly a - a - AS_J outside
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the spacecraft with a rotation hand


controller like that. Yeah, it's
really bad.

PLT Okay. Let's see, is there anything


else on hand controllers?

021 02 38 l0 PLT I got to thinking - I was thinking


all during the run, here I am, harping
at the hand controllers. Now how would
I make a better one. 'Cause I know this
thing has been worked on very hard by
a lot of people who had best interests in
mind. Now what - what were I'm
gonna suggest. Yeah, I wa - I was
thinking, first of all, I - I could do -
personally do a better Job with toggle
switches. Now, another thing that I
noticed was I was - I was looking at the
controller instead of what I was supposed
to be doing.

021 02 38 37 PLT I was actually concentrating 50 percent


of my attention - my operator attention
on the rotation hand controller by
actually eyeballing it. In other words,
I had my gaze fixed on the rotation hand
controller to make sure I was putting
the right input in and that I wasn't
holding it too long or too short, say,
in DIRECT. Now, in other words, I
was making sure I was getting a nice,
quick, fresh input and then releasing
it. And when you've got to focuse that
much eyeball attention on - on a
controller, then it - it is no good
as far as I'm concerned. And again
that's - there's nothing personal
involved in this, because I already
understand part of the problem involved.
And at the same time, rather than take an
off-the-season, off-the-shelf equipment,
and I know you - you had'd probably
been dragged up and down the alley,
and thrust against the wall if you'd put
toggle switches on that, but from a -
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personally I could have done a better


Job then they with tobble switched.

021 02 39 Bh PLT Oks_y, enough of that, beating a


dead horse. Undockiug, pull release
lever inboard, undock by pulling on
handrails, fly clear of donning station,
verify all THC c_mmands, I did that.
That was no problem. I - As you
suggested in the message, I tried not
to worry toc much about rates. I wanted
to make sure we got as much of the
run in as possible, so I was more -
or I - I - I permitted spaeial deadbands
to accumulate as well as attitude
deadbands. And that after the undock
when I was trying all the hand controllers
and even to the CAL in DIRECT. I - I
was not very, very - I was not very
careful at all and I permitted myself
to drift over quiet a large area
whereas - Just the other day when Jerry
was flying he was - he was very precise
and kept himself in a verysmall
envelope in the center. Fly to center
of 0WS, head up and facing h32
in data mark. I missed an occasional
data mark. And I Slsologize for that.
I think I got all of them in the first
part, as - and when I start having
difficulty in - firing incorrect
thrusters and firing more incorrect
thrusters trying to stop it, I
sometimes get flustered and forgot to
data mark and I - I'm depending very
strongly on the ones - on the data marks
I did make and on the - the narration
and commentary Jerry was making to give
you your data.

021 02 41 l0 PLT And I apologize for that because - but


it wasn't because I wasn't thinking or
wasn't trying to, but I Just got saturated
there sometimes with the task and
forgot to give them.
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021 02 41 20 PLT Okay, now on the DIRECT pic - the


CAL IN DIRECT. The pitch up, pitch
down, ayw left, yaw right, roll right,
roll left, those were no - no problem.
I - I got coupling, I'm sure Jerry's
cor_nented on them and one thing that
I did do wrong, and I think I did
not fire long enough in some of these
attitudes. And - And again, I - I
want to try it - what I was trying to
do was to - to - to introduce any
coupling which may occur but at the
ame time not hos e away all the gas.
Th - That was how I was compromising
there, I tried to conserve the propellant
so that we could get through the run.
Okay, now I had no particular comment
on the direct, other than to say that,
well, I prefer DIRECT in the single[?]
MODE to give you RATE GYRO or CMG.
And the reason is that RATE GYRO and
CMG require in ord - in order to be
conservative with the propellant or its
power, but, I guess, it doesn't really
use all that much power, but it requires
a continual deflection of the rotation
hand controllers. And that is killer
item as far as I'm concerned. Man,
that really drives you up the wall.
Because you sit there holding the yaw
in and, boy, it really gets to your
_Tist.

021 02 42 50 PLT And again it's - it's - it's Just


unfortunate the - that these controllers
aren't any better than they are from a -
from a physiological crew operator
interface staadpoint because I'm not
sure we got a good evaluation of pro-
portional rate command sort of thing.

021 02 43 03 PLT That is, holding the hand controller


deflected. Because I think if what - if
this was optimized or if it even had a
switch or a rheostat knob. I could have
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done better with that than I could


with the - with the RHC that I had.
So I'm not sure how much of that is
due to the control system itself and
how much of it is due to the - to the
control - the controller. The rotation
hand controller. Translation hand
controller I - really got not a whole
lot to say about the other than the
fact that I hit - I hit it occasionally.
There was another reason. I would have
liked to have had the adjustment
out about 3 to 4 more inches on both
of them. Would have liked to have had
that capability. I may not have liked
it any better than what I have, but
I would prefer to have them out there
in front of my fingertips so that I
hadn,t had to grasp out Just a little
bit. Maybe not too much - but maybe
2 inches instead of 4. But I - I kept
hope - my - the crotch between my
thumb and index finger was a good h inches
in front of where it fit - with - wh -
where it actually rested on the rotation
hand controller when I was using it.

021 02 44 16 PLT In other words, if you had moved the


rotation hand controller 4 inches forward
my - the crotch that's between my thumb
and index finger would have restedJust
on the hand controller. So that's
how much I had to pull my arm back and
put on - in order to get my hand on the
hand controller. On my - on the
translation hand controller, what I - the
way I was doing that is I was taking
my index and third finger - or second finger
on my left hand, and I was spreading
those fingers apart, holding my thumb
out.

021 02 44 h8 PLT I was putting those two fingers in


behind the key and that's how I was
making my - that's how I was making
my translation trick. And again, I had to
hold my arm back, so I was keeping my arm
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and my hand, while I was holding


m_ hand in position to make trans-
lation hand controller. Well, or
course, what happens is, when You're
not making translation inputs, you
Just - you relax your hand, let it go
forward.

PLT And so that - that is more or less


the - the postural procedure I use
on holding the translation hand
controller. Okay, MODE, RATE GYRO,
baseline maneuvers. Okay, started
at donning station, went up to l,
and I think actually I wasn't getting
quiet - very close enough to him.
Again I - I wasn't trying to be
textbook precise on this because again
I wanted to go up and I wanted to go
through the motions of stop rates[?].

_-- 021 02 46 06 PLT I was - I - I satisfied myself with


the - with laying - I was facing the
banjo and all that sort of - sort of
thing, but maybe I wasn't as close as
I would've been if I hadn't have been
sweating the propellant.

021 02 46 18 PLT Okay, went position 2, position 2 to


position 3 wan a fiasco. You'll see it on
film, pretty lousy. Okay, I found that
positioning and stabilizing at position 3
gave me more trouble than any other
one position. Again, I think if I had
thought a little more about it when I
was at position 2, Y might have done
better. I think the tmabilical may have had
something to do with it. Because you -
your cord's sort of pulling the tnnbilical
out as you are going over there and you're
also doing sort of a B-axis rotation
almost. Okay, in regard to position 3
to position 4 in RATE GYRO and I put in
some spurious input accidentally and this
was due to - again due to the fact that
my hand was not in the right position -
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the hand contollers couldn't extend


forward and i got all this congluberated[?]
and threshed around there and wasted a whole
lot of gas. It's got to position4,
was down - I had no - I had no prob-
lems going on from position h to
position - from a start position 5-
I had no - very little trouble going
fromposition i, to position 2. And
an awful lot of trouble going from
position 2 to position 3 which is-
I - I had trained.

021 02 47 B6 PLT I thought I had a pretty good handle


on that one. And 3 to 4 is always
a - an attention getter.

021 02 47 45 PLT As I say, I put some extraneous


inputs in there on the RATE GYRO and I -
as it turned in - it degenerated -
into a - a mess. Okay, then CMG. Okay,
-- CMG MODE was - was done, and I think
that it was not - not nearly as bad.
At the same time I was noticing this
extraordinary effort required to make
rotation maneuvers because of the -
the muscular fatigue involved in holding
a control displacement, And for this
reason, I feel that certain operations
using a - using inserted operations, that
the direct mode is preferred over the -
highly preferred - in fact, I wouldn't
even want to do rate gyro and CMG
suited. I agree in this unit. And
if - if I were outside, actually flying
this particular unit outside, I would
say that rate gyro and CMG would
actually be ... around dangerous because
of the inability to divide attention, in
other words, the - the hand controllers
themselves, - hand controllers them-
selves require so much conscious attention.
They detract from the primary task
at hand and, that is, looking at say,
some object of task and concentrating
on it rather than concentrating on -
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I wonder if I'm putting the roll in


when I'm putting thim yaw in, I
wonder if I 'm putting yaw in when
I'm putting roll in.

021 02 49 19 PLT I wonder if I'm putting pitch in,


when I'm trying to put the yaw in
because I'm holding it like tweezers
with the end of my fingers with -
like tweezers on the - on the top end
of the hand controllers.

021 02 49 31 PLT I Just can't tell you how frustrating


I - to use at - that rotation hand
controller is. Again I think that you
probably destroyed a lot of capability
to evaluate the particular type of l
vehicle in the - the displacement
controller and the rate gyros into
that control because of the
inefficacyof that hand controller. Okay,
MODE DIRECT was a bit sloppy. But I
felt much more at east using the DIRECT
than - than either the CMG or the RATE
GYRO. I could relax my hand, I could
put in a couple of inputs, small ones,
then let it go and I wan't worried
too much about attitude. And I -
Although I did not have a perfectly
level attitude going from seat position B
to position 4, I was much better off.
And going from position 2 to position B
I was much better in DIRECT. Although
I think that I had learned a little
bit on the previous run so RATE GYHO
and CMG got hurt going from
position 2 to position 3 because of
somewhat low skill level on the part
of the operator. Althought I've
done this many times. Okay, then
the grasp and push maneuver. I tried
to go by the book. Okay, grasp and
push started at the donning station.
I must congratulate myself, I did a
beatiful pushoff from the domming
station, had to do virtually no translation
untilI got up to thebanjo.
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021 02 51 ii PLT Got to the banjo, and I made


several fine corrections, because I
was going to have to push off.

021 02 51 17 PLT I pushed of from position 1 to


position 2 and again, I really did
it - a fairly middling Job on that.
Got down there, had my feet a little
too close to the wall there on that
position. Pushed off from position -
and again it was fairly good attitude
control. Position 2 to position 3
wasn't too bad. I - I gave it a nice,
gentle push and ended up - still had
to spend about 45 seconds to a minute
and a half getting my attitude squared
away once I got up there. And then
I'm - I went ahead and did it, although
I should have known better. I've tried
this before. I tried a little shove at
position 3, and that's Just out to lunch
I mean,you shouldnevertry that,
I'm convinced, when you've got that
much of a ... lever offset safety[?],
you shouldn't do that. And anyway I
cleared it all up and ended up doing
frog legs and the - the flow from 3 to 4
on the grasp and push was - let me back
off. And I - but I ended up getting
there and I hit my foot on the food
lockers when I got over there. Okay,
and then push off from 4 to position 5,
start donning station. That was - that
went - that went quite well in fact. We -
Went very well and I got down there and
there was no problem stabilizing.

PLT Okay, crew discretionary. Install fireman's


pole. Okay. I had taken the fireman's
pole out and installed it over by the
R4MD - between the BMMD and the food
locker. Under and bungee so all I'd do
is pull it out
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021 02 53 lh PLT I left the donning station, I


pitched over and got my face off - off the
grid floor so that my axis was
paralle to the grid floor, and I
thrusted over in a roughtly crawling
type posture, in other words my body
parallel to the grid floor, over
to the fireman's pole, Went very
slow, used very little propellant.
And got to the fireman's pole and feeling
real good about everything. And I
did the small translational thrus_, went
up to the dome, got myself in
excellent position after about one
false start. I didn't get in close
enought. I stopped the rates when I
was Just a little bit too far out.
I was about a foot out. Then I thrusted
in until the hand controller was in
about 2 or 3 inches.
f

021 02 54 01 PLT And I want to mention a point before


I forget it, and that is, the hand
controllers themselves were a big
hindrance for that action. And that is a
consideration, I think, if one going
to - to consider doing any sort of work
requiring dexterity and physical movement
at arm length. The - the hand controllers
were out there, and I put in beaucoup
undesired RHC and THC inputs by spurious
deflections of the rotation hand controller
and translation hand controller while I
was thrashing about holding the fireman's
pole.

021 02 54 39 PLT Okay, fi - installing the fireman's


pole. Okay, first I did not get it
installed. In fact, when I took it
up and go when - and seriously before
the run I took it up there and then
tried to put it in. That is hard to
line up, seriously, if I were to Just
go up there and line it up. The thing
has - you have to - you cannot hold
the pin in your fingers. You have to re -
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shove it in sliding your thumbnail


or your fingernail along side of that
handrail. The handrail is in the way
of lining up the pin to go into the hole.
I knew it was going tolbe hard, and
I never accomplished it. I got the fitting
in the right position; I got the pin in the
hole at one time; but I could not -
while I was in the ASMU, I could not push
the pin and hold fitting in the right
position in order to engage it. I think
it may have been possible, if you were
lucky. But of course, all this time,
you see, you're thrashing about and you're
torquing and the ASMU is starting to
move back.

021 02 55 _2 PLT And finally I went to - I - I Just did


not do this in RATE GYRO. I - I tried it
in RATE GYRO, and I did not want to ...
Jerry was rushing back and forth like
a one armed paperhanger charging PSSs,
so I switched to DIRECT, and tried it in
DIRECT. And again,it - you needboth
hands to work with the - one with
the pin and one with fitting on the end
of the fireman's pole, and then there's
nothing there to keep you stabilized.
Now it became apparent to me that the
ASMU is a - is a good device for trans-
portation. But one thing it ain't - it
ain't a work platform. And if you're
going to do anything with the ASMU
strapped on to your carcass, the ASMU
is going to have to be docked, strapped,
belted, pasted or scmething to a firm
foundation so that your body torques
don't thresh it around. Because,
all you're doing is you're going EVA
with two 100 pound grain sacks on your
back that don't help you at all.

021 02 56 50 PLT And that is the ASMU as far as our


• rotational rates and so forth are
_oncerned. I mean, all your doing is
Just sitting there. If you're - if
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you think that the ASNFJ would be


desirable to reduce rotational rates,
you're killing - you're kidding yourself
because you're killing yourself using
propellant, and it doesn't do that
much good anyway. Boy, one good kick
with your foot or push with your hand
can saturate any RATE GYR0 MODE, and
it Just - it Just won't hack it. That's all
there is to it; it Just won't hack it.
So the - the word that I got from my
experience, and it's limited, highly
limited to this one run, is that an
ASMU of any kind is not a work platform,
and it cannot be depended upon. And
you cannot delsend upon doing anything
other than a very basic sort of thing
like stick a pin in a hole that's
facing you under the most desirable
circumstances that has lead in - a
lead in ... and something that requires
very little force. And once you start
pushing the pin into the hole or
_- straight away fr_n you, then you're going to
start going back, and even the simplest
task takes on the all - all appear-
ances of being something that unmanageable.
And you'll grab it and you start
torquing yourself around.

021 02 58 l0 PLT Now 90-degree action would be desirable,


but you've got to have the other hand
there holding it. And that was another
thing, of course, I carried the fireman's
pole up there with one hand and I - I
understood, of course, this is a makeshift
sort of task and Just a exploratory sort
of thing, but you've got to have one hand
on that fireman's pole. So when I want
make the translation correction I had
to put it in my left hand, excuse me,
right hand, and when I want to make a
rotation correction I had to change
hands with it. I'm sure your aware of
that, but anyway I Just wanted to make
sure that it was pointed out.
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021 02 58 h3 PLT So, I threshed around with a fireman's


pole there and this was really, I
think, a fairly poor choice, or good
choice depending on how you want to
look at it. Made the equipment
look bad, because I don't think there's
any way that if I - if I were in foot -
foot restraints I could have gotten that
pretty well, I think. IfI could have
flown the ASMU up there and pulled it
into a yoke of some kind, docked it,
so that it was - it was holding me
firm, then - and also was holding me
in a position so that I could have put
the fir_man's pole in the right
position, I think I could have lined
it up. But Just to consider that
thing a free platform for an operator,
it's Just no way, no way that thing
is going to work.

021 02 59 25 PLT Okay, now, you see there was a hybrid


sort of operation on that install fireman's
pole, so I didn't go back and start over
in DIRECT. Actually, as soon as I saw
us hosing all the g_s out, I said, well,
that's enough of that noise, so I Just
switched to DIRECT and played in DIRECT.
So I did not go _... back ... and make
the second trip. Fly into foot restraint.
Okay I knew that this was going to be
hard because I had trouble with Jerry
helping me getting in the foot restraints.
Well, flew down there, and, again,
flying from point A to point B, it's a
beautiful machine. It's Just - there's
no doubt about it. I had no problem
at all goind down there, looking down,
seeing my feet, which says a lot for
the machine, and putting my toes right
into the foot restraint but Just the
tippytoes. And boy, from now on it was
gang busters. There's no way. It's
hard to get your feet in these doggone
foot restraints EVA, and I think that
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those of you who tried it are


aware of the fact that you've got to
really push sc_netimes.

021 03 O0 28 PLT Well, you're pushing on again away off


from ... again ther . And, of course,
oh, I was wasting gas, and I was trying
to get my ... out in fron of the right
foot restraint so that i could put my
left toe in, and, oh, I was trying
everything and none of it was working.
And I never did make it. Even when
you can your toe well into it, a
lot of times you don't know that your
heel is engaged. Again I don't think
the - those foot restraints are ideally
designed either, but that's that's not the
problem. I mean that - well that was
part of the problem. I think that you
could put you r toes into a given h01e or
ring, then if you know, some - somehow -
somehow or the other you had another
way of c_npleting the entering process,
then I think you may be all right.

021 03 01 16 PLT Once again, in - in - in aligning,


positioning, and so forth, this thing,
without external torque, did a
beautiful Job, very precise control.
Boy, the minute you start applying any
touch or force to an external object,
it's gang busters, forget it. You're
not going to do anything. You're going
to completely bollix the machine. Okay,
so I tried that until it was ob -
obvious that I was not going to do any
that - do that - do any good on that one,
so I quit that one. So did not do that.

021 03 O1 h9 PLT Okay, attach universal mount. Okay, went


up to one of the the dome lockers. It
was actually one of the horizontal handholds
as opposed to the ones that run up and
down roughly parallel to the X-axis,
you know what I mean. And again flew
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right up there, got in good position•


once again I - I was still a little bit
short. You have a tendency to stop
short, because you don't want to cling
your - the front end of your hand
controls. Now you're going to think
about this for awhile, and you're going
to say, Ah-ha he said he wants the hand
controllers out longer the arms out
longer and now he's complaining about
worrying about them getting - getting
too close to things, and that is a
conflicting requirement. Whereupon I'm
going to make the following suggestion.
There's nothing sacred about having
hand controllers that are rigid, that is,
can't be moved and - and neither is
there anything that says that they
couldn't come together in a V in front
of you. So that you could, say, yaw off
to the side a little bit and you'd
have a betterpurchase .... start
explaining myself.

021 03 03 03 PLT Supposing the hand controllers when you


extended them, they'd - you could bend
them together and touch them together,
so that they went together in a -'in an
apex in front• Now, I'm not saying
that this for a permanent sort of thing,
•.. supposing you could do that tempo-
rarily. Okay, this would give you a - a
lot of envelope to operate in there
that's in front of your face. It's not
available to you now. Because I was
reaching out at arm's length and finally
ended up, of course facing down. And
you're working sort of up in - in - in
Just about chest or eye level, and that's
the way you have to do it. But you
in other words, you can pull up
to an object and it's right out in front
of your hands on the hand controller,
but you're pitched down in order to place
the hand controllers below that object
and then you'd have a - an envelope sort of
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out in view of your eyeball s in


which to work without banging the hand
controller. Now, the only thing
wrong with that it that the hand controllers
are out of sight, out of your view.
And I did thrust one of the hand controllers
into the wall, or ... into the wall
as I was threshing about.

021 03 04 l0 PLT Now, I tried to attach the universal


mount. The first time I got it all ...
cocked open and everything. And,
of course, once I'd do that - once
you touch hardware, boy this - this
thing starts moving. Of course,
I sure you're aware of this, but - -

021 03 O4 24
to inaudible due to static
021 03 09 46

021 03 09 46 PLT - - unwanted 8rid um - unexpected


couplings. There's entirely too much
eyeball tension required ... actually
focusing my eyes on the hand controllers
and staring at it, fixing my gaze on
the hand controller and watching my
glove. In other words, the feedback
route was from the hand, to the controller,
to my eye, and further from the hand,
to the controller to the my eye, out
into the environment to see what
attitude change is taking place. Or I
could not depend upon ... automatic
response like you depend upon in the
command module or in a regular spacecraft.
And this - this really makes it difficult
to ...

021 03 l0 36 PLT Okay, now based upon what I saw today


and my experience, I would say that the
machine has still got enormous capa-
bilities translating from point A to
point B, and it has Just about any degree
of fineness of attitude controls you want
to get, assuming that you have a rotation
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hand control that will permit


you to do that easily and over a
long period of time without undue
speed. It is not, repeat, not a work
platform, and in it's - at least
in it's present form and I don't
see how you could make it that way.

CDR ...

021 03 ll 16 PLT As to be the docking capability ... - -

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021 03 22 22 PLT Okay, the PLT continuing. I got cut


off by ground there. I don't know how
much we lost. Nmm, let's see, I
guess we were talking about using the
ASMU for the - in a work situation
where you're trying to do a task in-
volving physical dexterity and l_mh
motion. And I was saying that I did
not think that, at least with the ASMU
flying free, that that was anyway to
do it in task. I do not think it's a
feasible, viable operation, certainly
very, very exorbitative in expending
fuel. And that I feel that like that
AS - ASMU is going to have some kind
of docking capability, attaching capa-
bility, some kind of grasping arms, or
whatever, I don't know what. And course,
I don't see how this is universa]]y
applicable to say different types of
_ satellites,especiallyif they're of a
delicate nature. And maybe some attention
has to be given to some kind of universal
attach - fittings - say that come out
of the side of the ASMU and articulate
forward in some -mnuer. And again, I'd
say, if you do snmething, you know, something
like this that there would actually be
some kind of built-in fl@xibility to
the system like I was mentioning earlier
that the arms - I feel like that the
arms in the ASMU, I've already mentioned
the fact they don't ex - they don't
have enough adjusting capability in length
for me. At least I would like to try
at a longer length.

021 03 24 05 PLT And what you do, is you - you build a


unit like this that ha - has only say
one degree of freedom like the arms and
then you - you rob yourself of flexibility.
And so if you do de - if you do - in the
future attach some kind of fixtures on the
side of the ASMU that came out and were
designed to to receive the different
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types of attaching fixtures, as - that


is the different types of pieces Of
hardware for grasping, holding satellites,
solar panels, attenas, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera, Then - then a lot of thought ought
to be given to making those as flexible
and with as much growth potential as pos-
sible and extension capability - maybe
Just going out say on the order of 10's
or 20's in feet and that sort of thing -
bands, belts, I don't know. I - I
flat don't know.

021 0B 25 02 PLT And I - I think you try to nail your-


self down to one type of docking fixture
and the - the first thing you're going
to want to work on ain't going to have
that receptacle. You can _Imost guaran-
tee it. So your going to go right back
to square i, so I would say you - you're
J thinkingin this directionand that's the
purpose of this, then an awful lot of brain
storming ought to be given to designing
some kind of arms on this thing or
extendable devices which would hug things,
grasp things, stra p on to things, and
for ferric - ferrous metals which very
few things have, and magnets. I
don't know. And _I would even give con-
sideration to using bonding agents of
some kind, at least temporarily and have
detachable pods. In other words, you'd
go up and stick these things on there and
then you would Just cut these things off
and leave them sticking on there to the
thing. I mean, if you can realize the
thing is that you - you - this thing
has probably got an awful lot of
capability - if - if - the other
equipment is proper.

021 03 26 08 PLT I think that the doggone today demonstrated


to me that I Just felt very badly because
I felt like if - you know, if I had
a better rotation hand contorller, I
could of lived with the translation
hand controller, I think the way it was,
although I didn't think it was the best
J
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configuration. But the rotation hand


controller just keeps me blood raw. And
I Just didn't figure that I was really
giving the machine itself, the basic
guts of the machine, a good workout.
And that it's - with those CMGs and
rate gyro and all logic in there
Just going to waste because you got sc_e
gu_with his wrist bent 90 degrees
trying to fly with some 1916 hand con-
troller. And it's Just too bad that you
had to get stuck with that thing. I
think they really burned you on this
and that's why I'm trying to be overly
optimistic about the capability.

021 03 26 54 PLT Okay, but back to the docking thing


and so, I - you know, I'm sure that
somebody's going to come up with sc_e
suggestion if they haven't already for
somekind of universal ball Joingor
some probe and deogue or unit-type
thing that _illwork, and every satellite
that's launched after 1985, will have
one of them and so forth, and not - that
sort of thing. Well, that's great.
So that you can go up and attach to this
thing but then - then, of course, i-,,e-
diately the problem comes over where
were do you, but the thing, you know,
because where do you gonna work on it.
And, well, it could go wrong in several
different places. You might want to go
over here and - and rap on this box with
a ha-,,er over here or this and that and
the other. Well, some of these things
could be possibly could be done from
a free mode but I'm convinced that the
best way to go, if you had the capa-
bility would be_to fly over, glue
yourself on to that thing by whatever
means possible and then get out
oT _he ASMU, physically out of it,
and go over and do the hand - do the
work, using the handrails and tethers,
and then get back in the ASMU. And
I know that's probably raising the hair
on the back of your nect because getting
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in and out of this thing is a two-mAn


operation. And I guess what I'm
saying is it ought to be made a one-man
operation. And I don't know how.

021 03 28 15 PLT Okay, let's see now, cause those are


the - some of thee thoughts that occurred
to me and trying to envision how to -
the ultimate role of this machine. I
don't think that this is to be - this would -
is a usable machine on your own space-
craft. I still think tunbilical, tethers,
foot restraints, and handholds are
the way to go on your own vehicle. And
I think that the - the thing is basically
transportation systems. And in order to
make it usable as a work platform, the thing
is got to be grossly modified.

021 03 28 55 PLT And let's see there were some other


points that I wanted to make. Oh, yes,
I mentioned this to Dave Whitsett once, and
I've given it some more thought. And
the more I think about it and the more
difficulty I have with this rotation
hand controller, the more blanks I
draw in trying to suggest a viable
alternative, I keep coming back to
this idea. As a po - can you envision
a - a suit glove with some kind of simple
electrical connector, say down the back
of the hand, the karate-chop side of the
hand. If you had a - a slectrical
' connector there that came up into the
glove and permited you use the dexterity
that's available inside the suit with
your hand, in other words, in its
simplest and crudest form, you would
have the hand controller inside of the
glove and be working the hand controller
with a free hand inside this - inside
your suit And the OemmAnd would be given
through this connection into the arm
of the ASMU. Now, obviously say,
well once you get all that hardware
in there, how's a guy going to do
anything with his hand? And the answer
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to that question is I don;t know.


It's possible to have possibly vestigial
organ-type off shoot so that you could
actually put your hand in that glove
or withdraw your arm into the suit a
little ways and put it into another.

021 03 BO 34 PLT Now this is all pretty far fetched, I


agree, but the idea of being able to
move - control the input with - with
a free hand - which would - a guy can
order a magnitude increase in dexterity
and - is very attractive to me. Now how
the thing is mechanized, I don't know.
What I Just purposed, obviously, is
ludicrous. I mean you're not gonna have
this sort of thing, but I think that there
may be a way of taking advantage of that.
And the T020 is an attempt to relieve
that problem to - to transfer the task
over to other limbs. And I don't think
that's a way to go either. But I think
J that if we turn ... - unlesswe get better
suits, I don't see how you can make it all
that much better. You're still going to
fight this problem of dexterity in finding
control, and it may be that you can come
up with a hand controller that completely
alleviates the need for any - anYthing
as ridiculous as I Just purposed, that
is having the hand controller inside
the glove or the suit.

021 03 31 &l PLT But that concept, to me, is very attractive


because of the fitague in the dexterity
problems invovled in using the rotation
hand contorller, in particular, and also
translation hand controller.

021 03 31 51 PLT Okay, let me think. The harness, as far


as getting in and so forth, looks like
another piece of cake. As far as self
donning is concerned, boy, I don't know.
I - I think that considerable attention
should be given to self donning and I know
you probably have grave and serious
flashbacks to Gemini times when you -
when you hear that mentioned. But I think
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the thing of the problem is gonna


crop up again, and I think that self
donning and docking of the SMU in a
hard vacuum would be merely increase
the - the capability and flexibility and
in the requirement for this type of vehicle.
And that goes back to what I was saying
about this being a transportation syste_
and not a work work platform.

021 0B 32 42 PLT See some other things that - One of the


things that's very confusing to me about
this machine is the tilt - the contin1_1
tilting and rotating and spinning and
flopping around of this thing you do
when you service in it. And I - I tell
you, I - even in zero g, it's a one-arm
paperhanger contest reaching around, turn-
ing switches off, and all this and that and
the other, and all this folderol and I -
I think that's course I know that's part
due to the practices is a test or
research type of a vehicle. But, boy,
don't let that perpetuate. I think
that we got too many controls located
in too many ver - diverse and remote
positions. And I tell you, I think
it's actually a safety problem because
when you're changing a battery to pSS,
you're turning off the CS_Gs and the main
power and you _re pulling circuit brakers
and you're disconnecting instrumentation
cables, and then you turn the power back
on, putting that external power in, make
sure the CMGs don't run down, and,
man, I'm telling you, you - we're running
around like a one-armed paperhanger.
And so, Jerry and I know I - I look like
a fefrgee from a Mack Sennett commed7
the other day there trying to do all this
and so forth and Jerry felt the same
way today. And we both mentioned the fact
that we Just felt completely ridiculous.
We felt like we were Just ricocheting
off the walls of the spacecraft doing
all this. And part of it was due to the -
to the - rather elaborate procedure
when you considerthe moving aroundthat's
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done, the translating of the operator as it


is the observer. He's Jumping over this
way and that way and behind and under-
neath and turning this off and turning
that off and turning this on and that
on and all that folderol and I think that
what - what - really what I'm leading up
to is, I'd like to have all that service
and controls facing you at one place.

021 03 34 _2 PLT And it should be able to do that whole


and preferably from the front of the
thing. Well, of course, I don't think
that's possible because of the pro -
probable location for propellant tanks
and so forth in the future anyway. But,
anyway, that to me was a major drawback to
a smooth run, at least, from - from our
standpoint and the trouble is you know
you - you - you - one way to make the
point worst is in - is in a test vehicle
but doggoneit I have seen time and time
and time again where it's like the cow path
that finallyled into the main streetof
the - of the city it was - it was Just as
crooked as it was when it was a cow path.
And the same thing applies here, in that,
even though the - the - throughout this -
we did it this way because it was a test
vehicle and that it was sorr of an expedient,
these things -I these things tend to
perpetuate and they will Just - they
will - can they - This is the way they
did it then it must be good then if it's
good now - and it'll be good now and then
you Just keep on doing it that way. But
I think it would be very, very good for
having all the servicing control, connections
and everything right in one small - very
small circle so you don't have to reach
around and so forth.

021 03 35 52 PLT Okay the - Oh, I cam't; I think I'm


about to run out of gas here and I'll
be Just as happy. Let me see if I can
recall anything else. The umbilical
causes the problem a couple of times.
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I'ii be perfectly frank, that umbilical


did not cause anywhere close to the
problem that I thought it was going to.
I was quite pleasantly surprised and,
at the same time, I know that thing is
putting torques into use. The other
day when Jerry flew I could - I thought
he was doing, you know, I Just thought
his umbilical wasn't causing him any
problems and all, and some of those
coupling report - some of thsoe cross-
couplings that I was reporting I'm -Im_st
positive were due to that umbilical
because, boy, it's Just a tiny little
external torque that really square away
that whole system and you could tell
that because when I was pushing off -
doing a pushoff when they were -

021 03 36 52 PLT I was pushing at what I would estimate


about 2 to 3 pounds at the most force and
the thing pushed like that with the hand
maybe - more - I guess maybe even more
than that. It Just doesn't take much
to move this thing. That umbilical's
probably shaking it but I did not notice
any adverse affects from it although
I did get a awful lot of attitudes
excursions that I was not expecting and
I attributed, I would say, 80 percent
of that to operator - incorrect operator
input. And that was an undesired :input
into the hand controller.

021 03 37 32 PLT Oh - Oh yes, I - I've talked about


the DATA MARK button and I don't think
that the right place to put that thing.
And the fact that - If you're going
to have the DATA MARK button, then
probably end of needing a mike button
so it's still - the point is still
valid even though this is - you might
Just say this is a research and we
want have a data pushbutton and the real
item. Well, you're going to have buttons
and, that, I can guarentee you. Light-
ing: One might give thought to the type
of lighting that you would want on the
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f_

ASMU. Mirror, some type of mirror,


tool fixtures and recepticles on the -
on the vehicle. We - we don't have a
recepticle for holding the tools at the
myraid of sort of garden variety ad Hoc
manufactured things that we didn't get
to use on this mission and that I know
have been used on previous missions.
We had no place on the ASMU to stow
tools, and that should be a consideration.
I mentioned the lighting. So you need
lighting not only do you need to light
your work area you need to light your
instruments and I don't think there's
auy problem there because we're always
finding a lighted environment which
deserves consideration because you need
more power as down that thing. Let's
see - and another thing that occurred
to me in the - in the areas of - of
this type of work and that is a type
of white signaling device. They sent
two gusy out in - in these thingsand
they couldn't ccmmunciate, now in this can
see there's second order failure so I'm
not going to tell you, but anything -
Anyway, I was thinking there may be a
consideration given in the fUture to
incorporate in a - at least one control
on this thing that we've perhaps more
or less out of the way but easy to
reach which would enable you to send a
Morse code on a flash or something like
that or maybe we'd have us six or seven
basic _ignals, mounted s_ segmented
circle or sort of a semaphere, four man
semaphore of some type to - to signal
another operator.

021 03 39 58 PLT Of course these semophores, I be, are


not too good because of the orientation
ambiguity. But, anyway, I think that's
a consideration to be given to - to the
two designs. The tool Stowage tank
I think is a very imporSant consideration
because it's going to affect CG and
a lot of other things add it should be
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very flexible. Restraint, that restrain


the tools, can use on deployments but
in ease of replacement and security of
tiedown, that sort of thing, and manipulators,
I'm sure that you've given thought to, but
manual manipulator sometimes things like
that serve, oh, 2001 debts. Okay - Okay
I've - I think I've Just about run out
of steam here. I wanted - The reason
I'm sort of pausing is because I think -
I was thinking there's another thing
that I wanted to talk about. And I
was thinking that something might occurr
to me if I - I Just waited, because I
thought I had a couple of more ideas
that may be applicable.

021 03 41 15 PLT Oh yes, mirrors - the rear view mirrors.


I think they might be advisable. Now I
know they're limited in use but if you
had something up by your head - now, I
know, flying sighters, I use them all
the time, I like - Boy, I tell you, using
the mirrors on the - they could give you
a - a good view at the backof - Of -
finder. I use them a lot and I think
those - those would be useful and can
give - give you a lot more flexibility
quarters in seeing what's going on.
And I'm sure that the different types
of the propellant systems have all been
hashed to death and I am wondering if gas
is a way to go and I'm sure that there's
a lot I don't know about gas as far as
feasibility studies and that sort of thing.

021 03 42 19 PLT Okay, all in all, it was a very interesting


run but it's also very tiring and sort of
a frustrating exercise in some - some
respects. But the - the task - some of
those task were - were very, very difficult
and an extreme test. As far as I,m
concerned, you're in for a parallel follow
_p operating without the AS_ and I was
thinking about the fireman's pole and
the don of the foot restraints, in par-
ticular. Be happy to of course, to give
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them a - for a debriefing talk at length.


I think that if - if this is going to be
put pursued it has to be given a good -
good support and cut corners like using
the old handcontroller like you've been
forced to do in the past. And that - One
thing, of course, that's always going to
bug you and that is that every operator
is going to have his own idea of how it
ought to be done and man how - how you face
that problem I don't know.

021 03 43 28 PLT PLT out.

021 03 50 42 PLT This is PLT with the footnote to the M509


debriefing. One of the things that goes
along with the suggestion regarding a
place to carry tools would be an equipment
tally. What brought this to mind was
the - the attempt to carry the firemau's
pole and this old handhole and also
attempting to carry Jerry around as sort
of a bogus rescue. The inquest upon
me - The desirability to having the accessi-
bility to some volume on the ASMU in
which to carry things. Now the tool is
one thing. One of the other things, of
course, that comes to mind is carrying
replacement electronic modules or some other
device, in other words, some kind of
•equipment. But the problem is, the only -
the only volume that usually accessible
arms is the volume concerning the chest and
very slightly to the right. Which brings
to mind possibly some way of a_,gmen -
augmenting this and having palet that
suit - perhaps it's on the back of the
ASMU that rotates around and comes down
and ... the object now in front of your
face and this sort of thing but once again
this complicates the vehicle and so
forth but, at least, I - I - I feel like
that there does have to be a capability
on the ASMU for a more or less standardized
access like the tools and then for - access
for a more - for nonstandard item like
different types of modules and components.
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Just make some storages or some kind


of equipment that you can - that you
need to carry around.

021 03 52 50 PLT PLT out.

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021 12 55 54 SPT SPT at 12:02 [sic].

021 12 56 16 SPT Debriefing - or SPT at 12:56, debriefing


the ATM pass which began at 12:02.
Building block IA, IB, and 32 were
all accomplished straightforward.
And the information on the VTR, I
put there - oh, in addition to the
white light coronagraph and XUV monitor
also a short look at H-alpha i,
showing what the revolution is first
thing in the morning and that can
be compared with what I put on last
night to show the resolution and
how it has degraded throughout the
day. I 'd like to go ahead and put
another sample on later this evening.
I didn't have much time for observation.
I did go over and look above the limb
and was able to find oxygen XI counts
of around 150, in two different
locations, one above active region 16.
That was at the - near the slit tangent
to the limb or parallel, I should say.
A BOLL of 8183 and another one at 9257
which is not anywhere active region 16,
so think what I'll do is work one
above the limb at 16 and then go on over
and take a look at the second one if
I have time. That's up for any later
observing time I have today.

021 12 57 58 SPT SPT out.

TIME SKIP

021 13 08 50 PLT Now for the TV people, what we're


trying to do here is record the
effects of the trim burn. We've
noticed on the previous trim burns,
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now these are small thrusting


• maneuvers made by the comand service
module. We've noticed on previous
thrusting maneuvers that even 200 pounds
of thrust on a 200,000 pound
vehicle causes objects to move around
because of the acceleration. Now if
I have an object here floating loosely
in space and the vehicle starts
moving - Well, no force is being
applied to the ball yet, it's floating
freely, so it will more relative to the
spacecraft.

CC ... inhibited.

021 13 09 39 PLT Now nn about 2 minutes, we will per -


perform one of these thrusting
maneuvers. Co-,,ander Jerry Cart
is in the command module preparing
for this thrusting maneuver. It may
• be of interest to discuss the reason
for that maneuver. The maneuver is
performed to make fine adjustments
in form of the Skylab in order to
perserve a rather precise orbit.
Now this is important so that we
have - that we can execute repetitive
groundtrack paths and - for the
purposes of recording information
over the same area of the Earth over
a long period of time, several days apart.
So let's start off this way -

021 13 l0 35 PLT Hi, I'm PLT on Skylab and what we


would like to do today is show you the
effect of acceleration on objects in
space. We have our co_d module
decked to the front of this workshop.
This is our transportation system up
to the workshop, Skylab, and back down
to Earth which we hope to use in a
few weeks to come home. CoFmas_nder
Jerry Carr is i_ the cow,,and module
now, and he's preparing in about
1 minute to perform a thrusting maneuver
S
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with four sm_)l Jets in the command


module. They're lO0-pound thrust Jets
and they are used to make very small
and precise adjustments to the orbit
of Skylab, and this is to preserve
the groundtrack repetition capability.
Okay, I 'm gonna coordinate now with
the crew here and see Just exactly how
far away from the burn we are. And,
of course, when the spacecraft
moves, these balls that are floating
freely in space will not move due to
that thrust but they will appear to
move relative to the spacecraft
because the spacecraft is moving.

CDR Time to go - 5 seconds.

021 13 ll 59 PLT 5 seconds to go. Okay, now you see


_ the ball starting to move up. And
I 'm gonna move them back down again.
They should move up again.

CDR' 8, 9, i0 - -

PLT Okay, that's it. All right the


first maneuver is over right now. I
should be able to take the balls and
float them freely and steadily in
space again. And you see it is ;
they are floating. Okay, that was
only 10-second demonstration, but it
does show you the effect of even a
very, very small acceleration in
cycling dust say in a spacecraft which
is no small problem. It would be nice
to manage particulates, that is
floating - floating particles and
objects in - in - in spacecraft by
having some form of artificial gravity.
Well of course we can't thrust all of
the time, but we can do the - the
next best thing. We could rotate the
entire spacecraft and have the spacecraft
extended on a long arm. And the common
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configuration you often see is of


two spacecraft located on the ends -
opposite ends of long arms, in the
whole - with the whole system being
rotated very slowly. NOw rotation do
cause some physiological disturvances
in the inner ear and can cause
Symptoms. But if there - if the
planning is proper, then we hope that
we can obtain that in future spaceerafts
and we could induce a form of
artificial gravity which would cause
the - or give it the s_ effect that
we - as we have on the Earth. So
once again, we have the ball flo -
froating - floating freely in space
in true weightlessness. And the effect
of the trusting maneuver was very
short, but I think it was very dr_atlc
because you could see that all of the
b_11 s arrived time.

021:13 IB 48 FLT So that's the end of our demonstration


for artificial gravity, and the PLT
from Skylab signing off.

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021 14 34 19 SPT SPT at 14:34, ATM pass which began


at 13:30. Pass was nominal, building
block 32, straightforward, building
block 35, straightforward. I put the
H-alpha 2 crosshairs relatively bright
plage and maximized at GRATING POSITION
200, D_-.'_:CTOR
3, which is looking at
nitrogen III. I saw the maximum to be
ca the eastern part of the plnge.
There are essentially two se_nents to
the plage running north-south, and I
maximized on the eastern one on the
western edge of that plage, and figured
I might well get a little extra GRATING,
AUTO SCAN data while moving between
GRATING positions. I did all the grating
positions beside the 55.

021 14 36 08 CC Skylab, this is Houston through Honey-


suckle Creek for 5-1/2 minutes, starting
out with a data/voice tape recorder dump
over ... O_er.

SPT And we did all of the grating positions


and another one half of a grating - or
another one half of a MIRROR AUTO RASTER
at 772, Just to let you to take a look
at neon VII a little bit better and take
off and see the difference in the other
detectors. We didn't have much time,
so I thought it was worthwhile Just
going to a nearby one, which that cer-
tainly was, and, although nearly the
same, that I know does position here
a little bit differently for different
detectors. Got only halfway through
that before 400 K. 56 received SINGLE
FRAME, 4, i0 minutes, SINGLE FRAME,
5, lO minutes, and SINGLE FRAME, 2 for
7 minutes. 54 received essentially
3-1/2 of their sequenceso I got a
little slowed down by the ATM conference
at the beginning, or we probably would
have finished it off.

_ 021 14 37 29 SPT SPT out.

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021 15 58 48 SPT SPT at 15:59. ATM ops. Prep at


which began at 15:07. After it was
run as specified. 55 MLS for the
entire building block. 35 sad
right on through to hO K. If the
coordinates which I used last orbit
in this are ... 728, for ROLL plus 238,
for UP/DOWN sad LEFT/RIGHT of minus 294.
The BOLL was not I080 because after
I'd ... it to 1080 it started teh
sequence of the previous orbit.
Ground may need nu Z update. I did not
try to correct for solar rotation.
And at the sA_ pointing for the two
orbits, as they were the next. So 54,
I did not receive an entire sequence
of 4's, but something over 3. S056,
three ... from SINGLE FRAMES. SINGLE
FRAME 4 and 5, and 1. Each for
Ii minutes. SINGLE FRAME 2 for 8 minutes.

