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Interview

Coaching Women Entrepreneurs


in India
Rajni Aggarwal, President, Federation of Indian Women Entrepreneurs

ERT: What are the most important ser- get training on manufacturing agricultur-
vices a women’s business association should al products, jewelry, and other products.
provide its members? We assist women entrepreneurs to obtain
training at these government-owned fa-
MRS. AGGARWAL: The most impor- cilities, as well as at others established by
tant service we provide is counseling be- some private companies.
cause most of the time women don’t Fourth, women often are not able to
know where to start or what kind of get the information they need to run their
enterprise they should take up. So our businesses. We provide it to them because
main thrust is to guide them towards often their involvement in family affairs is
making a decision based on their situa- so great that they do not have time or
tion; in other words, assessing the kind of they are not able to gain access to infor-
environment they are in or the kind of mation they need for their businesses. We
family support they have. Based on this also encourage them to come at least two
information we try to help them identify or three times to one of our local chapters
options and make a decision. and interact with other members. News-
Second, we try to see that most of the letters are also an important means of
women get help with the formalities providing essential information to our
required by the government and with membership. We find it useful to ask
acquiring financing. Government pur- members for different topics and ideas for
chases are important to many businesses our newsletter.
and learning how to tender offers to the
government is important to their success. ERT: How is the Federation of Indian
For example, someone may have a tailor- Women Entrepreneurs (FIWE) structured
ing shop but doesn’t know how to sell its and what are its goals?
services to the military. We try to help
them out in filling out the tenders, getting MRS. AGGARWAL: FIWE started in
their organization registered, etc. It’s a 1966 as an umbrella organization for local
form of marketing support. organizations around India. FIWE was
Training programs are another service part of the Federation of Small and Medi-
we provide. There are women running um Enterprises (FISME) but in Sep-
very small enterprises who don’t even tember 1996, we separated the two orga-
have the most basic level of business nizations, though our objectives and mis- Rajni Aggarwal is also secre-
know-how. In India, the Ministry of In- sion remain the same. FIWE doesn’t pro- tary general of the Inter-
dustry has established the Small Indus- mote direct membership except from national Federation of Women
tries’ Institute that has facilities in all the New Delhi where no local group has been Entrepreneurs.
major cities where women (and men) can formed yet.

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There was a reason for the separation. shops, beauty parlors, printing facilities to
We felt that since we were a part of a larg- steel manufacture.
er organization, we were unable to work
independently on certain issues which are ERT: How important is it for women’s
very important to women. After so many business associations to play an advocacy
years in existence, FIWE did not even role before government bodies, both legisla-
have its own offices or permanent staff. tive and executive?
But we still work together with FISME.
Now that FIWE is a separate organiza- MRS. AGGARWAL: This point was
tion, its principal goal is to foster the eco- recognized sometime in 1993. Everyone
nomic empowerment of women by help- felt we are working successfully on a local
ing them to become successful entrepre- basis, but that we had no say at the

The main objective for FIWE


is to interact with national
government policymakers so that
they understand the needs
of women entrepreneurs.

neurs. Another objective is to bring wo- national government policy level. Now
men business persons together to voice the main objective for FIWE is to interact
their needs and demands in such a way with national government policymakers
that government enacts policies beneficial so that they understand the needs of
to their interests. women entrepreneurs, and these needs
are at the grassroots level.
ERT: What types of members does FIWE I wouldn’t claim that we have achieved
have now? major changes on this front thus far. But I
feel that as we continue to work we’ll be
MRS. AGGARWAL: Our membership able to bring about some of them, possi-
is varied. FIWE as a whole has approxi- bly by 1998. Given that we have more
mately 10,000 members coming from the membership applications and more of
17 local associations that are affiliated our programs have been useful to individ-
with it. (Their membership in turn varies uals and local groups, the government
anywhere from 350 to 2,000 members.) will have to realize that women entrepre-
Small-scale entrepreneurs account for neurs must be involved at the policy level.
approximately 60% of our combined There has been some progress. At a
membership, large ones represent 15%, recent OECD meeting, I was pleased to
and cottage and micro entrepreneurs report that, with the help of the Finance
comprise the remainder. They work in a Ministry, FIWE was able to get women
wide gamut of sectors, from tailoring entrepreneurs on the boards of all of

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India’s major financial institutions, gov- now require that women entrepreneurs
ernment agencies, purchasing organiza- raise a smaller