021 16 00 32 SPT SPT out.

TIME SKIP

021 16 12 33 CDR This is the CDR at 16:07 Zulu. And


I owe you some briefings on handheld
observations last night. At 00:30, I
took some Nikon 300 pictures of
ice packs and pltm_es. And the big
bay there at Sakhalin Island. The
Salalin, [sic] S_lkling [sic] - I
don't know what the proper pronunciation
is there. HOwever, were taken at 03:00 Zulu
on day 021 of the year. 6"narlie
X-ray 41, frames 5 through 3, at 5.6,
1/1O00. Ice packs and plumes in the
bay, the large bay near Sakhalin Island.
03:01, I got frames 2 and 1 of HH55 - 9,
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in the Kuril Islands. The Tiet -


Tiatia, or whatever, it is, volcano.
Same settings. Okay, then today at
15:36 was the last frRm_ left
of Charlie X-ray 41. At 4.5, i/i000
I got a picture of Lake Faguihine in
the Nigerian inland delta. I noticed
today the light coloring, that most
of the lakes were a darker greenl One
of the larger lakes had the lighter
green in it. But most of the
innerdunal [?] lakes now looks like they've
got some rain there. And the innerdunal
lakes now look like a very cha1_y green.
And they look rather peculiar. I guess
that's an indication of a lot of algae
and everything in the lake. At
15:36 also I took some Hasselblads of
Lake Fag - Faguihine, and these others,
the inland delta. These are frames
number 114 and 115 of Charlie X-ray 46,
Hasselblad film, f/ll, 1/250. Now
going back at 13:57, I got pictures
of oil fires in the Algerian desert.
This i0 the same area that I took
pictures of before. This time the
wind was blowing from the northeast.
And that same inner field was there,
is available to he seen. The frame
n_mher is i03, was ii plus 1/250.
Then shortly after that, I took two
more frames of the sand dunes of
HH68. Frames 104 and 105. At 13:59 I
got two more fjlm.q - frames of sand
dunes. Along with the red stain _- in
these sand dunes is this red stain that
seems to be mixed in with the sand
dunes, like a deeper colored red has
blown in there, or east of HH68, and
this was frames n_nber 106 and 107.
Then in the country of Chad at 14:02,
frames 108 is a pretty graphic picture
of wind erosion. And at 14:02 I
swung up to the northeast from this
area, also in Chad.
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021 16 15 50 CDR And I noticed a rather red and yellow


coloration, it's a rather cellular -
looking coloration. The - The
boundaries of the cells would be the
yellow, the red would be the cells
themselves. And I thought that was a
_ pretty striking picture. And that
was taken at 14:02 on frame n_mlber 109.
Again it was f/ll, 1/250. Then -
Stand by - Okay, then at 15:32, this
was the next pass over Africa. I got
a picture of island wake in the
Canaries Islands. And that was frame
number ll0, taken at f/ll, 1/250.
And then lll through ll3 is an area
of sand dunes in the Spanish Sahara
and that was taken at 15:34, f/ll,
1/250. And then 15:36 is the - the
Niger - it's river inland delta,
_, Lake Faguibine pictures that I
mentioned earlier.

021 16 16 55 CDR CDR out.

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021 17 oh h0 SPT SPT at 17:04; subject, andheld photos.


I'll start off with the one on the
Hudson _ay, ice. Mag CX 46 taken at
16 :54, f/16,000 millimeter, 1/250th
of a second, and here, the ice was
taken - a shot of the ice over
Hudn Ba was taken becse of the
_vaili@bility and the fact that we
see it, snce our particular attitude,
several times a day. I know it's not
included as a - a handheld photo,
option, but the fact that we do get
such repetitive data on it, and that
it is usually wde open, at least it
has been for the past several days,
makes it something useful to follow.
We did give you a shot of that
yesterday.

/__ CC .••

021 17 65 41 SPT We wanted to get a good shot of the


sout lakeland shot line and the ice
had then moved off that shoreline and
_here were leszl polynyas - plhynyas
going out into the major block of ice
Of the day. Apparentl_ the wind had
kept it off shore, That was the frame
ll6. Sulf of St Lawrence was also sort
of wide _pen and we got some good shots
of that; that's HH-45, taken at 16:57,
sag C X & 46 frames 117, to 121, f/16,000
millimeter, 1.250th.

021 17 06 29 SPT The ice there was sort of frA_,ented,


Just about the sam@_'as I saw it yesterday.
but in - in terms of the size of the
fragments and s9 forth and it had gone
' a littl_ out now from where I s_ it
yesterd_, at least that was the appearance
it gave _e, into about the mlddle of the
gtllf was the !odge ran newbondland on over
to, oh,I guess, some%_ere around
•_proximately iPrinee Edward ISland.

.i,
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021 17 07 08 SPT Actually the edge of it was not


straight, it tended to bow in, the bow
going toward the west. And the
westward edge of the river of
St Lawrence, that is as it gets
wider up there toward the - towards
the mough - towards the Antlcosti
Island, and also the, I should say
the eastern edge - westward edge of
that river an_ also the easter edge
of the island may not have any ice
in contact with them because of the
winds from the west, at least that's
the appearance it gave. Think now
the ice is a little more broken up and
moved a little further out than I
saw it yesterdya. Last - one shot
was taken also on sag CX46 at 16:59,
frame number 122, ii plus a stop, a
half stop at 100 millimeters, 1/250
second, that was of a area in whlnh
there were 12 Bensrd cells and they wer
exceptionally small ones conohtioning into
farily large ones; they were not open
cells they were closed all the way.

012 17 08 36 SPT And I though that the condition between


the two was interesting, because there
is certaiDly {_ot ra single scale for a
closed Benard Cells, their single
characteristic length, but rather a wide
range wo_d be consia_¥ed, and I think
this shows the transition between the
two, The closed one would be more to
the west of the ,.. ones the smaller
ones more to the east than the larger
ones to the west. _ the wind was
from the west, it was off th_ -

SC Hey, Ed_ ...

SPT - easter_ edge of Newfoundland and Gulf


of St. Lawrenee if they might.

021 17 09 26 SPT SPT out.

021 17 36 18 CDR This is_the CDR at 17:36 Zulu, debriefing


teh 16:40ATM'pass, Didn't do too well
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for you on JOP 6 today, referring to


JOP 6 at the beginning which was
supposed to have been at minus 5hO0,
I gave it to you at minus 10,728 ROLL,
and then at the end, I believe what was
on the pad would have said 17: 37,
or 250K apparently the computer
decided differently and I started the
building block 6, the building block
32m again at 17:3_ and a half, and with
about 20 seconds to go, we got a -
a shift over from night - day to night
on the computer and, or by the computer
and it closed the doors on us.

021 17 37 22 CDR _o the up, shot is, I Just didn't


give you anything for _uilding block
32 except - aD_tthing at the right ROLL
I should say. Okay, building block 23
- went withoutproblmes;I got all the
56 work done, I got all of the 55 work
done and the building - and - and the
S054, I got the first 3 full sequences
completed, and we got 21 frames of the
last sequence completed, before we ran
out of time. Did not get a chance to
do any looking in either XUV MON or the
white light c_ronagraph, I don't have any
other c_ents to mack ....

021 17 38 05 CDR CDR out, ?

021 17 h2 21 SPT Hello, this i_ the friendly SPT here


in the ... talking an ED61. Frames on
C"l-_15 were frame 26, 27, 28, 29, and 30.
We used 5 of them today_. And believe
I_got m_st of the major toot 8ysteme
photographed. Okay, let'm start up in
compartment number l, where the real
interesting little fellow is. Seed alfa.

021 17 43 43 SPT Friendly seed alpha has got a root


growing out ot it, at long last, that
goes to the inside wall, bounces off
that, and comes down to the lower front
hand corner. Mere 's" a roo_ here. _ee
_' it? White al_. _he white. Seed Bravo
is the _g perfe_er 1_nd the agar here
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is a little bit - cloudier than I see


it. And I'm not sure whether it's due
to the plants or what. But it is a
little bit cloudier and harder to see.
And I'm using a flashllgh here to
ulluminate it.

CC Skylab, ...

021 17 44 51 HPT Okay. And seed Bravo which is the


big performer got a couple - a root
and - let's see and a stem coming out
of it, which grows, both of them, toward
the front of the stem. When it gets
to the front, it turns green and makes
3 whiffer dill and that's in the top
right h_nd, goes to the top left hand,
and starts back towards the center
and then starts towards the back again.
Threupon it turns white again about half
an inch from the front seed 1 or seed -
_'m sorry seed Alpfa. And that is
coming up to the front and that turns
green also. There's still a lot of
greenery UP there in the two stems,
of seed Alfa and Bravo in the front.
and I might mention that the only
greenery I see anywhere. 2 has nothing
and Charlie AI - and 1 Alfa has nothing
no growth, ..., very s_mSl =mount of
growth in all thre_ meeds compartment -
compartment there. They ell ,are fairly
tight things. __They don't look •llke roots,
they loek more like stems, I guesl, with
a white - not _being'as hairy. Very
substantial - the botton one has got
three of them coming out that branch off
from a mingle one, right _t _he very
_ottom. And -and als0 there's a root
coming out of seed Bravo _or seed Cb_rlie.
And that root _omes toward the front,
toward the light, believe it_'or not,
and the stem J_mt kind of mill around
there in She back. Al_ stem_is on_
seed length long, Bravo is two seed
lenghts and Charlie's got 3 stems each
around ... lengths - two seed lengths.
Compartment four is the big performer
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there and Alfa has done nothing.


Bravo has grown so mych that it's
pushed itself over to the bottom -
pushed itself over into the space
where Charlie was. And looks like
we have all root_ coming out of that
one. But I shouldn't be so quick
to say that. Let me take a quick
look here. Yeah, they all are roots.
They're all hairy. They're all hairy
... and one, two, three, four, fir
coming out of there; all fairly long
ones, one to two compartmetns lengths.
And I will not try to go into pain
staking detail on where they all go.
But ehy come from _he dark and generally
go towards the top right-hand side and
one's s_rong - one going for the top
left-hand side and then back, down
around the wall towards the back.
And I see no stems at all out of that
one. I'm not sure whether it's the
fact that there's no light, or what the
problem ... Every one of those tentales
is this, white, an_ ha_ry.

CC ...

SPT 0k_y, cc_gpartment 5. Alfa, Bravo,


both have _stems - aro_md 3 - -

CC ... we've got a ... for the SPT.

SPT Tell them I'm re_ordlng. I'll get


them later.

CDR .... ,

021 17 h9 27 SPT Okay. A!fa, Bravo both have stems


cnm_ug out of them. They are n_% thin?
hs/ry_ they are white and relatively
thick, about 3 seed lengths long,
each one af them curled at the end.
That one, Alfa gQes to the top and
then over towards teh front ; the other
one goes towsxd the left-baud side and then
"_ 4he end curls toward the fron again.
So in both of those, She ends curl to_srds
the f_ont_ _hat is, towamds, %he light.

. t_
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Let me see if I look up again.

PLT ...

SPT Very few say _bout eompartments 3.


Thought maybe we had some ..,
Okay, the other bit performer oveer
here is in compartment 6. And we
have got Alfa, _%o growth; Charlie no
growth; but Bravo has got roots, and
stems coming out of it. Stem's going
up towards the top and front but never
makes it to the front, turns around
and goes back towards the - the hack
again. The roots - some of the roots
go toward - go toward the front. There's
a ste_ that goes up to the front and
right hang side and up towards the top
nszl stops, Got a root ... three
roots coming out of that thing. One
/ from going to the bottom back right'
and oae very short one, Just coming out,
going to the - towards the back left, as
best I can see. No_ don't even do that.
Tell you what, let me _ust ma_e that
two roo$ structures. THAt third one
was really part of the - the seceBd
one I mentioner. Okay then we got 3
seres comlng out of that ,'at least
one_ no three Seed :lengths _ong, out the
back, curllng _around _ae, :the
b_ck, Then s6_ long ones that "eo_e
out., And I Can't's@e a ;.. on one fo
t_em but it 's -' it 's the back up ri_%_t-
hart@ corner s_d m_,es sOme Whlffer _di_._'S
amo_, i_ there and then f_nally winds
it's !way W9 along the_ right Ip si_e -
righ_ to_ side 'and fln_lly germ up toward
the f_-ont. But it's _not quite looking
at the light_ because there's an edge
in th@re which obscures the light, so
i_'s _till not lo_king at,1_ght
up _front. ,

CC Skylab, _seensiC_ 1 mlnUte to LOS, next


station _, '

021 17 52 51 SPT Okay, compartment 7. Seed alfa r_nly i.


Its'# got one r_ot goin_ to the _ack
, t
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and one stem; CH2 really cc_ing out


of there. About 2 seed lengths long
curled and generally going tou to
the lefthand side. Compartment 8,
it's got one coming out, seed Bravo,
coming out the righthand side about
a half a seed length long that's all.
Okay, now let's express some general
overall _ssbssment. Increase in
green growth in say plant is of
course the - I tell you that the one in
Compartment 1 has got more green
growth,and that's the one that receives
the most light, mo that's making sense.

021 17 53 47 SPT Now, now is there any commer_ on growth


of dirg_tion? We've got kind of a -
tome it looks random - firsthand.
Let me Just t_y to make some sort
of an aasessment and look at one right
after the other. No, I sure can't
say that. We've got 'rootsgroing
In%owar_ teh Tront, we've got them
growing toward the back. :I cna't
se_ amy real preference for one over
the ',other;w_ got stem going toward
the front and some towards the hack.
Now, the !0art - there might be a threshold
for _ensi_g the light gna C_yartment
i certainly has sensed to it. Ands,
now let's Just see -What:thatseeg -
that stems does

021 17 5h h9 SPT Here;s kind of a c_tical little test.


We've got.the one stem wh_h',is very,
long, ikuain th_ front and iJ green,
now it _@m 8tal-tedto t_rn back _d
around _ing _eWerdJ the'upper righthadn
corner q_adgoing b_ck t_ards the top
rig_hand corner, and it's about a
quarter of the cc_par_ment depth back.
•_. i% _n_a VMere the litght is_we'll
see:Whether "it t_s around. And
t_at"_l be interesting tl_in_to w_ch
teh r_extcouple _f days. Again, that's
t_ only one ,test case.

021 17 55 21 SPT I th_nk w_M_nyOu're _ _'i41dy_/'ve had


enough we either '- I _/ess we keep this
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thing looking at the light, but I'd


be all for exposing it to a little
higher light level, and have controll,
of course, we can continue the - the
readings, make a step function change
in the light level, which ever compartment
is convinent can be accelerated
althoug_ this is a painful procems.
Starting to run out of time. You
really _robably have nore than another
2 weeks to look at this before we get
the deactivation list out. Afraid
we'll be off of educational experiments,
so I'd be all for accelerating, what we
can learn out O_ this thing. I'm
sure we cna glve you a factor of
4 more light at least and - and
measure it.

_-- 021 17 56 09 SPT SPT out

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021 19 34 2_ Repeated verbatim on Dump


to Tape 021-09.
021 21 17 50

021 21 17 50 PLT OKay, let's direct our attention


., first to the baseline. Were you
able to satisfactorily aim at the
target for the baseline msneuvers?
And - I mentioned or - let's just say
for the record now that a qualified
"yes" is the answer to that. Twice
I screwed up the transfer or the
maneuver from position 2 at the
on previous occasions, I've been able
to do a pretty good Job on that and
twice yesterday, I had the yaw right
to the left because first off, I
was worried about the film locker and
J I wanted to make sure that - that
i
I got in the position - I - I thrusted
in the wrong direction and I yawed right
instead of left because I knew I'd
aimed over say, toward 400.

021 21 18 45 PLT In any event, I wasn't at all pleased


with my performance on that, however,
that was the only problem I had in
arming and I think that's a - that's
a good - it's a good data point
because everything's completely out
of sight and you don't have near as
many visual cues lime the floor of
the workshop helps you going up from
the donning station up to the position i.
And again the floor helps you in
going down to position 2 and when
you go from position 2 to position 3
up there you're looking at the curvature
of the walls and the floor but the
floor doesn't help you a whole lot
and I found that - that's probably
the most difficult.

021 21 19 29 PLT Well, I'm gonna look k_p the transfer


maneuver.
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,L. 021 21 20 20 PLT Okay. The transfer maneuver's not


applicable. Were thruster sounds
useful piloting cue? Yes, they were.
You can tell when you're unconsciously
or inadvertently I guess, is a better
word put in a rotating Jamd cpmtrp_;er
input. I think this is a very good
warning for that. I certainly - ... if
you would be able to hear that if you
were in a vacuum because there will be
enough sound transfered through the
struccture. But I think it's darn nice.
It tells you something's happening and
that's Just about the size of it.
And you usually have a pretty good feel
for what kind of thruster fines ought
to be taking place sad there is - I
think that would be highly desirable
feature to preserve, if it didn't
cost youa lot.

021 21 21 17 PLT And I don't think - in fact, I think


it's probably - I'd find it very difficult
for you to get - get a - get a - away
from it. Should any maneuver be changed
for the next M509 run? I don't think I'll
have another run but - but I'm Just
trying to think what would be changed.
I think you've got a fairly good spectrum
of activity there, in fact, some of
this stuff was Just too hard. I tell
you another thing that I think you'd
find extremely difficult to do, would
_ - be to put in a astropin or a - in fact
I think Jer was supposed to do that -
hold one of these portable hand holds.
Because any time you don't have an
opposition force, like if you Just went
up to the side of a satelliteand tried
to put an astropin in a hole, I think
you're in trouble,you know, cause it
_ _ requirespush force - Pushing - of course
you push yourself and if you've still
got to hold the handhold it comes right
down with - back out with you.

PLT ASMU controllability. Are transla-


tional acceleration levels too high,
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about right, too low? Well, I think


they're about right. I think it's a
fairly good match, at least, frc_ over
controllers. And I think that you don't
need a whole - you don'twant a whole
lot. I think it's Just about right.
Could you null translational rates
satisfactorily? Yes, but you do get
higher rates in your yogurt because
you have to make - serialize something
real but you've got big high translational
rate. And, fo course, you're going to
expend a whole lot of gas throwing it off
and then that's - it goes without saying.
And, I think, it's an - any we of this
thing out in a vacuum, you'd be going
real slow, where you'd be wanting to go
slow. That - it may be a good idea - it
Just has suddenly occurred to me. If I
was going from my mother spacecraft out
to a satellite, say.

021 21 23 28 PLT It would be awfully nice to have a - a


very crude integrated accelerometer
displayed to give you some gross
feel, say, within a couple of two
feet per second of what your rate was
from, say, a stand - station - keeping
position on the mother vehicle before
you started out to the other vehicle.

021 21 23 52 PLT And this being allright, you could


accept . .. on your order of probably
1 to 2 feet per second, but this would
Just give you a rough feel for how fast
you were going, with relation, of course,
to some fixed ... You had a bugy - you
had a button I believe, you could Just
push up, reach up and push the button
and _ero it in which - in which case
the integrated ability grader [?] would
start over again. But I don't know -
the thing ought to be cheap ought to,
you know, fairly light but, of course,
._ _ that's too cheap from the space program
but I think that would be awfully helpful
and probably would be satisfactory to
have it in Just one axis, say, in your
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X axis. But I think that would be


extremely helpful to - you - it could
be an analog thing, you know. You
wouldn't have to have a continual [73
readout although probably in misery.
I'd be Just as easy with thetotal
of integrated circuits and liquid
crystals, and so forth that they
have now. What a ... display ....
Let's see ... okay. That's on
translational rates. And the reason
I was suggesting that .. thing is
because I could see a problem. If
either the satellite was maybe a
quarter of a mile away, of course,
it'd probably be closer than that,
so you might not want to. You could,
you know, do some quick figures and
figure how long it would take you
to get there using this or that
rate and you could accelerate to
/_ that rate. I'd say give or take
a foot a second or so. And then
when you've got close to that,
that's another gage you could use
to - to start slowing down, which
means this brings up another point.
And I could see the need for some-
thing like a radar altimeter. Again
I'm not trying to get carried away
here but I - I'm - I'm Just suggesting
that if some of these thingsare
thought up way ahead of time it'd
turn out to be very easy to inte-
grate, whereas if they're trying -
you try to add them on, they turn
intm real monsters, you soak up
money like a sponge.
_L

021 21 25 58 PLT But if something like the radar


altimeter, begin in a great circuit,
ring [?] or someting like that,
then this would enable you to,
course, to - to take a reading.
In fact you could - you may
want it so that you could actually ...
the tool something around, to -
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to zap it in on the satelite


or something to see how close you
were - how fast you're closing
on it. The thing is, what I'm -
I'm anticipating difficulty in
depth perception. And I realize
that it may be Just as easy to
maybe paint some lines on your
visor or something like that. To
Judge distance and range and
that sort of thing, but anyways,
that's another idea. Are rotational
acceleration levels too -
when attemping minimum translation
hand controller commaands, did you
sometimes fail to activate
the trusters? Yes, I did,
but not very often and it was
no problem. But the thing is
that you - you want to make
a small rate and you're making
veryquickand sortof rapid
input. And you probably accept
the failure to put in - and put
in occasionally. Are rotational
acceleration levels too high,
about right, too low? They're -
they're right, for - for performance,
they're correct. For the
rotation hand controller performance
itself they're not. In other
words I foundmyself very, very
impateient _in making the rotation
._ attitude changesand, would you
know, rotation hand controller
in CMG rate gy - gyro because
of the fatigue problems, and
because of the spurious and
extraneous and undesirable
input - that occur.

PLT Could you n_] ] rotational


rates satisfactorily in direct
mode? Well, yes. If you -
if yQu weren't trying to be
a perfectionist. Now if
you want to accept a - a
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small deadband in attitude and


be willing to sit there and
pounce the thing occasionally
then it's Just great. If for
some reason or another, you
want to be strictly orthogonal
with some ...... system,
then I think that you may find
yourself very unhappy about it.
But I can't - I can't imagine
what would be that critical.

021 21 28 07 PLT When attemping a minimum


rotation hand controller
command did you sometimes fail to
activate the thrusters
in DIRECT MODE? How often?
Yes, I would say occasionally.
Oh, once out of maybe l0 times,
and again that's - it's a
little thing that you're
willing to accept with that
J_ kindof a mode. Duringthese ...
it was not unduly distracting
or disturbing.

021 21 28 29 PLT During the single axis cals,


direct mode, did you notice
any attitude disturbances
cormnanding translations?
Definitely did, and I can't
tell you. That should be on
the tape ... I should - I
can't remember it. Because
there's - there is coupling.

PLT During the single axis cal,


direct mode, did you notice
attitude rates increase or
attitude Qhanges about an
axis other than the axis cozmmanded?
Definitely did. There was
lots of coupling and I cannot
remember all the particulars.
Brings up another point. Even
though that you're running
suited like this without comm,
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I think that in a space program


we need the capability for a
tape recorder hooked up to
a suit. Even when you put
the stuff on a tape to ground
you never see it again. You
may - may want to make a lot
of comnents to yourself and
I - I can see the need for a
small tape recorder that hooks
right up with your comm system.
And you can put - put the stuff
on tape there. This'd be of
particular value, of course,
in outside work when you aren't
on an t_nbilical. But I
Just can't remember it all,
and I - I didn't - didn't
make a strong attempt to do
that, cause I know Jerry was
making co, ants. And that
was the kindof comments I
was making the other day, in
fact, I emphasized the coupling
features so that he wouldn't
have to. Now I think probably
had one or two of them nailed
down pretty well.

PLT Do you feel that the rate gyro


mode attitude rates and displacement
deadbands are so tight that
normal limb motions cause
excessive thruster activity?

021 21 29 57 PLT Yes, I do. Because of the


cramping in my right arm,
occasionally I would flex my
arms Just to - to sort of losen
them up a little bit, and, boy,
every time I did that, course,
they fire wildly.

021 21 30 08 PLT And if you move your legs,


the same things happen and
I was giving a data mark by
raising my right arm up.
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But you - Jerry'd give a data


mark and the fellows confusing
him with that, of course,
that's - I think he's already
debriefed that. But the -
let's see, when I did that I
also got flustered minds and
that is a little bit destracting.
Do you feel that the rate gyro
mode attitude rates and
displacement deadbands -
Okay, that the - that they -
attitude rates were not
satisfactory? No. No, I think
it's all right. Again that
will not hold you at a strict
orthogons_l protectionist attitude.
You go up and review it yourself
always looked nice and precise
there, and then take your
off the hand controller and
expect for us to remain at -
within 1 degree there I think
you're in trouble. I think
it would - wouldn't do that.
But I was - Yesterday disciplined
_yself to be willing to accept
a small attitude deadband there
and when I didn't get the
precise attitude I was after
if you give me - as long as
it was reasonably close,
I - I bought it.

PLT Were attitude disturbances


due to naormal limb motions
in the direct mode bothersome?
No.

PLT Did you notice 8.ny "leg lag"


during rotatin or translation
co,ands? No, I didn't. I
didn't notice any of that.

PLT Did you notice any motion


inside the suit during rotations
or translations? What about yawJ
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in particular? I did not


notice that at all. That's
a good question, but I sure
didn't and I wasn't - I wasn't
anticipating it, I wasn't
expecting ir or looking for
it. But I'm sure I would
have noticed it.

PLT Did you notice disturbances


due to the oxygen umbilical?
Describe the effects. I
didn't notice them. Now I -
I'm sure that some of them
occurred but I think that -
that I as the operator was
causing mode disturbances
using inadvertent input by
putting in unwanted and
undesired cormaands inadvertently.

021 21 31 59 PLT I was causing much more


upsets than the umbilical was
causing.

021 21 32 02 PLT But I don't think the t_nbilical


really fouled up the test that
much.

PLT Did the umbilical tend to get


in the way_ A couple of times
it did, but we were expecing
it and Jerry helped me get it
out of the way, a couple of
times I kicked it out of the
way with my leg,

PLT Was the absence of the umbilical


influcence noticeable during SOP
operations? Not applicable.

PLT Did you inadvertently contact


the 0WS? If so, how often?
I think probably about three
or four times with my feet.
I think once with the hand
controller doing the baseline
L_

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and I think about three or


four times when I was trying to
do work, the fireman 's pole
and _bout twice when I was
trying to install the -
the t_niversal mount. Let's see,
what else did I use. And I
think that 's about it.

PLT Did you sometimes use your legs or


hands to stop or push off?
If so, how often? Course,
I did in the pushoffs. I've
used my hands not to stop
necessarily but to
certainly to hold myself and
anchor myself when I was tyring
the physical tasks like
- installing the fireman's
pole and the universal mount.

PLT 27. Is the automatic - is


automatic attitude hold needed
for the baseline maneuver?
No. If so, was the solid feel
and absence of deadbands in
the CMG mode a significant
advantage? No, because most
of the time in the baseline you're
menauvering and I don't
like the CMG for the maneuvering
feature - while you're maneuvering
that is, because of the previous
comment. If you are station ...
it 's certainly helpful.

PLT Is proportional rate


command needed: No. Not
with the present system. If
so - If so, was nonlinear
rotation hand controller for
rat_ gyro mode desirable? I
don't really think so. I-
I - I used to be a bit one for
a nonlinear rotation hand
controller so you get real
fine control cose in. Now
/

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if there's a need for it,


then I think you ought to have
it, I - I don't right now
see the need for that because
I say that the - Well, now
it was this - that - I may
shave you on that a little
bit because I was Just thinking
about translating from point A
to point B.

021 21 34 12 PLT If you want a very precise


alignment, if you h_d some
kind of optical alignment
sight in your helmet, one of
these new gadgets that they're
use in tree with the chopper
pilots to aim yourself towards
f a satellite andyou knowwith
how to do it, and so forth that
may be desirable to have a
very, very precise sttitude
control capability. For normal
gage eyeball translations
I don't think it's much desirable.
Well, that brings up another
point, and that is, it would
be nice if you had a crude
optical - not crude ... think,
an optical alighment type
digiter [?] tthat you could 1-
was then fixed inside your
helmet. In other words
to the kind that the chopper
pilots use and have this as
a goQd boresight reference
for some axis, same functionally
significant axis of the ASMU.
These things,I know that
they've used them a lot and
they're very highly developed,
but - and I would say, I think
it'd be extremely usefulfor
detQrmining _Irifts. The
out-of=plane drift, if you
were going rom point A to
point B to - to a satellite
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for instance. What you've


got is a correlated - correlated
sight, of course, and then
these - these things, of course,
accounted are - either they
they take into, consideration
the head movements then anything
else. You wouldn't want that.
But th - the optics system is -
is a- available, that's
what I'm saying.

PLT Is 6 degrees of freedc_ control


required? Desired? If not, which
axis would you give up? Man,
don't five up any. I think you need
them all. Don't ever ge -
give away 6 degree of freedom
If you do, you're really gonna -
really gonna wrap it.

PLT Is proportional thrust level


for HHMU needed? Not applicable.
Yesh, so far at least, in the
exploratory maneuvers is
applicable. I think I already
debriefed the exploratory
maneuvers in my general
debriefing last night. It's
really . .. up on cover here.
Waiting for the west coast
coming up. Okay, let's take
a bunch of pictures. Okay,
the - I debriefed the fireman's
pole, the universal mount, the
foot restraints, and the ...
That's on tape from last night.

PLT EVA evaluation. 42. Would


you feel confident in flying
an operational ma - maneuvering
unit employing any one of the
ASMU modes, direct, rate gyro,
or out to CMG the ATM Sun
end and return?

021 21 36 51 PLT I've already said, but I think


for translating from point A
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to point B even though the


roots - the routes maybe
circuitous, if is satisfactory.

021 21 37 00 PLT I would use direct mode because


of problems with the control.
I would go very slowly. I -
I'm thinking back to the time
that I we - yesterday when I
went over and picked up the
freman's pole. I mentally
prepared myself to go very
slowly. I was at the donning
station. I backed out, stabilized,
fixed myself over and parallel
to the floow, thrusted down to
within a few inches of the
floor, flew over there and
picked up the fireman's pole,
and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
I've already debriefed. So
this convinces me that invariably
I can - I can do something like
that. Now again let me back
off a little bit for - for
attitude control. Like
when I was flying with my
face facing the grill floor,
the precise attitude control
of rate gyro or CMG is a very
desirable thing. But that was
almost a special case of station
keeping, in other words, I
was sorta Just crawling along
as - flying along with my
face a few inches off of the
grill floor. Would you too . ..
this time. I - I would not
feel that if I - again I think
I would feel better in direct,
but I - I would o in rate
gyro or CMG, but I would be
very, very slow and deliberate in
doing this.

PLT Rankthe ASMU modes in order of


preference to the above task and
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state the rationale for your


ranking. I would say first,
direct and then CMG and then
rate gyro. The reason I would -
for direct is for the reasons
previously stated - stated
because I feel like I can -
I don't have to hold deflections [?].
If I'm going to have to hold
deflections, I would prefer the
CMG mode because I would very
deliberately use three separate
inputs for a wh - if I have to -
to perform one with equivalent
to a three-axis maneuver I
would use three separate inputs,
especially ... a combined
maneuvers and attitude and I
_J_ woulddo it slowlyand I'd get
the new attitude ...

021 21 39 32 PLT I wo_ld take my hand off the


controller and then I would
thrust the way I wanted to go
and then I would kill rates to
stabilize myself translationally
to stop ... feature so ... - -

OFTA2E
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021 18 43 00 CDR Lake Michigan looks like it's probably


just a little north - -

021 18 43 13 CDR - - lighter green circulation


pattern - -

021 18 43 26 CDR ... and we'er saying this based


on time. - -

021 18 43 38 CDH ... was taken on an f-stop


of 8, 300 millimeter lens, i/i000.

021 18 43 43 CDR CDR out.

TIME SKIP

021 19 02 49 SPT SPT at 19:03. ATM pass which began


F- at 18:14. Firststartedout the
pass with the building block 32 and
noticed that the part of the -
diffused part of the corona, which
was fairly wide in extent - that's
120 to i00 - was completely missing
and only a very faint streamer was -
faint and narrow streamer was there
in its place, I did not have the
orbit before this. I - I don't
recall looking at the corona in
the orbit before. That one - that
is two orbits back - it had not
changed. Secondly, we started on
building block 35 which called for
the _xact s_ coordinates logged.
And when we started out first thing
this morning, rather than pointing
H-ALPHA l, I pointed H-ALPHA 2 and
called that out because we were not
operating 82B. And that one allowed
us to center up the MIRROR AUTO RASTER
in H-Alpha 2. So we started out with
the exact coordinates we had before
and, of course, the mini-MAR was not
looking at the active region that -
/_" l'm not sure even whether this was
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intentional or not which I


didn't believe it was, so I
wanted to verify it with ground
as we were in ground contact and
we did, and then the pointing.
We also had a new update which
changed our rate our of our roll•

021 19 04 36 SFT So after the first sequence of -


on S05_ where we had gathered
14 mirro - mini-MARs on 55 a
little above the active region and
a SINGLE FRAME h for 12 minutes on
56. When those two were completed,
we then changed the pointing. And
I put H-ALPHA 1 on so that line
13 would go down to Just about the
bottom of the active region• The
new coordinates then were minus 10738
_- in ROLL; plus 138 in UP/DOWN; and
LEFT/RIGHT. I also put some
LEFT/RIGHT in there to account
for the solar rotation.

021 19 05 23 SFT Now while I was running this


building block, apparently we had
a subnormal flare go off. And I,
between sequences here, was looking
in the XUV MONITOR, but not as
diligently as perhaps I could have.
But I was alos running these other
experiments, 1 minute interval on
55 and changing 54 and 56 around.

021 19 05 48 SPT And the net result was that there


was a brightening over there in
the XUV MONITOR which escaped me as
a point brightening. There was an
active re_io_ brightening like I saw
yesterday and that was also evident
in H-ALPHA. And also in X-rays,
ther_ was no - there is noticeable
rise in the image intensity count.
And the PMEC was up, but at that
time we were also going right through
_" the start of the South Atlantic
anomaly. And PMEC, therefore, had the
Tone light turned off, as there's
F

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no real information where you


can get one for anywhere near
teh South Atlantic anomaly.

021 19 06 30 SPT So that one went undetected.


And I think something of that
nature, which we don't have the
X-ray alert for, there's no way we
can get it in, unless it's just a
dedicated, full-time Job of looking
in the XUV MONITOR. However, I
will admit I could have been a
little more diligent and spent a
little less time looking at the panel
and a little more time at the XUV
MONITOR, but not so much, though,
that I could guarantee I would have
picked it up with these types of
operation going on.

021 19 07 12 SPT SPT out.

021 19 07 35 SPT SPT back in again, with an addendum


here. We finished up then with
another 23 truucated MIRROR, AUTO
RASTERS on 55 down to line 13. 54
received a 12-minute exposure on
SINGLE FRAME - 56 received a 12-min-
ute exposure on SINGLE FRAME 4,
SINGLE FRAME 5, SINGLE FRAME 1,
and a 6 minute on SINGLE FRAME 2
for this orbit. 54 received then
over three sequences of M, S, I,
L, 64. So that both of the X-ray
experiments were operating while
we had the subflare but it -
not in the high data take modes.

021 19 08 38 SPT SPT out.

TIME SKIP

021 19 34 24 PLT PLT, at T2, Delta 6 is reading 55-

021 19 3x xx CREW ...


f-
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021 19 36 36 SPT SPT at 18:36 [sic] reporting on


malfunctions in the transporter
08. Malfunction here was while
withdrawing the transporter from
teh televiewer with the - the
supply on the left-hand side and
the takeup on the right-hand side.
I reached in, put my hand around
the transporter so that my thumb
was on the supply side, my fingers
on takeup side, and pulled up
and out. The net result was that
the cover on the takeup side
rotated to the unlocked position
and that the cover came off for,
I wotlld estimate, 1-1/2 to 2 seconds
before I could close it again; so
that there was some i_ ght that
slippedin there. Apparently,
j_ this thingcalleda lock on here
is not really a lock. It's got
an over ... feel it it, but in
no way is it really a secure lock.
There was no great force applied
when I withdraw the transporter from
the drawer.

021 19 37 49 SPT And this is a problem that I have


never - never encountered before
and never knew existed. So, what
we had on there was some of the
M509 runs from yesterday. And
my apologies to the M509 folks
if they lost any data; I'm not sure
whether they did or not. But at
the same time, let me express my
opinion that I think it's a lousy
piece of gear, that would allow
that to happen. It was in no way,
in my mind, a procedural problem;
it was a hardware problem. That,
was again, transporter 08, with
CI77 on the supply - I'm sorry,
C177 on the takeup and C181 on
the supply.

021 19 38 46 SPT SPT out.


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021 19 48 49 CDR Okay, Let's start with the T minus


i0 monitor readings. Alfa 2 is 45;
Alfa 3 is 86; Alfa h is 92, high.
THat's a little bit too high, should
reading 86 max. Bill, are we on the
secondaryattenuatornow?

PLT No, we don't have an attenuator


installed.

CDR Okay. Good. Alfa 5 is 40


percent; Alfa 6 is zero; Bravo 2 is
54; Bravo 5 is 56; Bravo 6 is 49;
Bravo 7 is 34; Bravo 8 is l; Bravo 9
is 58 percent' Charlie 2 is 57;
Charlie 3 is 88; Charlie 4 is 54;
Charlie 5 is 83; Charlie 6 is 47;
Charlie 7 is 50 percent; Delta 2 is
reading 68; Delta 3 is reading 82;
F Deltah is reading45;Delta 5 is
reading 14; Delta 6 is reading 55-
J

021 19 50 25 CDR Delta 7 is reading 10.

021 19 50 39 CDR S192, ALIGNMENT switch is OFF and


the cover is replaced. It hasn't
been touched since yesterday.

021 19 50 48 CDR S192, MODE to READY. READY light


is out.

CDR Door open light is open - door


ioen lightly - DOOR open switch
to OPEN. Light is out. Looking for
a READY light in 60 seconds.

CDE DELTA TEMP PRESS TO TEST and 0VERTEMP


PRESS TO TEST ON panel ll7 are
both okay.

021 19 51 15 CDE S19G HEATER SWITCH OFF light is off.

PLT The weatheris bad. It's - rain


mounting.

CDR Yeah I heard that.

CDR Might get a look at Sand Springs, though.


f

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PTL Yeah, how about that.

CDH I heard that.

PLT Yeah, I'll get my old hometown.

CDH Might look up around Fayetteville


A1 _ Arkansas, too and see what
you can see.

PLT Yes/%.

021 19 52 00 CDR Okay. The READY light for S192


just came on. The switch is
going to MODE, CHECK. Okay, the
preoperation configuration. TAPE
RECORDREM ON; READY light on.

CDR Okay, I did not do a tape recorder


f checkout in the beginning of this
thing, I don't believe, because the
POWER switch is OFF. So I'm going to
try it now, but we're going to be
running at a high speed.
021 19 52 43 CDR Okay. We got the TAPE MOTION. Well,
we're in'CHECK, so we're okay there. Okay.

021 19 52 49 CDR 92 is ON; the READY light is out;


we're in CHECK; the DOOR is OPEN.

021 19 52 55 CDR S191, the POWER is ON; the READY


is on; the COOLER is ON; the DOOR
is OPENED and taped.

021 19 53 01 CDR S190 is 0N; the READY light is out;


we're in STANDBY; and the DOOR
is OPEN.

021 19 53 07 CDR 93 Romeo, STANDBY; READY out;


SCA_fEROMETER is OFF; READY, out.
ALTIMETER is OFF; READY, out.

021 19 53 16 CDR 94 is ON; and the READY light's on.


Preoperate configuration's complete.
f Waiting for 19:59:00 for EREP to
start.

PLT When does Ed turn the ETC on?


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CDR WII, let's see. POWER, ON at 20:01.

SPT ...

PLT When does it go off?

ODE Goes to STANDBY at 3:30.

PLT Okay, you're taking pictures then.


How about squeezing off 1 SINGLE
when we got over Tulsa? I'll
give you a call. If the weather is
goo - is the weather is good and
everything.

SPT ...

PLT Okay.

PLT 0kay_ there's Just solid cloud cover,


i-- Just as advertised.

CDR Yap. One minute from EREP START -


minute and 15.

PLT ... we're really snake-bit on eh weather.

CDR Bill, we're going to want a VTS AUTO


CAL at 59:10.

PTL Okay.

ODE Okay, coming up on 59-

021 19 59 01 CDR MAP/{. EREP STARTS at 19:59.


At 10, Bill?

CDR 4, B, 2, 1 -

021 19 59 I0 CDR MARK. VES, AUTO CAL. 194 MODE


to MANUAL.

CDR That ETC down there sounds like a


rouck crusher, Ed. (Laughter)

/- SPT I'll give you another sample here.

CDR Ah, that's neat.


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SPT l;m not sure that's what it's


doing. It may be -

CDR One n_ore minute and you can turn


the POWER ON.

CDR Everytime I hear that ETC it


sounds like a lapidary rock
polisher rtmning.

PLT Yeah. (Laughter)

PTL It's actually chiseling out tintype.

SPT That's why I always keep wondering


how long it's gonna last.

SPT Converts big pieces of metal into


little ones.
/-

CDR Right.

021 O0 O0 42 CC Skylab - -

CREW ...

CDR Go ahead Bruce.

CC This is Houston. We're with you.

CDR Okay. That's half the fun of


reducing the data, Ed, is putting all
the pieces back together. Okay,
coming up on 20:10:00. Stand by -

021 20 01 00 CDR MARK. SCATTEROMETER;s ON - to STNADBY;


ALTIMETER's to STANDBY. ETC power
shoud be ON, Ed.

SPT Affirm.

CDR Okay. Next mark will be 01:40.

CDR Coming up on 01:h0. Stnad by -

021 20 01 40 CDR MARK. RADIOMETER ;s on. 01:50,


looking for an S191 READY light.
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021 12 Ol 50 CDR MARK. READY light at 50, REFERENCE


going to 6.

CDR 02:00's the next call. Stand by -

021 20 02 00 CDR MARK. 192 READY; ETC shoud be AUTO.

SPT AUTO. 13's the next mark. Stand by -

021 20 21 30 CDR MARK. 190, MODE to AUTO.

CDR Okay, that doggone TAPE MOTION light's


flickereing again. I put those hubs
on good and tight too, when I loaded
that tape.

CDR On may mark, it'll be 03L00.


Stand by -

021 20 30 00 CDR MARK. Went to MODE CHECK on 192;


f teh TAPE MOTIONlight'son steady
now. Just during that high speed work
that the TAPE MOTION light does it's
flicering.

SPT Got a good view of the Rockies as


they come across it.

PLT Yeah, they're beautiful.

CDR Okay, next mark. It is 03:00 -


correction, 03:30. 30. Stand by -

021 20 33 00 CDR MARK it. SHUTTER SPEED is FAST; ETC


to STANDBY.

CDR Next mark's at 0h:00.

CDR READy, STAND BY, h seedons to 04:00.


Stand by -

021 20 04 00 CDR MARK. RADIOMETER, STANDBY. 193 is


goin_ to a ROLL of plus 30. On
my mark, it'll be 0h:12. Stand by -

f 021 20 04 12 CDR MARK. 190, INTERVAL going to 10.


ETC frames, l0 FRAMES PER MINUTE.
Okay. Next mark is at 04:2h. Stand by -
S

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021 20 04 24 CDR MARK, SCATTEROMETER's ON.

021 20 04 26 CDR MARK. RADIOMETER's ON.

CDR 04:40's the next mark. Stand by -

021 20 04 40 ODR MAEK. S192, MODE to READY.


Got a recorder malf light. And the
TAPE MOTION light is flickering .
05:12's the next mark.

CC To me, it's looking beautiful.

SPT Very goo, Houston, I think you


can see the snow cover on the Rockies.
The snow really brings out he relief.

SPT Okay. We're pretty much past them


now. We're coming into some cirrus - -

CDR My next mark is 05:12. Stand by -

021 20 05 12 CDR MARK. POLARIZATION going to 4 on


193. Next mark is coming up at
05:44. Stand by -

PLT Okay, cloud cover's starting


to break up.

021 20 05 44 CDR MARK. 192 to MODE CHECK.

CDR Okay. On my mark, it'll be 06:10,


with an ETC to STANDBY. Stand by -

021 20 06 i0 CDR MARK it.

SPT STANDBY.

CDR Next mark's at 7 minutes.

CDR Okay, we're coming up on 7 minutes.


7 minutes on my mark. Stand by -

021 12 007 00 CDR MARK. 193 POLARIZATION to I.


At 07:10, the ETC will go to AUTO.
_tand by -

021 20 07 l0 CDR MARK it. Next mark at 07:55.

CDR On _V mark, it'll be 07:55. Stand by -


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021 20 07 55 CDR MA_PX. S190, INTERVAL going to 20;


SHUTTER SPEED to MEDIUM; ETC,
FRAMES 4.8 PER MINUTE.

SPT Got it.

CDR Next mark's at 09:14.

PLT I see the Apollo reservior.

PLT Okay ... T 23:45, left 2.1.

CDR Well, did you find it Bill?

PLT No.

CDR Son of a gun. *** cloudy?

PLT Yeah. AT 5430.

SPT Certainly a good view of the


MIssissippi as you come down
here. You see how it snakes
around.

PLT Well, ... the way, I got the


Mississippi side anyway. DAC on.

CDR On my mark, it'll be 09:14.


Stand by -

021 20 09 14 CDR MARK. S192, MODE to READY.


AT 09:20.

021 20 09 20 CDR MARK. SCATTEROMETER to STANDBY.

021 20 09 22 CDR MARK. AT 22, RADIOMETER to


STANDBY. 193, ANGLE going to
zero. Looking for 34. STand by -

021 20 09 34 CDR MARK. SCATTEROMETER, On.

021 20 09 36 CDR MARK. RADIOMETER, ON. 09:50's next.

CDR Stand by - -
f-
SPT Looks like ... a little water down
there.
f

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021 20 09 50 CDR MARK. S190, INTERVAL down to


l0 again. There's a little
burning down there I think you
can see on the TV. It's
coming in at the top - -

SPT ...

CDR ...

PLT Okay. Going back up now.

CDR On my mark at 10:lO, Ed, you


want a frame of lO - FRAMES
PER MINUTE.

PLT 1/125.

CDR Stand by -

021 20 l0 l0 CDR MARK. AT 10:10.

SPT Got it.

CDR And then at ll you'll go back


to 5.1.

PLT There's Apalachic ola.

CDR Is your site okay?

PLT Yeah.

CDR Very good.

PLT Okay. Now let's see, there's


Florida, there are the Keys.
Okay, cloud-free site. There's
blooming. I"m gonna take the
blooming when I get when I get to it.

SI_ Houston, were you able to see the


Delta there?

PLT DACon.... ON.

CDR Okay, on my mark it'll be ii:00,


and ETC 55 .i FRAMES PER MINUTE.
Stand by -
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021 20 ll 00 CDR MARK.

CC Is somebody bumping the TV camera


in the wardroom?

CDR Okay - -

SPT ... it so you could see the


Delta, Bruce.

CDR You got a MALF light on


camera number 3.

CC It's probably the film depletion


light.

CDR I would think so, yeah.

021 20 ll 35 PLT Okay, in VTS I'm seeing the -


/ the blooming that's on the -
right down to the - near the
tip of the Keys.

PLT Okay, I'm going to change m_


location to another area of
blooming.

CDR All right, MALF number 6 came on.


Two out of six gone.

CDR All right, the next mark will be


12:28, and that'll be an ETC to
STANDBY, in about 25 seconds.

SPT Roger.

CDR Coming up on 12:h8.

PLT DAC is off.

CDR STand by - -

FLT Okay. Camera off. Okay ... check


another site ...

021 20 12 h8 CDR MARK. - -


f--

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PLT Ah, that rs a cloud cover.

CDR ETC to STANDBY. AT 54 coming up - -

PLT Here we go.

021 20 12 54 CDR MARK. SCATTEROMETER to STANDBY.

021 20 12 56 CDR MARK RADIOMETER to STANDBY. AT


13, 190 READY is out. MODE going
STANDBY. 13 :06.

021 20 13 06 CDR MARK. 192 MODE to CHECK. FRAMES


going to 99.

CDR Houston, do you want the INTERVAL


to stay i0, or shall I move it
down to 2 on this one?
/-

CDR 191 to REFERENCE 2.

CC Go ahead and leave it at i0.

CDR Okay.

PLT Okay, here we go.

CDR Okay, Bill, we want a VTS AUTO


CAL at 14:lb.

PLT Okay.

SPT Are you still picking up TV, Houston?

CC Yes, indeed, it's looking beautiful.

PLT lh :14 you say.

CDR Right. Uh-huh.

PLT Let's see, I'm finishing the last


nadir swath ...

CDR Stand by -

021 20 14 lh CDR MARK.


f_

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PLT MARK.

CDR VTS AUTO CAL.

CDR All right, at 20, the ALTIMETER's


going on. Stand by -

021 20 14 20 CDR MARK. ALTIMETER_ ON. 15 's the


next one. 15:00.

021 20 14 32 PLT MARK. Camera OFF.

CDR Got an ALTIMETER UNLOCK light. STill


got a READY. UNLOCK light's out.

CDR No new camera MALF light.

CDR Okay. Coming up on 15:00.


Stand by -
/
021 20 lh 59 CDR MARK. S190, MODE, SINGLE. ALTIMETER
UNLOCK light is flickering
occasionally, but remaining out for
the most part.

CDR Charlie 8's reading about 50 percent.

PLT Well, we've got Greenville anyway.

CDR Next mark will be at 16. 16:00.


Stand by -

021 20 16 00 SC MARK. S190, MODE, SINGLE.

CDR Okay, at 16:25 it'll be ETC, POWER,


ON. STand by -

021 20 16 25 CDR MARK. 16:25, ETC, POWER, ON.

SPT POWER, ON.

CDR My mark it'll be 16:33, STA_ND BY -

021 20 16 33 CDR MARK. S190, MODE to AUTO. AT


16:40, ETC, MODE to AUTO.
f_ Stand by -
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SFT AUTO.

021 20 16 40 CDE MARK. Looking for a READY light


on 191 at 16:54 stand by -

021 20 16 54 CDR MARK. At 54. 17:00, 192 -

021 20 17 00 CDR MARK. 17:00, 192 MODE to READY.


Okay, you got a flickering TAPE
MOTION and a fla - had a flash
of the recorder MALF ....

CC i0 seconds to LOS ; see you over


the Vanguard in 12 minutes. Out.

CDR So long.

SPT It looks like we're getting


a good view of Venezuela. Looking
/" for some fault systems along here.

CDR Next mark's at 17:42.

CC Venezuela is booming in here


loud and clear.

SPT Very good.

CDR Coming in 42. Stand by -

021 20 17 42 CDR MARK IT. 192 to MODE, STANDBY.


18:14 is next. Okay, you got
an ALTIMETER UNLOCK light, now
I might as well go to STANDBY
and leave it there. ETC to
STANDBY, Ed, at 18:14.

SPT Okay.

CDR STAND BY -

021 20 18 13 CDR MARK. ETC to STANDBY. Okay, I'm


going to leave the EREP - leave
the EREP STOP switch to START
in or4er depleat the S190.
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SPT Hey, Jerry, talk on the VTR just


a moment.

CDR All right. The light's already


on. Wonder if the ground's
rewinding or something.

SPT Ah, that's a shame because we got


some - all kinds of forests - or
small plumes are burning down
there in Venezuela. And I'd like
to pick it up for them.

CDR Let's see we're LOS. Oh, what they


did was Just set it to rewind.

SPT Yeah.

CDR Son of a gun.


f
SPT I think I'll see if I can get some
... film.

021 20 19 14 CDR Okay, I'm gonna shift the - are


we still over land?

PLT Yeah.

CDR All right S190 is going at l0 ***


One frame every ten seconds to
depl@at it.

PLT You're getting god stuff. I mean


you're getting data over Brazil.

SPT Yeah.

021 20 19 56 CDR Well, I'm gonna go to EREP,


STOP. I think it'll still 1_ake
pictures. Got a mall light on
5 now. What time's Z-LT, Bill.

PLT At 28.
f
CDR Lot of time.
F

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PLT 20:28. Okay, we're over water


now.

CDR Okay, still got three magazines


not depleted yet.

PLT Wait a minute. We're - we're


still over land.

021 20 21 05 CDR Very good.

PLT Camera still clicking away?

CDR Yeah, it's got three more frames


it hasn't changed yet - cameras
l, 2 andh.

PLT I think you do have the - the EREP,


START switch on, Jer.

CDR Well, it's still clicking. The


reason why I said turn it off, it
says right here in magazine
depletion, once you get the sequence
started, it appears you can turn off
the EREP.

021 20 21 33 PLT I see.

CDR Yeah, it's still clunking along every


l0 seconds. This way I'm not burning
up tape.

FLT Yeah.

CDR Okay, Bravo 7 is reading 33 percent.


S192, DOOR switch to CLOSED,
Waiting for 1 minute. DOOR CLOSED
light.

PLT The S191 water site. We're near Key


West Just to the southeast of the
tip of Cuba - off the island of Cuba
and another one out in the open
F Caribbean.And I did not see the
eddy that was referred to in one of
our _ps pads.
f

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CDR Oh, yeah, the vis ops pad. i,


2, mad 4 and still no MALF light.
Still clunking away. I have a
DOOR CLOSED light on S192.

PLT 4 just went empty.

CDR There's a 4 light. 1 and 2 still


cooking. Okay, Bill. Could you
give me a VTS AUTO CA1 and a mark.

PLT Stand by -

021 20 23 42 PLT MARK.

CDR Okay.

021 20 23 53 CDR All right, SCATTEROMETEE, POWER's


going OFF; RADIOMETER POWER's
/ going OFF; ALTIMETER, POWER OFF;
19h, POWER, OFF. Okay, got a MALF
light on 2. Number 1 is the only
one left. We must be out over the
water now, aren't we?

PLT Yeah.

CDR Okay, we're getting back into a time


when we can see the Falkland Current.
*** hit that part of South America
in the daylight again.

021 20 2h 32 CDR Okay, I'm going off the recer ***

021 20 29 20 SPT SPT at 20:29. Handheld photo on


MAG CX h65 taken at 18:21, frame
123, f/ll, 100 millimeter, 1/250.
This smoke plume over Venezuela
right close to the boundary by
Colombia.

021 20 30 43 SPT To the best that I can recollect


now, I would say that the plumes were
blowing to the west, although that
doest not ms/ke sense but in trying
to view ... during this Z local
vertical pass, the directions became
f

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a little disoriented. There were


about seven to nine sources.
They were scattered out over a wide
area of about 2 or 300 miles. All
gray smoke. And I suspect it
was some type of burning - splash
burning perhaps. Done purposely
because - because they were so
widely isolated. And I got an oblique
view, unfortunately. I tried to get
the - right on top of it when we
we - when we were there with the
TV camera, but only to find out
that the - video tape recorder was
in rewind. So I was hoping to give
the ground a good look at it on the
vidQo tape recorder right after we
finish our pass with the ground
using the TV.
r/
021 20 32 04 SPT SPT out.

TIME SKIP

021 20 XX XX PLT Okay this is the PLT, debriefing the


M509, starting on page 33-5. ASMU
maneuverability. Question l, in
which mode was the baseline maneuver
easiest to fly, and why? Okay,
baseline maneuvers was - maneuver
was easiest tc fly in direct,
because of the difficult in holding
control - rotation hand controller
deflection for rates in rate gyro and
CMG. Mainly a yaw problem, but it
is aGtual physical fatigue and
cramping and actual pain associated
holding yaw controller out of detent.
And, of course, the - the one - let's
see position one, two, three. Going
from position 3 to position 4 is an
excrciati_g sort of maneuver for me.
And part of that was due to the fact
z- that I couldn'tlengthenthe arms as
f

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much I would - as I would like to have


done. And I've covered that in a more
general topical debriefing which
I put on tape last night so as
not to forget some rather -what
I thought were so - well, they may
not be important - some other
significant comments to make about
general philosophy. So that was
the main reason - is - the reason
that I liked direct was that I could
put the input in and then release
the hand controller and my wrist
wouldll't go to sleep on me or wouldn't
cramp.

021 20 I0 47 PLT Is it - if - okay that answers that


question. In the free style maneuver -
where the - am I on the right one?
f Let's see here. 33-5, I thought you
said. Is that the right - let me
make sure that I'm - 33"11, is that
it? Huh - Huh - HUh - Huh - HUh.
Okay. Hum_ Let me take a look at this
Just a second.

021 20 12 28 PLT Okay. On 33-11, now. I'm pretty sure


that this is the one that applies. If
it doesn't, you can tell me .... I'll
start off there. 0ould you fly the
baseline satisfactorily in all modes?
Any modes deficient? Which ones and
why? I think I Just covered that, rate
gyro, CMG were difficult to fly
because of the physical and physiological
problem involved in holding the yaw
out of detent. And that was the worst
one, but it also applies to pitch and
roll. So rate gyro and CMG were
deficient in that respect. I've already
gone into gory detail on that. Let's
don't waste any time on that.

021 20 13 ii PLT In which mode was the baseline maneuver


easiest to fly? Direct, for the reason
stated Just a few moments ago. Did
you feel comfortable flying some modes
f

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faster than others? Which ones and


why? Actu_lly, what we - it depends
on what you mean. I assume you mean
translational rates faster than others.
In that case I would feel better making
translations in CMG or RATE GYRO MODE
divorcing my attention from attitude
and - attitude control and using the
handeontroller to - to capture the
spsee envelope on - the target envelope
I'm after. If you're talking about
faster rates then I would feel much
better, I think, using DIRECT because
I would feel I would be less likely
to make controller error inputs.

021 20 14 ii PLT Another thing too, when you're


holding the control ... say you want
to pitch in RATE GYRO or CMG, you
f. hold the controller so you put it in
pitch. Then you go from 20 to 30 degrees;
your hand starts to tire, and you don't
quite notice that some of muscles are
strongerthanthe othersand - and
all of a sudden you start unconsciously
or just unknowingly putting in a little
bit of left roll. Well as you're firing
you may be expecting to hear a couple
of thrusters firing now and again,
although ,.. you know, just stuff used
to take out coupling effects. So you
don't really notice the fact that you're
putting in roll until it's progressed
more than you'd like. So I don't -
I don't - I wouldn't like to hold - I
just don't like the hold rate in
RATE GYRO or CMG.

021 20 15 O1 FLT Was precision station keeping easier


in some modes? Which modes - which ones
and why? Okay, now for precision
station keeping RATE GYRO and CMG
are the best. There's no doubt about
it. If you - if once you get up there
and get the attitude and let - take
your hand off the controller - off
f

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the rotation hand controller, then


it's not a bad Job because you know
you got slow translational rates
and you go ahead and kill them off with
your translation hand controller
using the two fingers of the left hand,
and that's not too bad. So, but
that's sort of - that - that is true;
station keeping is much better in
cow,hand - in CMG and RATE GYRO.

021 20 15 40 PLT Did some modes take more attention


to flying than others? Which ones
and why? Yes, RATE GYRO and CMG
take - take more in dy_am_ c maneuvers,
because of the - for us requiring the
hold the rotation hand controller out
of detent, and preferably, of course,
at a ... deflection because you keep
f varyingit - or you - you keep requiring
more propellant in RATE GYRO MDDE, and
I assume it's not desirable in CMG,
although, I beleive l'm pretty sure.
But in any way it's still not a good
technique ... continually releasing and
slopping around. And that has to do
mainly with attitude maneuvers, but
those that can be a couple - a problem
coupled with translation and it - and
it eompounds the problem when you are
trying to make attitude corrections
while you're translating in that you -
you're dividing your attention between
watching your space envelope, or the
target position you're going after, and
you're trying to take and maybe small
coupling errors that have oecured in
attitude. And if you're doing this in
the CMG or the RATE GYRO, you preferably
want to put in a small deflection and
hold it until you get to where you want
to go and then release it. As I said already,
that's - that's a hard job. So when
i

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it's a couple - mean ... to say


it's a controlled translational -
rotational problen. I think ... much -
much more likely _o make his own ...
with the rotation hand controllers in
CMG and RATE GYR0

021 20 17 06 PLT Were you able to l_atisfactorily aim at


the target for t}_ transfer maneuver?

Baseline maneuvez _
021 20 17 14 Inaudible due to s_atic.
to
021 20 17 57
i

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021 21 52 15 PLT PLT here. Time is 21:52. Just


completed the pass down the - the
west coast of the U.S. I will be
reporting the photographs - Well,
I might as well go ahead and report
them now. But what I wanted to tell
you about is I have seen a patchy, long
linear surface feature on the water I
would say about 50 miles out to sea from
the Bay of Fonseca, and it's almost
parallel to the coast. The -
let me get the exact coordinates here.

021 21 53 13 PLT 12 degrees north about 88-1/2 degrees


west, and this was a patchy but
generally linear surface phenomenon
and it was a dark red almost brownish -
reddish brown color, resting on the
surface of the water. And let's see,
that was - oh, I'd say maybe 35,
i00 miles out to sea. And then - oh, in
about - oh, say another 30 miles
in closer, there was a sort of a
general smokey polluted-appearing
feature on the surface; was much
wider, about the same length, say
on i00 - on the order of i00 miles
in length and maybe 25 miles wide.
And the red thing that I saw the
sort of long linear thing, patchy
but generally all together was I
would say, on the order of i00 miles,
maybe 150 miles long with only about
5 - oh, I would say less than 5 miles
in width in the widest dimension. But
it was the - really stood out like
a sore thumb right on the surface of
the water and the location I have given
you is probably correct within 25 to
maybe 50 miles; I'm not real good at
judging the distance there.

PLT Now let me give you the photographs.


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021 22 00 08 PLT PLT continuing, frames 124,


frames 12h through frame 154. So
i took 30 frames of Hasselblad as
we came down the west coast extending
down to, oh, about 300 miles into
Mexico, and that was all taken on
Hasselhlad, magazine Charlie X-ray 46.
F you - let's see; was f - between f/8
and f/ll f-stop setting, at 1/250
using 5-second intervals for stereo
pairs.

021 22 O0 50 PLT PLT out.

TIME SKIP

021 22 12 12 SPT SPT _t 22:13; ATM ops, orbit which


J--- began at 21:22. So I came up and I
started the building block 32 and
looked at the Sun, saw the - a lot of
the enhancement in H-alpha and XUV over
in active region 31. Went over and
took a look at that actually before
we started the 32. Saw it was high;
elected to remain there and did so
for a few minutes and saw it start to
drop off. We had no X-rays associated
with it at that time. The PMEC was
relatively low. Oxygen VI was about 10,000
to 20,000; I don't recall the exact
figure, but closer to 10. I'm not sore -
I will be sure whether a flare had
happened or whether it was just a
enhancement in the active region which
was long term; that is, not a rapid rise.

021 22 13 34 SPT So I went to Sun center, got the building


block 32 and started and then took a
look at the corona to be see whether it had
had any effect on that. I could not
notice anything other than what I've
already pointed out on the previous
orbit as a slgDificant change. But
it had not changedthe previousorbit.
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Went back to the - to active


region 31 and saw that the oxygen VI count
was now - it was a little bit higher
than we had it before and after I
figured out a reasonable roll, we got
settled down to a flare wait.

021 22 14 16 SPT I gave - started 55 off on some MIRROR, AUTO


RASTERs down to line 13. And the
oxygen VI count was around 20 to 25
and holding at the brightest point.
And I recall one of their desires at
one time when we had a bright point
w_s to get a GRATING, AUTO SCAN of it.
I was somewhat reluctant to do this,
but figured well, as long as I could
keep in mind what are some good places
to stop along the way in case we do
- get a rise. That is, what positions
on the grating - I could go ahead and
at least give 'em one. So we gave
them one GRATING, AUTO SCAN. When we got
done with the GRATING, AUTO SCAN, the
count was higher - about 26,000. I -
I don't recall any such figure when we
got done, but it was a little higher
than when we started.

021 22 15 l0 SPT 82B also I started in a WAVELENGTH,


SHOR_. I thought was l/h; it turns out
to be h. I think it's number 3 that
our ... So we got essentially the first
two exposures, and I cut off the third
one. I started 54 - first of all I
glanced at the pad when we first came
and saw the sequence GRATING, IN and I've
beeD so used to doing a M, S, 0, L, 64
all day long, I thought we were in
for another series of those and did not
have time to pull out the JOP Sun_nary
Sheet and look at it. So I thought
they had it in their budget to do that.
Thought they might as well be getting
some data of that type while we were
waiting for a flare; however, of course,
it turned out that they only had two -
k

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two 56 exposures. I thought they


wanted to run into that mode; all you'd
have to do to - to get into the
flare mode is change one rotary surtch and
get a start - a stop and a start. So
that ... call from ground and there's . ..
that we went into the flare wait.

021 22 17 07 SPT 56 - I gave three PATROL, SHORTs there


before the 30 minutes TIME REMAINING.
And then I gave one at 27,22 at around
8 minutes remaining. 55 we kept the
MIRROR, LINE SCAN all the time.
And as you saw, the oxygen VI counts
were way up. Correction, on two
occasions I stopped and put the MIRROR
off the 1033 and on the first occasion
confirmed that we were on the brightest
point; the second time the brightest
point had moved one to the right, as
I saw it at the ten. Well, now, as
a matter of fact, I don't recall whether
it was 1034 or i032_ but it was one
in a lateral direction which - that they
were still covering it with the MIRROR,
LINE SCAN. So I - good news and bad news.
We got some activity going but bad news
being that we missed the real big one.
But it still - still looks like it might
he able to come up with something, so I'll
see that we hang in there for the rest
of the day.

021 22 18 42 SPT SPT out.

021 22 25 17 PLT Okay, PLT here, continuing the M509


debriefing, l'm on page 33-15, question 42.
Would you feel confident in flying an
operational maneuvering unit employ -
employing any one of the ASMUmodes
out to the Sun - ATM Sun end and return,
and I think I've answered that question
the previous ... up here. And I would
like to point out that I feel that the -
a better way - If you're Just posing
this as a hypothetical question, it's
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a good question. If you're -


you're posing it as a replacement of
crawling out there using handholds, I
think that that's not the way to use
the ASMU. I think I've already covered
that in my general debriefing. But I
think it's a much more safe, satisfactory,
efficient, and otherwise gratifying
exercise to actually use hand rails
and hand holds, to crawl out using your
arms. If you - you're posing that as a
typical - for the task, for compari -
comparison since we do have some EVA knowledge
of that, then I think it's a very
good question in that we could - we
know the difficult in getting out there
and back and whether or not we would
be willing to - let's say take the
ASMU now I ... just think there's no
problem at all, and I think that -
of course, I already mentioned the fact
that I think that one would want to get
new - new types of hand controllers before
you started this.

021 22 26 41 PLT Rank the ASMU modes in order of


preference for the above task and state
the rationale for your ranking. I -
I think I did that previously. Do you
feel - I don_t know anything about the
HHMU other than I think that's a very
bad way to go. I think it's - if you
had that to get get home on, to pull
yourself on, I think it might not be
a bad idea. But I think the thing
ought to be rede - completely redesigned,
and it ought to - to have - have
something on the long - on the end
of the long pole like the - the
rockets that fire on the - launch
escape system of the command module,
or like the thing that's on the Russian
spacecraft. The nossle that's sort of
directed out in a cone angle downward
and put that thing out and point it
the way you want to go. Like getting
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ready to harpoon a fish -


spearing fish, and then fire it. And -
Count on something else - in other
words have that as your primary tractor,
your primary means of translation. In
other words, I'm not trying to design
HH_J _ forget that. I just think
that the way that thing is designed is
really terrible.

PLT I'm going to drop that one 'cause I'm


afraid I'm not qualified. I haven't
tried the HHMU all that much. What
sort of EVA tasks do you feel the ASMU
could be used for? I think that going from
point A to point B, and to carry yourself
plus tools and spare parts, equipment,
and the returning same is the way the
ASMU would justify its existence.

021 22 28 25 PLT And if you had an enormous vehicle


like Skylab where umbilicals couldn't
reach or that there was some safety
reason for not going there or using the
handrails I could envision the possible
use even on Skylab, and I just theorize
here, supposing that there were some way -
for instance, that he had a problem in the
radiator on the aft end of the Skylab,
and you knew that by taking some crimping
tools you could go out there and crimp
and stop off the flow in say a loop.
Or you know, do something that was simple.
Not go out there and re - redesign
the radiator, but just go out there and do
some work. Then if it was a very simple
thing that required no push-pull,
opposition type forces. Any forces that
could not be contained by the individual.
Now for instance, l'm thinking of a - sort of
task that - that could be done using
the ASMJ as a work station, would be the -
would be the sort of thing that - You've
seen these big long-handled wire cutters
that could cut steel rods and that
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sort of thing. If a guy was just


reaching out and with - moving it with
both hands on this thing, and wasn't
pushing or pulling on the other item -
he was Just contacting it and putting
sheer force on it, and all of the forces
were contained with his body, then I
think we could do something like that.
The minute you start touching the
other thing, the pull, push, torque,
twist, or anything else the - you're -
you're out of business using the ASMU as a
work platform until you nail the thing
down with some kind of docking or
glueing mechanisem, something that attaches
it to the other primar structure.

021 22 30 09 PLT Let's see. Use Skylab examples if


possible. That was my Skylab example. I -
using another Skylab example, the repair on
the - the S183 - that's not right. The
doggone - the 193, excuse me. The
radam antenna mechanisem - I'd - had an
idea at the first part of the mission.
I think that the ASMU would have been -
Just been perfectly useless. Except to
Jerry, the foot restraint over there it -
yes it had a problem, you see, of -
of being over there in that there was some
sort of intervening grid work which
prevented cr_nene [sic] from crawling
through there. Then he could fly his
ASMU over to a point where he could
place - implace the foot restraint. Again,
I don't think - his putting foot restraints
in where the ASMU would have been highly
marginal as a work platform for doing that
simple task itself.

021 22 31 16 PLT But once the foot restraints were in,


then I would have used the foot restraints
through the 19 points and continued to
work, leaving the ASMU idl or at least
docked while I did the work ... and then
o" .

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I would return to the AS_; and use


that as a transportation system back.
But, ... using the - that repair, and
19B repair as an example, I'm -
I'd say that you are probably 50 orders
of magnitude away from gaining the
capability of - that we had which
is moving around holding on to pieces
of structures. It's - it's - It's
Just no way that that ASMU would have
provided us the work platform that we
required for the task. But, we were
thrashing all around there - -

CC ... we'll see you again at Goldstone - -

PLT How about the HHMU? Again, I - I -


I don't feel qt_lified to discuss that.
Do you feel that the ASMU, if it was
EVA qualified, could have been used for
the Skylab 2 CSM flyaround? Oh, very
definitely. As I said, flying from
point A to point B as long - long as
you don't touch anything it's great.
... simply you go out there and you Just
look, you can take pictures, anything.
As long as you don't touch anything then
you're in great shape.

021 22 32 38 PLT Okay. What about the FAS deployment? Okay.


No, I - Again, I didn't do the FAS
deployment but, again, if - if you could
have gone out there and you knew you
could have gotten to a place where you
could have installed with ease a foot
restraint, then I'd say the ASMU would
have been - would have justified it's
existence. Because, if I remember
corr@ctly, Pete and Joe had an awful lot
of trouble getting to the point. And -
getting to the place, because there are
no handrails back there. If there had
been handrails, then that would have been
the way to go. They'd leave the ASMU
inside, leave that, you know - In other
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words, use the ASMU to best - in it's


best role. What about - Any preference
in the future. I don't think you could
have used it for work. I flat don't
think you could have used it. You may
go over and loop - say, loop a strap
through something and tie a knot in it, tie
a knot from the strap very carefully and
slowly and meticulously without putting
torques in your ASMU and I think that
would put a variety of platform,
and then you could have threaded the -
the rope or strap back to a point in
there where you could have either
docked or handed it to another crewman
who was standing there in foot restraints.
Now there, is a good application I think,
of the ASMU, but as far as tying it on
there and then hoisting away with the
thruster there trying to pull that thing
out. Before you do anything like that I
think you really ought to launch.

021 22 34 i0 PLT But, I think that again, this is based


on my true - my experience yesterday
with the universal handhold. If I can
put that on the radial, I'm certain I
could have gotten up there and I could
have tied a rope or a strap around the
handrail. In faot, that would have been
a good thing to do. If w_ do another run,
I think that that just doing a simple
task of tying or looping a strap around
a handrail, putting a knot on that and
threading it out - And, of course,
this is what you had in mide - in mind
with the soft fireman's pole. And that -
that sort of task I think we can do. But
you just can't put any torque or force on the
doggone ASMU at all, Do you feel that the
ASMU, if i% was EVA qualified - Okay,
terminating voice recording. All right, and
I hope this answers the questions. If it
doesn't - If it doesn't give me an update,
and I'll go to another page.

021 22 35 O0 PLT PLT out.

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021 23 h9 52 SPT BPT at 23:50. ATM pass which


began at 21: - correction - make
that 22:54. Okay, I'll give
you the s_quence of events. As
soon as it came around the
corner, active region 31 apparently
had a subnormal flare and it
looked intensely bright in
H-ALPHA. I went over and
looked at it, this was when we
were still below 400 K. As
soon as we had come up from
the - below 250 K almost
60 minutes remaining in the day.
And we had the oxygen VI count
pegged high at 60. Pegged
because I noticed that it wasn't -
it was both - they were both
above 60 even, so I think that
- mightbe the limitof the
detector.

021 23 50 58 SPT And - tha_ - started to decrease


slowly. It was on the way
down and I thought well, we've
missed it. With some reservation,
I went over to Sun center and
did _ building block 32, while
keeping an eye on it. The
X-RAY count was not up to
PMEC or IMAGE INTENSITY.

021 23 51 53 SPT I looked at the - corona. Did


not see _ny - really significant
chsage and the viewer at
about 0 - 60, and let me
correct something that I
said this mornin_ in _ de-
hrieflng of what the W_ITE
LIGHT CORONAGBAPH looked like.
I started to read some notes
rather qt_ckly and was out
of phase there. Really we
had a streamer at 060 and one
at 075. What - 060 was slightly
f
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enhanced but not a gread deal


so. And I compared it with -
pictures that I had taken today
at - 12:10, 18:17 and then
1 - which I Just took at
22:53. 8o I compared with the
previous two pictures and -
there's no real significant
change where active region 31 -
would put out a coronal alteration.
Went back to flare wait mode -
of active region 31, and the
counts again wer_ still high,
_0-50,000 oxygen VI still
densely Bright points, very small
but very pin point in H-ALPHA
and - pin point in the XUV
MONITOR.

021 23 53 22 SPT I might remark a_l the way along


here, that I can see - or have
been able to see in the XUV
MONITOR, the active region - 31
without INTEGRATE. So, really
it's a Judgement call as to
how bright it really is, and I
set the INTENSITY to 6-1/2 or
the REIGHTNESS I should say to
6-1/2 and that gives me _ome
scale to work from all the time.
And unless there's somehtln_
happeniDg in the active region
you - the X-RAY is not
discernible without INTEGRATE
at that getting.

021 23 5_ 08 SPT Okay. 56 received some PATROL


SHORTs at 55 and 50. And I
pointed at 41. 54 1 left in the
N_@/KE MODE - al - flare wait mode,
although they. had received a
_ISOS-6_, when doing the 32
building block. That was at around
55 minutes remaining, At about
39 minutes remaining - _0 Or
z-- 39 - I got a GIMBAL on a STOP.
We went off - target I had to
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put in a 3 minute maneuver


time, maneuver back, and I
think I caught it rather
early thim time so we got
back in a hurry.

021 23 55 04 SPT We didn't get too far off


attitude. It was furthest
off in Z. At least it was
slowest to c_ne in Z I should
say, X was far out too, but
it came back rather _uickly.
And then we waited again.
And at 23:16 - amd I didn't
get TIME REMAINING but 23:16
is the time I wrote down when
I noticed - when I noted that
I had started things in the
flare mode. An_ the sequence
.-- was first,a slightbrightening
in the XUV MONITOR. And it
inereased over what I - the
level I was used to seeing
it. In H-ALPHA the pin point
now started to spread south.
That's up in my display.
The reconfiguration change
in the brightening.

021 23 56 02 SPT PMEC was holding steady, I don't


know whst the n_ber was, 300
or 400, and wee're in either
the anomaly or horn of any
kind, then - it's very unstable
and it fluctuates quite a bit.
This was relatively steady,
maybe fluctuating plus or
minus 50 or so, Gr plus
Or minus 30 - something on that
order. Qualitatively, I knew
something was happening, so
I went into the FLARE MODE.
54 we started immediately.
56 was starting at AUTO SHORT
right after that. 55 was
_- runningin - MLS all this time.
With - all detectors to OVERRIDE,
except 5.
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021 23 56 59 SPT 82A - I had the timer set up.


They got a 20 second ex-
posure right _way. 82B -
operated- I was rather
conservative and I geve
them a WAVELENGTH SHORT
expo - WAVELENGTH SHORT,
times 1/4 exposure. By
that time I knew I had
something. All indicators
told me it was - gonza be
something a little bit more
than ... normal. And I
Just started checking to _ke
sure I had ... the right
mode. A_d from this point
on it's a - a little bit
harder to keep track of.

-- 021 23 57 5_ SPT But once I had confirmed that


I did have a flare on the
rise - that w_ _fter I
had given 82A the exposure
and 82B t_e WAVELENGTH SHORT.
I think I may have given
them a second sequence in
there. I'm not sure. I
then put both 82 instruments'
into a FLARE, respective
FLARE MODE. While I was
counting hi,tuber days remaining
in the mission _and the number
of synol_tic f_Im_ and so forht,
and I'm - I 82B we got down kind
of fat. 82A is down to 30.
Well, - we'll talk that when I -
when I get done here..

021 23 58 38 SPT 82A then got exposures of


WAVELENGTH SHORT, 20 s_conds at
2_ remaining 9_I, 18, 13, 8 and
3. 82]] got a WAVELENGTH-
well, I came out of there FLARE
MODE, well, I'm not too sure -
but when we peaked out - we
--- were - I should say, the peaks
were 710, the PMEC, is the
highest I recall seeing and
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70 on the IMAGE INTENSITY COUNT,


and we had bumped up the
BERYLLIUM APERTURE 3, I think
that was one of the confirming
things that made me feel we
had a big one. But that was
after we had started the experiments
in the FLARE MODE.

021 23 59 32 SPT So when we were around - reading


600 or so on the PMEC and
it had leveled out. IMAGE
INTENBITY COUNT was below 70,
it was down oh, 40-50. Then
again, I'm I'm trying to recall
n11mhers which, _ don't even
recall . a general scale of
things. 40 or 50 is what I
recall that at. And it had
leveled out although, the
configuration was changing in
H-ALPHA, and oxygen VI, believe
i% or not, was going down.
I'll describe th_ H-ALPHA
manifestation in a little bit.
So that had me take the 82
instruments out of the FLARE
MODEs, aria try to play it
by ear from there as far as
giving them data without -
and leaving them some film.

022 00 00 21 SPT And I think maybe on 82B we -


we gave more data and less
left film. Okay, for 82B when
we came out of the _ MODE,
we had a - something got by
me there. And that was at -
we had cycled into the
WAV_J._NGTH LONG position. And
when we came out, - I did
not_ see that we were in LONG,
and I gave them two exposures
_ne on 25 and one on 22,
two _xpos_re sequences of -
_- times i/4
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019 00 00 59? SPT And now I noticed we were in


LONG I had to get over to
SHORT. And for some reason
I had to CLOSE the DOORs and
then OPEN them again. I
didn't realize whether that
was the anomaly or - the
funny that - that I 'd worked
with a _ong time ago, but
when I - couldn't get to
LONG, I knew we had to
either RESET DOORS or POWER
and I tried DOORS first.
And then we got over to
SHORT. And then I gave
WAVELENGTH SHORT sequences
at 20, 17, 12 TIME REMAINING.
Oxygen VI count was on the
way down at this point - so
I ... th@ - went to SHORT
times, NORMAL at 9 and at
and I cut off at around
l-l/2 minutes remaining
which was slightly below
400 K. So we got a - a
truncated last exposure on
that NORMAL th_ -
two minutes and 30 second
exposure was truncated.

019 00 02 ll? SPT Okay, in H-ALPHA, it


started out with Just a
slight spreading to the
south. As the flare pro-
gressed it spres_ to t_e
south and to the east
along a - a llne -
horizontal. And then later
on, it s_read up to the
north and seemed to be
concentrating right around
the point where we were
working even though that
obviously was not always
the hottest point in
the FLARE. But it looked
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to me as though we had
a good ROLL we had a good -
a good position for - for
anybody.

019 O0 02 58? SPT They want to take time out


to ROLL 82B SLIT parallel
to _nything they could.
I figured that they had
enough bright flaring plage
in their SLIT to obliterate
anything else. So that 's
where we mts_ved. I'd be
interested in hearing the
statistics on all of this
when you finally get done
in terms of act_lal flare
rise and instrument start
time. I do think that
I probably goT this one about
as early as - I possibly
could when the indicaters
that I had available. And
again I _Ight add, this is
probably the 0nly way you
can do it, is with your
e_eball glued to - XUV
MONITOR, and seeing as how
the persistent image seope
is - I'd probe_ly have a
black ring around my right
eye from _ fram staring
into that. But for o_ce,
I think it paid off. Happy
data analysis.

019 00 04 017 $PT SPT out.

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021 14 37 38

021 14 57 06 CDR This is the CDR at 16:07 Zul , and I


owe you some briefings on ha &held
observations. Last night ate)0:30
I toak some Nikon B00 pictur_ - -

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022 Ol 27 53 CDR Okay, this is the CDR. The subject


is S073. And I'm getting ready to
start frame number 3 right now.
Stand by -

022 Ol 28 02 CDE MARK. ADd that mark was at 01:28


and 5 seconds. The first frame
was started at 01:24, right on time.
The second frame was started at
01:24 and 30 seconds. And now we're
on the third frame. The first frame
was Nikon frame number - number 13;
second one was nJmber 12; and this
one's number ii on the Nikon. And
we did not get up w_th you and let
you he@r the m_rks and all that good
stuff because we had a medical
confereDce going at that time. And
I was shoo - shooting your pictures
and talking to the doctor at the same
time. So got a little bit busy. Okay
one minute now has gone on your -
your - your exposure oumber 3.

022 01 29 50 CDR 15 seconds to go.

CDR Okay. Stand by -

022 01 30 05 CDR MARK. Termination of sequence of


exposure number S. We're starting
number h. '_

022 01 30 19 CDR MARK. STartednumber 4 &t 30 and


15 seconds,_01:30 and, 15 seconds.
And l_seconds_latebut we'll pick
it up between the next two,frames
and wel_l be ahead. _8o we're in _ood
shape._ •

022 01 30 29 CDR This is the CDR leaving the DAC


for a few minutes.

022 01 36 l0 CDR Okay this is the CDR. It's 01:36


sad 15 seconds.

_k
l

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022 Ol 36 18 CDR MARK. Now we're going to do exposure ""


number 5. I'll cock the shutter•
!
022 01 36 35 CDE MARK. Exposure is started at 36:35.
•.. now. We made up 20 - no, 25
seconds ahead. So at h4:35, I'll
be terminating this exposure.

022 01 36 56 CDR Leaving the loop again.

022 01 hh i0 CDR This is the CDI_. The subject is S073


operations. It's 01:4h and 15 seconds -
20 seconds. We're about 15 seconds
away from termination of exposure
number 5. 5 seconds to go.
Stand by -

022 01 h4 35 CDR MARK. Okay, that's terminated. I'm


cocking the sh_tter. Now we're coming
up on GI:45 and we'll start thi_
exposure right on time. And this
one's for 6 minutes. We'll
terinate it at 51, 1 minute before
sunrise.STandby -

022 O1 h5 O1 CDR MARK. Okay, we've Just started


, exposure number 6 and that's frame
number -number 8, I believe it is.
Yea, it'sframenumber8.

022 Ol 45 36 CDR Okay. This is the CDB leaving the


10op now. I'll be back in about
minutes.

022 01 50 40 CDR CDR at - at 01:50 and 45 seconds,


within seconds from termination of
frame - exposure n,km_er6.
Stand_y - i

022 01 51 00 CDR MARK. Termite%ion of frame -


exposu_.e number 6 at 01:51. We're
i minute before sunrise. Camera
is cocked and _e are compelte with
S073.

022 Ol 51 15 CDR CDR o_t.

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022 02 34 ii CDR This is the CDR at 02:34 Zulu


reporting on the M092 this morning.
The subject was the PLT; the M092 was
started at 13:30 Zulu and I think
it was done about 14:20 Zulu. I
think that's about right - Negative,
no it was later than that because
we ahd to limb blood flow. I don't
really know; you'll have to check
on that from data came down on M093.
It usually takes us about .anhour
and i0 minutes to do this whole thing.
Okay, the data is as follows: The
PLTIs left calf measured 13-1/4; his
right calf measured 13-1/8. The
legb_nds that were used were Charlie
Juliett, with a eal adjustment of
2.5. And Alfa Quebec was used on the
rightside. And that'sall the data
you need.

022 02 35 14 ODR CDR out.

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022 12 09 59 PLT Okay, this is PLT giving


Mh87-2 Delta crew debriefing.
Let me try and ... this.
20 more minutes ... Okay.
How effective are the various
tools used thus far; in particular
which are poorly suited for use in
zero-g? Did you find that you
needed any tools other than those
provided in the kits? Okay, we've
found that we'd like to have files,
regular type files, and drills are
a couple of things that we'd like
to have. I guess that the tools
that we've used - I know we've had
difficulty with sc_ae of them. I
was Just trying to - I was trying to
remember the specifics involved.

022 12 3_1 lh PLT One of the biggest problems we have


isin maDaging the tools. And I end up
earrying them in my pocket. The tool
caddie is almost useless, because it
doesn't hold the tools. They Just
come out of it when you're - you try
to put them in there and move, why
they Just scatter all over everything,
come out. Things like putting all
of the Alle - little hex, or Allen
wrenches in a'- in a bag, where you
have a bag with them. We're delighted
to have Allen wrenches or the hex
wrenches, but when you open the top
of the pocket, you know, then it gets -
everything Just comes floating right
out in your face. And with it - it
sounds like chimes around you. And -
but sure there's a - there's a rather
obvious solution for that,'but - the -
it is a problem. And I think that
management of tools, has to be given
an awful lot of thought.

022 12 12 19 PLT I've already critiqued the tools boxes.


By the way, another gripe I have about
f- the tool boxes down there in those
/
lockers is that the little bent down
legs that serve as a pull handle on
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those drawers covers alot of the


nomenclature. And you have to turn
yourself - put your head down almost
to the floor and look underneath the
legs to see nomenclature. This - this
violates just garden variety con_non
sense planning. To put - to put lables
on a drawer and then hide it with a
piece of metal is, well, it - it's
not the way to go. You're Just kidding
yourself, if you think you're sat -
satisfying a requirement by putting
nomenclature on there and then you turn
right around and hide it and say,
ha-ha-ha, see if you can find it. So
tha'ts not a very intelligent way to -
to plan the nomenclature anyway.

022 12 13 II PLT The - what do you think about the -


question here - poorly - poorly suited
for use in zero-g. A screwdriver, if
you have to apply force, is difficult
to use in zero-g, because you're pushing.
And you - you're going to - unless you
have a purchase point for pulling location
nearby, and I mean nearby, within inches,
within 6 inches, because you need 8/%
oposite force. The same thing is true
for wrenches, when you use - have to use
a high torque. Now, if you - when - when
we're working with the scientific airlock
and other objects there, we're in - our
feet are close to grid floors and our
feet provide the necessary anchoring I
think that probably that's as much trouble
as - as not having the proper tool here.
One of the biggest problems has been
getting the proper body - the stability
for using the tool in question.

022 12 lh 16 PLT Let's see now, we've had some assemblies -


T025 assembly for the EVA, and some of the
other maintenance tasks where we've had to
use same fairly reasonably high torques
in the wrenches. And that's not being a big
problem, but I've found that a couple of
times I was - I was really - really straining
to put enough force on with the stem driver.
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Of course, we do have the - the


ratchet handles and two extensions
to use. And I'd like to also, I
think you ought to have something
like a hack saw.

022 12 15 O0 PLT Did you find that you needed any


tools other than those provided in
the kits? I think that there is
always going to be a need for that
kind of stuff. And everybody seems
to be all shook up about metal -
metal filings, and I think they
ought to be. But I think there's a
way to handle that• and I think it could
be handled with a - with a vacuum
cleaner. And this - but this means
then that you're going to have to have
a - what amounts to a workbench or a
special- specialarea set aside,
like over the diffuses section. By
the way, we have mentioned that from
time to time; I've found it an
excellent place to - to work. Now,
the diffuser section itself, is a -
the - the purpose for holding down
pieces of paper and using smal screws.

CC ... AOS at Honeysuckle for a very


short pass ....

022 12 15 5h PLT I h_ven't answered that question


number 1 too well, because I - I
know that I atti - from time to
time I've thought of what better
tools, you know, I'd like to have
and the effectiveness of the given
tools and - I'd like to come back to
that, if I think of any thing else.
Number 2, what postural adjustments
you have to make in order to accomodate
task performance in zero-g? Numerous.
Taking stuff out of the dome lockers,
you might think, well that wouldn't
be too bad, because you've got that
Y blue ring. Well, it's not true,because
most - a lot of time in order to get to
the equilxaent that's located in some
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of the lids you have to come out of


the - the blue ring foot restraint
and work op - in the open. And there,
in the airlock is h_rd to work, because
ther are no foot restraints. The STS
and the _A are very difficult locations
in which to work with tools, because of
the great lack of foot restraints and
body restraints. And this means that
you end up use - using your body against
what ever things - whatever pieces of
hardware are available. And I have
experienced numerous cuts and bruises
and so forth in trying to stablize myself
while I'm working with tools or Just with
installations.

022 12 17 15 PLT I'd like to go back and say that in


particular - this is question 1 again.
It just occurred to me that a vacuum -
the vacuum cleaner, I'd call a tool,
because it's used in so many ways.
Doggone it Just still doesn't have enough
suck is all it amounts to. Thatrs the -
the vacuum Just is not strong enough
to do a lot of the things we'd llke to
do. In particular, I'd like to mention
the OWS heat exchanger fans in the sat
airloek compartment and the associated
heat exchanger vanes, fins - vanes and
fins area [?]; there was a little raehator
heat exchanger itself. We've been trying
to - to vacuUm that thing now, but the -
the manufacturer very thoughtlessly
neglected to put a filters in front of those
heat exchangers, and so the heat exchanger
vanes and fins themselves act as a filter
and then over a period of time trapped
an awful ot of lint, what appears to be lint
and fine partieulants. And it requires
that we go up there several times ; oh,
during the mission it's about every third
or fourth day and vacuum those, and
don't have a suitable vacuum tool for it.

p 022 12 18 25 PLT I tried to - I - I- I made one up in order


to get down in there, hut the hose itself,
the - the metal part of the vacuum cleaner,
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is too large to fit by the OWS flapper


valve that leads down to the heat
exchanger. And what I'm leading up to is
saying is that maybe we ought to give
it a little bit more thought to more
flexibility in our attchments on the
vacuum cleaner, and also the fact that
the vacuum cleaner itself turns into a
maintenance device, other than Just a
cleanliness device. It's certainly
satisfactory for cleaning off the diffuser
and doing routine vacuuming in zero-g,
but that thing is asked to do - fill
many, many, many, more rolls than - than
it was originally designed for. And I
assume that the same thing is going to
hold true of a vacuum cleaner in the
shuttle. And I think we ought to have
a lot more vacuuming c_pability. In
other words, they ought to have a lot
more power to it, and I know you've got
problems because it's already on high
power, and I don't know what the answer
is. But that - that thing - that thing
does turn out to he a maintenance tool,
and that's the point I'm trying to make.
And I think that we ought to have more
flexibility in the attachments, and it
ought to be a stronger vacuum.

022 12 19 38 PLT What major muscle groups do you employ


in zero-g as opposed to one-g? Well,
of course, you use your arms and shoulders
more, but what you do is you end up
trying to use your legs as primary
stabilizing devices and wrapping them
around whatever is available in order to
stabilize yourself and give yourself a -
a work position which is satisfactory
for the Job at hand. And also, you -
you end up an awful ot using your alms
and - and your legs to wedge into places
and it's a very - well sometimes it's
painful. It's certainly not the -
the - the way that you would - a good
human factors, time and motion mad would
Just throw up his hands if he saw a lot
of things we have to do in order to perform
the tasks that are more or less routine.
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022 12 20 27 PLT What major muscle groups - okay° Would


you offer any design reco_nendation for
future vehicles based upon these consider-
ations? Yes, I would. And they fall into
the following catagroies: (1) good work
stations for each area where there's
equipment located. I don't care if it's
designed to put l0 billion hours of
trouble-free operations it may break
down after lO hours. And we end up
replacing, modifying, patching, taping,
and everything else, these - these pieces
of equipment. If you - if you have a
piece of equilmnent that's accessable,
inside or outside of the sapceeraft,
unless it's got ... closing in half inch
steel armor plate around it, then that
son-of-a-gun may be has to he - you may
be asked to work on that thing. And now,
inside and outside the spacecraft, there
ought to be at least mounts or provisions
for crew restraints and hands. Remember,
Just giving you foot restraints a lot
of times is not enought, if the guy can't
hold on to anything else, because he may
have to hold on with one hand and pull with
the other. Now, the ... of proper cr -
the proper provision for crew restraints,
and handholds, footholds, whatnot throughout
the spacecraft at any area where maintenance
activity could be envisioned to take place,
replacement of modes or modification of
modules or any other thing.

022 12 22 02 PLT So, the second general area is that - and


it's a sort of a continuation of the first
is that every time there's a - whoops -
every plaee where it's considered or
envisioned that a tool could be used,
consideration - I think you should have
an opposition point of application
of force. If you're going to undue a
screw - if you're going to unscrew or
screw in a screw at point A then radially
out from the axis of ratation of that
- screw several inches, say 6 to 12 to 15,
there ought to be a location where you can
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grab a hold of something and hold.


Say, if you're going to unscrew it
with your right hand, there's a place
there for you to hold with your left
to offset torque. If you're going to
have to push on something there - now
we Ive -- --

022 12 22 50 PLT A good example of a really lousy design,


as far as I'm concerned, is the recharge
station for the PSS in the aft airloek
compartment. Oh, we end up thrusting our
back against the - all kinds of hardware
and hatches and everything else trying to
get the recharge t_n - tlnbilical hose on
and off the - the bottle connection. Now,
this is one of the worst connections, I
think, for - for a seating that I have
ever seen. The point that I'm trying to
make is that there is really no suitable
opposition - point of opposition - application
of opposition force to accommodate that
action. If you go look at that particular
task, I think you will see what I'm
talking about. But, I mean, there are
things there to grab on to but there should
be - you also to can - can hurt youself
in there. There are all kinds of sharp
pieces of hardware and so forth. It's
almost a ground safety problem. But that -
that's ene example of a task where you
really don't have a suitable opposition
point, and you're pushing and pulling at
the same time, of course, on the thing too.

022 12 23 54 PLT So, proper ere restraint, and - in order


to anchor the body and also proper location
of and provision of opposition force
application points for - tool force
application . And it doesn't have to
necessarily he a tool either, as I said ....
constitutes an action which requires a - an
opposition force.

022 12 24 25 PLT Okay, would you offer any design recommen-


dations- - okay, ...tryingto think of
any more. Another thing, by the way, that's
turned out to be a real frustrating business
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is - is applying the clip board to ... have.


It has _ double 6nap on it - it has two
snaps. That thing is very hard to put on.
It's really amazing, and the snaps that
are on handholds are great use because you
can put one finger behind the handhold
and the other finger in front and push them
together with your two fingers. Now that -
that constitutes an opposition pair of
forces. Everytime we knock the clip board
off of the - the snaps up at the EREP panel,
it's a - it's really a major operation
to get that thing back on because there's
nothing to pull against with your other
finger when you try to put that snap back in.
You end up pushing yourself on the opposite
side of the spacecraft trying to put the
snap in.

022 12 25 18 PLT So snaps on a large flat surface are really,


as far _s I'm concerned, are marginally
satisfactory unless you get something
else to help you now. We had same - I'm -
I'm right here looking at some snaps on a -
a wire . .. cover right next to OWS radiant
heater 2, to the right as you facr the SIA
next to the minus Z SAL. Now, that snap
pattern is probably all right because -
because I got places to put my feet in the
floor here, and I also have some handholds
over here to hold on too. So I can put
that down there with no more - with no
trouble. But if I'm Just in a large flat
area with a snap, I think I'm in trouble.

022 12 25 55 PLT The previous Skylab crew observed that


handling large masses was far less difficult
than handling multiple items of relatively
small mass. Has your experience been
similar? Yes indeed. And what logistics
management techniques have you employed
cope with this problem? Well, we used bags.
That's what we used, and our pockets - and
also our pockets. I end up putting los of
s_all things in my pockets. And again when
"---_ you, of course, when you unzip the - the
pocket things all come floating out, and
you got to watch for that. But I think that
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the idea of the tool caddie, going


back to that, was basically motivated
by certainly the best intentions. It's
Just unfortunate that it did not turn out
to be quite as - as good a restraint device
and holding device as we thought it was
going to be.

022 12 26 41 PLT And I previously mentioned that I thought


bags - bags with lots of window openings -
transparent wi - transparent sections would
be good, with a double - with an overlaping
flap door in the top of it or to the side
or something you could reach through and
see your stuff. You got to be able to see
it though. Reaching down in a bag and
feeling for things is out to lunch. I've
tried that. That's - that's wa - a real
time waster. You always end up opening
the bag and peeking down in there and then
the stuff floating out while you are doing
that.

022 12 27 lh PLT Have you fould that you could accomplish


maintenlmce tasks reasonable well with -
well either on line or at improved -
improvised work sites, or would these chores
have been simplified by having a dedicated
maintenance station. Well, it depends.
The PSS recharge stand - station is a
dedicated maintenance station, and I think
that's a very poor design, because of the
Just the way that the hardware works in
that station, and I - I - I don't like it.
It - it works. I have had difficulties
at times with it. But Just because you
have a dedicated maintenance station does
not mean it's going to be a good one.
That's my point, because that one - my -
I'm personally - I personally don't like
that one, and again a lot of ti - and it's
all, of course, this is intended as
constructive criticism, because if I had
designed that thing, I might have designed
it Just like he - they did. The only thing
"_ is, of course,it is - it does have an
awful lot of sharp corners there in a
very small - a lim - limited area, where
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you 're - you 're working with your


fingers, but you - you do -

022 12 28 28 PLT I like the idea of making dedicated


maintenance stations. I like that idea,
but I - all I'm saying is, because you
see somewhere in a document that we
have a dedicated maintenance station
for task X - X-ray 2, whatever it
happens to be, that does not mean it's
going to be any good. That's
the point. I - I have been able to
accomplish the tasks reasonably
well either on a line or at improved -
improvised work sites. And I think
they probably would have been much
better to do at a dedicated maintenance
station if it had been done pro - if
the dedicated maintenance station
was properly designed. And I think
that in the case of the PSS recharge
station that - that with a little
thought that could have been better,
I mean, there's just - there's an
awful lot of sharp edges and a very
small work en - work envelope there.

022 12 29 21 PLT Would you reco_end a dedicated


maintenance station for future long
term mission. I certainly would,
and that's what I had in mind when I
mentioned the work bench at the -
earlier and that's - that's a - this
is a special invasion [sic] of that.
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022 12 29.32 PLT What I had an id - in mind was a


general work bench, say, located near
or above our defusers, [?] something
that is similar to what we have had,
but the defuser dissection or perhaps
even one that was specially designed
which could, say, have a couple of
vacuum cleaners hooked up to it or
something like that. And we'd turn
on just as is - is - as - as the need
arose. For instance, like we - we
have a vacuum cleaner in - incorporated
in our shower system and there's no
reason why you couldn't have Just a -
especially, if the volume did not cost
you all that much. What I've been
envisioning is a work station flat
surface with a, see, with - like a
vice or, you know, hooking you -
ancillary - pieces of ancillary
equipment. And then you turn the -
the vacuum on - this thing would be
as defused [?], this section may be
located underneath this thing or
incorporated as a part of the surface
until like that and - and you use it
to - to restrain items while you work
on them. But - but dedicated maintenance
station idea is - is excellent because
it - we - it would focus your attention
on the task when you design it and also
would probably give you the - give you
a stowage location for special tools for
that so you'd have to go and - and
stretch them out every time. And also,
yeah, I think it would lead to better -
better management in housekeeping
regarding the tools. I think we've
been pretty good about that, but
occasionally we do loose a tool and
then find it.

022 12 31 06 PLT But it's always that nawing fear that


you know ... - you just sort of loose
track of the thing.

022 12 31 12 PLT You'll get a tool to do the job and


then maybe you put it in your pocket,
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like I said we did, and if you -


sometimes you forget, and you don't
put the thing back for a while.

PLT What is your prime method of removing


reactive forces when you must exert
linear push or pull forces during a
task? Okay, the prime method is body
... and agonizing pain. The - the _A
and the STS are two areas and also the
alrlock where it's really to - one
of the - one of the tasks I was thinking
of - it just - Just occurred to me was
the replacement of the umbilical stowage
container cover. Now that - that cover
is not very well designed because it
won't even receive all the receptacles
that are located in it. I mean, you
can get - attach all the pieces that
are supposed to attach to the settings
in there and get that - they won't
even - you can't even get them in there,
I don't think. I think maybe a
factory man might with a couple of
Stillson wrenches and large pair of
pliers twisting and bending and deforming
but anyway. That - There - When you
start to put those back in, that -
that turns out to be quite a - an un -
unsatisfactory chore. And there's
nothing to push against except put
your feet on the opposite side of the
airlock and push - put your shoulder or
whatever else against it and get to -
try to get the_thing in there. So
what you end up doing is really lo -
looking all around and seeing what
you can wrap your legs around, arms
around, put your shoulder against,
put your back against, put your feet
against, that sort of thing and then
if you can't, you start thinking about
something else.

-- 022 12 32 55 PLT Now when I did the repair of the primary


coolant loop early in the mission, I
was working in an area that hadn't - in
the, let's see, the STY, MDA, MDA, was
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it in there, yeah, I guess, it just -


guess - it's just the STS.

022 12 33 21 PLT I was working in the area there around


the mol sieves where there were no
foot restraints and poor lighting.
By the way that's another thing, too.
There ought to be a way of getting
adequate lighting around. Now we do
have portable lights and all that sort
of thing, hut that - I think in addition
to that that ought to be a prime
consideration of all envelopes working
in the working area, lighting and of
course permanent lighting would be
better, if you have, if you would go
and do have permanent lighting. Okay,
go back to working on permanent toolery
that no - no footholds- foot restraints
in - they're all you have in the area
there are the handholds that run around
the mol sieves in the STS. What I
need - what did was I took some long
straps and I snapped them around my
legs and from my legs around - through
just about my calf and ankle area.
I strapped my feet, my legs to the
handholds by putting -by looping the
long straps around the handhold. One
of the reasons I did this is I'd be
willing to coverage on television.
Well, I didn't want to look like an
imbecile on the television so I very -
gave a lot of careful thought which
was a good deal because I did the Job
better. But I wrapped the straps around
my legs and I then wrapped both the
straps around the handholds and this
anchored my legs and permitted me to
use my hands without having to worry
about my hands torquing the rest of
my body. I was the primary point there.

022 12 34 51 PLT Otherwise it's a - it's really a - a


big guessing game for removing the
torques, and a lot other times what
you end up doing and this is the reason
I assume I was ashamed to admit this
F

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but as - as the designers ought to


be equally ashamed in providing us
with a - a system where you have
to use it. It to - it'd to use lag
forces and the inertia of the body
in order to take out some of the
torque. In other words, if I'm
getting ready to unscrew a screw
I - I go ahead and give the thing
a big pull or twist and so forth
and then let my body go ahead and
torque. And then I wait until our
thing stable around and - stabilizing
again and then I give it another twist.

022 12 35 28 PLT And so you're Just sort of using the


inertia of your - of your body, free
floating there, as a temporary,
short-term oppositionfor - to - to
cancel the reactive force. And of
course you've got to get yourself
back under control. Our working -
working in the lids at the dome
ring lockers is that way a lot, and
undoing some of the calfoxes on some
of the equipment. One, if you're
getting the PCU out. When we had
trouble on the - I guess it was the
second EVA, Jerry's PCU started leaking
and we had to get the spare PCU
out. And I got up there and I had
to use a - the ratchet - ratchet
handle plus an extension and some -
some tool fittings on the end of
the extension; I think it was a 7/16
deep socket; I don't know. Anyway
that was a - that was a good example
of question and 5 - question 5 here,
in that I just sort of threshing
myself back from one side of the locker
to the other as I was a ratcheting
those things; they_were real tight.

022 12 36 34 PLT Have you - number 6: have you noted


a definite tendency to establish an
IVA coordinate system as a frame of
reference for locomoting and working
within the various modules and
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compartments of Skylab? Yes, verily,


I have. And it may vary for the
individual workstation. And when I'm
facing the minus Z-SAL I'm minus Z-SAL
oriented. When I'm facing the film !
locker I'm film-locker oriented, or
when I'm facing some other area, like
when I'm vacu1_mlug the defuser section,
I'm orientated to that device. When
I'm looking in the OWS heat exchanger
areas, I'm located there; I've got
a different orientation when I turn
around and you the PSS recharge station.
When I look from either one of those
to the other during a individual task,
that other - that other location
doesn't - doesn't occur to me. It's
only when I get to that location and
start doing that work that every thing
falls into reference for that particular
task a_d workstation.

022 12 37 36 PLT That's a - that's an awfully good question


and I've found that that's a phenomenon
I did not know exists. Now yesterday I
was cleaning the freezers and I found -
this was in the wardroom, getting the
ice off - chipping the ice of the -
around the doors and so forth. We do
this about -I think about once a week.
And it turned out to be very, very useful
to turn myself upside down with my feet
on the ceiling, on the wardroom, as it
were, and with my head down towards the
grid floor of the wardroom. And while -
as long as I was doing that and working
on those freezers everything seamed
great; in other words, it just seemed
very reasonable. Aa soon as I diverted
my attention -_ I finished and I
diverted my attention back into the
wardroom I looked around and everything
looked all weird because I was upside
down. Just like turning yourself
on your - standing on your hands in
room in one g.
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002 12 38 27 PLT But you do not im - what is it -


subjectively reorientate the volume
relative to the given posture you
have. You do not do that. The body -
or the mind does not do that. Because
that wardroom just looked completely
different, and - and this, I think
is - some of it has already been well
documented by the other crewmen,
so I won't go into more detail on
that.

022 12 38 51 PLT Discuss the application you feel that


it should have in the design of future
vehicles. I think it's rather obvious.
I think that you cannot design an
omni-directional system. In other
words, I - you cannot design a volume
/_ which is going to look right to
the crewman all the time, no matter
what his attitude is. At the same
time, it should im - implant the
germ, at least, of the idea that when
you are in a given a work area, things
should be oriented relative to that
work area - relative to the task
performed at that point.

022 12 39 23 PLT And that you cannot depend - you can't


say well, zero-g ain't gonna make no
difference anyway; I'll Just put it
upside down here. Well that's not
true because you - when you sit at -
when you're standing here, say at
the minus Z-SAL where I am right now,
everything should look upright at that
point. You do not assume some kind
of emotional capability, or I guess
the orientation capability in zero g
that one may think. Things do look
up in - things do look-upside down.
Things do look upright and upside
down relative to the present orientation
of the individual. And it might -
I've already I think I've already gone
_ intogreatdetailan how I think that
you should lable and number things.
And I think that at least this -
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there's no big problem once you locate


your hardware and you go to that
piece of hardware, you orient yourself
in a familiar direction to work at that
station and press on from there.

022 12 h0 30 PLT What is your opinion concerning the


advisability of exerting design influence
to standarize for future vehicles the
multiple types of snaps, latches and
retainers, restraints, doors, eteetra,
that you have been confronted with
aboard Skylab? Well, I think that
there ought to be a lot of standardization,
and I think one of the - the - a good
step in the right direction is
standardized snap patterns. And I think
that the grid pattern on the floor is
a good idea, and the way we've used
handholds and universal mounts.

022 12 41 05 PLT I think that some - ought to be more


of that, and I think there ought to be
something like a pegboard pattern all
around the spacecraft. In other words,
where we see walls here in the - in the
0WS, ought to be a pegboard pattern.
Now I don't say it would have to be
brown like it the pegboard things that
you buy, cause it - you know it could
be just the same color as we have here.
But if you stand-off surface, fairly
sturdy, with something like a pegboard
pattern, that'd give you a lot more
flexibility. I've found that a lot of
times the - the hex pattern we have
here, the 60-degree limited - limit in
capability, is - doesn't - doesn't
give you quite the flexibility you would
like to have. The pegboard pattern
is not godng to give you a whole lot
more, probably, but they could - at
least you can lotate - locate the thing,
as far as position is concerned, with
a little more fineness in selectivity.

022 12 hl 59 PLT I still find different size snaps around


the spacecraft. Generally speaking it's
pretty good, but I haven't counted them.
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And we - we do find that here and


there we - we will occasionally get
a snap that does not fit, too small
or too large. Again, snaps - in order
to use snaps, you ought to have
something - something that's behind -
some way to get your finger behind
the snap in order to put another
snap on, because that . that turns
out to be quite a chore sometimes.

022 12 42 31 PLT And as far as dial latches are concerned,


I think they're terrible. They don't
work a lot of times; they - the little
things - the dial latches on the S019
equipment, on the film vault door,
and the S063 vault 512, I think it is:
all around those things have - they -
they're - they'reJust a lot of trouble.
I don't particular like them. And I
just - I guess that I shouldn't criticize
something without - without making some
suggestions for something better, but
we're probably going to llve with those
for a while. I don't like them. And
_lso the little dial latches that hold
the hoses for the 0WS water system; I -
I don't know. I'm - I'm at a loss to
suggest a - a better system, but I -
I think the idea of standardizing
those thiDgs is great.

022 12 43 27 PLT I also feel like there ought to be


an easy way to replace them. The -
we found that the ones on the vau -
film vault caused us a lot of problems.
I think you ought to be able to -
to replace them very easily. The -
I tell you, the thing that - the
little r the little sort of -well,
let's see; it _looks like ring nut
fasteners, only they're dial latches,
that hold the OWS water system hoses.
Those things are hard to get in position,
and it's hard to know when you got
... seems like you - it's hard to know
when you have them engaged properly.
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And then also it seems like you always


have to turn them Just a little
further than your wrist wants to go.

022 12 44 08 PLT Okay, restraints, doors. I had an awful


lot to say about this and I'm running
out of time. But I'll give some thought
to question number 7, and if don't
give it - get it back on tape, I'll
give it during the debriefing.

022 12 44 19 PLT PLT out.

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022 13 48 h4 PLT This is the PLT completing the


M487-2 Delta crew debriefing. What
is your opinion concerning - this
is question seven. What is your
opinion concerning the advisability
of exerting design influence to
standardize for future vehicles the
multiple types of snaps, latches,
retainers, restraints, door, et
cetera that you have been
conffronted with aobard Skylab?
And I think that there' an
enormous benefit to be gained by
standardizing. Some of the
latches - I was mentioning dial
latches, the type of dial
latches that's on the film vault,
the water-purification
f
container - compartment con -
• container, the T025 and various
other pieces around and how -
how those - the SO19. Those
things - you - you undo them
and you - and they flop back.
And then when you get ready
to open the door - and by the
time you get ready to open the
dorr, they - the thing has
bounced back and re'engaged itself.
That's one thing that's sort
of an irritation, to keep pushing
the things out of the way.
Another is that the - they seem
to get out of adjustment.
And this is not so bad on the -
the type that's used on the SO19
film vault, although we have had
an awful lot of troulbe with
the ones on the film vault. I
don't - I - I don't know why,
I Just don't particularly like
those. And I don't like the
little ... the ones that have the -
they - they look - it's sort of
like a wing nut only they're a
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dial-like type thing. And you ahve


to move your - you always seem to
be Just short of getting far
enough with the thing because
there's a limitation in the wrist-
twist motion in movement. Instead
of moving (?) it, you keep going
with the wrist. The Calfax are
other headahces. The little
washer on the opposite end is
always coming off. Awf - awfully
hard to line the things up. I
think that's not the fault of
the dial latch. I think it was
mismatch of hardware. But the
access for the water - -

SPT . .. ATM debriefing.

PLT Any time, Just tell me.

PLT The - let's see what was I going to


say - access for the mol sieve
compartment for water - the water
reservoir for the ATM. That
compartment is very poorly alinged
and the Calfax is very difficult
to get in position. OWS heat
exchanger access: one of them, we
never could put in. Stand by 1.
Ed, anytime you're ready. Okay
go ahead.

022 13 52 07 SPT Hello. I'll be here in Just a few


minutes.

022 13 52 17 SPT ... Okay?

PLT Press on.

SPT Thank you.

022 13 52 26 SPT SPT at 13:52. ATM pass which began


at about 13:10 to 13:15 when I
got called up afte r we dumped the
EREP. Or I should say EREP was
cancelled due to weather. Came
out to the building block 32 and
looked at the corona again and
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no significant change. The spike


which should center on i00 is
still there, very prominent.

CC Skylab, this is Houston through


Honeysuckle ... for 5 minutes.
And we're still watching your
•.. temperatures now ... again
through Honeysuckle.

022 13 53 16 SPT Hold on. I'll ... in Just a few


moments.

022 13 55 15 PLT Okay. This is the PLT continuing


the M487 brief. One of the other
things that I dislike very
intensely about the little wing
nut dlal latches, the type that
. are usedfor the - retaining
the OWS water system ... that
they're too small. They end
up hurting your fingers. In the
event - it seemed like they
were a little bit more than -
well, first off, you could -
you go past the engagement
point, it looks to me
like. You c - you could - you
continue - if you twist it too
hard, you would release it again.
Either that or I didn't - I - I
wasn't in Just the right position
to start with. Anyway, that's
enough on those. And Calfax didn't
appear really to do the Job•

PLT The 0W8 heat exchanger cover:


one Calfax we could never get fi -
tightened down. The ATM water
reservoir access: we never got
that compartment installed. I
got it once; I got it in one
time, I think. We used ... tape
after that so the Calfax were
F_ virtually useless. As I say - and
I don'tknow if it was the fault
of the Calfx or it was the alignment
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of the hardware. But the Calfax


require - they were it was on the
end of a rod ... the fastener
part of the Calfax. The little
engagement part was on the long
end of a rod which extended back
through the water - the ATM waste
reservoir access compartment
which was actually another stowage
container. The whole thing hinged
out. And so the problem was that
there is the Calfax engagement bit,
or whatever it is, was on the end
of that long rod. And, of course, if
the compartment iyself was not
aligned perfectly toward - at -
at the - at the interface, then you
couldn't get the Calafax engaged.
Another thing on fasteners in a
man - in a manner of speaking are
the QDS. Now - no, but most of the
time, I'd say 80 percent of the
time, you don't have trouble with
QDS. But when you do get one that's
sticky, it is really murder because
it's awfully - if you're trying
to push one ... the water tank -
push a water tank hose onto a
water tank and you're having
trouble with it. It's very difficult
because there - it doesn't seem to
be like - htere's a - there's enough
there's - there is a a point that
you can hold on to close enough
to axls of the applied push force
to give you _- a good opposition
force. The foot - . .. foot
restraint looks like it would be
ideal for that. But it turns
out that you end up turquing -
torquing your body well out into
the workshop. Now I - I found on
water tank 9 1 had particular
difficulty with that QD. And we
used it quite a lot in the
water serviceunit procedures. And
I had to hookup a deionlzation hose
F.

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to that water tank and I spilled -


sprayed water Just about every time
I tried that one. And part of
the reason is because the food
lockers were in the way and I
had to reach back up under there.
What I'm saying is when you locate
a QD - for instance, you locate
a water tank and you say, QD is
underneath there and it's it's
going to come along and it's
going to put a hose on that he's
going to have all kinds of room
under here and everything. That
may not be true because other
equipment might be moved in
mkaing it very difficult 4o get a
straight - on shot at the QD
_ what I'm leadingup to is saying
that even though for 80 percent
of the time, maybe even 90 percent
of the time, the installation
and removal of a QD on a big
fixture like on the water tank is
a straight forward operation.
When yodo get in trouble and you
don't have a clear volume in which
to wrok, which is the case the
water tank 9, and it can turn
into- to - I really cut my - my
forearm on my - the outer bone
in my left arm. I - I cut through
the skin there two or three times
trying to get the QD onto water
tank 9. Now gettin_ it off is
no problem, although it seems you
bang your bones - I was banging
my arms into metal up there trying
to pull it off. What I'm getting
around to saying is that there ought
to be a pull - a pull point near -
near enough to ... to that thing.
So if you could work that thing
with your arms extended not when
-- you'rein an idealposition,but
when you - wheh you were working -
working that thing with your
arms well out in front of your body and
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you, say, envision yourself


reaching into a closed volume and
trying to p - attach that QD -
install a QD and also trying to
remove it. Because that's when
we get bit. It's not when the
thing is sitting out in the
workshop with ten mission cubic
foot of space there. IT's sitting
on a table and everybody around
there scracthing their fanny and
saying, "Ah, that's great, that works
good." Well you go put that into
a very tight volume and work in -
start working with your arms with -
with a limited degree of access
and visibility and the whole task
changes. And it - what was
originally a good decision and
certainly I - I can understand exactly
how it happens because I've been
placed in that situation where I
was sitting there looking at a
piece of equipment on a work bench
in a factory and said " Yeah, that
looks great." But then the - the
QD slips on there and pulls off of
there with no problem. But I was
sitting there with 'the thing right
in fron of my stomach and putting
all kinds of forces on it and with -
was no problem at all. You put
that thing in a limited aeess
environment and lighting and it's
a whole new ball game. And that's
whey I think that we need those
... point and force application
points for things like QDs. Because
you - you Just - it - it's not
the same to say that it works great
on the item when it's - when you're
working with it in the,workshop
or in a - in a high bay buildings
and then - then you go and stick
the thing in - in a place where it's
hard to get to. The - someof the
QDs on the EVA panel - IVA panel
... EVA lanels, are also awfully
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hard to work. We had trouble with


those at the factory. I think
there s.lso should be a sleeve-type
tool that we could put on QDs for
actually working with pieces that
are vry, very stiff. And what
we worked up one of these tools
that - in the GSE there for use
in the water separator above
panel 225; I think it's 217.
Now right there is a classic
example of one of the worst designs
I have ever seen. That is a
very, very difficult area in which
to work and if it is the - if the
QDs slide on and off, then it's
not too bad. I - fortunately I
had no troulbe with that flight. In
training - on the training vehicle I
had a fit. I said I had no
trouble in the flight. I didn't
get it the first time. I had to
owrk with it when - when I had
the water separtion procedure here
after the EVA-2 when Jerry got gas
in the line because of a problem
with a PCU connector. But htat area
up there - that access - that liquid
gas separator, and I think it's
panel 217, represents in my mind
one of the best example of how not
to provide the crew with access
and tools. Because if - first off,
there's no tool with - that - that's
suitable for working. I take that
back, I found that the connector
pliers - I could use the connector
pliers to some advamtage in putting
those QDs back on. Getting them
off is not too much of a problem
even though that's not easy. But
we - we (?) griped that and - in
trainin_ and people - again,
you know, they sort of h_m_ed and
hawed around. And people at
f MACDAC said, Oh, it's all right the
way it is and didn't give a ...
f

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Well, anyway I could u_derstand that


if its already built that way that
why - why they'd be very defensive
about it. But, in any event,
there is an example of something
that we don't want to repeat on
future spacecrafts. That's the -
that liquid gas separator situation
there. Because there's - first
palce it's a hard - those - those -
the force is required to replace
those QDs is very high. And you
have very, very limited access.
And you end up cutting your hands
and wrists when you're working in
there. So from a medical standpoint,
I think it's highly undesirable
because you never know what kind
z of contaminates you have in the
plubming lines. And it's Jsut
a - Just a very difficult area
in which to work. The - on
the other hand the liquid gas
separater on the ATM is Just no
problem at all. And, of course, it -
the - it's only installed, I think,
there temporarily.

PLT Okay, let's see now. I covered the


fasteners. The hatches and doors -
well, the - the hatches in the
airlock module - not the OWS
dome hatches,i:but the hatches in the
airlock module, cover a lot of
items which are of flight safety
concern. And I'm thinking right
bow in particular of the - the
MDA (?) ... airlock hatches. Both
of the hatches cover the cabin pressure
release valve which could be a
serious flight safety item of
concern. In particular, the see
we - we got ourselves out of
configuration. HOw, I don't know.
Probablywhat happened,and I'm
not sure of this - probably I looked
in there and checked the thing
CLOSED, convinced myself that the
"b

/f •

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little knob was turned to CLOSED,


when it was actually at OPEN.
Now the reason for this -
there's no excuse for it. But
I'm saying the reason for
it is that the lighting is
poor, it's covered with a
hatch, and during the time
that that check is made
there's a whole lot of
scientific equipment located
in the aft airlock compart-
ment Just past EVA. And so
I did not want to move the
hatch around because it would
be banging all of these delicate,
scientific instruments. So
I ... used my flashlight and
._ lookedunderthe hatch,saw
the knob with a - lined up
on the mark except it was
the wrong mark. And - or
either that or I read the
label incorrectly. I don't
even know it's been so long
ago. But this has been over
a month. But I found it
out of configuration yesterday.
The - the problem - the -
the - the point here is that
the hatch covers, _1_ost
permanently - in other words,
this is the - this is the
standard configuration for
that hatch. It's never
really moved from that
position. And it covers
both the forward and the aft
airlock hatch. It covers
cabin pressure release valve.
And if this thing failed or
failed - poppedopen or something
like that and you'd want to
get to it in a hurry, the
hatches can give you aproblem.
So that's one of the things
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you've got to watch out for


in hatch design is that when
the things are in their
stowed position, do they
cover up items that are
flight-critical items?
Another thing, let' s see,
well, I - there's Just no
way of getting around the
fact that a hatch is - is
a a great big thing that's
hard to - to manage. Let's
see, those hatches do restrict
volume and transfer through
there. And I've let - that's
not a - that shouldn't be
really a point directed against
the hatches themselves. They
/
were - as far as workability,
I think all the hatches work
quite well, have had no
problem with them.

022 14 07 27 PLT The OWS aft - the 0W dome


hatch has a very peculiar
sequencing to its operation.
And I - I - I'm - I think
it was one of the problems
that we had with it is
during the E - prep for
EVA is that the first time
the crewman works that thing,
he usually gets all mystified
because it works different
from the others, which another
point in favor of standardization.
That is, that all hatches
ought to work the same. Now,
we got used to working the -
the lock hatches, the - the -
the hatch on the fore and
aft side of the airlock
compartment itself. Now
they work differently from
the dome hatch. Now, the
J- _A hatchworksthe - works
the same as the airlock hatches,
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weren't wor - used to working


the dome hatch. So when
encountered it on EVA,
wasn't me, but when we
encountered that situation,
then there was a lot of
confusion. So there that's
a - that's a point in favor
of standardization. So
I guess you're saying is that
if you have to have certain
safety features incorporated,
like our equipment on the dome
hatch, then you probably
ought to put them in all the
hatches, unless there's a
real good reason for not
doing it, Just - Just to
/ avoid that kind of confusion
which could occur during a
critical time.

022 14 08 4_ PLT The point is that you say,


well, you're a crewman and
you're intelligent; you
ought to be able to train
for it. And I say, that's
great ; I accept that, but
at the same time, I want
to point out _the fact that
in an emergency you're
probably operating on
20 percent of your normal
intelligence level because
of panic factor, or anything
else, ... many other things,
and you're trying to divide
your attention probably
as much as anything else..
And that probably explains
more than anything the cause
for panic. It's Just
over-division of - attempt
to over-divide your attention
I between a lofof - of
_elated and startling stimuli.

022 i_ 09 22 PLT The - go during an emergency


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you'd like to make sure


that the guy gets this
Job right. And if you
got every hatch that
operates differently,
or if you got one hatch
that's a critical hatch and
it operates Just - it
operates differently from
all the other hatches,
then - high probability
the guy's gonna screw it
up, and then - in an
emergency when he really
needs to do it right. Okay.
That's good on that. Beat
that one to death.

022 lh 09 49 PLT Okay, we're still talking


f hatches,fasteners and
so forth. So forth. The
_Lial latches on the lights,
even, I don't think they
can -

PLT They have one thing that


could - may be of advantage,
and that is - what I -
I'm not sure that that's -
that 's appropriate. The
point I was gonna mention is
that in the - in the portable
foot restraints that - that
you use for suit donning,
you - you pin the shoe in
there mo that the guy that's
doint the suit donning's
held in there nice and firm.
And the only thing is, once
you get him in there, once
you get him in that suit
there's no way he can pull
those pins; somebody else
has got to pull them for him.
It would be nice if there
"_ was some way so that the
guy could - could release
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himself. Get - could get


caught in there by himself.
If that's the only men left.

022 14 ll 07 PLT Still looking around at the -


I guess that "hatches" also
applies to doors, and I
! think I've already mentioned
that - the film vault and
the doors on the cabinets
in the aft compartment,
that the - the ineffective
way that they - they work
in many cases. Yeah, that's
already documented earlier;
there's no sense in going
over that. Still trying to -
to give you more comments
on standardization of fasteners
and sort of thing. I think
I already mentioned earlier
that it would be ncie if you
had sort of standard size
bolts; you know, like if there
wasn't 50 Jillion different
sizes of threads and nuts
and so forth. It would
be awfully nice if you could
come up with - standardize,
even if you - if you erred
slightly in overdesign; that
is, overkilling the problem
on bolt sizes for some
partlcular purpose. It 'd
sure make it an awful lot
easier to know that you
didn't have to worry about
some off-size thing.

022 14 12 44 PLT And another - another


question that's sort of
reared its ugly head here is
the conversion to the metric
system, and should we start
f--
giving attention now to
changing our way of thinking
in order to switch over to
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the metric system. Because


this is gonna really square
wave the whole system. Now,
remember we're gonna be
cooperating with the Germans
and I guess the French -
Europeans, say western Europeans,
on a lot of the space lab
work in the Shuttle. You
can guarantee that they're
not gonna switch over to -
to foot and inches. So
we're going to have to face
that problem, and I think
that fasteners are gonna fall
in that category.

022 lh 13 14 PLT And we ought to give serious


consideration to open
negotiations with those
people at an early possible
date to arrive on some size
compatabilities, dimensional
compatabilities, which - what
I'm thinking of is - well,
sure, I mean, we - we decided
that we would have a
fastener, a snap fastener
that's 5 millimeters across,
then, fine; that's great.
But what I'm talking about
is that we ought to, in -
in - in so far as the
compatibility is concerned,
decide on size limitation for
design criteria and so forth,
that we could move one way
or the other or they could
move one way or the other
in millimeters to make sure
that we didn't violate any
design constraints for structural
problems. But let - at
least that wouldn't be a
problem to worry about.

022 14 14 05 PLT But I think conversion to the


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to the metric system oughta -


ought to be really be considered
in designing an awful lot of
our fixtures. I think that
on the spacecraft itself,
like connections in the plumbing
and so forth that are never
accessible except on the ground,
we can handle that problem on
the ground. When you're
in the - in flight is no time
to start worrying whether
you're metric or inches. And
working on foreign cars and
so forth, of course, you'd -
you see this problem crop
up. It can really square -
wave you.

f CC ...

022 l& 14 47 PLT Okay. Can't think - the


straps is another area. The
long straps that we've been
using are awfully useful.
I'd like a little bit more
of the ... velcro on the -
on the ends of them. Doesn't
seem like that that's enough.
I find that the straps are
very useful as - in order to
strap on to an area and Just
use the velcro on it as for
attaching other things to.
In other words, I Just use
that as a portable working
area to - to attach hook
velcro to.

022 14 15 28 PLT Which again brings up the


point that this pegboard
design idea I was talking
about a while ago would be
nice if somehow or another
you Could - you had an al -
-- you had flexibility to go
in and Just install small
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little plates, squares, circles,


and so forth on this pegboard.
If you had velcro on the
backside of that you get
all kinds of flexibility
in - in making up your own
owrk area around a given
piece of equipment; also
you could install the
hardware. So this - pegboard's
design, plus all the fixtures
that - and auxiliary devices
that could be designed to be
compatible with it, would
certainly give you all kinds
of flexibility. And if you
had little straps with
metal plates on the end of
them that would fit into the
pegboard, then you'd have -
you'd ppt - stick that foot
into the - say, maybe three
prongs into the pegboard.
And on the other end of it
would be a strap and you
could tie things down with
it. Or maybe you should have
a clipboard that - that pushes
into that pegboard; now
you got clipboard at your
workstation.

022 lh 16 33 PLT Or you have " I'm looking


at the AMS adapter right now,
which we don't have a good
place to - to stow it. It's
ni - it's convenient for us
to stow this next to the minus
Z-SAL because that's where we
always use it. Well, you
could make up an S063 retaining
plate, and then put little -
little - at the four corners
of the thing you could put
little feet that engage the
pegboard.And now you put
that in the pegboard there,
and now you can slip the S063 adapter
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right on that plate and take


it in and out of there; you
got a semi-permanent attachment
there. Or you could move
it if you want out of the
way, too.

022 14 17 08 PLT The point is that I think


that the - we ought to
wallpaper the inside of the
spacecraft with this pegboard
pattern that I'm talking
about, or something equivalent
to it. I'm not trying to sell
that, but something equiva-
lent to that, so we can
Just - we were working with
sore of an erector set, if
you'll pardon the expression;
I hate to use that term
because I - that may be a
derogatory term to somebody.
But if you have a sort of
a - an erector set capability
at all your workstations,
you can Just sort of build
up your own ... volume
and area for accommodating
a given piece of equipment.
And I'll voice again that
this stuff can also be removed
quite easily, too, to provide
for the next axperiment that
comes up.

022 14 17 52 PLT Another nice thing about having


the pegboard thing is that
you'd be - you could remove
the - the - remove your -
•.. fixture from the pegboard
and go tie it down _ome
other place. You could stick
it in a pegboard some other
place, in an unused area.
Then you could pick it
up and go back over and
stick it right back on to
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reestablish your configuration


which you've built up ad hoc
on the site as the need
arises. And it gives you
tremendous stowage capibility,
too, this pegboard thing,
as a - wallpapering the
spacecraft with the pegboard.

022 lh 18 23 PLT Okay, I'm sorry. I had to deal


with latches. That's
what I was talking about
there; I got - before I
got off on that tirade.
Another - another thing
about having that ... capa-
bility is that you would
minimize the - we - we
have velcros, but we'd like
to have more velcros spread
over the spacecraft because
we find new places we'd like
to have it. And we hate to
Just go put - putting it
around indiscriminately. This
way you could move the stuff,
on little plates. Okay,
I guess - PLT. I'm sorta
running out of gas here; I'll
Just terminate this, covering
the other ideas I have in
postflight debriefing.

022 14 19 l0 PLT PLT out.

TIME SKIP

022 14 37 17 PLT This is the PLT. The time


is 14:B7. Debriefing two
handheld photographs. The
one taken at 14:31; the
next one at 14:B5. Ch_rlie
X-ray 46 is the magazine
in the Hasselblad. First,
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frame number 166, snowmelt


pattern in North Dakota. Shot
was taken looking westward
at early morning - local time.
I opened it up to 56; I hope
that was far enough. What
I saw was an unusual snowmelt
pattern in South Dakota Just
to the northeast of the
Black Hills, extending in an
north/northwesterly-south/southeasterly
direction, generally speaking.
The rest of the area was snow
covered, of course, except for
the Black Hills, which for
some reason or other had
become snow-free earlier than
the rest of the surrounding
terrain.

CREW ...

022 14 38 07 PLT And the next shot was taken


over Hudson Bay - south of
Hudson Bay looking north to
James B_y and Hudson Bay.
The subject was drifts and
falling units of snow and/or
ice. I don't know which,
and I don't know whether they
were really ice - whether it
would be ice or the snow. But
the - there was a ... It
was early morning, local
time, there, and the drift
patterns on the east shore
an - of Hud - James Bay and
also Hudson Bay were shown in
very startling and fine relief.
So I took one frame there which
was more or less a panorama
in nature but should correlate
well in the previous photographs
taken.

022 14 38 43 PLT PLT out.

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002 15 19 55 PLT Okay, the £LT coming up on 15:20.

002 15 20 00 PLT MARK. Standing by to start S073 at 15:22.


Filter A~l is installed, wardroom
window cover is closed; set up per pad,
520, shutter knob P.

PLT And SAL door is open. Standing by - -

CC ... your tape recorder ... pass

PLT Rog. Give you a call.

CC Thank you.

PLT Okay, frame number i is 15:22 coming


up in 5 seconds.

002 15 22 O0 PLT MARK. 4, 3, 2, i -

002 15 22 ii PLT M_. Advance film; standing for


15 :23.

PLT Stnad by -

002 15 23 00 PLT MARK. Starting a 2-minute exposures.


Ed, at 29, I start a lh-minute
exposure. I got - so I moved up to
that point.

SPT Okay, Bill.

PLT That's l minute.

PLT Stand by -

002 15 25 01 PLT MARK. ADvance film; and waiting for


no earlier than 15:26:30, 26.

002 15 26 0_ PET MARK. Okay, 26. Standing by to start at


2 minutes, 15:26:30, I'll give them
5 seconds Just to m__ke sure. Stand by -

002 15 26 35 PLT MARK. Starting a 2-minute exposrue at


15:26:35. Exposure number 4,
frame number 4, ... count down, Okay.
There's one m_nute.
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PLT Stand by. lO seconds, roughly.


And, 28 and 30 - standby.

002 15 28 36 PLT MARK. Okay, there's ten to the


second two minute exposure, stand
by for 15:29. Stand by -

002 15 29 00 PLT MARK.

CC ... describe it is, if you look out


along the center of our axis for the
ATM ... along the plus Y axis of the
plus side of the ATM rack is the location
of CMG-2 and ...?

PLT I think so, plus Y is actually out the


left, as your looking forward X, right?

CC Roger. And i'ts the CMG is dead set


f- centerwork station;as you go along
the ... trail.

PLT What's that?

CC The CMG is in the 00 gimbal -

002 15 B7 39 SPT SPT at 15:37. ATM ops, orbit began


at 14:27. No EREP alternate. Building
block 32 was done at the beginning of the
orbit. And, also at the very conclusion
of the orbit, a one minute continuous
mode was given to 52 below 40OK. I set
the POOL UP at 4:08, active region 31.
I ... inot recieving some very good
dat_ on ... active region 31 and it
certainly was fluctuating in both location
of brightness as well as magnitude.

002 15 38 38 SPT Oxygen VI count which I maxint_ize at


the very geninning spatially was going
between number 4 to 40,000. As I
watch it I can see it change in a mater of
l0 seconds or so, going on 10,000 in one
instance. Thought perhaps I had repositioned
or repointed, but that was not the case.
_ Anotherdroppedfrom about40 to 30.
For patrol background I gave 54 and 56
exposures at 52 minutes remaining,
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32 minutes remaining, and 12 minutes


reamining. That's every 20 minutes.
525 minutes remaining, it - when we
carried out building block 32, I gave a
patrol SHORT and a MSS6h.

002 15 39 53 SPT For the remainder of the two sequences


the one at 32 and the one at 12 remaining,
I left the 54 GRATING in. On a note of
explanation on . .. procdures, a flare, it
looks like 82A and 82D went into running
their flare modes relatively late,
comparatively speaking, and reason here
being two fold, one is the X-rays as
well as I could tell from the information
you have given me have been quicker to
rise than the XUV.

002 15 40 55 SPT I've been receiving information that which


f-" I have observedin the previousflares,
in - expecially in the 82A instrument, it's
that after the repid rise in X-rays then
the XUV will come in. Part of the reason
for the delay being the film problem and
not willing to go into a flare mode in
those two instruments unless I was sure
we had something. And as it was, we still
ran those down pretty far. So my - again
my rational for - for using the film in
that manner. I thought at first that
we were getting a flare rise coordinated
observations with the X-ray instruments and
I think it probably is as early as we've
gotten one before or I believe earlier.

002 15 42 13 SPT We've got only about 2 weeks of observing


left on an accumulation of 8 months
worth of data already. We ought to get
a good flare rise. And, also, CMG number 2
behavior indicates that we may not need 2
more weeks of observing. All this means
is that we Just got, to keep on going to
get the data on it. That was the rationale.

_. CC ...

002 15 42 45 SPT SPT out.


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002 15 42 48 PLT Okay. Okay. Thank you. Stand by to


terminate 14-minute exposure. Coming
up in about 7 seconds. Stand by -

002 15 43 02 PLT MARK. okay, advance fr_m_ and wait now


for 44:00; let's do it at 43:30.

002 15 43 32 PLT Stand by. MARL. Starting 8-minute


exposure that will terminate at 51:30.
Terminating recording tem_oorarily.

PLT Okay PLT starting the recording again.


53:30. Coming up on 51:30 in about 1
minute. 30 seconds to go. lo seconds.
Stand by.

002 15 51 30 PLT MARK. T_rmination of last exposure.


Okay and I have no frames remaining.
I'm going to give you a 10-second one
f aftersunrise.Standby -

002 15 51 46 PLT MARK. l0 seconds. Stand by. Okay, I


guess we're not supposed to go back.
All right, that's it.

002 15 52 04 PLT PLT out.

002 16 05 06 SPT SPT at 16:05.

002 16 05 25 SPT

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022 16 25 52 PLT This is the PLT reporting the


handheld photographs. AT 1h:48 -
correc time right now is 16:25 -
at lh:h8 - I took l, 2, 3 pictures
of ... northwest AFrica, mainly
for general coverage. AT 14:48,
also, no -1h:43 somewhere along
in there, a picture of handheld 93,
frame number 171 and Charlie X-ray
46. 14:59 I took a picutre in
the Africa nation of Zair, which
is a lake area, two lakes in
there. And I remember reading
something in there about water
management in Africa being a big
thing. 16:20, I took one picture
of the Cape Verde Islands. And the
subject was the island - vor -
cloud voPtexes of - vortices that are
f gneratedby the Cape Verde Islands.

022 16 26 55 PLT Now we have taken, I think, on previous


days almost classical shaped of
VonKarmon vortices back-to-back.
And today they were not nearly as
classical in apperance so I wanted
to take a picture of - of the -
of the cloud wakes of vor - vortex
patterns, to give a - for comparison,
_en they aren't so well formed.

022 16 27 21 PLT Also, at about 14:51 and this was


over the - let ms get that map.

022 16 27 56 PLT Near the town of Sokoto, which is


near HH91-1, _let me see if I can
_get some coordinates here - 5
degrees last longitude by 12 degrees
north.
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022 16 28 ll PLT 5 degrees east of longitude - about


12 degrees north, there is a big fire;
smoke was spreading out. And take
everything - all of the following
cc_ments are a grain of salt. What
it looked like to me was that there -
First off, there was very little wind
at all. It looked perfectly c_Im.
This slope was rising and sort of
building and diffusing out into what
appeared to be smother stratosphere.
And then the slope was spreading in
a generally west - northwesterly,
southeasterly direction. It looked
like it was going both ways. I know -
I know that doesn't sound right,
but that's what it looked like and -
and - and there was this stratospheric
dust ball that extended for hundreds,
f and hundredsof miles in both directions.
It - It did not spread to the northeast_
it did spread to the southwest in other
words_ St was sort of a - if you took
the compass rose at Sakota, if that's
the correct location of this thing,
and drew a line right through Sakota
northwest to southeast, smd it would -
the smoke was spreading northwest and
southeast and also diffusing to the
southwesterly direction, hut the northeast
half of the circle was relatively
clear.

022 16 29 42 PLT Now I want to make a cogent which


again it appears to be pretty far
fetched, but I've noticed it on two
days running and this is a prevasive
and extensive cirrus development -
cirrus cloud develo!mment which extends
from off of the - nearly off the
coast of Somalia and the southern
end of the Arabian Peninsula way out
into the Indian Ocean for, say, 1500-
2000 miles. As far as you can see.
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And the - the peculiar character


of the cirrus cloud is that they
are dirty looking, and they appear
much darker in shade than - I know -
than - than the other clouds in the
same area. You - you would expect
them to appear Just as light as the
others although less dense in
brightness because of the - the
less dense nature of a cirrus cloud.
And any - anyway, the thought that
occurred to me is that these - these
cirrus clouds somehow or another have
ice crystals with - even dust particles
in the condensation nucleii or crystal -
I don't know what you call them,
nucleation points or what for formation
of ice crystals in that this has a -
f a large importson the formationof
the cirrus band which extends from
the inner area of this Scmalian
Peninsula down in a southeasterly
direction across the Indian Ocean for
as far as you can see.

PLT Now the cirrus clouds I saw today at


Sakota appeared that - the - they had
that same appearance. They looked like
they had a striated texture of a
cirrus cloud, the fine delicate
structure of a cirrhs cloud, but they
also were dirty. And I - It occurred
to me e_rlier today that possibly that
was the formation agent for the cirrus
clouds that I saw extending well out
into the - big - big - It looked like
a Jet streamer path is what it looked
like. A long band of cirrus quite
apart from the other clouds that
were in the area. In other words,
it didn't seem to be associated in
any way nor phologically with the
other clouds that were - lower clouds
that were in the area.
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022 16 31 59 PLT So when I saw these - when I saw


these cirrus clouds in the -
or around Sakota I thought perhaps
that there was something to that -
this idea and I - so I'll Just throw
it out for what it's worth.

PLT If it's true, then the dust that's


formed over those - over the Sahara
or in these other parts of the sontinent
of Africa have a far reaching effect
at least on the cirrus cloud formation
and what I saw was extending out into
the INdian ocean.

022 16 32 32 PLT PLT out.

022 16 33 03 PLT Okay, it's the PLT. The time is 16:32


and I Just mentioned this dust that
f I thoughtwas possiblya formation
agents observed. I looked out the
window and low and behold extending
out perpendieblar to the flight path
to I think the east is a huge area of
dust - dust clouds that - they extend
again almost as far as I can see.

PLT I'm gonna get another reading on it.

022 16 37 18 PLT This is PLT, again at 16:37. The


area of very wide-reaching dust
apparently was blowing off of the
coast around Liberia or Guinea or
Senegal, and this was a very large
area of dust extending all the way
to our flight path which is only
probably i00 - maybe 150 miles off
shore. And it looked to be about
well over i00 miles wide, and it
was extending approximately perpendicular
to our flight path and I don't know
how far under our spacecraft and
on out into the ATlantic it we - it
went.
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022 16 38 02 PLT PLT out.

TIME SKIP

022 16 55 l0 CDR This is the CDR at 16:55 Zulu, debriefing


the 16:Oh ATM pass. While waiting for
16:04 to roll around and in order to
start building block 28, it looked -
the ground alerted me to a rising
X-rea count and I noticed that a little
bright plage area right in the center
of active region number 31was beginning
to brighten up. I shifted my
attention to the X_V MON. And observed
a brightening there. And as the
bright point went up I went ahead and
activated S054, 8055, and S056 but I
f bumbledand left 54 in 256 instead
of 6h.

022 16 56 07 CDE I had them all running by 15:59 and


52 seconds, and at 16:01:18 I finally
woke up and put H-ALPHA 1 to 4 frames
per minute permitted. This bright
point in H-alpha in the center of the
active region stayed quite bright.
The PMEC count got up to - let's
see ; I think I remember seeing about
640 was the highest I saw. And then
I saw the brightness - the bright
point shift -_or I should say a
brightness in the bright point shift
to another bright point which was
about 20 arc seconds to the north.
In this particular case that was to
the right since I was rolled 5400,
minus 5400.
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CDR The - By that time the PMEC was


down about 580, bumping between 550
and 600. And it dis not pick up
at - at all, it stayed right where
it was. The oxygen VI count was
hitting 20,000 to 30,000 in the -
in the MIRROR, LINE SCAN as it would
pass over these two bright areas.
Luckily the second bright point was
within the MIRROR, LINE SCAN and so
I didn't even have to do any shifting.
Of course, I didn't plan on doing
it anyway, but it was very fortiutous
in that there was no shifting. It
really would have been desirable. And
finally the whole thing began to quiet
down; so at 16:09 I terminated the
flare mode and went into building
block 28. I got most of building
block 28 done,but finallydecided
that I had better truncate with
MIRROR, 3 RASTER still running. I
truncated with 31 minutes remaining
so that I'd have a good waek at
getting most of building block 14 done.
Took me a few minutes to get pointed
and squared away and interpret what
I was doing and a question to the
ground as well. Ended up at a
ROLL of i0 to 800. And then building
b_ock 14 got the 54 stuff done. EndM
that - the 2h-minute exposure finished
Just about 15 seconds past h00 K. And
I truncated 56 =and 55 at 250 K. 56,
I'm l_retty sure, in the PABTROL, LONG
MODE, hung up and - in ... number 5.
And I finally got the picture that -
it looked to me like it was hung so
I went ahead and terminated PABTOL,
LONG and started PATROL, N01_4AL. And
we were about h minutes into PATROL,
NORMAL. We were - I .think we were
looking at filter number 4 ia the
window when I finally truncated that
at 250 K. S055A I truncated . I _on't
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remember what the line was there.


It was more than halfway finished
though. Okay. While we were Sun
centered during building block 28
and after we finished the STANDARD
in 52, I took a look at the WHITE
LIGHT CORONOGRAPH and I didn't see
any significant change between that
and the picture that was taken earlier
this morning by Ed. But I'll go
ahead and describe it anyway. Out
atthe 9 o'clock position relative to
north or about 270 degrees with a
nice wide-base streamer that went
on out to a point - but it looked
like it overlaid another streamer
that was behind it. And the side
of that streamer was rougly parallel
to the - the streamer in front. So
it made it look _t quickglancelike
a very wide, broad-based diffuse
streamer. But it looked to me like
it was one rather strong, pointed
streamer with a wide base overlaid
over a rather weak one in the back.
Down at 4 o'clock with a very narrow
spike that - that's spread at the
base and went out to a point at Just
about the limit of the field of view
of the WHITE LIGHT CORONOGRAPH. That
1B0 was a rather wide - no not too
wide. I shouldn!t say that; I should
sa - i should say, oh, about 7 to
8 degrees wide a very weak streamer
coming out. And then about 5 degrees
down forn that, at about, oh, 2S0 or
something like that, was a weak, thin
streamer of about 3 degrees in width.
And in between that one and the spike
I mentioned down at - at h o'clock tkre
was a very short spike, also very weak
at B o'clock. XUV MON: my attenticn
was mainly glued on active region 31
which had lots of fluctuating bright
points in it, for that center bright
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point and the one to the north


throughout the whole pass. I noticed
that when one brightened, the other
d_med and when one - and vice versa.
The other bright point remained rather
stable I thought and didn't really catch
Ey attention at all. Okay, I've
powered down for EREP now and that
terminates the debrief.

022 17 01 50 CDR CDR out.

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2 rate gyro termperatures : X-ray 5, 96 de-


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6 90 degrees; Zulu 5, 95 degrees; Zulu
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022 17 27 31 PLT PLT out.

022 18 00 27 CDR This is the CDR. The subject - or the


_ time is 18:00 Zulu. The subject is
:: Mh87-2 Delta, crew debriefing. Voice
I_- record. How effective are the various
i_ , tools used thus far; In particular which
_- are poorly suited for use in zero g? Did
L= _ you find that you needed any tools other
uJ _± than those provided in the kits? -

=2 :_ 022 18 O0 52 CDR Let's see. I think for the most part I


'" t found the tools, most of them, to be ¢-"
_u ' suited okay to zero g. I think one general -
-. ! featurethat'salways good,that'svery
22 ! helpful, and that is to have tools with a
_ -_ retention sort of device on them. For in- --
_: 2_- : stance, if you've ever seen an electrician's --
0
I 2_ ,E screwdriver, it has a littlepair of "_
2_ fingers that slide down on the shank of --
,--, 27 the screwdriverand could be used to hold _-.
0 2_ , S_AII screwswhen you're puttingthem L
o_ _ into radio sets or somethinglike that.
0 _0 _ I've foundthat to be ratherhandy at home
_- _' _ and kind of missedthemhereon occasion, r-.

_ 022 18 01 h0 CDR I think the - the Allen wrenches and the


equipment that we have for the Allen
_ wrenches is pretty good. I haven't used
3_ the speed handle as much as l'd thought
I would. I was the guy who insistedthat
" _ we take a speed handle up here. I 'm sure
:7: it was used by the guys in the activation
_:: phase in the SL-2, but we haven't had as
:' much of an opportunityto use to here be-
_ cause we haven't had as much stuff that
_ required a lot of twisting.

:: 022 18 02 17 CDR I 'm mentally going through the tools


drawers right now, to see if there were
_- any particular tools that were poorly
_3 , suited for use in zero g. And rigbt off
hand I can't - I can't think of an:,'. The
" biggest single problem is tool retention.
The little caddies are useless. Absolutely
useless. I tried it a couple of times
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and then gave up on it. And now whenever


" I need tools, I stick them in my waist-
belt or in my pocket or somethinglike
-_ that, and I tape them to the wall or where
- ever the surface is that I'm working, but
_: I don't even fool with that darn caddy any-
more. That thing's just more trouble than
it's worth. There's too many hooks and
loops and things to snag on. And ill-fit-
_0 _ ring, ill-mainly ill-fitting restraints
: there so that your tools - if you put them
12 i in there, your tools Just float out again
_ on you if you bump anything. So I'm afraid w

L_ our tool caddy didn'twork out as far as -


_- I'm concerned.

_7 022 18 03 32 CDR I guess one of the biggest pain in the necks -


__ _s that we've had is the tools have been
_ those loose items that have been added that
_ 20 don'thave any placeto be retained. And -
._ 2_ then - then that particulardrawer of
22 the tool chestis Justaboutas much .
_q 23 as - a bother as is the film vault. Now we've -:
-- 2_ aSready talked about the film vault and --
_] 25 what a great,grosspain in the rear end -_
-- 2_ that thing is, because nothing is retained -
u_ _7 in the drawers. Well, we find ourselves "_
O 2_. with the same sort of problem with the
2_ tool box in thoseareaswhere - where
-" _'_" they're not restrained. We got a couple
,_ o of little utility bags with tools in them
and they just float around in there. And
_ if you open the drawer above, the utility
• bag smartly floatsup behind and then you
_ can't close the doggonedraweragain. So .
you cuss and swear, pull the drawer clear
i out, push the - push the utility bag down.

022 18 04 27 CDR The Allen wrenches are loose in the bag


.; and when you want to try to find an Allen
wrench to use, it's - it's just a - it's
a laugh, really. You have to fightyour
_ i way through it. What we should have had
_ i was some sort of a little Mosite block
'_ _
J or something with all the Allen wrenches
- !i inserted into it in - in order, in little
-'-I holes in the top or something like that, so
_ that you could take the whole kit 9f Allen
wrenches and - in one blob and take them
with you and use them and put them back.
Much like you have in your tool box at home.
I don't think anybody in their tool box

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r- at- home ,k%n_n6re _has loose All°en-wrenches.


You can buy a set of Allen wrenches in
a nice little container quite cheaply, and
it's very handy - the little plastic
containers. And I think we could
c have done the same thing with Mosite
up here. And it certainlywould
have made those Allen wrenches a whole
lot easierto work with. Now the
_ Allen head screwdriversand all that
_ stuff; they're very nicely stowed
_- built. Got no - no quarrelwith that _
_ atall. L_

!- 022 18 05 29 CDR Would like to - let's see. Did you find you .
LLJ
_. neededanytoolsotherthan
L) _ thoseprovidedin thh kits? Yeah. Very -
[,
_ definitely. I think we should've
_- _o had a drillup here, I think we should've _
ZC had a soldering iron,and I thinkwe -
needed a screwdriver between the 3/16 and -_
_ 2-" the 3/8. There should have been O
_ _3 about a i/h or 5/16 size in there. That
L_. wouldhavebeen veryhandyto have.
uJ 25 Othertoolsthat I missed. No, ___
-- 2_ that's- that'sabout it. I think a drill --
r_

u_ _7 and soldering iron would have been _


O 2_': realgoodthingsto have. C"
77 ----
", _- 18 06 26 CDR The crescentwrench is certairilya - is
_- _! certainlya tool that's - since it's - be- _
_: cause it's adjustable,and it's handy.
But it's reallynot a good tool to
__ use. I've gottenprejudicedin my work 21
_ at home, againstcrescentwrenches. ..
- And I hardly ever use them. And the
one up here - what few times it has been
_. used is really - really hasn't been
_• i that useful at all. I don't know
i that we really even need something
like that. I can't think of any
_,_. other tools I might have needed up
. _ here. On a couple of occasions,I've
_ i wished I had a drill in order to drill
_- somethingout. A drill and a set of
f _ bits.
z_

-'.'.
_022 18 07 24 CDR .... What postural adjustments have you had to
make in order to accomodate task
• . performance in zero g? What major
muscle groups do you enjoy in zero
g? What would you offer as design
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recon_endation for future vehicles


based on these considerations? Postural
adjustments. I guess - we find our-

= _ serves kind of working everywhere we


I go--
Y ;022 18 07 50 CC Skylab, Houston. Ascension for
: 8 minutes...
^
v

_ CDR - - in sort of a half crouch.

_-_ CC ... information for the CDR. C

15 CDR Standy by.


L_, '- I X

<a_ _ ! CC ... since you started ... Z-LV - _


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_- 2_ 011 18 08 h6 CDR Okay, the muscle groups that you F:
0_ use the most is posturalposition- C
_. L_ ' ing is your stomach muscles, I _:
----_ -- _ ! think. For the most part, any push- -- -
O 2J ' ing, shoving, hauling, anything like _-
2_ that that you do, you use the normal -
}7 ' sets of muscles. But I think for _-

O 2_ _i most little work Jobs we do, where __-_


=_ 29 you want to be anchored, you - you're --
O _-:, always in sort of a crouch. Sort of _
._!: a knees flexed,butt down a little --
_-} bit, shoulders rounded a little
bit - Just, you know, kind of down
a little bit toward being in a crouch.
_-_ And of course in one g, in something -.
like that, you'd be standing up straight
with your knees locked or something like
•[ that.

_ 022 18 09 38 CDR Based on the considerations, I would


-_ suggest that things like tool benches,
_ work benches, be chest high. That
4_ is, where you don't have to go into
-_5 a crouch to work since you can anchor
-_5 your feet and work with your muscles
_ _ relaxed, relaxed instead of pulled
_ up a_little bit___Cause • "t' ll cer-_
tainly make you a feel a whole lot
. _ more rested when you've finished your
_ob. That's essentially it. If
your - tool retention, again, is
something that's got to he solved. And
I don't have any good answer _or you on
that. Velcro on them - this doggone
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I ........... t-/ther we ak--velcr o, -_n_d i-t-doe-sn]t
L[ i
- _ hang on as well as it should. But
we certainly need something like the
,i coo - tool caddy only something more
"_i efficient.

022 18 i0 h6 CDR The previous skylab crew observed


that handling large masseswas far
i less difficult than multiple items.
Very definitelyI would agree with
i2 their assessment. Large masses are
"- extremely
easyto handle. For t
_ instance,
the S183,SS's,the por- -_
"_ tablewatertank,Just aboutany __
_ largemass. For that matter,even -_
_ the M509 and the T020 are quite easy --
2-_, _ to handle. They're a lot less £ri
_ botherthan - than a bunch of small U_
<-= 1_ masses, and that - that is very ---
_- _'.i true.

C
_ 022 18 ll 31 CDR What logistice techniques have you _
-- -- ?_ _ employed to cope with the problem? --
'_
-- 2_ ii And that'sthe problemof the small _-'
_ ' ones all getting away from you. I -_
Lu 27 guess - I've used two. I will either ?_
0 ZF use a bag or I'lluse tape in order b_
_ -_? to tether all the small items toget- Z
O -'_ _ her and thenwe make our move - making
2" ! the moveto whereyou want them. But
_2 those are the - really the two best
S ways to go to that l've found,so far Z
as the use of eitherbag or the tape.

- '022 18 12 08 CDR We have a couple of lockers out


in the wardroomwhere we have loose
items of food inside,like drinks
or something like that. And they're
• really not too difficultto fool
with. All you have to do is open the
locker, and quickly selectwhat you
-s want, get it, close the locker before
-' you disturb all the others in there;
-'_ and that's really no great problem.
_- If you want to get into a locker
_- or drawer or somethingand get out
_ seyeral of the small items_ or several
different small items, than you got
- yourself a problem. You - you either

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_ got to put them in your pockets


or in your shirt or in a bag, or tape
them together in order to move them.
And I guess the best example of that is
_ when we come up to the food lockers
i to the pantryto get - get food for
, the high-density day or something
like that. Usually have multiple
_ items to pick up and the best - best
_ questionis what will I put them in?
_' Or how will I get all these cans of
I,
,- fooddownthere? And we've tried _-
"_ a littlebag, we'vetried over cans. _
_' I personallypreferjustto stuff
them intomy shirt. It'sa whole -2
'_ lot easier.
.J.
L- _ 022 18 13 30 CDr Says, have you found that you could
_ _ accomplish maintenance tasks reason- .
-: _ ably well on-line or at - or at U_
L. _ improvised work sites,or would "
-- you - thesechoreshavebeen simpli- -_
fledby having a dedicatedmaintenance -_
----_: -- _- _ station? Would you recomend that - a ,
-) _ dedicated maintenance station for --
-_ i futurelong-termmissions? Yes, --
'-- _ i indeed,I would. I would reco_nenda _
O 2_ _ good - a good littlework benchwith ,
-_ a vice or two on it and plentyof re- --
_ _ tainingdevices. Lots of broom holder -
_- _ type thingsthat you could snap tools -I
[_ into and retain them well. Bill's
_ got a - got a few goodideason that. -
I thinkhe's alreadygiventhem to you. -

_ 022 18 lh 24 CDR Okay. Improvised work sites are


reallykind of a pain. You get a task
that re - that require's a work site and
you spend more doggone time improvising
a work site than you do actually doing
the chore, quite frequently. So I - I
_ really do think a dedicated maintenance
_ stationwould be good. You ought to
_' have lots of good retention features
_ there. In-line maintenancetasks - or
_ on-line,I should say, are really no
-_ great problem with the right kind
/_ _•_
..... of tool, r ight_ki nd _of-wrenches_ and
screwdrivers and things like that.
" They really aren't extremely tough.
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! -022-i8-15-i3--CDR What's your prime method of removing


reactive forces when you must exert
linear push or pull forces during
a task? Well, essentially,I try to
line push and pull forcesup with
, the - vertical - or the longitudinal
axis of my body. And - if it's just
a very, very heavy force. If it's not
? a very heavy force, I'll do it laterally
by 2 placingone hand, you know,
_ againstwhat I'm goingto pull,
.2 for instance,and then essentiallypush
;z with one hand and pull with the w

;-' other. But I think the prime method


_ of removing reactive forces depends
_" on how thickthe reactiveforceis. -
_ !-_ You know,how big a force is required. --
2.-

_ 022 18 16 04 CDR Removing torques, the same thing. Tn :"


-_ - any case,you had darn well better
: have your feetanchored if you can't :
_: 2_ use the other hand to remove the
-_ tL force,becauseif you don't,either =
_-- _,---
-- --'" linear or torque forces are just --
'_
-__ L.
_ _ going to seing you around and you'll -
-
get nothing doneon them. Cases _
_:< "" in point are things like going up
_ and - and connecting power cables
C '" either high or low accessorypower
_" .... cables or water tank hoses or gas
-" _ hoses or somethinglike that. If you
z: go put a hose in your h_nd a-ha_.,,
to push it into a receFtacle, y_u're
L- , going to go the other way• ",,"
......
_ .........
.
" : thing else will stay where you _u'-
it, you know; and you - ycu'v,. _-=::e
" andnothing's _'

022 18 XX XX CDR Removing torques, -'" _"'_


hand is usu - usually c-_. _" _:"_ i
can anchor your f,eet• , .........
'. the torque with your be.,:v,"'_'h_. y ",::"
_: feet. So you know _ber.".: :L .,,:':::'to
-- tendency to es[_kDii_:!
' "" "" :_u ['.':"_ 2- :':-','," ""

_.7 system as a _*'r_e o1" rcf_,r,,:_ce :'. :"


_c ' locomot - locomotin_ "lu_ w-.rkin._
z~ _ within various modules. "'_e_:.,.' _"
_. _ .- guess what you ?.
IVA coordinate systen_ - t!;'_<=:[L: :!"
:. refers back to the Z.....[::;J

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i [ your last debriefing guide,and i


i
I that had to do with the floor/ceiling
3 i relationand all that sort of thing,
._i and aboutwhether there was a definite '
i relationshipthere,that would have i
affectedus and it's the same relation-
_ i
shiphere.

? 1022 18 17 51 CDR Case at point is coming through the


_; dome down to the experiment compart-
',: ment. We all either go head first
_2 or feet first. We never go, you know,
]3 sideways. That is to say, with our ,_
7,'- long axis perpendicular to the X-axis. _:
" i The vehicle were - we are inclined -4
_., _ i in here to usuallydo our travelling -_
_ _-,t with our bodies parallel to the --
<"_ _ , X-axis of the vehicle.

-_ [? 022 18 18 21 CDR I might add that frequently, when


_ I comethrough the dome,the dome
_; 2_ hatch,feet first,I get the definite O
23 impression that I am in a high place
-- _ -- _ goingdownto a low placeand that --
'_ 2;. ' I couldfalland hurtmyself. You -4
-- --6 know, you get - you get that feeling --
_- of being up high and looking down. i
'_: 2[ However, if you turn around and come O
_o in head first,you don'tget that ! .-Z
_L _; feeling at all. Everything seems to ': _q
_- -_ i kind of relateokay in zero g, so ' -4
_. [ that's king of a perculiarthing
_ '7)
we carry over with us from 1 g. i 7_
F-
022 18 18 57 CDR I think that you very definitely should <
have some sort of a coordinate system
establishedor a coordinatesystem
in mind when you design the space-
craft, for - for the future because the
- disorientationthat you suffer
going from one module to the other
when they're not compatible, is - is i
i quite a bother really. Now the best
-- ' example of that is - is going
: to and from the cormnand module from
: the airlockmodule.
i

_ _OPP 18_19.31 _CDI% T get, you know,_a coordinate_system ....


embedded in my mind and I whistle
; ; down the tunnel and into the com_nand .
module and zin_, all of a sudden
it's upside down. And I have to turn
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- _ around and picture where the couches


7 : are and mentally picture where the - the
' instrument panel is, and then I
_' have to do sort of a 90 degree rans-
form in order to get myself reoriented
to the cow,hand module reference coordin-
- ate system. And that - you know, that's
: something that if you could avoid that's
good, because - having to work between
_- say two compartments,in a hurry, excuse
_', : me, if you got an orientation problem
!; going from one compartment to the other, L
:- : you're going to waste time, and or
make mistakes - if you have a coordina- ,:
tion problem, throw a switch in the __
wrong direction.
;- ._ : --
__ - 022 18 20 38 CDR Right now is where I can get my licks J
-: in at the STS panel. As far as I'm q.

-_ : concerned,the circuitbreakerson the -


_ circuit breaker panel 200, 201, and -_
z_ 202, violate my sensibilities, that is
D
" my internal reference system. And I i --
always have to think twice or three _ -J
z 2_ timesbeforeI throwa breakerand :
-- :: remember that throwing the breaker i -
;
--.4
-- towardthe - toward the panel is closing ;
:i it - throwing it away is opening it. I ' '--
._ have to think that out Just about
every time because the doggone circuit
_-- breakersgo in I kind of think,in the
-- wrong direction, but that depends on
your point of view. The orientation
of that panel is really kind of screwy.._
But anyway, those are sort of examples
of the IVA coordinate system. The
kind that screw you up.

022 18 22 12 CDR As far as locomotion is concerned, the


frame of reference for locomotion,
I don't think that's too much of a prob-
lem, but for working, I think it's a
" problem when you've got to reorientate
yourself going from one compartment to
" the other. What's your opinion concerning
the advisability of exerting design
-'- influence to standardize the multiple
-, _ types_of soap_snaps_ latches_ reta_ners__
restraints, doors, that you've been
. confronted with aboard Skylab? I .

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! r I think - I think all these types
2 of retainers ought to be standardized
3 as much as - is feasible. I
4 recognize the fact that for some uses,
5 you can't use the same restraints
6 system or snap or latch system that
7 you used in another,but I really don't
8 like the dial latch at all. I think
9 that - that thing is a bu_er. Partic-
!0 ularly if you're going to move
11 heavy - heavythings.
12 I
13 011 18 22 37 CDR Two things about the dial latch D
14 that are a bother: number i, like _-q
]5 for instance, the film vault door -4
]6 You got that little bitty dial latch
17 holding that big heavy door, and when _%
_ you're closingthat big heavy door,
19 if the dial latch manages to "C,
20 float- that is,up against the door,
21 andyou closethe doors,it is N]
22 quite frequentthat latch will be between ©
23 the door and what you're closingit on -7
_ andyou bendthe diallatchor you __
£5 Jam it on the opposite surface and --
26 causeit to Shiftits positionon
27 its mounting screws and then you
2_ have a dickens of a time getting ;_
29 the dial latch hooked over its --
_3 little plate I. That's a real bother.

_2 i011 18 23 23 CDR Another thing is the dial latches on a


3: ! lot of theseboxes,they they float. -_
-- _ They needto have frictionin the _-
Z_ ! lower hinge. Because you undo one dial --
<, : latch and then you move to the next
dial latch and undo that and the
_ one you Just undid m%y float back
and re - rehook itself. And you think
4_ you got all 2 or 3 or h dial latches
-_ undone, and you pull up on the handle
42 on the door that you're trying to
43 close and nothinghappens. Then
44 you got to go back very carefully,get
4_ them all off, make sure they're all off
4_. before you can open the one that you
47 want tp get to. And that's a time
4__ _ consumer- -Jahat_'a-a _real--_aste.

_i_.022 18 24 16 CDR I think I mentioned that to you in _ :

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I
I an earlier b_iefing when I was howling
2 about the fi_m vault and I still feel
3 Just as emotional about that dang
4 think. We r_ally let a bad one get by
5 when we didn,t force the issue and
6 require that,!retention in the drawers
7 be taken car_ of and a decent latching
8 system be us ._don the doors.
9
10 ]22 18 24 37 CDR CDR out.
11
12 C
13 022 18 50 36 SPT SPT at 18:50 M487-2 Delta. How
14 effectiveare the varioustools used
A
m
15 thus far in _articular which are ... -4
16 to be used in" zero g and do you find
17 that you needed any tools other than
18 those provid&d in the kit? Okay, I'd
19 say the most of the ones I used so __

20 far are very Ieffective. There's not much O


21 about using _ tool in i g that's dif- m
22 ferent in zero g in terms of the tool O
_ , .
23 and the structure that you re workzng _I
24 on. RetentiOn of the tools is some- --
25 what of a pr _blem, however, if you do
26 have a quite a few tools that you're
27 working with
2s m
29 CC ...
M
30 M
31 SPT Ah, they're Lunping the data/
32 voice recorder. Well, that
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33 blosw it. Ii'Ii have to pick Z
34 this thing up later. Well, F"
35 hold on. Hohston, I was in
• .I • .
36 the debrlefi_g at thls poznt,
37 can you hol_ !off for that tape
38 d_p?
39
40 CC Willdo.
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! 0_2 18 51 56 SPT Thank you. 6kay,
l the problem
2 that I have encountered with
3 the tools is_,firstof all the -
4 to get that tool carrying kit,
5 that is always a problem. I
6 found that iS's a heck of a
7 lot easier J_st to put the
8 tools in yo_ pocket, than
9 to go rouud _p that other
10
11 thing which_ooks real official,
but really i_'s Just a big
12 time consnme_. Once you're
13 working on a|surface, however • (_C
14 if you'd lik_ some way to .1
15 hold it down|and if there
w 16 isn't enough|velcro handy,
O 17 then you're _ little bit
< 18 stuck and we Ialways end up
19 using old green tape. Take

-J 20
21 aa piece of g_een
foot long Or so,tape
and maybe
22 attach it to something and
__ N
mz
23
24
hook the too Ls on the loop.
Maybe wear a long couple --
o
0 25 of incles he _e or there.
_- 26 " You - you us ._that green
u_ 27 tape pretty _uch in that (_
0 28 same m_nuer _or a whole
m_ 29 host of thin_s.
0 3O m
"1
_- 31 022 18 52 57 SPT If there is _ome other way ._
32 of holding t _ols, I 'd most
33 welcome it. Individual 0
Z
34 tether - too Ls are provided? r-
35 Yeah, I thin: I could use
36 a different lind of screwdriver.
37 I think I w_ trying to
38 out the - o_t my shoes back
39 together again. Put the
40 toe on and l|had to put
41 a - a new co_ering on over
42 one - the ri_ht - my right
43 shoe. And t lose screws on
44 the bottom a,e a little
bit too larg., for one size
46 screwdriver md too small
/_ 47 for the oth_'. And you got

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I
1 those screwslanda lot of
2 pressure, an_ I find it
S would have b_en useful to
4 have a screw_iver which
5 fit and we Ldn't have it.
6
i
7 0_2 18 53 50 SPT Two more of Lhem that are
8 in there, no I can - I've
? usually been able to make
10 almost anything,I can get
11 almost anything I needed
12 to get done n one way or r"
13 another. I 'ind the Swiss
14 az-m_,"
knife an exception_.]]y _I
15 useful tool n itself. 4
16 Postural adJ :stment is question
17 number two. What postural
18 adjustment h_ve you had to
19 m_e in orde_ to accomodate
2210 task perform_ce in zero g?
First one is Iat the ATM
22 panel, I wis_ that the flooring 0
23 was a littlelbit lower -- nl
24 there. I found myself having
25 to painfully Ibend over, Z'4
26 was much wor ce at the
27 beginning of the mission when
28 I was used the simulator.
29 Now, l'm use to working :Z
M
30 a little hi_ ar eye level _I
31 on the ATM _ .nel, but I -4
32 still find m 'self bending 0
SS over and ths is somewhat Z
of a proble_ p

36 322 18 54 32 SPT What major scle groups -


37 anywhere els!_, anywhere
$8 else. About the only places
39 I 'm really _rking most
40 of the time • well, also
41 when I'm doilLg some of
42 these TV 10X series, I :
43 got the tele'_ision camera
44 mounted on tile floor and
45 the lights _d everything
46 else, and if I'm bending down
47 there all th, time; it's a

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F littlebit harderthan
2 one g because you don't have
the gravityholdingyou down.
-_ So I find myselfwith my
5 lets and my back getting
tired.
7
_ SPT What major muscle groups
i
j do you employin zerog as
I-__ opposedto one g? Most of
• J
the time you don'temploy
12 many muscle groups in zero g
_ _ exceptforthetimesyou're Ci
:4 trying to bendoverandget -]
!5 something and stay - and
;4 staybentover. You're _-
O !7 going to be at an ATM panel -_
_-_" I_ or - or closeto the floor, to
I? as I Justmentioned. And O
<-J -'_ thereyou're- you'reusing [-_
-'i ' your - yourstomach muscles, _.
_- 2-_ too, I guess, in the track r_

d _ that pullsyou down,forward; __


_ "; andyou'realsousingyour --
O 25 leg muscles. --:
-- _ _ _--

u_ 27 022 18 55 31 SPT Would - would you offer t-


O 2_ any designrecommendations t_
2_ forfuture behicles based --
_ 33 upontheseconsiderations?
3] Yeah,I wouldliketo see _;,
i a work table. Something
_'_ whichyoucouldstandat C
_-: comfortablyand have all
£_ kinds of restrainingdevices
- on a tablewhich is just
about the sameheightthat
: you wouldwork at on a
table in one g. In - matter
-_
} of fact, I mean something
-.'_ comintup to just about
_' the bottom of your rib cage,
-'3 a little above your navel.
4: _ And had yourselfa triangle
_; rightin frontof it and
_ a work surfacewhichhad
_- all kinds of restraining
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l deviceslike our friendly
? aerodynamicswork bench,
whichI foundour - ...
4 screento be a good part.
5 Triangle grid itself; flat
6 surfaceswith all kinds of
r restrainingdevicesor just
a plainflat surfacewith
nothingelse.

_ 022 18 56 29 SPT Right now we're having to


i
:2i makedo with- usingthe _
_:_i flooror thewallforany .-
.4 particular thing you want
15_ to puton. WhenI ...these _
_ i TV-101...TV-101 and107 Z
Ct _7 i which have l've been working t
c_ i on, it'sprettymuch of
i9i a makeshift operation. L"

_-
Z 2_ 022 18 56 h8 SPT N_,mher 3. The previous _:
O 2_ Skylab crew observed that ©
:< 2_ handling large masses was _
-_- 2; far less difficult than

_ 2_ i handling multiple items of _-


2_ . relatively smallmass. Has --
L_ _ your experiencebeen similar,
_J 2_ andwhatlogistics management U
__ -'-, techniques haveyou employed -_
0 2_ '.
I to copewiththisproblem?
_- 2_ r
I Okay. First of all, large
_2 i massesare exceptionally
_3 easyto handle.Youcould Z
24 takea lookat the M151films
r of ETCprep,forexample. -
Z_ And that thing is exceptionally
easyto move around. By
- easy - in two senses: one,
_: it requires very small forces,
and three - and two because
you've got such a relatively
- high mass, you can move it
over somewhere and stop it
dead. And then when you
release it, any small force
you put on it is not going
to have it is not going to
have it move away a small
velocity. So essentially
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_ it'llstay where you want


._ it, floating. This is not
_ true of smallerobjects
.: like cameras and so forth,
g whichI'iiget to in a
: moment. I findthatthe
7 large masses are, if anything,
easierto handlethan - than
smallmassesJust because
"' ! their inertia keeps them
', _ relatively fixed.

_3 18 57 55 SPT Okay. The management j:


b_ problem I get into when -:
_5 I'm juggling a lot of things
_5 is over there at that darn
O _7 filmvault.Youwantto 0_
< :: , get out a camera or you
=- "- _,
[7 i
want to get out a lens; you t_'
--_
-_ _-',' wnat to get a lens adapter; U_
_<: 2 you want to get a light ::!
,C 22 meter; youwantto geta -
b_ _
-- say,somenew film"'' loaded. -:
,
Z:--- 2_ Or you're to get a ring ... __
O 25 and the net result of all --
-- 25 this is you Just got all --
'---- _-
4 kindsof thingsfloating u
O -'2 around in the air. We've t_
2o gottapesoverthere, but --
3: _ yet - still, that'sa mess.
_- :_ _ We gotvelcro.Thatfilm-
_ i that filmbault and that
:C _ whole area over there is -
: it's a god-awful mess.
3f -:
022 18 58 38 SPT I'm sitting here looking
-- at it now, and it just kinda -
2_ . kinda makes me wince. Every
_-,. time I have to go over there
_: - to do something, I - I cringe
41 and I say,"Oh, God,I
42 gotta - gottago through
43 this again." And I open
4" up the top drawer on the
_ righthandside and there's
4_ Just camerascome bouncing
•-' out. We've built - ... with
_ _ a_rdboa_dinsert___Q_hQld

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I _- lot of the adaptersand


2 the _ the cameras. And we
3 have a cardboardcover over
4 the whole drawerso that
when I open the drawer,not
everythingcomes out. But
7 _ you open up the cover and
then you got cameras-
9 bodiescomingout and
_? lenses,and it's just loke
_ up a - thetop of a
_2 snake pit and they all start cl
_ slithering out at you. There's ;,
_-_ Justno easyway on that [,
i5 one, except at elast, for -i
_- amkeshift,for what we've
0 _7 done. I think whatwe -
_<__ _-_ reallyneedis sometype t'.
_9 of a soft restraint which ['_
<T _J is flexible enoughto fit --_
21 almost any size object - ._]
7-- 22 I shouldn't say size, but .,
2S something between a thimble -,
--__-
-- .._" and a fist, or a small part -- _,
0 2_ of a camera, if youwill, -.
2-
_ and a - and a large part. -.
u_ 27 0":
0 2,_ _:
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! 022 18 59 41 SPT I think the material we have


up here is designed - most
2 everything is designed for one
= ' size. The things for holding
the transporters, for example,
are great, and we've had no
problemwith that. But we - if
we ever had to use that drawer for
anything else, of course, the
• trans - the littletransporter
_ inserts, or holders, wouldn't work
i_ worth beans. And that's the
• problemwe're findingover in
!- _]_ostall the otherdrawerswith
i_ anythingdifferentthan was
_-_ != originally planned. -

-_,_ __=
022 19 O0 14 SPT Have you found that you could
_= accomplishmaintenance tasks
.:- reasonably well either on-line <
- :_ or at improvised owrksites, or ".
__:i-" wouldthesechoreshave been
___ _ ___ [- simplified
by having a dedicated -
_,= _ maint- maintenance station? __
25 Would you recon_nend a dedicated -
-- 2_ maintenance station for future -
"_- "_ longterm missions? Most of the
=_ maintenance tasks we have - have
%< _ beenrelatively small. Although -
_'" maintenance - I guessthe one -
thing that I really spent the _
most time on was workingmy
shoe - taking all the little nuts
_ and all the little screws out of
-: that. And then I foudn - I ended
up using the - the aerodynamic
work bench prototype,and that
was the -

022 19 00 55 CC ... 1 minute to LOS ...

-" SPT - - air difuser- -

" CC Next station contact in 16 minutes


... Goldstone at 19:17. Out.

SPT And that worked real well. And


Z5
_ I-would- I would recommenda
J

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a de di Cat ed-main%en a_ce -stat ion--_ .............


.! workstation, if you will;
maintenance,perhaps, is the wrong
word - workstation. You could
use it for all kinds of things.
Okay.

022 19 01 23 SPT Here, most of these maintenance


tasks we've had - I find rather
than rigging up a workstation -
it takes longer to do that than
it doesto - to struggle withit -
in one way or another. And usually
manage to get the Job done, because
the tasks have not become
complicated here. -

022 19 02 00 SPT I think the maintenance is not such

__ i big problem but experiment improvi-


sation is one. For example, the
_ changedparticlemobilityexperiment.
! Thatthingwas a realGoldberg C
-- from - from the very first time -
i we opened up the checklist. And, -- ,
• boy, I had a tought time with that _\
.... _ justtryingto get it all fit -"
_ together,and if it wasn't for
'_ _ graytapewe neverwouldhave _"
_7 gottenit done. There's where -
• you - use a littleingenuity
_- - and a lot of graytapeand a lot
of time and you cna make something
like that work. I'm not sure a
dedicated work station here would
have helped. _._at would have
ehlped there was to have the thing
taught out on the ground a little
better than it was.

022 19 02 30 SPT _at is your prime method of


removing reactive forces when you
must exer linear push or pull
forces during as task? Removing
torques? Rer_oving reactive forces.
Hmm. Let' see, that's ... to me.
I'll tell you, Bob, baby, I Just -
I think I understand what you're
-- -- asking there. _Let me Just kind of
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talk aroundtke--subject; I hope .....


- ! I hit your - what you're asking.

022 19 03 25 8PT When you push on something during


i a task - and you eitherhave it
• braced between hands or you brace
it yourself with trangle grids
and a hand on the handrail and the
object on a wall if you have to,
although most of the time we don't
have forces that require anything
like that. Most of the stuff that t_
_ we do is - is all internal, though,
• isometric, if you will. You're- _
"_ you'repushingone handagainst
the otheror - a goodpartof the
- time,or pulling.Torques- we -"
-- don't have any high torques -wlll
I guess so, with screws,for L"
/ " example. Course, now that's all - i
all - I'veneverhad to work anything _.
-- _i fixedthatI was not holdingmy ny
_ • handthatI canthinkof. Oh, I -
= guessI have. I guesswhatyou do is -.
n. -_ i Just brace your body up against _
- i_ something. Whattheheckam I -
-_ "- tryingto thinkof - I'vedonethat
_. up in the MDA therewas some darn !
thingthatI had to takesome --
bolts off. It was a long time ago _
in the beginning of the mission.

022 19 Oh 35 SPT Really, what you do is just get


your - oh, I know; another good
example is opening up the windows
in the _A. Those windows are the
highest torqued windows I've ever
seen. Those - turning the cranks
• on those things. There wha_ you
do is Justwedge your body in a
- i position where you hold yourself
down towardsthe window and
- ! then torque so that your legs
_ i or your hips or somethingelse
are reacting against something
_ in the _ediate vicinity. And
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................ you can then open or Ci0se the- - -


window. Now that' all improvised.
If you ever needed a work
station, it's right there, to open
up those darn windows.

022 19 05 15 SPT N_nber 6. Have you noted definite


tendencyto establishan IVA
i coordinatesystem as a frame of
" reference for locomoting and
working within the various modules
_ and compartmentsof Skylab? No,
_' I don'tthink so. I think it
_ depends uponwhatyou'redoing.
i_ By - if you're working that - the
.= i EREP,you gotyourownlittle
u_ coordinate systemrightin front
_- of you; if you'reworkingat the
!_ ATM,you got anotherone; if you're
-] = looking out the window, any of the
f- "}_ STSwindows, you gotyour own
_ coordinate system; if you're -,
_- _ working atthe- the....

"- i_ CDR Hey, Ed we're going to take the --


-- :_ recorder,from you now. W'eregoing -
'_ _ to have to startthe - the - ... logging, t

: SPT Okay. I'll have to break this off


,<. _ here. I'm on question 6 and I'll
_- -i pickit up later. _.
qC

022 19 06 04 SPT SPT out. You got it, Jerry.

022 19 06 40 CDR This is the CDR at 0 - no, 19:06


and 45 seconds. At T2, which was
18:51, Delta 6 was reading 40 percent.
And in a period of about 1 minute
it sagged off to about 36 and then
_ i began a slow rise. And at this
_ i time, it's now reading 56 percent.
,_ _ Starting - let's see, the ready
<_ ! activationis complete. Now
_: ! I'm going to start recordingthe
monitorsettings. Alpha 2 is 55;
Alpha3 is 86; Alpha 4 is 92,
" " " and htat is high_ let's see,
_ Alpha 4_ Switch 3 is high - yeah..............
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_ ................ _ha_---that--V_ue is too high.


_ Alpha 5 is 40 percent;Alpha 6
is zero;Bravo 2 is reading54
percent; Bravo 3 is reading 79;
Bravo h is reading92 percent-
91 percent, and that also appears
to be high - Bravo4 - yes,
that readingis high; Bravo 5
is reading 56; Bravo 6 is reading
i_ 48; Bravo 7 is reading 58; barely
on the line;Bravo 8 is reading
i; Bravo 9 is reading 58. Charlie _
2 2 is reading56; CharlieB is
!: reading 87; Charlie 4 is reading
_ 53 - _hich is - a little bit low - _
! Charlie 3 should be - Charlie 4 "
- _ shouldbe reading55 to 85, so
f '_ that'sa tad low; Charlie5 is
_ reading82 - 83, make it;
_ _ Charlie6 is reading47; Charlie7
_ _ is readingh7. Delta 2 is
/-_ _ reading 68; Delta 3 is reading
_ 83:Delta4 is reading45 - which -_
is low- Delta5 is reading 14; -- _
_ )[_ Delta6 is reading 56;Delta7
- i_ is readingi0. All right,I'm
_- setting Charlie on 8 - okay, I
f_ _ verify that the S192 alignment
_ f_ i switchis OFF andthe coveris -
-; replaced. It has not been
_" _ : touched today, Panel117 both
PRESS TO TEST lights are good.
] S192 going to MODE READY - -

022 19 l0 03 CDR NOW. DOOR O__N.

022 19 l0 06 CDR NOW. One minute to go.

CDR The S190 _ATER switch OFF light


is OFF. Okay. 192 READY light
is ON. The DOOR is OPEN.
_DE to CHECK- -

022 19 ll 09 CDR NOW. Okay, preoperate configuration


! pad. TAPE RECORDERON. The
_ _ READY is - on. 192 is ON. The
_- i READY is out. The MODE is CHECK
/ . !
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...................... -an_d the DOOR is OPEN.

[ CDR 91 is ON. okay. I do not have a


READY light on S191. COOLERis
ON. The DOOR is OPEN and I
should have a READY light by now.

PLT Do we do a VTS AUTO CAL? Are


we supposed
to?

" CDR Well, not right away. We will


i later. ..

PLT 0kay.
-[
CDR At 16:10. But I don't have a
_-_ - 191READYlightON. Now,have -
"_
&- "_ I missed somethingin my prep? I
_ don'tthinkso. Threeminuteslate -
--_ _ gettingthe POWERon the 191,but 7
i_ i! that shouldn'tmake that much
-! difference. -

....
: -- •- 022 19 12 27 CDR All right.

-- -; PLT If you'll hand me the MALFs, Jer, -


_- _- I'lllookat themrealquick.

? CDR Okay.

PLT I'vegot about8 minutesbefore _


" I do anything.

CDR All right. Meanwhile I'll press on


" here. S190 the P0_ is ON; READY
light'sout. We're STALqDBY and
the DOOR is 0PEI[. Now we've got
a 191 PZADY light.

PLT Okay.

; CDR I guess it Just - was - really


• cutting it close on the warmup.
Oh - -

022 19 12 59 CDR Okay. Now, the 190 DOOR is OPEN;


- I can see light. 93 Romeo is
=_ ........ at _TALU]BY. SCATTER_',_TER -_ =BEADY-
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...... is on:- _tandingb_ For EREP


START at 19:16.

022 19 14 03 CDR Okay. All I can think of is it Just


hasn't quite had enough time to
warm up.

022 19 15 06 CDR One minute to EREP START. Bill,


we'll want an ETS AUTO CAL at
16:10.

" PLT Okay. .

CDR Okay. On my mark you'll be 19:16:00.


STand by -

022 19 15 59 CDR MARK. EREP START. TAPE MOTION is good.

: PLT Standing
by -
l

/ • :: CDR Okay. Three seconds. Stand by -

- ___: 02219 16 09 PLT MARK. -:


-;
: CDR MARK. Okay. All right. The 2:
• SCAT fEHOME±_ is going to STANDBY -
and the ALTI]4ETER is going to
STANDBY and 194 MODE to MANUAL.
2 i i

CDR I got s.]1 thee 193's on STANDBY now. _

CDB Next mark is 16:36 - correction,


18:36 - about 2 more minutes.

022 19 16 57 CDR SCATTERGETER to STANDBY.

CDR _ARK. _RADI0:Z_ER to STAI_DBY.


ETC to STanDBY.

PLT Standby -

: CDR 25:20 is next.


-5 :

022 19 17 04 PLT _i%_RK.

022 19 17 05 CDR MARK. SCATTER0_._TER is ON.


/ '
022 19_17i0 &DR

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! _22 19 21 58 CDR i minute til_ the next mark.
2 I.
3 PLT Should be comlng in right over
4 Van Couver I_land now, but I can't
5 see it.
6
7 CDR Cloudy?
8
9 PLT Yeah. There s always cloud cover.
10 Just as adve tised.
11

12 CDR On my mark, t'll be 18:36. C


13 Stand by - (_
14 m
15 022 19 18 36 CDR MARK. SCAT_ _OMETER ON. RADIOMETER ._
16 ON. Lookinglfor a 191 READY.
17
I
18 022 19 18 47 CDR MARK, 191 READY on at 18:48.
19
20
REFERENCE goSng to 6. Next
mark's 19:231with an ETC POWER ON.
-
21 Coming up on 19:23. Stand by - Pl
22
O
23 022 19 19 22 CDR MARK. ETC _)WER ON. Next mark _1
24 20:23. --
25 -J
'1"
26 PLT This camera sed something like
27 i0 seconds o _ film on this reservoir
28 here.
29 _:
30 PLT Ahh. STill Looking for a snow cover, m
31 m
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33 want the ETC to AUTO, and I'll O
34 go with 190 _o AUTO. Z
r-
35
36 PLT Oh, good.
37
38 PLT Okay. Stand by. 20 :23.
39
40 022 19 20 22 CDR MARK. 190 MODE AUTO. ETC AUTO.
41 _-
42 . PLT Oh, beautifuL. I'm gonna get the
43 special 02.
44 ?
45 0"22 19 20 33 PLT DATA MARK.
,
,!
47

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] PLT ... I got it.l
2

S CDR Okay, we got i% MALF light on


4 camera 6 as we expected for
5 S190. Bag magazine. Crying
6 wolf. Next mark will be
7 21 :06. St an_ by -
8
IMODE
9 )22 19 21 06 CDR MARK. S192 to READY. Okay.
10 TAPE MOTION ]ight is back on again;
11 we're at hig_ sea(?).
12
r-
13 PLT WE got our s]ecial 02, Bruce; I found
14 m
15 that clear s]ot.
16 '-J
17 CC Roger. I co]ied, Bill, thank you. DC

19 CDR Next mark wi3 be 22:28. Charlie

20 8 showing 38 percent. --
21 Pl
22 CDR Charlie 8 - harlie 8 showing
23 36 percent. O
24
25 PLT Okay. Minus 6, ... 7, 8, 9, -4
26 and i0 back ff .... off and n-
27 going to 23:3 h5 right, 4.9.
28 m
29 CDR Here's a TAPI MOTION light starting _.
30 to flicker at 35 percent tape _I
31 remaining, tand by for 22:28, m
32 Stand by -
33 O
34 )22 19 22 28 CDR MARK, 192 MODE to CHECK. S190 Z
35 INTERVAL - s_and by - r"

36
37 )22 19 22 35 CDR MARK, at 22: _ 5. 8190 INTERVAL '<
38 to 20. ETC _ o STANDBY. Next
39 mark's at 23:30.
40
41 PLT Not gonna be as lucky on this one.
42
43 -PLT Doggone it. Clouds got me Just in time.
44
45 CDR ... Kansas C_ty?
46
47 PLT No, it was a ... l'm going through
48 Kansas City zow. 23, 33, 45, left 2.h. :,

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1 - CDR Okay, on my Lark, it'll be 23:30.
2 STand by -
3
4 022 19 23 29 CDR MARK. S190 NTERVAL is - -
5
6 PLT No Joy. Oka, I'm gonna get set
7 up for Atlan a.
8
9 CDR Okay, coming up, next mark will be
10 23:50. We'r_ gonna want an ETC to
11 AUTO; and th_n stand by, Ed.
12 STand by - C

14 022 19 23 h9 CDR MARK, 23:50. 193 going to m


15 POLARIZATION 4. S190 SHUTTER
16 SPEED to MEDIUM, ETC to STANDBY. :E
17
I
18 PLT Kansa was ho]_eless.
19 (n

20 CDR Oh, that's t(o bad.


21 m
22 PLT Okay, 25:20. Verified. O
23 "11
24 CDR What you wor]_ing on now, Georg - --
25 ATlanta? "4
26
27 PLT Well, I got i - Hey, Bruce, a little
28 clarificatiol. I should have asked (/I
29 it earlier. Is Atlanta, indeed, :E
30 the alternat, You would prefer m
Pl
31 to have a un:form site? ... my -4
32 pad lists sp_ cial 02 as a primary
33 and 530 as a secondary or as the O
34 alternate. Z
r-
35 ,<
36 CC It's affirma ive. 530 is the 0S,
37 special 02 a:'ea is the prime.
38
39 PLT Okay, any uniform sites.
40
41 . CDR Well. A tes_ sites a uniform site,
42 isn't it?
43
44 PLT Yeah.
45.
46 CDR Kill two bir, with one stone there. -

48

JSC Form 886 (Oct 69) ,ASA-JSC :


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2:
S i CDR Okay, next mark is at 25:12,
4 i in about7 seconds.

PLT Okay,25 ...


7

c CDR Coming up on 25:12. Stand by -

_C 022 19 25 ll CDR MARK SCATTEROMETER to STANDBY.

!2 022 19 25 12 CDR MARK. RADIOME'I'ER to STANDBY. ETC


%...

_ toSTAND
BY.
i
_5 PLT Standby -

'- CDR 25:20


isnext. -

;? .022 19 25 19 CDR/ MARK. t


-' 2_ PLT i ""

22 CDR SCATTEROMETKR
is ON.

_ _-z PLT Okay, I got a unfirom site; I'm --


O 25 tracking it. m
2i ! , :-
-
27 CDR 25:37's the next mark. : C:
C. 2£ {.4
c._ s,_ PLT DAC's on and got data pushbutton. _

_ CDR St
anby- , ;":

T_ 022 19 25 36 CDR MARK. SCA_fEROMETR to STANDBY. _ 0


• ALTIMETER to 0N. -

_ CDR Next mark's 26:03 with an ETC aUTO, _' -:


- : Ed. Coming up 26:03. Stand by -

_; 022 19 26 02 CDR MAPX, ETC AUTO. 26:20's next.


STill got some tape left.
-}

42 " PLT Okay, there's -just 30 seconds


4S on a unfirom site. DAC off.
_-'_ Okay 30 degrees.
_r

-_
_ CDR On m_ makr 26:20.
- 47 i

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3 CDR Standby -

022 19 26 19 CDR MARK, 192 MODE READY. TAPE RECORDER's


_ ... with that motion. Flickering
_ TAPE MOTIONlight.

CDR Seems to start flickeringwhen you


"-.i
i
get - get low on tape, it runs
_! solid when you've got a lot of tape.
r
"2! c
'_ PLT I've got the site; I've got Atlanta.

_ CDR Hey,goodshow. .
J

PLT Yep,
that's
it. _

"_ _ CDR Okay, that TAPE MOTION light is more


_x f_ off than on now, still flickering.
i'__ Charlie8 is reading30 percent.
_} Stillno END OF TAPE light,so we're
_ _? still good. STill got our TAPE
_ -- _ _ RECORDER READYlight. Got an _!
_ ALTIMETER UNLOCKlightgoingto -
Z
25 STANDBY • -

C) 23 PLT Camera off. Okay, ...


_T

_ "_ CDR Next mark will be 27:55. Okay,


_- _; ALTIMETERis back through- to ON now. .

ci 022 19 27 54 CDR MARK. 27:55. Going to INTERVAL 20


on S190. 4.8 FRAMESPER MINUTE
ontheETC,

CDR Got an ALTI:_TER _LOCK light again.


Still got a B_ADY light. 28:40's
i my nextmark.

i . CDR Okay, on my makr, 28:40.

_022 19 28 39 CDR MARK. ALTIMETR TO STANDBY. MODE


_ to 5. RANGE is 69. 28:58 is next.
_[_ Standby -

__71022 19 28 57 CDR MARK. 28:58. THE ALTIMETER's ON.


29:04 is next..............
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022 19 29 03 CDR MARK. 192 MODE to STANDBY.


29:10,ETC to STANDBY.

022 19 29 09 CDR MARK. 29:30 is next.

CDR Coming up 29:30. Stand by -

022 19 29 30 CDR MAEK. SHUi_fER SPEED to SLOW. 29:40


coming up.

CDR Stand by -

022 19 29 40 CDR MARK, 29:40. S191 REFERENCE to 2.


Okay, at 30:hO, Bill, we want a ETC
AUTO CAL.

PLT Okay.

CDR Charlie 8's reading about 25 percent;


it's oscillating between20 and 30. -

-" CDR 20 seconds to AUTO CAL, Bill. _i

PLT Roger. Okay, I use my i0 seconds of --


__ 2J_ filmto ... lagoonin the Bahamas? --
-- _j
A

__ 27 i CDR i0 seconds. On my mark it'llbe •


O 2__ 30:h0.Stand by - ."

_, _ 022 19 30 39 CDR/PLT MARK. I

: CDR ETC AUTO CAL. Next mark at 31:h0.

PLT Okay, I've got a XLV. I've got


an END OF FILM light on the DAC.

CDR Uh-oh .... your clock so okay.


Got an ALTI_._TER UNLOCK light going
to STANDBY at 05.
!
. CDR Okay. MOTION's still hanging in
' there. Okay. Going back to ON on
" i the ALTIMETERat 20. READY light
is ON. The ALTIMETER UNLOCK light
"- i if OFF. 31:h0 is my next mark.
:: I Stand by -

z_ _022-19-31 39 - CDR -- _£_K. _ SHUTTER SPEED 's MEDIUM. _ 31:50 's__


the next mark. Stand by -
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] [3-22-].9-31-39--CDR_
...... _K]- INTERVAL go_i_t_--10_--ETC
_ to AUTO, Ed. Next mark's at 32:20.
3 i ALTIMETER's got an UNLOCK LIGHT;
• I still got a READY light. Waiting
i for 32:20. Stnad by for 32:20.

7 022 19 32 20 CDR MARK. ALTIMETER to STANDBY. RANGE


_J set at 65. 32:35 is next. On my
"} mark 32:35. Stand by -

022 19 32 35 CDR MARK. ALTIMETER IS ON. 32:45 is


7, nextmark. STandby -

L: D22 19 32 45 CDR MARK. 190 SHUTTER SPEED SLOW. Got


_ an ALTIMETERUNLOCK light. 32:55
u_ _ is next mark.
C, _7
<7 _: CDR Standby -

-_ 2T 022 19 32 54 CDR MARK, 32:55 190 INTERVAL to 20.


_" "4 ETC to STANDBY, Ed. Okay, your
2;! going to Sl. ALTIMETER si still
-_ hangingin there. Lookingforan .
_; "" S191 READY at 33:20. TAPE's still : --
:_, hanging in there.

u_ 27 CC Leave S192 in STANDBY - leave 193


O 2_ i in STANDBY; 193 in STANDBY, please.

""
kj _ CDR 193 what?

" CC ALTIMETER.

• CC Okay.

CDR Going 0 now it's STANDBY now.


Allright we missed - the 191 was
a little bit later. But made it.
33:30 190 INTERVALto I0. ETC to
AUTO, Ed. Well, INTERVAL going
_o
• _ _ back to 20. Got that INTERVAL
." i minute too early. Just got it
S back to i0, and back to 20 before
it clickedoff, so I think we may
_: be all right.

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: 022 19 37 55 CDR That's good .... POWER switch


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-- _-_ 022 19 h9 29 SPY SPT in at 19:49. Picking up .........


_f :-_ againon our friendly M487-2 ["
-- "2_ Delta. Okay. Coordinate system, --
:'- _7 IBA, question 6. Usually you _'
_ i_ don't have to worry yourself '"
_ about an overall coordinate _:
O i: system,because you're only working
_- " : at one p;ace at one time. I cannot
:'" think of anything in the workshop
_ or in the MDA which involves the '
__ use of both sides of the compartment
[- simulataneously so that the relative _.
L , conditionsof - what you have on
both sides of the compartmentm_kes
a difference.

• 022 19 50 32 SPT Here the distance between you and


, _ the work station whether it be -
-'_ " EREP, - /LTM, - scientific airlock,
•i front of a film vault, it's - one
_ to one. So I thinkyour choice
: of coordinates system, if you will,
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[ ... vehi-cle-desig/s,-re-al_ly boils


_ down to is effecient use of the
; volume that you have available.
- Where do you put Surbaces in
i order to - make maximum utilization
of the volume. By surfaceI mean
: _ walls and/or the total outside
." configuration of the space vehicle,
; Cylinder ... versus sphere versus
_ square. In that regard I think
' we have a reasonable- approach here
_s in theinitial thought. _

; 022 19 51 51 SPT But that's as far as it goes.


i_ By that I mean, we have a large
___ bD volume which I think you will - you .
0 _T will need for experiments like -
*_ _'_ 509, TO20, and just as a place
i° , where people can get away from
__ _. i any claustrophobia which they might
.... get in small compartments -which
_ I thinkcouldget on you after :-+
__ a longperiodof time. At least
_ i I feelthatif I werepinnedup in --
O _< _ the NDA all the time, that is, for -"
2_ ! a months at a time, it would begin _
u- ?v i to feel pretty much like a cell t:
0 .tb as opposed to a - a work area. I b-
2_ think you do need a large volume for L
"" ._ thosereasons,and I'm sure there's V
_ ::_ many more.

"-" 022 19 52 56 SPT I guess the many more would include


the different types of experiments
-_ : which you would do, many of which you, -
" as we found on this mission, you can't
- predict years in advan?e. Many of
them are inflight generated. They
could not be generatingunless you
. : had the large volume. The other
: I "" aspect which I think in general is
" ! good, is the general design of the
i _K)Ain which tried to utilizethe
_ walls of the cylinderin a zero g
_ i manner rather than a i g manner.
.:_ The OWS is a 1 g vehicle and I think
c , it's a waste a lot of wall space.
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' r622 19 53 h6 SPT The MDA-tr-ied t_o--_e-the_w_ail


space,which is good, but I
J thinkthey do it in a - what
-_ I would consider a unorganized,
# confusing- manner. I would
not - I wouldliketo see a
compartment about the same size as
_ the OWS, maybe even longer-
which has got work stationson the
_-" walls. By walls now, I mean the
c]'lindricalwalls - as opposed
i_ Justto a placeas a place- L
_ separate- used to seperateceiling _
fromthefloor, i_
--i

_ _02219 5h 5h SPT You'd have to build things, work -_


_: platforms, work stations, so -
/_ _ that in a given locale, you'd have
i_ yourown localvertical.You own
_ _ local verticalis perpendicular
2_ to the wall or the floor. In that
_.2! sense,walls and floorsare no ._
-_ longerdistinguishable. I would _
_-_" - liketo seethe arealike --
_--_ _J the MDA awhichoughtto be large -
-- l in diameter. I think the OWS is
:- - probablygood. It might not be
0 f_ i as - the OWS could probablybe a
. _'Ti littlebit smallerfor our general -
"_ _ , work compartment where you would
_ house control stations,if you will,
: for experiments.

022 19 55 43 SPT It should be a little bit smaller


than the 0WS and it could be _ little
bit smaller than the OWS. And here
again, it jsut depends" upon which
-. : types of experiments you're concerned
with as to whether they're, - be

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most-appropriately put in a
large - experiment - large
volume like the OWS and
perhaps larger, or the - MDA.
J Now again, if you'retalking
about artificialgravity
: essentiallya - large bicycle
tire rotating,in which the
volumewhich normallythe - you
_' have in the air for the - in
I' the bicycle tire would now be
!_ yourworking compartment.
].

_ 022 19 56 26 SPT And you'd be rotating in the


_ sameway as you wouldaroundan
_ i axisof thebiketire,2001 _
0 L' type,thenyou'vegotyourselfa I -
< I_ local verticaldefinedand -
_ things are different. I think
-_
% _'; that'sa - a straight forward
/ ._-_- _i pace. You cross section then
" has a rectangleor at least
L a flat floor and local vertical
-__ _i isdefined. --
rc ---
2-' 022 19 57 07 SPT The frame of reference for
u_ 2- the locomoting back and l
O _ forth,I findit notnecessary, t
_ I mean,youknowhowto get -
.r_ _ from spot to another. And : :

i there's no functional reason i "


. you have to have a coordinate ,
- system defined for you. This
vehicle is relatively straight
_- forward. Now let'stalk

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compartment s -do-wn---theb_ott om
deck of the OWS. There I
think we could have done a
• little better Job of laying
out the coordinate system, if
you will, downthere.
7

022 19 57 _5 SPT The sleep compartments, I


think each guy ought to have
" accessibility to the sleep
; compartmentwithout having
_ to trundle [sic]by the others.
_" When I trundleout of mine in
_ the middle
of thenight,if .
_< I haveto I can- it being ._
_ _, relativelyquietdownthere, -:
:7 I can - feelthatI am waking -_
_" "_ up eitherBillor Jerry. The
i? corner whichwe haveover :

_: Z_ there by M131 is especially


_ unuseable, because it'san
_- acute angle in there and ..
-_ therearen'tmanythingsthat -
-- - can go in there,exceptfor --
_ 2_ stowage. And we have not yet
-- _ been able to findthings to
-_ _ stow over there,exceptthe
_ ; temporarystowageof TO20.
: I'm getting out of subject L
coordinate systems, it depends
how largeyou'regonnamake
this as to whetheryou really
got to worry that problem too
hard. If you're gonna come
up with a vehicle which has
got &O,000 cubic feet, a factor
of four greater than what we
have - a factor of three
greater and you're gonna have
.. many more compartments,then
. maybe you ought to think about
aislesand passageways, if
_- you will, tubes and that type
_' : of coordinate system.

-; 022 19 59 18 SPT If you ever do that, you ought


_ :_ to make sure that you end up
-"JL_..... with a aisle or two which is
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My as an aisleway is in a
series of - or a hallway is in
a series of offices. So that
; to get from one room to
i another, you do not have to
"_ go through anothercouple of
rooms, but you go out into
: the major two or the hallway
and go that exit- go to the
other room. Functionally,
:i _. that's what you do in one g
_ andI thinkin zerog you ft.
!. should have the s_m_ functional
'' r equirement. Coordin at
e "
_ systems are kind of funny in
u_ ....
_' the sense that _ in the command
t_; L" module- it allgoesbackto --
"_ _i the way we're trained. We got L'
_ our own localveritcal in the in;

2[" coz_nand module which is very


- ?i i hard to find when you first [
_ get in there now in zero g. ....
2_ That'slayingon yourback on .
- _ -- L _ a couchwiththe - with the ...........
25 gravity down towards your back. -_
26
u_ 27 022 20 00 33 Sl_f That's hard to - hard to find _
G 2_ when you initiallygo in there.
?_ At leastI always findit a "
"_ little confusing. I shouldn't
_- . say confusing,but it Just
V , takes a littlewhile to get
_ myself oriented. IqDA,because
' that thing was always rotated
._ in the a different orientation
in training, we never really
established a local feeling
of vertical there - feeling
of local vertical, 0_S_ we do.
'Cause the way it was put
together and the fact that it
_'_ is a one g design. I think
-i_ coming through the upper
- - dome - from the airlock into
.:--. the upper dome is kind of an
_- interesting sensation. Jerry
/
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iO22 20 O1 17 SPT If you come through feet first


and you look down,you feel
2 that you're gonna fall. That's
because of the one g ... image
you still have in mind. For
-" some reason if you can come
whistling through head first,
it doesn'tseem to bother you.
It really doesn't bother me
the other way either, but
I have this - you have the
_ feelingof heightwhich,rather
than just dimensionfrom one
-_ point to another,you all of
!_ a sudden - thetermheight -
_ ' comesintoit - gravity __
_ ]'_i gradient ....

_: 022 20 Ol h5 SPT I don't feel that till I come _!-


"_ _' through that dome feet first.
_: _ Much more so in the early
22 i partof themissionthannow.
": ' Strangely enough, I also _ "_
_ -- L: _ sometimesfeel that up in the
_}__ 2_ MDA when I am looking out of __':
-- 2J the EREPwindowwith_ body 7-
u. 2- parallel to the X axis and my
%_ _: feet towardthe OWS. I then
c_ "_" lookdowntowardmy feetand -:
_, :_ all of a sudden I feel as
_- _ thoughI'm lookingdown a long
- tube. And I mean down a long
:_ _ tube, not just along a tube,
but down it. And there is a
gravitygradientand if I step
off the littleplatform,why
I - I'm going to go whistling
all the way on down.

022 20 02 33 SPT I think that's - ... real tough


" time trying to figure out where
• the heck I ever would come up
_: with that sensation. And
then I remembered all the testing
which we've done down at the
-:'-
,: cape where that was the
.._i orientationthat the whole
_3 ! vehiclew_ in_ An&in the-MDA.
I
I even though _e had a lot of
2 hatches, andiL.ladders, and all
3 that good st_ff in there,in
4 the MDA whenlyou look down in
5 that manner _t was really
6 down. And llthink that's
7 where it haslarisen.I If we
8 never had the one g background
9 in that particular situation,
10 I don't thin_ I would have
I
11 felt that sensatzon. Let
12 me Just mention another r-
13 sensation an_ that is the EVA m
14 one, as long_as we're t_Iking
about coordinate systems.
16 And this is _robably a little
off your top_e, but kind of
18 fanto talk_bout.Andit is -
19 in a coordinate system you feel "
20 i
when you're_ut there on the
21 workst at ions_outside during Pl
O
the EVA's, s_y, the center work-
23 station, or _he SAS workstation. -- _1
24 Those two fe_ quite - quite a
25 part of the _ehicle. You are "_
26 attached to _ and your working
27 next to it. _OU don't have the
28 sensation that you're - .
29 you know whez e you are - that Pl
30 you're up above the Earth, of course, m
31 hut you don't have the sensation that
32 you do as whe you're out on the 0
sun end. Z
P
35 SI_ If you go ou_ on the sun end and
36 YOU keep yourself close to the vehicle,
37 there again, _verything is fine. You
38 don't have an_ different sensation,
39 but if you lean back you're far
40 ..._ enough away f_om any large structure
41 that you no longer feel a part of
42 the space sta;ion. You all of a
43 sudden - it's Just between you and
44 the Earth bel _w, hanging from your
4& heels. And y)u are looking down at
4_ an Earth whic is 270 miles below
47 and you have he feeling that there
48 I_ _ _avity _ndien_ ant sown you

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2 my heart rat_ really went up
3 the first couple of t_mes I did
4 that and it was a neat sensation.
5 So I pressedion doing it. And
6 I guess othe_ guys have experienced
7 the same thing. Your coordinate
8 system then _s in a sense when you're
9 used to working in - in zero g -
10 in one g, it,s fine. You're close
11 to the vehicle, you feel a very much -
12 a part of th_
• i
vehicle. But you lean
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r-
13 away from it? get a_-ay from the blg
14 bl]Ik mass surrounding you and it Pl
15 m_es me - almost your total sphere ._
16 is unlncombe_ed by the space craft, 2:
17 then all of _ sudden, you feel that
18 you, alone, are up there. And
19 that's an interesting feel - feeling. m

20 I've got to _dm_t that rivale liftoff. O


21 J IVl
22 _22 20 06 02 SI_2 Okay, what i_ your opinion concerning O
23 the advisability of exerting design _1
24 influence tol standardize the multiple --
25 types of snaps, latches, retainers,
26 restraints, _oors, it cetra you have
27 confronted, _r not confronted in
28 Skylab? I tllink that's an excellent
29 idea and I w .sh it had been done for
DI
30 skylab and w : had come up with some- Pl
31 thing better than dial latches and __
32 these other oose fasteners. Dial
33 latches, the problem with those is O
Z
34 Just too ... slippery. I think they're F
35 poorly made. They're cheap. They
36 get too easil.y bent. Film door is
37 a per - perf._ct example. They're, I
38 find, 81sway; sticking, always binding
39 in the open _osition. And they put
40 much more fo _ce than is ever required
41 to hold some _hing closed in zero g. .
42 - It's stricter a liftoff vibration _
43 type lock whLch has no business being
44 . your only me ms of holding something
45 dawn in zero g.

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I 22 20 07 O_ SPT I think the _arn _nings ougn_ co be
2 Just flat removed.
J Find another
3 way of holding something down for
4 launch then remove it when your up
5 here And call for the flesable, easy
6 zero g restraints. The trouble with
7 the goose fasteners,
r getting every-
8 thing perfectly aligned in order to
9 make them start clutching in there.
]0 If you don't _ou're Just lost. You're
11 Just turning Something and nothing's
12 happening. W_ put in a tape recorder
13 the other day I- two days ago. Jerry C
14 and I were doing
I it, and we had one _1
15 heck of a time trying to get all
16 those holes _ four holes lines up
17 so you get all four of those little
18 fellows scre_ng down there. (_
19 |
20 122,20 07 45 SPT There's no re_son it should have been 0
21 that hard. A_I, we were trying to _1
do is hold something doom against a ...
23 l'd like to see
_ some standardization O
i
24 and I'd like _o see something a little --
25 better than what we 'we got now in "_
26 the way of t_ese fasters or dial z
27 latches. Something
t
easy, simple,
28 light, not cqmpllcated, and won't
29 get dinged ori. busted easy. Again, _r
30 not the _esign engineer. This _I
31 xs the kind _f thing that doesn't Pl
32 have to holdl40,O00 kilopounds -I
33 worth of agressive torque and strain O
34 for liftoff _ud all those kind of Z
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35
good things. I And it's got to do is
36 hold something together in zero g ...
SF !
38 )22 20 08 38 SPY And I'm almost thinking something
$9 with the eas4 of valcro tab. But
40 they tend to 'wear out. And they're
41 _ also not qui_e as quick and conven-
42 lent to attach unless they're placed
43 perfectly correctly
I
and l'm not sure
that would always be done properly.
45 But the ... latches
]
we've got on all
46 these compartments are overdeslgned
47 for zero g, _f course, they're made
48 for liftoff.| They have far more spring
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2 forceing them closed sometimes in
3 order to -_ the latches catch.
4

5 D22 20 09 21 SPT That shouldn,t be.


I l'm all for
6 . . I
standard_zlng; coming up with something
7 that's cheapiand easy. I ... pay
8 through the nose for some new super-
9 improved dog lrap. Do it simple.
10

11 322 20 09 45 SPT SPT out.


12

14 TIME 3KIP
15

16
17 D22 20 22 32 CDR This is the q DR AT 20:22 Zulu. And

18 it's time to confess my last camera


19 orgy, which ._tarted yesterday after-
20 noon. And when I was ready to debrlef
21 it, the recorder wasn't. And then

22
23 when
start itoff
was, ll'd
wi_h theforgotten.
Nikon with Let's
the O
24 300 millight_ather- millimeter --

25 lens on it. IAt 21:20 Zulu yesterday,


26 that's on da_ of the year 021, I shot
27 some Nikon f_im and the magazine
28 n,m1_er is Ch_rlie X-ray h2. Okay,
29 the first frames were number 62 and 61,
30 in this case_t They were of San Francisco. m
31 I took - the .first frame was the -4
32 southern pa_ of the bay and the second
SS frame was ov._rlapping with the northern Z
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34 part of the _ay. 5.6, i/i000. This r"
35 was part of _he stereo pair swath - -<
36 the stereo swath that the PLT wsB
37 TAKING OUT THE WARDROOM WINDOW. I
38 grabbed the 300 and went up to the
39 S190 and the F2 windows and kind of
40 ricocheted back and forth between

41 _ the two trying to get the - the photo-


42 graph. So a_ 21.20 San Francisco Bay,
43 fra-_ 62, 61 5.6 over 300 [sic]. ';:i

45 )22 20 24 12 CDR At 21:21, I _ook a picture of Monteray Bay


46 from Pacific|Beach to - or Pacific

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2 to Fort Ord, ';allthe say around
3 to Santa Crib' actually. That was
4 frame number 160, same f-stop, s_
5 speed. At 2_:42, a picture of Mono
6 Lake, frame _umber 59- Also
7 at 21:42 a small red lake Just
8 south of Mon6 Lake. The lake was
q
9 the same redlcolor as the red portion -
10 the northern Iportion of the Great

1211 Salt Lake.


13 )22 20 24 47 SPT This lake also looked like it was (N
14 a dry lake sort
I
of thing that had rq
15 a littlebitlwater in it andw_s __
16 frozen. It was
i
in the High Sierras
17 there, Just south of Mono Lake. That
18 was frame nnm_er 58 the same f-stop,
19 5.6, i/i000. Then at 21:43, I took
20 some frames, frames 57 and 54, 0
21 the same f-s ;ops. And this was the m
22 area from P_m Springs to Imperial O
23 Valley. I s" ;arted with the southern _1
24 end of the S_Llton Sea, then I took ....
25 the northern end. Then took a __
26 picture of Paul Springs. And then ±
27 the last picture was down at Imperial
28 Valley. }
29 | .
30 D22 20 25 29 CDR All right, the next series, is the Pl
31 series of - _aken from 21:44 Zulu m
32 to 2-1:47 ZuI_. And this is Just a
33 whole bunch bf sort of end-to-end with O
• Z
34 the main con_entratlon over handheld
35 sites n,lm_erill4, 113, ll2, and 56. r-
36 It's Mexico _rom the Sonors Desert to
37 Guada/ajara, iframes number 53 through
38 35, all taken at 5.6, I/i000. And
39 again this i_ Charlis X-ray 42. Then
40 at 21:48, I took a picture of Mexico
41 -- City and nex_ largest city below it
42 which I think is Puebla. That's frame
43 number 34 though 32. I get the sinking
44 .
45
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I feeling thaticircular structure
2 that Bill and I are talking about
3 and telling you was in Mexico City,
4 might really be northeast of the
S City of Puebia. So you might consider
6 that in your searchings for locating
7 that circularthing. It is most de-
8 finitely a manmade structure. It is
9 not a dry lake with algae in it.
10 It's much too circular, it's got con-
11 centric circles
p in it. It's very,
12 very regular, geometric, and perfect. C
13 It is - the pictureof it is also
14 in this - these frames34 through32. m
15 Now, the northeren populated area -4
16 that we got had a string of craters. 3;
17 And I think %hey were to the south -
18 to the southwest to the southeast.
19 Many - many _raters of many beat down
20 volcanics. Now the southern most --
,
21 city had a range of mountains south- ,1
22 east of the _ity. And the range of O
23 mountains was a northeast-southwest
24 direction. And the most southwesternly
, -4
25 end of the range is a very, very beautiful
26 volcano with! snow capped peaks end
27 a very, very! clear crater. And I
28 got a - I go_ a sneaking hunch that
29 that city is iPuebla and we may have
S0 led you astray looking for that Circular m
31 structure, pkay, again, those were M
32 taken at 5.6i and 300. Then at 21:51; -4
33 the Bay of F_nseca, 31 and 30 - frames 31 O
34 and 30 of Ch_rlie X-ray 42, taken at Z
15 5.6, i/i000, i And I took a - essentially,
got both ends of the bay. It's the
37 same kind o_ pictures I took of San

$839 Francisco B 7.
40 02220280h CDR The idea here was to get the two
41 "° holcanoes thlat are active in that
42 area. Okay, so much day of the year 21.
43 Alright, day if the year 22, which is
44 - today. At 13:17 today, I took frames
45. number 2B anl 27. Again, those were
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! at 5.6, i/I090. And these are dune
2 boundaries in the dune area of the
3 site HH69 inlthe eastern Algerian
4 Desert. And{l} took an overview with
5 the Hasselbl_dwhich I'ii get
6 to later. A_d I refer to that Hassel-
7 blad as Charlie X-ray h6, frames 164.
8 And that kin of ties these two closeup
9 together. T1en at 13:26, as we were
10 going over L Lke Rudolph in South Africa, -
I'{ now I shouldl't say South Africia, i'ts
12 east Africa, anyway, you know where C
13 Lake Rudolph is. I noticed some volcanics 01
14 Just southea it of Lake Rudolph. And so Pl
15 I took a - I{took a Nikon picuture of
16 that which is frame n,,m_er 26. Since
• }
17 we were movlng toward the terminator,
18 m
I stopped it{down to h.5, with a 300 milli-
19 meter lens, _/i000. UI
2O
21 0"22 20 29 26 CDR I took
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24 blad Charlie;X-ray 46. And that's it
25 for Nikon an_ my activities for the -I
26 last day and{a half with the Nikon. :_
27 I'll try to be a little more prompt,
28 hut when you, re busy and you're hustling
29 around, you _.ometimes forget to re - n-
30 say these things, and I know you're Pl
31 probably wonderlng what happened to
32 that 30 frames which showed in last
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37 the - the Hasselblad, day of the year 22,
38 this is all Charlie X-ray 46 film.
39 At ii:39 1 tbok a picture - three
40 pictures of the Alps. These are
41 _e- frames 155, _ and 7 taken at 8 plus,
42 . lO0-millimet_r lens, 1/250th. Then
43 I - as I swuhg through the Alps then -
44 . I swung sout_ and took pictures of
45 the mountains along the east side
4_ of the Adriactlc Sea all down through
47 Yugoslavia. IAnd I did that with
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3 f-stop, 8 plu_ - or 8.5 over
4 100-_illimeter lens, 1/250th. And then
5 a little further down I noticed our
6 coastal bloomings that I mentioned i
7 about 2 weeks iago at the calf of the
8 leg of Italy. I I also noticed some
9 over in Yugoslavia Just across from
I0 it. These are frames number 160
11 and 161, coastal blooming Italy and
12 yugoslavia. _nd then at ii :hl r"
13 I took Just a- a general overview
14 geewhizpictureof Greece. That's m
15 frame number 162, same f-stop. Then
16 rev over - over Spain - over Europe
17 I should say,; at 13:14, I got a picture
of coastal blooming in Morocco, right
19 along the Mediterranean Sea. These
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27 took. Also the frame n11mber 165 is a
28 picture of the volcanic south of Lake
29 Rudolph. Okay. And then the next
30 action of mine was that 17:44, and _1
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31 this was wit_ Charlie X-ray 46. This ._
32 is the Hasselhlad - the new Hasselblad
33 film that's in there. Charlie X-ray 18, 0
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34 frames numbe_ 0, number i, and number 2 [-
35 are snow cover boundaries, and they ._
36 start northwest of Fort Peck Reservoir
37 and End up a_ Fort Peck; and this is
38 - this is a _ort of a snow line.
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40 _. or 07:42, ended at 07:44. Fr_-_s 0 through 2 -
41 Stand by a minute, Bruce - 0 through 2,
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5 Goddard, anti'took one at an f-stop of
6 16, i - 1/1250th because there's
7 a lot of clouds around, but because
8 the groundwas dark, I decided to
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022 21 h2 oh CDR This is the CDR 21:42 Zulu


debriefing the 20:42 ATM pass.
J0P 6, building block 32,
no problem. J0P 15, a couple
of building block 28's
were going very nicely until
active region 31 started
popping again. I got all
of the second JOP - correction
cur - building block 28 done,
except the SINGLE FRAME 5,
8 minutes long. I think I
terminated that at about
4-1/2 to go or something like
that and went into the flare
mode on active region 31. I
had a - first indication of
a flare was a very rapid
brightening in H-ALPHA 1.
And I started looking at
_ H - at XUV. And it didnot
brighten anywhere near as
fast as H-Alpha 1 did. When
I finally felt like X[]V
was brightening, I termi-
nated the S056 SINGLE FRAME
and set it up for AUTO SHORT
and got 55 going in LINE SCAN
and 54 going in M, S, I, H,
64. Then I started making
mistakes. I decided that
since the hot spot of the
flare was two lines below
where I was, I moved the
MIRROR, LINE SCAN down two
lines. And then later on
I moved it down one more
line. And then after a
little thought afterwards,
I went down sad talked to
Ed for _ few minutes and
found out that I really am
not doing you a favor when
I'm doing that. That I
really ought to have left
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it right where it was and


Just taken - taken what we
got. But, as it - as it
went, I tracked the hot spot
in S055, so you're data is
not very good time data. It's
more hot spot data. And in
oxygen VI, we were banging
up around 40,000 counts on
this little flare.

022 21 44 19 CDR The PMEC went right on up.


I saw counts of 690 and so.
And then after that it started
moving up to 800 and I - I
got a little bit skeptical.
And about that the folks on
the ground indicated that
we were moving into the
South Atlantic anomaly, so
thatwas probablythe reason
for the high PMEC count.
The IMAGE INTENSITY COUNT,
as I remember, I think I
saw 40 over there once when
I glanced over to look at
it. I mhould have probably
logged that while I was busy
logging the PMEC. I stopped
logging the PMEC when it -
when it went through 800 and
I realized that I was doing
nothing but logging the
South Atlantic ano_ly. I
started into the flare mode
at 21:17 Zulu.

022 21 45 08 CDR I got H-ALPHA 1 to


4 frames per minute, 21:19.
And sorry about that, H-ALPHA 1.
And finally gave up and
terminated at 21:24 when the
XUV got back down to just
slightly above it's - I
guess you'd call it ambient
level,the levelthat- before
it started. I got you're -
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you're VTR data of the door,


in XUV, the i0 minutes that
you asked for. I looked at
the WHITE LIGHT CORONAGRAPH
during the building block 32,
and no significant change
from the last pass. About
all I could notice, I thought
was rather insignificant,
was the 9act that the feature
over at 270 -well, actu_.11y,
280 the - of the dimness of
the two features. I told
you one looked like it was
under - overlapped over the
other one. The d_mmer of
the two looked even more dim.
Out on the west limb, the
the streamers that I described
there at the spikes did not
change any of their intensity,
lengths, or - or shape.

022 21 _6 19 CDR It surprises me to - to see


this H-ALPHA brightening much
sooner than XUV. I thought
XUV was going to give us the
quick and early dirty hits.
But if I'd have gone on
H-ALPHA brightening, and it
was obvious that it wasn't
Just a little fluctuating
bright point, it was going,
I should have gone ahead
and started, because I think
I could have started an
extra S0 seconds earlier
going on H-ALPHA. And the
beryllium aperature did not
step down to 3 until - well,
I didn't really get the time,
but I think it was probably
more like 21:19 or so when
it stepped down to 3.

/- 022 21 46 56 CDR This is CDR out.


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022 21 49 12 PLT This is PLT. The time is


21:50. I'd like to debrief
photographs I took during
the west coast pass starting
about 21:00. We came in
over San Francisco down
across Las Vegas, eastern
Arizona, and in that area
I took several pictures of
San Francisco area in the
mountains and snow cover
out to the east. One
good stereo pair of Las Vegas,
one good stereo pair of
Phoenix. Steer - not a
stereo - pair of photographs
cov- three photographs
covering the Grand Canyon,
Flagstaff, Flagstaff Meteor Crater,
and to the east of Flagstaff.
The - we should have the
Salt Verde watershed covered
fairly well with these
photographs. Then on down
to Central America, we came -
came out about -we came
down across Central - Just
a second, ... Mexico, and
coasted out about 97 west,
15 north. I was looking
down there and I saw a large -
well, I got a couple of
sunglint patterns in the
water which I photographed
which indica -which appear
to rev_l flow pattern of
the surface of the water in
a Bay of Tehuantepec, I
think is the - the name of
it there at about 95 degrees west,
15 north.

022 21 50 59 PLT Also, in this area Just a


bit to the - to the south
and east at about 93-94 west,
about 13 north, there was a
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large obviously circulation


eddy and it looked like it
had broken off. And it must
have been a good 250, 200 miles
in diameter, say, the eddy
pattern, itself. It appeared
to be swirling back hooked -
hooked back to the clockwise,
hooking in toward the shore
in _]most a complete circle.
Moving on down, I - at - at
about the same place, at about
91, say, 91 degrees west,
12 degrees north, I saw
several pieces of the red
tide which I had noticed
yesterday. This time it
looked to be like a half
a dozen large elongated globs
of this stuff. And whereas
yesterday, theywere- it
was all like a railroad train,
pretty well attached together
and running roughly northwesr
and southeast.

022 21 52 13 PLT This time the - there was -


the thing had all been like
a - derailed train and pieces
of it - of the red tide or
whatever this reddish brown
stuff is sort of in random
order. But generally speaking,
still along a northwest-southeast
line. And I - I kept watching
because it was not as much
of the red tide. The total
amount of material there
wasn't as much as what I'd
seen yesterday. So, about
150-200 miles on down the
way off of the Bay of Fonseca,
I saw more of the red tide,
but not as - not as much as
I saw to the north. And
- this timetherewas, oh,
probably three or four large
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pieces of it which I
photographed. They were
lying in the water Just
under some low stratus clouds,
so there should be enough
contrast between the red
tide and the stratus clouds
that you should be able to
see it.

022 21 5B 09 PLT Just when it's lie - when


it's on the water there, it
sort of hard to see although
the - the dynamic range of
the eye gives you the capa-
bility to - to de - to
de - to discriminate very
easily, they don't discriminate
it until once you see. If
you understand what I mean
is it's hard to see -
distinctively, but once you
see it, then its very easy
to pick up again when you
look for it. So I concluded
it'd probably be very difficult
to photograph, but when I saw
this stratus cloud, I used
that a8 a sort of a backdrop,
or a foredrop, I guess. And
w_s able to, I think, get
the pattern of the red tide
on the surface of the water.

022 21 53 45 PLT Wh_t I'm de - leading up


to is it appears as though
there has been some sort of
major turbulence activity
between 90 degrees west and
i0 north and about, oh,
97 degrees west and 13 north.
There's been some sort of
m_Jor turbulence activity
take place in the last
24 hours there. And I - I
thought it was significant
'_ enoughto reportit. Now
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we moved on down; we took -


took one more photograph in
South America - Just a minute -
handheld 155-9. So, all
in a11, we had to sort of
fit this in with other works
that we were doing, but I
think we got some pretty
good pictures on the west
coast, some good water
circulations stuff there off
the west coast of Central America,
and the one handheld in the
South American target area.

022 21 5h 41 PLT PLT out.

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022 20 33 55 CDR Appears to go along with ...

022 20 34 ii CDR and then ...

022 20 32 23 CDR - Charlie X-ray 18. Frames number


...... aligned. Started at about
07:41 and ended at ... zero through
2, f.ll, 1/250. At L7:49, I got
some lake ... 16 1/250. And then
at 17:51 and 17:52, I got pictures
on frames number 4 and 5 on the
red lsser at - Goddard and I took
one at an f-stop of 16, 1/250 and
that' because there was a lot of
clouds around, but because the
ground was dark, I decided to take
another picture at f/8 plus at
1/250. And that covers my activities
for the last two days.

022 20 33 33 CDR CDE out.

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I _22 22 59 51 FLT PLT. Time is_ 22:59, reporting
2 on the Falkland
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3 Just passed 9ver Gulfo San Matias
4 or San Matias. And the Falkland
5 Current flowing northward toward
6 monteuideo has an offshoot that
7 goes into Gulfo San Matias, I
8 was only abl_ to see a small part
9 of the Falkl_nd Current because
10 of the•poor lighting
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and cloud cover,
11 but thls - the currentis - looks
12 very strong _ud substantial at
13 this point _d I can see it at
14 about - let'S i see; what is it? _1
15 _0 degrees south latitude. And
16 that there's !a very strong offshoot
17 of it that g_es into the Gulfo San
18 Matias. And!actuallyit angles in
19 there, sort _f northeast/southwest,
20 although the Falkland Current it
21 comes up froiL the south from
22 southwest to northeast.
23 _.

24 )22 23 00 57 PLT PLT out. By the way, the current _ --


25 is floral - 'orel scale 7 to 8,
26 very heavy, harply defined right
27 now; looks t be about 25 to 50 miles
28 wide Judginglfromthe width of the
29 h--_erhead there at the Gulfo San
30 Matias. I w_uldsaythatit's m
S! about 3/4 the width of that h_mer- m
32 head there, _d that gives me a pretty -4
33 good ... - I d say about 50, O
75, maybe i0( miles in spots. Z
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36 )22 23 Ol 27 PLT PLT out.
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38 022 23 09 05 CDR This is the DR at 23:09 Zulu,
39 debriefing t e 22:1_ ATM pass.
40 _ WE did a JOPi6, building block i;
41 got through _hat without any
42 problems. A_d a special word for
43 82A. All th_se were in about
44 5 arc minute_. Got the VTR work out
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to use the n a_. S056 film, and of
4 course 82A _d B, I know there's
5 none left to-_ibeused. But
6 56 is readinl; 78, so until we get
7 a film budge', I was reluctant to
8 use any of t]Lat' otherwise I would
9 have spent a PATROL, SHORT. What I
10 did during m._" observing time is
II I noticed in the XUV that on the
12 lover side o:_ the east limb there
13 is some brig]Lt area. So I whistled
14 overthere_d withthe H- ALPHAi Pl
15 took a look Lt the limb area and I

16 found quite _bit of stuff coming


17 up over the :ide. Looks like a
18 prominence. I beg your pardon; it
19 was not - le's see now; yes/u, that -
20 Just a secon_ here, that - --
21 m
22 )22 23 lO 38 CDR Okay, I thir_ what I was looking at O
23 was prominen_ number - prominence 85. _1
24 Now that I l_ok at your - your card --
25 here - your SAP; in fact I'm sure "_
26 that's what it was. I'm looking at
27 prominence n_mber 85. That - The
28 area of activity is about 200 - 2
29 20, Or 30 - _bout 2 arc minutes long -r
30 Stands up 30 to h0 are seconds from Pl
31 the limb, an_ I'm _Imost positive now Pl
32 that that's _rominence 85 that I
lookedat. _ did a coupleof mini- O
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34 MARs on it d_wn to line 13, but as I
saidbefore,-iI was afraidto use P
36 anymore of that S056 film so I let the
37 PARTOL SH0 -,ISHORT go by the board.
38 And of cours4, I didn't even bother
39 to roll to get the slit tangent
40 .4- to the - to _he limb because I knew -
41 there was no|82B to worry about.
42
43 )22 23 ll 37 CDR
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2 Just took sor_ of a survey. Active
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4 one spot in i_ that was a good
5 steady 14,0001 counts. And I was -
6 kind of kept ,one eye cocked on that
7 all the time .I
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8 out, and during my observating time
9 it was down to about 600 counts.

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12 its wad now. JL
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13 plage anywhere that could give us a
14 count of more than about 400 or 500. F1
15 The - Gettin_ back to prominence 85. -4
16 There's a fi3_ament,that's coming around
17 the limb now where that prominence is,
18 a little piec$ of a filament, and
19 so by tomorrow it probably should be
20 pretty well _eveloped as a filament.
21 | rq
22 }22 23 14 _2 CDR The white light coronagraph, there was O
23 not a whole lot. of change except _1
24 the - the spike down at _ o'clock --
25 that I spoke about earlier now -4

26 looks like a _ivet


' the that's been
spike coming to a
27 twisted, the _-
28 point about Kalf way between the - the
29 occulting disk and the edge of the
30 TV presentatfon and then windens rq
31 out again. _ud it looks very much m
32 Just like a rivet that's been twisted.
33 The spike over on the east limb, O
34 there's no c_ange and the material - Z
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35 the streamer iand stuff, the very faint
36 stuff that I !could see up at 2 o'clock
37 extending down to about 2:30 or
38 3 o'clock Just about the same. Rather
39 diffuse, one ilittle line brighter
40 .. than the rest, but for the most
41 part, kind o_ noninteresting.
42 " i.
43 )22 23 13 35 CDR I took a ioo_ at the limb in the
44 " WHITE LIGHT - correction, in the
45 H-ALPHA I _u_ beyond active region 31.
46 I found a li_tie bit of surge activity
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2 the old actl_e regions that Just


3 went over the hill. There's Just
4 a little activity on the limb out
5 there in fro_t of active region 30 -
6 33 not 31. i guess that is just
7 about - Just labout the size of it.
8 I thought I _ad one other thing
9 to tell you but I guess I don't.
10 You're powered down for unattended
11 operations and when they come up
12 over the Vanguard I'll give you a
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21 forces, external to his ow, is a
22 sphere. Beautiful in zt's own way.
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togeiher sphere of water
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27 the floor or fl_ttering out on the
28 plate as it ould down there because :Z
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30 force acting on the water is the m
31 tension on tie outside which holds
32 it _11 together, Now this gives US
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35 mechanics which have a fair amount of "_
36 _pplzcatzon _n ither fields.
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38 SPT First we going to look at this sphere
39 and we're going to c_use it to oscillate.
40 We'll see what the modes of oscillation
41 _ sine; that is what shape it takes and
42 changes the s_ape takes moving around;
43 and then how fast it decays or damps
44 out. For ths particular study there
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2 of nuclear physics understanding
S one particular model of a nucleus.
4 And also in astrophsylcsalthough
5 there the force that holds the
6 fluid together is gravity, self
7 gravity like!in a star as opposed
8 to a surfaceltension .... here being
9 quiet a bit smallerthan what's
10 required to have any internal
11 gravity of i$'s own.
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15 colored, andlwe'll try to induce in
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32 the thread sSretched. The thread
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36 the sphere f_om moving away and
37 keeping it on the line of sight.
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39 a direction _hat we've done before,
40 -- and then we' i try it in an opposite
41 direction.
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43 )22 23 26 40 SPT Okay, let's ry this again. Let
44 me move our ine of sight down here
45 so you got a good background again.

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2 the oscillation so that the long -
3 the direction towards you along
4 your line of isight. Better warn
5 you, oeassio_]]y we have a slight
6 slip up, so I hope you a]l have
7 towels. Okay, here we go. Rather
8 than watch that one, let's try
9 that one again. Got the . .. was
10 not too good_
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12 22 23 28 05 SPT All right,
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IS asymmetrical ioscillation. By that
14 we mean, we won t have both sides D1
15 doing - trying to do the same thing
16 at the same time, but rather Just the
17 opposite. S_e if I can bring it
18 U_
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20
21 there.
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I personR.1]y find m
22 that the modes of oscillation here
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24 to getting back to trying to figure
25 Just how you would go ahead and -_
26 calculate th_se. I think we've D_
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28 of oscillation. Msybe you'll be
29 able to see with - playing these n_
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31 or second an_ third modes, m

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33 )22 23 30 29 SPT We'll try th I asymmetric once again. 0
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$4 Okay, there goes our friend drifting I-
$5 off. Let me ,'bring him back here ._
36 end we'll tr_ that once again. Come
37 on home there. Okay, I got the
"38 oscillation - or the, line of sight
$9 is not in the center. Let me get
40 that fixed and we'll have another
41 -- go. One mor_ asymmetrical. Now
42 that was alsd irregular. That
43 was not very _satisfying from the :_:
44 camera angle istandpoint. Let's -
45 let me see if I can't give you a
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I we're going to take our friend
2 here, and we"re going to make
3 him twice this size and see
4 how he behaves.

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22 23 39 31 SPT We're lookin J
here at big brother.
This fellow is 100 ce's of fluid,
8 water slightly colored. And
9 we're going to try to induce in it
10 the same oscillationswhich we 'we
11 seen before, i Now what we expec t
12 is that the shape or the modes of C
13 oscillation will remain the same,
14 but the frequencies should be a
15 little bit lower. It'll take -4
16 longer to go _through the same
17 changes and Shapes Just because
18 it's more massive, compared to the
19 surfact which is what really brings --
20 it back i_. iThat is the tension
21 on the surface is a restoring force _I
22 andthe mass_%sporportional
to O
23 the volumew_ have. So the larger _ nl
24 we make it, the longerthe time -4
25 should be for the oscillation, h-
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26 And the damp Lug I will not make
27 a guess on right now.
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29 ,22 23 41 ii SPT It ua,_1_y e_ds up in this type P1
30 of oscillation, but unfortunately pl
31 for you veiwimg it, you cannot -4
32 always see it_ very clearly. 0
33 Essentially i_t goes to a elliptical Z
34 shape in one direction and then F
35 moves into _ elliptical shape "(
36 90 degrees from that. If I can
37 start the oscillation along an
38 axis which isi exactly perpendicular
39 to your line bf sight, then you'll
40 -- be able to follow that. But as
41 you can see, ithis is a slippery
42 little customer and he likes to
43 Jiggle around! once you give him
44 the slightestl little motion.
45 I
"46 SPT Come on, old _iend; steady, big
47 fellow. Okay, now there's what I
48 -e ,,Id _11 i_a_uame ezci!!_tien

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before. It
2 tends to osc_llate so that at
3 extreme oscillation it looks like
4 a square wit_ rounded corners.
5 It has damped out pretty well; let's
6 try one along your line of sight.
7 And if this fellow lets go, you're
8 really goinglto get wet.
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10 022 23 k2 39 SPT
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Okay, now here - from my side view,
11 it looks exactly as we had before.
12 And you're seeing the edge - on view
13 now. Let's try an asymmetrical one.
14 Let the fellow damp down a little m

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17 022 23 43 20 SPT here.
Okay, we got an irregular one. By _
that I mean, it's _l_ost nearly
19 random. The iproblem w_th startlng

20 this course is you got to test


__ 21 the frequencies before you start so Pl
22 that one hand moves away exactly O
23 1/2 cyce before the other. Okay, __ _I
c< 24 let's Just t_ that one again. __
0 25 , | z
_- 26 SPT I think then_you'll note that when
u_ 27 you get out to the very edge that
O 28 the effect of the string - in other (_
29 words, the surface tension of the _r
0 30 water encounters it - is to retain Pl
m
_" 31 the bubble, iAnd of course, this
32 does alter the effect we're trying
33 •
to observe a_llttle bit but I think O
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34 in a very small way and it's the f-
35 only way to make this demonstration ,<
36 feasible. 0_e more; I'ii give her
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37 a go. J
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39 022 23 _,4 53 SPT There we go;,got a good one that
40 time. Now that 's a traingle. Show
41 you somethzn_ rather basic about
42 that in the _ in the sense - interms
43 of basic geometry. We started out
44 with the regular, symmetric oscillation.
45 We found thelextreme of the oscillation
46- tended to take on the form of a

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corners ; an
2 irregular on_ was one of a triangle
3 with rounded_corners. One more and
4 the we'll do isomething different
5 here. Come _n there_ big fellow;
6 get down here. NOw a cumbination of
7 asymmetric and symmetric. I think
8 we've got th_ picture on both of
9 them; let's Love on.
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12 TIM_ SKIP
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15 )22 54 39 SPT Hey, Jer. -4
16 :I:
17 CDR Yeah. What o you want? --
18 (J1
19 SPT WEll, I want d to know if bubble
20 on a bubble. ! Yeah, I'm go g -
21 to do the sa_e things, I guess, _1
22 I'm doing. And I think I'm Just
23 about out of!- out of H-Jar [?]. O
24 Why don't yo u Just tell me on -- -
25 channel B when you're going to -4
26 turn it on.

28 PLT Okay. b_
29
30 SPT Thank you, B Ii. m
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31 -4
32 PLT ... i, 2, 3-
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34 322 23 55 57 SPT Okay, now we re looking at the sphere Zr-
35 within a sphere. With all the .<
36 external part of the sphere, we
37 really have _ bubble of air on the
38 inside, a larger one on your right,
39 and then assorted smaller ones
40 _ scattered throughout which are -
41 seem to be unavoidable in the
42 " process of making a larger one. _
43 Then we're going to see what
44 " effect this large sphere of air,
4_ or large bubble of air has on the
46 effects we Just observed in pure
47 water. 0kay_ old friend; hold still
48 long enough.} Ah, we lost it. Well,
you saw it, Bubbling fans. This is one

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022 _23-56 ]43 -SPT .......Cut it off, Bill.--_ud_-_you-- .......... .

PLT ...

f 022 23 56 56 SPT I - I blew it. As soon as I put


that thing up the ... bubble ...
even though I ...

CDR Are you recording now?

SPT No, I'm not, Jer. You can turn


- that off. I'm sorry okay; very &_
- good.

_t 022 23 58 22 CDR This is the CDR at 23:58 Zulu,


reporting Earthobservation
handheld photos this time at 23:55 _-
- _ SakhalinIslandHH47. Frames 28 L

through 31 on Charlie X-ray 18,


- _ theHasselbald, takenat 5.6 -
Theseare low Sun angle,excellent
-_ weather. Got all sortsof good _
picturesof the ice packsall around -
the SAkhalin Island as well as -4

-_ _2 someprettygoodplumepicturesas --
-- 2 well. l_

z 022 23 58 53 CDR CDR out.

023 01 17 15 SPT Hello, Jer.. Okay, Jer, why don't


you go in around 15 seconds and tell
me when you do.

CDR Okay....

023 01 18 l0 SPT Once again, the bubble within a


bubble. The outside contour is
perfectly spherical. The inside one
is a sphere up to the point at which
it intersectsthe surfact itself.
To you in the front end it looks
_ like a perfect sphere,but it has
z_ _ a bubble on the inside. But it is
.... only to the point where it intersect
:_ the front surface. Okay, now let's
try onceagain.
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: SPT No, I blew it. I didn't get it


._ done .... oh shoot; oh well, another
= day, another dollar. Well, I gotta ;
... _ or 5 ... days ...bubbles in
there ... unless we go_ to the
_ point - oh well. I'll try it
I tomorrow ...

i_ CDR Oh, boy!

L: SPT Go ahead, Jet, say it.

"- CDR What, what? fr_


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- _? 023 01 20 57 SPT Tell them you got a SPT doing -


• _ _ slowly going off his rocker. Who'll =

7-_ _ } be ready for the rubber


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023 01 _7 37 SPT ........


SPT _ 01:h7_--Handheld-ph_
[: on mag CXl8. Frames
number32 and 33. Taken
01:43.

023 01 h8 05 SPT They were taken in an area


east of Hawaii, excuse me,
westof Hawaii.The ...right i
on top of the fresh frigate
• shoals. I suspect they were
sea mounts, perhaps nuderneath,
but what they showedup _ is
_ upwelling, brightgreen,and
81most green, and almost yellow v
! in one center. The upwelling
"_ distance across was about 20 ,.
miles, 30 miles. And you could -U
see a rotation to it, that is
there were two spi ral arms _
_ i
-_ _. coming off of it. And I cannot [..
;_" recall _ this moment which _..
• rotationit was. It was definitely _,
_' _ Upwelling, and it looked like a - -S
- ..... " _ Just a single point source from --
_. _ whichthe upwelling spreadout.
- - And I was surprised that it looked ..
L" like a point source in that I would [_
suspect that it would come up one [_
side of a - of a sea mount, and not __
necessarily both sides. But maybe _
_:_ thephotoswillrevealreally _
what the flow is.

023 01 49 26 SPT There were two of them just about


01:h3, and there was an island
_sible, very small, between them;
maybe _out at a lO0 miles-150
mile separation between the island
and each sea mount, sea mount on
=i either side of the island. And they
were directlyalong our ver -
.__ flight,which was descending,
_ Joinedby Hawaii.

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! 023-01 h7 37 SPT-----SPT a_ Ol:h7. Handheld phbto_


on meg CXI8. Frames
number 32 and 33. Taken at
: 0_.3.

023 / h8 05 SPT They we_e taken in an area


• east oflHawaii, excuse me,
west of/Hawaii. The ... right
on top/_iofthe fresh frigate
shoals.I I suspect they were
sea m_nts, perhaps nuderneath,
_ hut w_at they showedup as is
• upwe_ing, bright green, and
81mo_t green, and almost yellow
in o_e center. The upwelling _
distance across was about 20 -
_ _ mil_, 30miles. Andyou could
see _ rotation to it, that is
ther_were two spiralarms
_ comi offof it. AndI cannot "
i recall a_-tT_/_smomen_ _which
" rotation it was. It was definitely
_- _ upwelling, and it lookedlike a - :
-- _ -- : Just a single point source from --
[_ _ whichthe upwelling spreadout. _-_
-- :_ And I was surprised that it looked .
__ - [ like a point source in that I would
[ i suspect that it would come up one -
side of a - of a sea mount, and not
_, necessarily both sides. But maybe _
_ thephotos willrevealreally _'
whatthe flowis.

023 01 h9 26 SPT There were two of them just about


Ol:h3, and there was an island
visible, very small, between them;
maybe about at a I00 miles-150
mile separation between the island
and each sea mount, sea mount on
either side of the island. And they
were directly along our ver -
! flight,which was descending,
Joined by Hawaii.

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023 13 19 31 SPT SPT 13:19; ATM pass which began at 12:12.


Building blocks were run as called out.
Building block 1 A, 1 B, as specified,
ATR. Aslo added the H-alpha 1 after
lO minutes of daylight exposure, on
H-alpha l; details not available for
that. It still looked pretty good,
althought it had degraded somewhat
by tha$ time. I'll try to turn the
monitors off between orbits and see
whether that will make a difference in
the quality of the H-alpha.

023 13 20 14 SPT The single exposures for 82B will be


done at exactly 18 minutes remaining.
Think i0 exposures taken. 233 as
specified. J0P 7 was done at a
brighter spo$ in active region 31,
which was showing about _000 in Jumps in
._ oxygen VI, then run down to 40 K.
SPT out.

023 13 20 50 SPT SPT at 13:20_ M092 from day 022.


Same of this information did not get
down yesterd%y for some reason. The
PLT will be recording the - leg _Imension
and all the _ertinent data .... objectively
it was a verM straightforward and easy run.

023 13 21 25 SPT I had h_d . .. exercise in the morning; the


usual 8 thousand watt minutes, which
I went at a pretty high rate for a good
part there. _And, diid lose a lot of body
water; that is I sweated a lot and expected
that the fluid level ])e down and I would
have more pr@blems with M092, but I
experienced _one at all. The I did
get a little _bit of water and [[[ pulse
pressure narrowed to about 25 but I
experienced no symptoms and the aching
in the back and the legs was - was not
apparent _ but Jr%st a feeling of fullness.

023 13 33 33 SFT I did get uncomfortable in the saddle, and


a couple of times it did happen to ...
f aroun_ which you may be able to see in
your data. Other than that it was a
mnuminal run. For MD93 where the exercise
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portion, which . .. began at 11:35


and went for 300 watts. That and
the stoppage; it stopped ... 9:h5
or 9:43, somewhere in there ....
you ... extra time of recovery ...

SPT SPT out.

023 13 27 19 CDR This is the CDR at 13:27:30 Zulu.


The subject is S073 operations.
We started out trying to record this
morning with our audio muffler
amplifier number 1 circuit breaker
OPEN.

023 13 27 37 CDB So we'r_ going to have to go back


and rerecord a little data, some of
which i6 S073. S073 was started on
time at 13:07 Zulu, frame number h6
in Nikon 02; and, let's see, that's
Bravo Victor h9 is the - is the
cassette, frame number _6, is
exposure i, which is i0 seconds.
Exposure number 2 is frame number 45.
And that was for 2 minutes. That
was started at 13:07:15 and terminated
at 13:09:15. Frame number 3 - correction,
exposure number 3 is frame number 4h
and that was started at 13:11:05 for
2 miDutes. Frame number h3 is exposure
number h. That was started at 13:13
and 15 seconds for 5 minutes.
Exposure number 5, is frame number h2,
was started at 13:18 and 30 seconds,
went f@r 8 minutes.

023 13 29 01 CDR We're n_w on exposure number 6, which


is on frame number - well, let's see_
the counter iS off Just a tiny bit.

023 13 29 17 CDR We should be on frame 41; yes. I'm going


to move the little indicator a little bit
to get it aligned properly. We're on
frame number _l which is exposure
number 06. I started that on time at
13:27 a_d that'll go for 6 minutes.
CDR leaving the line for a little
while.
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023 13 32 47 CDR This is the C])R. Subject,


S073 operations. We're c_ug
up on 13:33 Zulu and it will be
termination of exposure number 6.
Stand by -

023 13 33 00 CDR MARK.

CDR 13:33 Zulu; termination of exposure


number 6, which was frame number _i,
and l'm cocking the shutter now.

CDR And that terminates S073 operations.

023 13 33 22 CDR CDR out.

023 13 h9 h7 CDR This is the CDR. The time is 13:50 Zulu.


And I'm - the subject is S183 malfunction
procedures. And I have completed step 1
through _, 5, 6, and 7. And I'm ready to
start step number 8 which is SA panel
POWER ON. And I will do that at
exactly 13:51, on the money. That's
about 15 seconds.

CDR Okay. And you want it to the nearest


second. 13:51; stand by -

023 13 51 00 CDR MARK. The power is on. All right, the


PLATE indicator does illuminate. I'm
looking at number 01.

023 13 51 14 CDR So that means that I can skip


numbe_ 9, step number 9. All right,
now. Step n_Imber l0 is I Just kind
of kee_ an eye on that while I do the
next one. SO step number l0 is done.
But I will record it exactly when it
goes out. If it does go out.

CDR Step number il_

CDR Okay. It's 1_een about 16 seconds


and the light is on. It's continuing
well. I'm going to set the EXPOSURE
switch to 20_ And I &id that at
\
axactly 52. Exopsure - let's see,
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indicator number i light is


on. All right. Now, I'm going
to do a SEQUENCE START, but l'm
going to wait and do that at -
I'ii do that at 52:30. Stand by -

023 13 52 30 CDR MARK. I did it at 52:20.

CDR I'll give you a mark when I start


hearing the clicks forr the exposure.

023 iB 53 O0 CDR Okay. Thirty seconds have gone by


and nothing has happened yet. The
PLATE light is still ill1-,luated.
0ops! It JsUt went out at 05.
So that'_ be 35 seconds after I
hit the SEQUENCE to START and that
was at 53:05.

023 13 53 29 CDR Okay. So, if - according to step ii,


if 5he indicator extinguisher
terminates aMAL, go to SA. So
I'm going toltake the SEQUENCE
switch and go back to STAND BY with
it now,

CDR And I did that at 53:41. 13:53:41.


The exposure- the little green
exposure lamp is out.

ODE I'm going toput the EXPOSURE swith


number one to the ZERO position. Now,
Just for - J_st for laughs here, I'm
going to tsk@ a look and see if the
RETICAL light's still working. It
is not working. I guess I didn't
really expect it to be, hut - So,
the illuminat - the RETICLE illumination
does not work either. Now, I guess this
is what happened with Bill, too. So I
guess our problem _s in - in the
lighting somewhere now.

023 13 54 54 CDR Okay. This is the CDR. l'm terminating


the S183 MALiand terminating use of
the re@order _

CDR CDR _t.


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TIME SKIP

023 14 27 22 CDR This i4 the CDR at 14:27 Zulu.


The subject is Earth observations
handhold pho$os. At 14:13 1 used
the Nikon 30_millimeter coverage
of it.

023 14 27 46 CDR It was plenty clear and I got some


good pictures, I think, of the dunes
and things that extend right out
into the lake. Then at 14:20,
as we were going near Lake Tanganyika,
over near the city of UJiJi, I noticed
some small rivers flowing into the
like and we had quite a - quite a
batch of ... going into the lake ....
sedimentation and all. I thought that
the ideas of HH38 and lake circulation
probably held here at Lake Tanganyika.
So I went aheand and took a Nikon 300
picture of i%. I don't think a Hasselblad
would have done it because we're too far
away. The Nikon was Frame number 16,
the Charlie X-ray 42 and all the
Nikons taken _today were at 5.6, i/i000.
CDR out.

023 14 28 46 CDR Oh, this is the CDR also; a foot note to


that. I had_hoped to get a picture of
the river delta of the Zambezi
as it c_me out into the ocean; however,
cloud mover kept me from getting those
pictures.

023 14 28 59 CDR CDR out.

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0231601 ThisispT.T.Thetlmeis
16:02. Recording data for
M092. This fs for the day 22
run on the HA_A
_. Start time
was 20:15. The leg measurements
were 14-3/4 and lh and - - 8
Stand by i.

023 16 02 40 PLT The leg measurements were - on


the SPT -were 13-5/8 and
13-1/2, left !and right,
respectively_ The leg bands
were Charlie iJuliett, and
Alfa Quebec. i And for MlS1,
the stop time was 21:40.
That's - it'_ for M)92. Now
for the M092 _ I3, on the
P - CDR on day 23 - that's
day of the year 23, start time
was 14:30; finish time was
/_ 15:55. Leg _ands were
Charlie Sierra and Alfa Quebec

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! 023 16 03 57 PLT Leg measurements were 12-5/8


and 12-5/8 r_epectively,
left and right legs on the
CDR.

023 16 04 07 PLT PLT out.

023 16 04 55 PLT This is the PLT answering


questions on M509 message
6856 Alfa-l. Question:
with regard tO yoursuite_ •
M509 r_u on mission dam 66
the observer's comments and
the dat_ indicate that you
flew faster _han on the
simulator. Do you feel you
would have flown at the rates
_f you had beem EVA? Answer:
no, I went J_st a little
faster than _ would have had
I been EVA. iDid your concern
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for conserving the battery


affect the way you flew? Yes.
Because of the probl_, we had
on the previous day, I was
concerned about finishing the
run. I - I was not nearly
as careful to get the precise
attitude. I was satisfied
with a much coarser alignment
at the station-keeping point.
For the baseline maneuvers,
were you as Careful station-keeping
as on the simulator? No, I
was not, for the same reason
I was concerned about trying
to - to get data for you on
all the runs. And I was not
as - nearly as careful getting
precise statlon-keeping attitude.
And I - I so_ of assu_ed a -
a much more relaxed attitude
toward the actions involved
• and tried to _get frcm_ point
" "_ t'o point within, you know,
what I considered to be fairly
reasonable cdnstraints as far
as attaining _the attitude in
the pass reqUired in the - the
: baseline maneuvers.

023 16 06 46 PLT PLT out.

023 16 07 17 PLT Okay, a total work on the


CDR for mission day 69, M092
was 0 no, M092, that is, was
298; and for mission dsy 68
for the SPT was _00 watts.

023 16 07 40 PLT PLT out.

023 16 14 12 SPT SPT at 16:13_ ATM pass which


began at 15:19. Did this in
the same manner as we did the
previous pasB. Sun center
bUild/ng blodk 32, was carried
: out straightforward. Looked
, I
at the corona; saw no evidence
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of a prominence had lifted


off. Although I did see the
one on the H-ALPHA 1 display.
And it's Just a ... of what
looks like a prominence. It
was aboutan arc minute or so
above the limb andwith flow
lines radial, very faint ....
I took the image of the Sun -1
the way off the display and
Just left the off limb section
on the display so that the
automatic GAIN control would
increase the intensity a little.
Then we went over to the
active r_gion 31, did the
building block lO and then the
building block 28. And it
was carried out as- as spec fled.
We did the - video tape recoz@r
thework. I gavesomeXUV
MONITOR INTEGRATIONS at two
different times during the
orbit So tha_ if there were
any change perhaps it would
be evident there. I think on q
the next orbit we'll go over
and take a look at active
region 31. It looks, perhaps,
a little bit b_ighter than -
I'm sorry, active region 33.
And looks a little bit brighter
than 31. And also we got some
counts in there of about
7,000 or so in oxygen VI.
That locks like a candlda -
a good candidate also for this
type of study.

023 16 16 20 SPT SPT out.

023 17 22 38 PLT PLT. The time is 17:21;


debriefing hlndheld photographs.
Hasselhlad Chsm_ie X-ray 42
is the magazine. Frames 13 and
12 were taken of water pollution
on the northeast shore of
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Lake Michigan, one frame.


And one frame covering the
Chicago shoreline on ,_
Lake Michigan and lake ...
fairly wide-spread area of
pollution to the southof
Chicago. At 7 - - At 17:05
and extending later at 17:10,
approximately, four frames -
four frames of the New York City
and Long Island. And it -
concentrating on the ... in
the New York harbor area.
Some of the frames were taken
of Long Island to give -
to - to _ directed _o the
south shoreline of Long Island.
Those were taken at 5.6 at
1000 per second on a
300 millimeter lens and were
-- all ... photographs.PLT
now debriefing the Hanselblad
photographs ... island. This
is with Charlie X-ray 18, frame
number 25 taken with a
Von Karmon vortices .... very
elaborate system for docking
they had. I took one frame,
frame number 45, of that and
ll slides for - on ......

023 17 2_ 15 PLT PLT out.

023 17 26 09 PLT PLT with a delayed repor_ on


two handheld photographs,
l_andheld 77, 78 the dune area
on southwest Africa. 300 milli-
mezer lens. Stand by for time.
Taken at 15:58. And what this
was - I took them at 300 milli-
meter lens and I was trying to
document the affect of topography
on the dune i_ormation.This
is a fairly - rather large area
of the Sahara . .. scale, but
a fairly alrge area down there
sortof ...allby itself.
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And there are - there's a


river wash and there's all
sorts of hills there. And
both the river wash and the
hills influence in the character
and the formation of the area.
And the two frames, one before
the river bed and one of ...
mountains. And there are
separate affects on the formation
of the dunes. And the dune
photographs were Charlie X-ray 42
magazine, frames 15 and lb.
And I didn't make that very
clear, the river bed and the
mountains or the hills, both
seem to discourage the
formation dunes in the ...
area of both the wash and
_ mountains.

023 17 27 hl PLT Now, I may've thought that was


a wash _md it may have been
a low-profile mountain range.
But it sure did look like
a wash.

TIME SKIP

023 17 48 07 SPT SPT at 17:48 picking up on


S063. It's got BB41 ......
looking at frame 39, the first
one. Everything is functional
on the reticle system. It's
got the range of 40. And we've
got the TILT to 30_degrees;
we've got the ROTATION,
1.2 de6rees which is supposed
to be 30 degrees. We're waiting
for 16:50:30 for the first
exposure which is going to be
64.

SPT ... the lens on. l've got the


little filter[_].
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SPT RESET on time.

023 17 50 28 SPT ... coming up and I'm looking


through and I don't see any
airglow. I don't see any
horizon. I'm on the track I
of one. Nothing. The ring
track's not going to help.
Let me try two. I've increased
the TILT. No affect, to
increase the TILT.

SPT Obviously, th_ numbers are not


good.

SPT Attaboy, All right, let's go


back and look at the initial
one ... ROTATION of 6.1 degrees,
6.1 ROTATION. Let me go back.
Righ t not I've got 1.2. At
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6.1, We're
looking for 173 ,

SPT There's a 3. NOW m_ybe there'll


be something in there. Nothing.
Not a thing. No HORIZON
anywhere to he seen. Tracking
the ring lock across the ring
the full way.

SPT Nothing, a flat nothing.

023 17 54 57 SPT All right, let's go hack to


your original numbers. We'll
try that once again. Nothing
but stars out there. I sure
wish this thing had thought
to have - thought out better
on the ground.

CC Skylab, this is Houston through


Carnarvon for l0 minutes for
the data/voice _ape recorder
dump. And a ... hold off on
the dump till you're through
using it. And a question for
the CDR: running the S183 ...
step 14.
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SPT i, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

CDR ... 35 seconds.

CC Roger, we copy.
SPT Golly, I got to play this thing
by ear. No other way. You
already missed your twilight.

SPT All right, with 56 I'll try


and get you a couple of exposures
before 58. Just twisting around
in ROTATION, I've found that
we're Just going to have to
try to find some way of getting
that mirror back in. I had to
do it this way.

sPT All right. Turn all the ...


and went tracking. Here's
one exposure with the visible.

023 17 58 13 SPT MARK. SHUTTER, CLOSED. All


right, I got to press on. In
fact, I can give you a reading.[?]

SPT Oh, boy. When I talk I've got


to plan to hold the light
in my teeth.
• t

SPT All right UV lens is on. 58,


okay. We're just going to
press on and do as many as
we can up to 18:11.

023 17 59 46 sPT Now, I got towing it again;


try to find the darn horizon.

SPT Now, here's the horizon.

SPT First of all, once one crewman


got proficient at this, I
don't know why you got to
pass - pass the training Job
ontoanother one.

sPT Here it is. Let me get the


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ring rotated. You change both


TILT and ROTATION ; now change
the ring. Now the arc. At
last, I'm set up to take some
photos - would you believe it?
i
SPT All right, tracking.

023 18 00 57 SPT MARK. Frame 2 with the UV.

023 18 02 03 SPT MARK. SHUTTER closed.

SPT All right. This ROTATION once


again. Arc's on track going
back. Change the ring. Okay.
Here goes frame number three.
Stand by.

023 18 02 35 SPT MARK. I'll tell you what, it


would have been a hock of a
lot easier had you not thrown
in that extra little whifferdill
of changing the ROTATION around.
I don't think it was necessary
and I think it was - poor
Judgement. A lot of other
experiments that depend upon
the use of this airlock, the
AMS.

sPT Now I'm off in Never-Never Land


with thgt ROTATION and we've
got to look through and figure.
out how to get it back in again.

SPT I'm in sympathy with the


objective of this experiment,
but not in the ways we're
go,lng about it. I think it's
octupus operations combined
with poor Judgement. Until
we overcome those two things,
you're not really going to get
the data you're after.

sPT Frame 3. Okay, go onto


frame 4. Change ... TILT back again.
J.

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SPT Frame h.

023 18 04 02 SPT MARK.

CC Skylab, this is Houston;


oneminuteto LOS ...Guam
for a dump. Over.

CDR ... Ed's in the middle of ...

CC We 'ii do that.

CDR Okay.

023 18 05 05 SPT All right. I'm having to change


the ring track, as well as the
arc. Okay, exposure over.
Look for another one. Kept
the tilt all the way as far
as I could. It shouldcome !
up to the top of the - top
of here and start to come
back. Okay. I'm tracking.
Stand by.

023 18 05 28 SPT MARK. Shutter's open; we're


tracking.

SPT Okay. The last time I didthis,


it was able to work out fine
because we could not diddle
with ROTATION.

SPT Okay. I'ii tell you one thing


we don,t enjoy being put in a
spot like th_s - not one bit.

SpT Exposure over. I can't move TILT


up anymore. Okay, we're Just
about to the top. Then we're
going to wing it, move ROTATION
down. Who knows how much ....
less than zero. Okay - go to
the next exposure. Stand by.

023 18 07 ii SPT MARK.


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SPT Say, ... lots of lightning


in in your exposure ...

SPT That's some good film we're


putting out down there.

023 18 08 16 sPT MARK. Exposure's over.

CC Skylab, Houston through Guam


for ...

SPT Maybe it's a good time for a


couple more.

CC And for the SPT, hat to interrupt


you ... SO53. Out.

SPT Cut.

023 18 07 03 SPT Okay, they're going to take


away my recorder.

CC ...

END OF TAPE

k
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023 18 12 30 CC ...

SPT Okay, that takes care of that exposure


I picked up in here. Let's see if I've
got time for another one here. Yeah,
we'll squeeze in one more. See what |
time is the ... 14:50, okay ....
Stand by.

023 18 lO 55 SPT MARK.

CC ...

CDR Okay, no problem. I'll get ... and -


by the way, ... in the c_and module.

CC Okay, ... understand what happened


there, Jar.

.... CDR ... but I don't know if it was the


handradlo or what.

023 18 12 05 SPT Okay, exposures over. Let's go ahead


and change the filter and the lens.

SPT Another flashlight ... in operation.

CC Skylab, Houston. We have the ... so


the ... in the workshop and the ...,
over.

PLT Okay, thank you ....

CC Allright
.... |

SPT Okay. That's got that done. Now


18:15:30, you want to terminate
these _fore 18119:35.

CC Just for your information, ...

023 i8 18 03 SPT Okay, I think that I changed that filter


got set up a little quicker than what
was allowed here.

f SPT Okay, we're going to try and give you


\
as many as we can of the visible here.
F
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In fact, we got three called out,


there were four possible. Well,
we'll see how many. We can get
the four and ones at the beginning,
all we got w_s one and I don't
believethat was too accurate.
Alright, there's the horizon aggn.

023 18 15 l0 SPT Okay, at 15:30 is when I'll start


the first mode. Okay. Coming up,
start tracking. Okay, on to the ...
Stand by.

023 18 15 38 SPT MARK.

SPT Got a good solid track.

CC ...

SPT Elevation of that there is changing


rapidly.

CC ... last week or so and we have


a message being prepared - ccmet_
to you hopefully and ...

SPT Okay, now ...

CC ...

SPT •..

cc ...

SPT Stand by -

023 18 17 i0 SPT MARK.

CC ... stabilizes.

CDR Okay.

CC ... ne_t station contact in


15-1/2 minutes _through Goldstone
at 18:24 ....

CDR .,.

CC Roger.
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SPT Pay much attention to field


of view on this one.

SPT All right, I made a major


change in ROTATION there.
Stand by.

023 18 18 44 SPT MARK. Now we're tracking.


I think we might have gotten
off on the opposite horizon
on that one. It 's worked
it's way off to the edge
of the field of view where
I couldn't get a TILT or a
ROTATION. A TILT or -
ringlock, arc drive, anything.
Now we got a good one. Got
a good horizon. All right,
let's try one more. It's
." got to be - What have we
got there? We've got - fine
19:39. All right. We Just
finished that one up in time.
19:35. Maybe a little bit
over thgt. May1_e 5 or
l0 seconds. The frame count
is now _t 29, with 28 as your
last exposure. And we got
3 of the last visible, and
you'll have to figure out
from the initial frame count
Just how many of the others
we wereableto get. We got
1 first - 1 visible, visible
frame and the last three
were visible. "And the ones
in between were all UV, I
think the IV worked out real
well, but teh visible's not
too well at all.

023 18 20 56 SPT I did this initial tracking.


Initial position. And it's
way far; out. Could not be
found in the position of -
35 degrees. 1.2 rotations
clockwise, and 30 degrees TILT.
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The horizon was nowhere to


be seen. I then tried going
the original path position,
173, which was 6.1 turns.
30 degrees TILT, nowhere to
be seen. I then Just flat
searched around - around in
ROTATION 'till I was able
to find the horizon. And
then Just had to go from
there. Now Just wish _e
luck in trying to get
the MIRROR back in.

023 18 21 48 SPT SPT out.

023 18 26 07 PLT PLT note to IMSS medical people.


When I was sampling - doing
a microbiological sampling,
I used vial 4 Echo, that's
lower case echo, od the OWE
forward dome Center hatch
cover f_ring. Then I used
vial 3 echo, on OWS wall
behind film vault. I got
out of sequence on that.
And other than that, everything
was reasonable good.

023 18 26 39 PLT PLT out.

023 18 49 08 PLT PLT debriefing handheld


photographs. Hasselblad
Charlie X-ray 18 is the
magazine. Approximately
18:hO, 18:h3. Took 5 frames
of the midwest, excellent m

view of snow cover in the -


area to the west and south
and also to the east of
Chicago as f_ south as the
Tunnel reservoi_ in Kansas,
which was my ERE? target I
missed yesterday because the
cloud cover was wide open.
-- One very unusual snowfall
pattern extendiDg fram the
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north-northeast of the
Tunnel reservoir down almost
to the Tunnel reservoir, a
very n_rrow pointed - it's
a streamer-like snowfall
pattern. Looked like they' re I
splitting ... on the ground
is what it looked like,
very, very sharply defined
along the edges and so forth.

023 18 50 0T PLT This was one of the few things


they wanted, although it was
on land, but it looked like
to be land - of land origin
instead of water origin as
though there was a case ...
on the Great Lakes. One -
one photograph of St. Louis,
unfortunately,I forgotto
change the f stop; I had
f/16 for the snow cover. I
took one of St. Louis at 16
and that was frame number 50.
Two frames of South Carolina
from Cape Hatteras down at
Charleston, frames 51 and 52,
I - you know - these coverage
Cape Hatteras _ncluding the
water pattern an_[ the pollution
or at least the Bedimentatlbn
pattern and then _it looks like
they've had an awful lot of
heavy rain around Charleston, I
Beaufort, and so forth, along
in there. And I took a picture
of the coastline there and
it was a lot of hinterland
also. And the - there should
be some pretty good _coverage
there on water, pollution. I
was tal_ng it at f/8. One
frame of Grand Bahama, and
surrounding islands, was
excellent example of island-
generated cloud streets.
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023 18 51 14 PLT PLT out.

023 19 21 20 CDR This is the CDR at 19:21


Zulu debriefing the 18:26
ATM pass. J0P 6, building
block 32 went with no problem.
JOP 2A, building block 4, was
kind of a rough start, while
I gathered up m_ marbles.
When we started this series
today, active region 17, which
I think is right - right on
the limb, Just west of active
region 33, looked quite bright.
And so I whistled over there
and took a look at it in
oxygen VI, and was getting
counts up to 5, 6, 7000. And
so I said well, maybe this
is the one that's going to
flare. I'll go ahead and
do my J0P 4 on that. And I
had the GRATING to set, so
while I was set_iug the
GRATING, I went ahead and
fired up an ac - PATROL SHORT
on 56. And I started looking
at the XUV MON_ and and behold,
active region 31 began to
brighten up considerably on
the XUV, and I Just finished
observing it with oxygen VI
and it looked pretty dull then.
And the countswere down 1
around300 to 800, in that
area. I looked at H-ALPHA
and it Was getting quite
bright.

023 19 22 49 CDR So, I termin_&_ed 56 and I


think t_ere was ,about 1 -
1 frame or 1 filter to go,
terminated 56 -went galloping
down to 31, set up on the
bright spot, and it had already
started pooping out. And the
Oxygen VI count had gotten up
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to around 8 or 9000 and now


has dropped back down to
about i_00. So I said ah
the heck with it, I'll go
ahead and start the JOP h,
or JOP 2A building block 4,
and I Just used active region 31.
So I started PATROL, SHORT
over again and got the MAR
going and I went ahead with
that, and goz finished with
JOP 2A, and had about
h or 5 minutes of observation
time so I went around and
surveyed the active regions
in oxygen VI again, and they
were not too terribly interesting.

023 19 23 52 CDE There was one bright spot


-- in active region 33, that I
sat on for about 3 minutes
and I watched it build from
5000 up to about 9500 bumped
i0 a couple of times. And
then sailed right back down
to 5000 again so I - I don't
know if you'd call that a
subnormal flare or not, but,
there was no significant
brightening in "XUV and it
was all in H-ALPHA and it
did definitely get brighter
in H-ALPHA. _nd - and it
sailed back down in $o
oblivion again. So with
what little time I had
left, I decided to go over
and I took a look at
prominence 84, correction
85, and that has diminished
significantly since I looked
at it yesterday evening.
PromineNce 84 is - looks
like it might be on the build.
It's a very low little tight
arch. But, it's pretty strong
looking and it could be that
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it - it will grow. I
resolved to take a look at
it at the next period and -
and see if there's any - any
change in that particular
prominen ce. ]

023 19 25 05 CDR There's a filament over


at about 270 or thereabouts,
coming around a limb. And -
but I didn't see much on the
limb - in the - in the at -
atmosphere Just off the limb
to indicate there was much
of it. It was Just sort
of a quiet filament coming
around the corner.

023 19 25 32 CDR WHITE LIGHT CORONAGRAPH,


/ I Just didn't get a chance
" to - to lookat. I whistled
through building block 32
and moved on tO JOP 2A and
Just really didn't take the
time to look at the WHITE
LIGHT CORONAGRAPH this time.
So I don't have anything to
say about that. In _IJV MON,
outside of the active region
31, 33, 17 complex, is a
great big nothing. It Just
doesn't show a thing.

023 19 23 56 CDR CDR out.

023 19 26 05 PLT Okay,this is the PLT.


Trying to get a bit of an
early start on the TO02 using
Alphard and Proeyon. Tempera-
ture is 70 degrees. I've
Just taken a zero bias;
readings were- the CDR was
recording. The readings
were 0006, 0009, 0006, 0006,
0005. _owever, if you want
time tags, I'm going to give
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you five quick more - five


more quick one, that is.
And I'm using Alphard.
Stand by -

023 19 26 50 PLT MARK. O00h. Stand by -

023 19 27 07 PLT MARK. O0 - oh, can't read


it. I hit the doggone
wheel. How about that.
Yeah, it's definitely off.
See if I can make a positive
effort to let go of that thing.

023 19 27 37 PLT MARK. 0006.

023 19 27 52 PLT MARK. 0005.

023 19 28 Oh PLT MARK. 0006.

023 19 28 15 PLT MARK. 0006. Stand by -

023 19 28 28 PLT MARK. 0006. Okay. Procyon


and Alphard, 30 degrees.

PLT Okay, ready to start data.


Wardroom window cover is
removed. Sorry about that.
Just cloud the data. And my
diopter is minus 1.6; filters
are all out. Now, come on.
Let's be there. Next ...
find Procyon.
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PLT There we go.

023 19 30 30 PLT MARK. 30361.

023 19 31 i0 PLT MARK. 30345. And I am moving the


wheel when I take my hand off, and that's
one of the problems. That is an opera-
tional problem of the hardware. And we'll
Just go ahead and take them the way they
are.

023 19 31 45 PLT MARK. 30366.

CDR Hey, Bill?

PLT Yeah.

CDR ... charge on the battery ... M509.

PLT Okay. M509, starting the CHARGE on


BAT 7, 19:30. If you'll give that to
the M509 people. With this awkward
posture, with my hands all wrapped
around and looking like an octopus
here, you Just can't make as good a
marks; that's all there is to it.

023 19 32 49 PLT MARK. 30366.

023 19 33 16 PLT MARK. 30356 . Take a look at that


before I touch that again. Yeah,
looks pretty good.

PLT Stand by.

023 19 34 21 PLT • MARK. • 30360.

SC (Music: "Mrs. Robinson" by Simon


& Garfunkel. )

023 19 34 53 PLT MARK. 30351.

023 19 35 08 PLT MARK. 30361.

023 19 35 40 PLT MARK, 30366.

SPT ... okay ...


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CDR ...

SPT I had it all lined up. I looked in


there ... filter ...

SPT Everything... Here we go, Bill. |

CDR Yes/q, I believe so ...

023 19 36 06 PLT MARK. 30366.

023 19 36 27 PLT MARK. 30361.

023 19 36 49 PLT MARK. 30362.

023 19 37 13 PLT MARK. 30355. - Let me take a look at this


one and - before I move. Nope. Looks -
back up - it looks good.

023 19 37 38 PLT MARK. 30361. I can't explain that 305 -


what ever it was. Cause it looked good
when I Rut - took - took it back - moved
the sextant back out of the field of
view.

,023 19 38 06 PLT MARK. 30356.

023 19 38 32 PLT MARK. 30361. One of my problems here -


I think the reason I'm getting that
odd - those odd marks in occasionally
is the - when I bring the one star over,
and I wiggle the case back and forth,
you know to get the sort of trace of the -
of the movable star; it's not coming -
it's coming in at sort of an odd angle.
And I think I'm erring, making - an
operator error, in not getting the star
quite in line with the - the - Alphard
is moving from almost the bottom right
to upper left. And I'd say the view
would be northnorthwest to south/south-
east, and 12 o'clock would ,.. at the
top. If I mo - shake the ease or - with
the nor - normal ne - nervousness of m_
hs_nds, the - and I bring Proeyon down,
I'm using the same motion each time,
same direction of approach. I - I'm
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forgetting exactly what the ........


direction is through my trace.

SPT I thought ...

023 19 39 56 PLT MARK. 30357.

023 19 40 24 PLT MARK. 30350. Okay, I did that one.


I was Just sort of experimenting, to
see what my line of ... was.

023 19 40 52 PLT MARK. 30357.

PLT Too far. Have to do it over again.


That's what I did on the last one,
tOO.

023 19 hl 4_ PLT MARK. 30357.

_ 023 19 h2 08 PLT MARK. 30351.

023 19 42 38 PLT MARK. 30356.

023 19 h3 07 PLT MARK. 30358.

023 19 43 30 PLT MARK. 30351.

023 19 43 54 PLT MARK. 30360. Make that 30361.

023 19 44 25 PLT MARK. 30351.

023 19 h4 56 PLT MARK. 30355.

023 19 46 02 PLT MARK. 30362.

023 19 46 29 PLT MAZK. 30355.

023 19 h6 48 PLT MARK. 30356.

023 19 _7 08 PLT MARK. 30361.

CC Skylab, this is Houston... Guam ...


CDR, if his listening, I have ...

023 19 47 39 PLT MARK. 30360, 30361, that is; make


F that306- 361.
J
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023 19 h8 03 PLT MARK. 30361. Just can't get con-


sistent.

CC Skylah, this is Houston. We see


some time accumulated on the video
tape recorder. Would you like us to
clean it off here at Goldstone and
give it back to go? Over.

PLT Yeah, go ahead, Bruce.

CC Okay. We'll do that, Bill.

PLT I tried to gt some stuff on the


mouth of the Amazon River; there's
not over - what I put on there's
probably not over about 3 minutes.

CC Okay. Just ... our Inco watching


thingshere.

023 19 49 01 PLT Yeah, I think there were too many


clouds; it sort of zapped the - the
integrator.

CC Okay.

PLT Stand by.

023 19 49 39 PLT MARK. 30365. Okay, that's a good


ma_k, too. I - I'm at loss to explain
this variation.

023 19 50 i0 PLT MARK. 30350. i

CC And for the CDR, got a few words on


the state of the Sun for you there.

023 19 50 35 PLT MARK. 30355.

023 19 51 39 PLT MARK. 30361.

023 19 52 02 PLT MARK. 30355. Okay, that oughta hold


you for right now. Let's see -
temperature now in the case is 77 de-
grees. And Just for kicks I'll give
_f youanother nullbias.
f_

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Page 14 of 15

CC Skylab, this is Houston. i minute


to LOS. Next station contact ...
Goldstone at 20:ll.

PLT Okay, this will be on Regulus.


Stand by.

023 19 53 14 PLT MARK. 0006.

023 19 53 33 PLT MARK. 0004.

023 19 53 49 PLT MARK. 0000. And your off - it's off.

023 19 54 07 PLT MARK. 0004.

023 19 54 20 PLT MARK. 0000, Okay I'm gonna real


quick try to range out a bunch of
marks between Regulus and Alphard.
Just to - it's an easy one here, I can
._ get it in, I think. It's startingto
get daylight, but I think we can get
this one in. And that looks to be
about 223; let's try. Yea, a we'll
put it close 20 degeres. Maybe.
Okay, where are you, Regulus? There
we go. Okay 22.77. Well, don't -
don't take that mark, I'm just -
Okay. Okay, stand by.

023 19 55 58 PLT MARK. 22984.


o

023 19 56 18 PLT MARK. 22984. One of the reasons I'm "


doing this, is I want to see - I
think thry're right above each other,
and I have nice postural stability, is
what I call it. And I wanted to see
what kind of repeatibility I could
get when I have a posture - you know,
I don't have to worry about posture - a
cramped Rosture. And I am- I was
holding the sextant sideways and so
forth for the other two, but - stand
by.
f_

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023 19 56 58 PLT MARK. 22982. Stand by.

023 19 57 36 PLT MARK. 2297 - no it - 22980.

023195?57 PLT MARK.22984.


023 19 58 15 PLT MARK. 22985.

023 19 58 32 PLT MARK. 22983.

PLT Now this way I can tell when I slightly


overshoot.

023 19 59 lO PLT i MARK. 22979. And I way Just - had


a hunch that I overshot that one.
Overshot in the sense that the direc-
tion I'm coming in actually angles
across. Oh yeah, it's getting
daylight; that's why.
f_

023 19 59 44 PLT MARK. 22982.

023 20 00 i0 PLT MARK. 22983.

023 20 00 28 PLT MARK. 22983. That daylight gives


me a little blue background; makes
sure it actually easier to see
'em. For awhile here, anyway.

023 20 O0 49 PLT MARK. 22983.

023 20 01 20 PLT MARK. 22979. Okay, that's gonna


have to be it. PLT terminating
T002: Temperature is now 80
degrees. And diopter's still minus
1.6.

023 20 01 32 PLT PLT out.

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023 20 h3 32 PLT PLT debriefing the handheld


photographs. 20:10 is the time.
Charlie X-ray h2, frames 7, and
5. Two along the Oregon coast
and one - of the flooding, lot
of mud and so forth em - emptying
out in the mouth of the rivers.
Southern Oregon or Northern
California; I don't know which.
Could not identify the rivers.
One frame I took somewhere; I
don't know where. And frames
h and 3 were taken along the
northwest coast of South AMerica,
I think along in the Ecuador,
of river mouths. Two frames,
again, to illustrate pollution
and deposition of silt.'

023 20 hh 18 PLT *** ... Hasselbald frames. Let's


see, these - starting with the
Cascades and _o the ROckies,
snowcover. Coveredparts of z
Utah, Arizona, particular -
Lake Powell was one of the
Subjects in the Utah/Arizona -
Northern Arizona/southern
Utah border. Pictures of the
Salt River Valley, including
a large area there, sort of a
panorama_ that was 5hthrough
59; f stop varied from 16 to
14, 16 over the snow cover.
And two frames over Yucatan
current. I could not see the
current as such, but there was
a very suspicious _ooking cloud
pattern. So I went ahead and
took two frames, there, One of
sunglint pattern on the north
coast of Yucatan, and the other
out from the Yucatan looking
back across the Straits of the
Yucatan and toward Cuba.
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023 20 45 ii PLT PLT out. Those were frames 60


and 61, f/16.

023 20 50 43 PLT Okay, it's the pLT, coming up


on 20:52. Correction 20:51.
Standing by to start the S073
sequence. The SAL door is
open, and we have Nikon 2
installed with Bravo Victor 49.
And, let's see - the frame's
advanced_ the counter is now
reading 29.

SC (Music: It's So Nice to Be


With You." by Gallery)

PLT Stand by -

023 20 53 00 PLT MARK. Starting 10-second exposure.


Stand by -

SC (Music: "Lean on Me," by Bill Withers)

023 20 53 l0 PLT MARK. Termination. Okay, that


was frame number 29. Waiting for
20: 54.

PLT Stand by -

023 20 54 O0 PLT MARK. Starting their 2-minute


exposure. And this will be frame 28,
Bravo Victor _9.

PLT Okay, about 20 seconds to go.


Stand by -

023 20 56 00 PLT MARK. And advance film. Next


frame will be number 27, and
I'm waiting for 20:57. After
suns et.

PLT Stand by for starting exposure.


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023 20 56 59 PLT MARK. Okay, this is third


exposure, frame 3 and, in Bravo
Victor that'll be frame number 27,
Bravo Victor 49.

023 20 57 i0 PLT Going off the headset for a few _


moments.

023 20 57 40 CDR This is the CDR at 20:57 Ztulu,


debriefing the 20 :O1 Zulu ATM
pass. JOP 6, building block 28,
was done without any problems
at all; got all the exposures
done on time. And during observing
time, went up to active region 35.
The ground notified about half
way through my building block 28
that the active region that I
had been looking at on my last
pass, add had done the PATROL,
SHORT on, was indeed active region
B5, not active region 17, as I
had guessed. Active region 17,
according to the SAP is at ll0 at 1.
They said active regiQn 35 was at
100 at 1. Quite frankly, I can't
see the difference between the two,
and I can't even find active region
ll. There is a prominence, however,
at about ll0 at l, or something
like that. And I suppose that's
prominence number 84, and I guess
that must have something to do
with active reg,_on 17, but I'm
not sure. Ar_rway, that prominence
and - is not_ does not appear
to be Qonnected to active region 35.

023 20 59 02 CDR On active region 35, I did an


ACT l, LONG, and was doing some
mini-MARs on it, and I notices
that the INTENSITY DATA count
was going up. So I stopped and
took a look at the brightest
point, and I watched it move from
-- about18,000up to about28,000. ;
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And I told myself if it - if


it broke BO,000, I would go
into the FLARE mode. I had no
PMEC that I could believe cause
we were in the South Atlantic
anomally. The XUV was not !
doing much brightening. This
is an awfully small point. And
active region 31, which is a -
a larger plage - plage reason -
or region, did not have an
oxygen VI count any higher than
about 4 to 5 thousand. However,
its brightness on the XUV _NITOR
was considerably brighter than
that of this little active region
35, and I decided the reason for
that had to be the size of
the - of the region rather than
the brightness in XUV being emitted.

023 21 00 16 CDR So at active region 35, when it


broke through about 22,000, I shifted
the 56 over to'AUTO, LONG. I'd
Just finished up the ACT l, LONG
and so I st - put it in an ATU0,
LONG a_d continued the mini-MARs
stopping ever_ once in a while to
look at the - at the INTENSITY
count. And it peaked out, as
I said, at about 28,000 and then
fell back down again. And in
H-ALPHA the _ctive region began
co fade, but it was getting quite
bright in H-ALPHA.

023 21 00 48 CDR After that I went down to active


region BI. And I noticed what.
appeared to bea big, wide, rather
diffuse filament suddenly had
formed and looked like it was
headed for the limb, and I
decided that must be a surge.
And what I was seeing was a surge
kind of at an oblique. I ehanged
_- the INTENSITY a_d brightness-
CONTRAST BRIGHTNESS on the TV and
f_
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could not see any indications of


it over the limb yet. But I
went ahead and did a PATROL, SHORT
and two mini-MARs on active region
31. And by then my time was
up. I went on over and did the
J0P 7, bukldlng block 15, and
that terminated the ATM pass.

023 21 01 37 CDR The XUV MONITOR had not sig-


nificantly changed from last time.
Active region 33, and it's - you
can't really see that it's
anything different on XUV MON.
The WHITE LIGHT CORONAGRAPH I
looked at, and it appears to
be somewhat the same as the
picture that Ed took this morning.
at 270 on the east limb. I have
a wide, rather squared-off
streamer,and then kind of
superimposed over that is a
pointmd one. The - the -
the breken off one looks like
it goes out about half way between
the -occ - occulting disk and
the edge of the scope, whereas
the - the point goes almost to the
complete distance of the - of
the scope. ANd it seems to be
overlaled right over _he stubby
one.

02B 21 02 29 CDR On the eas_ limb, I saw, again,


some overlays down at 4 o'clock,
or about, oh, lll20. It's a
rather broad based, short, pointed
szreamer moving out. But laying
over the top of that is a very
faint, slender 'streamer that's -
seems to be radiating at- if
you would say that the bright - the
fat one was 120, you'd Say this one
was I15, and they both look like
they have about the same base.
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Then there's a lot of hash that


extends out about 25 percent of
the distance from the occulting
disk to the edge of the screen.

023 21 03 08 CDR And up about 2 o'clock which is -


let's call that 075 degrees, _s
one weak but slender - weak and
slender streamer that goes out
about half the distance to the -
of the scope, three quarters of
the distance, I'd say. And then
up at 050 is another very slender
and faint streamer, moving out,
about the same distance only even
fainter than the one below it at 075.
And the hashy area that runs about
25 percent out - runs the way from
the topmost Blender streamer all
the way down to the _tubby pointed
one. That is, from about 050 down
to about ii - or 15 or 120.

023 21 03 54 CDR CDR out.

023 21 Oh 01 PLT Okay, it's the PLT. At 21:02 I


terminated the 5-minute exposure
and initiated the 7-minute exposure.
The present exposure, the 7-minute
exposure, will be frame number 26
in Bravo Victor 49. And that is
frame 04 in this sequence, the fourth
frame in this sequence. Okay, and
that's - and we're _iting for 09.

023 21 08 16 PLT Okay. Coming up on 09 in about


40 seconds, and I will terminate the
exposure at _l: 09 :05. Started the
7-minute exposure 5 seconds after
the even minute.

PLT Stand
by.

023 21 09 05 PLT MARK. Termination of the 7-minute


exposure. And that was frame number 26,
now going to f_ame number 25. And
f waiting for 21:10 to start the 90m_nute
expo S_Lre.
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PLT Stand by.

0_3 21 09 59 MARK. Starting 9-minute exposure at 21:10.


This will be the fifth frame in
the sequence, and it will be
number 25 on Bravo Victor 49.

0_3 21 l0 l0 PLT Terminating recording temporarily.


I
TIME SKIP

0_3 21 18 16 PLT Okay. PLT. We're coming up on


21:19, be time to terminate the
9-minut e exposure.

PLT Stand by.

0_3 21 18 59 PLT MARK. Advance film. Okay, that


was frame number 25. We got 24.
It was frame number 5 in the sequence,
frame number - 21:19 -

023 21 19 13 PLT MARK. Starting 21 - 5-minute


exposure at 21:19:15. Okay. And
we're going to terminate it at
21:24:15.

023 21 23 18 PLT Okay, coming up on about 1 minute


from 21:24:15, which is when we
will terminate exposure number 6
in the sequence, which will be
frame 24 on the magazine of the
cs/uera. $

PLT Stand by 15 seconds.

023 21 24 15 PLT MARK. Completion of exposures on


S073.

023 21 24 19 PLT PLT out.

TIME SKIP

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023 22 09 _8 SPT SPT at 22:10. _ Ha_hL=_--l_O_os,


mag CXIS; 21:55. We had frames
• 69. to 67, f/ll, 100-millimeter,
1/250 of a s_eond. There were
three stereo lpairs, along the
southern Cal_fornia ca - coast.
Taken from an oblique angle,
looking from the west. It was
relatively w_de open, and even
though we pro_bly will have a
problem with the haze at the oblique
angle, it sure looked good from
mu sts_dpoint. And I thought it
was worth a - a few photos.

023 32 i0 46 SPT We then had, on frames 68 and 69,


one stereo _ of Ba_a, California,
the southern part. The northern
part was under clouds. Again, oblique
angle.

023 22 11 04 SPT SPT out.

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023 22 2h 02 SPT SPT at 22:24. ATM ops orbit which


began at 21:32. Here we gave the
Sun center building block 32, looked
at corona. No significant change
since I last saw it this morning.
Perhaps one thing I could note is
a slight enhancement in the intensity
of the base of the two stre-mers
extending out frc_ about 120.
That's down there close to where
33 is _ active region 33 is making
a few waves. Okay, moved on to
building block i0; did that on
active region 33, ROLL of i0,000.
Building block 28, I did two
MIRROR, AUTO RAS','_s at a GRATING
POSITION of zero. Just for reference,
I ... pointed at the brightest
point in the active region, ROLL
with the horizontal SLIT tangent
to the limb - or parallel to the
limb and down to llne 13. I don_t
think Just got down to the very
f_
base of the active region.

023 22 25 25 SPT Then I went to 772. Actually, I


went to 775, so I ended up taking
another lap around the GRATING, but -
al_hough it took a little time
away from your study of transients,
you got a very good " a good GRATING,
AUTO SCAN at a relatively hot point.
It was about 7000 in xoyEen VI.
About - of course, it had a lot
of limb brightening associated with
it. Then at - while we're doing
the building block 28, truncated
MIRROR, AUTO RASTERs. At 22:00
hours even, I got a surge, I saw
in H-ALPHA. We were pointed right
at the - about one-thlrd of the
way up it. The surge extended about
i0 arc seconds below the site.
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In terms of the base, the limb


was about - I know the surge
actually was down -

SPT - yeah, down around i0 or some-


where was that they - they extended
up from the base about 30 arc
seconds and did not show much
change in the hydrogen continuum.
I think 73 is what we were looking
at in L_A',:CTOR 3. It started
out _t 600 and remained fairly
constant until 6 - 26:06 at
which it went to 700 and 800
respectively. And at 09 it was
back down to 700 and 12, back
down to 600. But the surge, itself,
which was about a 30 arc second
surged in H-ALPHA was - we had
centered and actually you get
same real good time history.

023 22 27 35 SPT SPT out.

TIME SKIP

023 23 35 17 SPT Hey, Jer, is the wafer switch


in TV?

CDR Yeab, it is.

SPT Okay, Jer, anytime.

SPT You got it.

SPT Okay, we're picking up again on


TV-107.

SPT Going to give it another go at


putting a bubble of air inside
• our bubble of water. To see what
effect this has on the oscillations.
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023 23 36 22 SPT C_ay, we've got outselves a bubble.


Now the trick is to get the
oscillation without breaking the
F bubble. And I think we'll let
it rotate around there a little
bit. Get the bubble in the center.
Now, the effects were rather un-
dramatic, except they tell the
story. The bubble did not oscillate -
this sphere did not oscillate any-
where near to the degree that it did
before. It received the ssme
forces, initially. However, it
damped very quickly. The effect
then on the gas inside, which is
compressible, damped the oscillation
much fas@er. ,We'll try it once
again, if I can do it without breaking
the - the gas bubble. Okay, they
were not really completely regular
oscillations, but they do demonstrate
the effect pretty well.

CREW Turn it off ...

023 23 38 ii CREW It's off.

TIME
SKIP

023 23 55 34 CDR I Just left it on channel A.

SPT Okay, good idea.

SPT Picking up again on TV-107. Jer,


we're ready to go.

CDR You got it.

SPT Okay, TV-107. This hazy looking


sphere that you see in front, is
cc_posed of water arts soap. Very
s_AII part of soap, maybe only
i percent of it or so, is actually
soap solution. Other than m-king
it cloudy, it also takes and changes
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the surface twnsion. Net result


of it is a decrease of surface
tension, so that if the sphere here
is going to act like a spring as
it oscillates, we should expect it
to oscillate a little bit slower.
Reduced surface tension also makes
it a lot harder to work with.

023 34 57 02 SPT So let's give it a try. Now maybe


you can see these plungers, if
you will, that I have on the side.
There are the top part of the
plungers from a syringe. And I
can give you the size later. That
will allow you to get a reference
for the size of the bubble we're
actually working with. For the
samp size bubble, that oscillates
a little bit slower and to me it
seems to dsmp quicker. That may
go along with the reduced spring
- force. Okay,now we'regoing to move
on to collision, collisions between
two spheres, fairly slow collisions.
It's slow coalescence and rapid
collisions.

023 23 58 ii SPT Things will get a little more


dynamic.

024 00 00 24 CDR This is the CDR at 00:00 Zulu


debriefing the 23:06 ATM pass.
Assigned were JOPS - JOP 6,
building blocks IA, B, and two.
And I thought I had done a sterling
Jop of getting it all done. And
some time during m_ observing
time, I noticed that the damn
GP_TING REFERENCE switch waa in
MECHANICAL. So therefore, all of
your GRATING POSITIONs are off
by 102 to lob counts.

024 00 Ol 00 CDR This is a trap that's built in the


system. When the guy ahead of you
use_ MECHANICAL, if he doesn't put
in back in OPTICAL, and you don't
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exactly what he's been doing, and


you don't check it religiously 811
the time, you're gonna get bitten.
Ed's been bitten a couple or three
times and this - now I've gotten
bitten. And it's a human error, but
it's a hmman error de - induced
by very poor human eD_ineering in the
panel. So I don't feel too terribly
about it, but it does disturb me to
think that all that S055 data is at
the wrong mirror setting - or,
GRATING setting. During my observation
period, I looked at building blocks
35, 33, and 31 without oxygen VI.
They're all very quiet and very
weak.

024 00 O1 58 CDR 35 is looking real bright. I


guess that's Just because it's on
the limb and you got a limb brightening.
I didn't think there was enough of
interest there to even fool with,
so I went on in - went on up to
a prominence, which is prominence
n_aber 84 and it's still nice and
strong. So I_ did a building block
28 on it. That's from shopping list -
let's see - shopping list item
number - number ii, I guess you
call it. I gave 56 a SINGLE
2, LONG for 5 minutes and a SINGLE
FRAME 4, LONG for 9 minutes, before
we went - we got to h00 K. And
the XUV MDN was very uninteresting,
nothing new. The WHITE LI(_T CORONA-
GRAPH is essentially the way I
described it to you on my last pass,
except that the two narrow faint
spikes at - I think I said fifty -
50 degrees - -

PLT Hey, Jerr, you ganna be very long?


I got a start in 8019 here 5 seconds
ago.
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CDR - - no, I'Ii be done in Just a


second. Those two spikes are Just
a little bit stronger. And the
recorder is needed by somebody
else and that 's _11 1 have.

024 O0 03 24 CDR CDR out.

CDR Go ahead, Bil, it's yours.

PLT Thank you.

024 O0 03 32 PLT Okay, it's the PLT, time is 00:03


and 40 seconds. And l've been
looking - Jerry's been on the recorder -
but _'ve been looking for the stars
and I don't see any. There's some-
thing in the field of view, but it
looks like green particles. And I
got the mirror extended; I don't see
a cotton picking thing. I'm dark -
dark adapted - oops, dang itl 05.
I lifted the mirror. Don't see a
thing. Have I got - am I in the
wrong time? Start 00:03. Yep. And
I don't anything in there. Looks
like field of view is blocked; I
don't see any stars. I distinctly
remember lifting the mirror, cause
I _new I was going to have to do
this. But I don't see a thing.
Gosh dang lock, Karl, for crying
out loud .... 415.6. Okay, 0006,
198.3 is b_@k at 3.2 turns counter-
cloc_Ise. 290.5, 3.2 turns counter-
clockwise, i, 2, 3, and a little
bit. 20.3. Oh, this is really a -
an agricultural approach to that.
I got some stars anyway. Now how the
devil am I going to tell which one
to use as reference star?

024 O0 07 ii PLT Let's see, which is ... Spica. Well,


let's see if I can find Corvus.
Here, we are. I saw no stars at all.
Diphd_, Canopus. Of course, Canopus

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is down there in the black hole


of Calcutta anyway. Well, I guess
that you're Just going to have to
luck out here to find these stars.
•.. What this is for, is centering
the stars. It's supposed to already
be i_ the view of field, and there's
nothing, see. And if it ain't in
the field of view, if you can't
guarantee that, then you're taking
potluck, I'm arfaid, unfortunately,
because I'm - I don't see anything
that I recognize as Corvus. Oh, I'm
going to ruin my dark adaption. I'ii
hold my hand over my eyes here, let's
see. Where sm I supposed to startT
09. The whole thing Just cocks.
198.3 and 20.3. Bill, you compromised
the whole thing by direction there.
3 minutes would have been nice, if
it was working, but you weren't
sure that it was working, so - through
the line properly, that is.

02_ 00 09 55 PLT But it's frustrating to try do a


Job here with _this piece of equipment.
Let's see. Okay, l'm going to forget
your observations, because I don't
think they're any good anyway unless
we can get this - these reference
stars. So I'm going to try to go
back to 00. Start all over again
and for - completely forget the
observing _equence. And let's see,
go back to zero zero. It's very
upsetting - try to work with this
garbs_e. Can't even _A_e a belt
drive. I don't know where zero is
now, let's see. Probably don't have
a dixeone illominated, By the way,
I 'm getting the interplay between
the TILT and ROTATION again. There
is Corona Borealis, beautiful. Spica
can't be far away. That ought to
be b¥ight. No that's Aretures,
close to Corona Borealis. You also

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don't have enough focus range


in this for my - for my eyeballs.
I got a nonstandard eye, so I can't
can't knock that.

024 O0 12 37 PLT So I'm looking at blurry stars.

024 00 14 54 PLT Okay, let's go back and see if we


can find - 15.6, TILT is probably
right, close. 290.5 and, let's see,
this is going to be Canopus, which
is not really doing us a favor be-
cause that's ... nail down that star.
There we go. Gotta keep my eye
covered here while I - okay, 290.5,
15.6.

024 00 17 02 PLT Okay, now tight now I've got 0.7


and 14.5, so I maybe wrong, but
I'm ass,_ug that's 290.7 and
14.5 if that's correct. Now,
I'm going to try to get to - let
me write that down because I 'm
supposed to voice this. 290.7 -
seven, not 2. 14.5. And that
Just doesn't seem quiet right.
And the reasonableness [sic]
test will be if I can get to
Spica from here. Okay, to
Spica 3.2 turns counterclockwise
from ROTATION 290.5. 3.2 turns
counterclockwise i, 2, 3.2. TILT,
20.3, And I'll try knocking that
down one. Okay, I'll try 3, looks
19.8 to start with. Now, let's see
if I can get anything in there that ...
hey, beautiful, beautiful. Okay, there's -
there's a bright one. Now, let's see
if I can make out - -

02_ 00 19 03 PLT I can't focus. Oh, I guess I vas


holding my.eye too close there trying
to keep the light out. Let's see now ...
rotation ... center ... Canopus
on center crosshair and voice record
ROTATION and TILT. Center Spica on
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on center crosshair, voice record


ROTATION and TILT. Doggone, I
forgot to center on the center
crosshair. Now what happened? Oh,
I need to turn the switch on, but
I - -

024 O0 20 26 PLT Okay, it's centered. Now I got to


go b_ck and get Spica - I mean Canopus.
Holding one eye shut. Okay, it's
reading 6.7. I am - certainly that's
196.7 and 20_i. Okay. l'm going
to go hack and check. I went 3.2 turns
counterclockwise, so I will go
3.2 turns clockwise, i, 2, 3. Then
I want 290.7 and 14.5. If this works
out I'll be pretty confident. Okay.
I Just can't focus this thing. There
are not enough limits to its travel.
Especially when I turn the light on.
The guy that - Got the same guy that
designed must have designed our _.
Likes to give people a handicap. Oh,
this springy quality that's Just
developed really makes it hard to
center. It keeps Jumping out of the
way when you get it over there. Okay,
therQ we go. 'Be happy with that. Now
let's see if I can got repeatability
here. 15.4. Well, that's good.
That's - that's real good. 15.4 and
I have now, 6 - no 8.5. 8.5 - 288.5.
• I hope that that's right. Now, I'm
going to try going back to Spica again.
I didn't have it centered inthe
crosshairs the first time Karl. That's
why I got this all screwed up. Okay,
3.2, turns clockwise - counterclockwise
... i, 2, 3.2, and that's 200 point
something - 200.7. I want 967.

024 00 23 49 PLT Okay, 196667 and a TILT of 20.3. Ah,


now, baby, be there. I may have been
wrong on the - - Turn this thing off.
I got that with a TILT of 20.1 ....
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bright star. Now, let's ... this


thing on ROTATION. There we go ; here
we are. Turn the RETICLE, ON now. All
right, the reason I'm doing this is I
questions repeatability because of the
spring's property. There's also a lot
of slop .... a little bit there. Well,
she's centered dead on right now. I'm
reading 6.7 - that's ahh - beautiful,
and 19.9 this time. Oke_,, I've got
what I would call qualified re -
repeatability. 19.9 • Okay. Beautiful.
Now, let's see if I can pick up one
of the ex posures. The next exposure
start at 16 - no, that's no good,
start at 22, I missed that. Start at 25,
there's our - let's see, there's
Spica, Canopus. Oh. Star rotation
is ... 165,2. Connect field 2 to
get the average of the two. Okay. Up
about 2 degrees - no l-l/2 degrees ...
l-l/2 in ROTATION. And I have to err
on the low side. Okay, their TILT,
for all practicalpurposes,is correct.
What I'ii do is Just to go 1-1/2 degrees
low on the ROTATION and, let's see
now, my Spica would be - I would go
from ... Spica. Okay, now we go -
took 2.6 turns. Now we go 0.6 turns,
so I go 2 turns total. 2.6 clockwise
and 6.6 counterclockwise makes two turns
to the clockwise. Okay, 2 turns
clockwise, i, 2, okay, and I want to
read 5.2. And I'ii - I take off
1-1/2 makes it 3,7. Okay, we're at
3.7. And the TILT should be 21.5. Man,
what a - Now, if I look in there, I
ought to see our Arcturus.

024 00 28 13 PLT Okay, here's - that sure looks like Corona


Borealis. Arctures can't be far away, but
I don't see it. Let's see, I want to -
I want to knock off i degree -
1-1/2 degrees of ROTATION. That'd
make that 163.7. Oh, I got to have
the 3 in the bottom. There we go.

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Now. Man, what a way to do that.


21.5. U_. Just lost only good
confidence builder. Just lost out ....
TILT for Arcturus is 21.5.

024 O0 32 14 PLT Okay, 21.5 again. Trouble is you


don't get a pure ROTATION here it ...
TILT in with it. How that happens,
I have no idea. Yeah, there's a
bright star. See what l've got here.
19.6 and 4.5. Well, I may have got
screwed up on my turns. Let's see now,
if I go 3.2 turns counterclockwise,
ROTATION 255 - oh, no. Okay, I went
3.2 turns too few. I - I didn't -
I didn't know that it - I thought I
was given the instruction that - the
way we've been doing this is, you put
the instructions for getting to the
next star on before you get to the -
to the procedure for it. And I didn't
see this here. 3.2 turns counterclockwise
from ROTATION - okay. From 193.8 -
I should - I shouldn't have used a 2.6.
I should have use a 0.6 turns counter-
clockwise and the 3.2 turns counterclockwise,
so that make it a total of shout 3.8 turns
oounterclockwise. And doF_one it, I
may be there. Let's see, I've got to
get back to my starting point. 15.6 and
290.5. Now you want the total of 2 turns,
i, 2, 3 and I want 290.5. Canopus,
I hope you're ... close here. Maybe
it's set already by now. Now we're at the
d/scone ... anyway .... the discone, oh,
of course, it would be out of focus.
Probably ....

024 00 36 2h PLT I believe our time's off now, too. Time


is off. So l'm afraid all this stuff is
off. In which case, we've accomplished
absolutely nothing. Yes, no exposures
and I 'm afraid the data is suspect because
of the - I was off on time while
getting the - Canopus and Spica. Well,
I 'm going to think about this.

02_ 00 37 05 PLT PLT out.

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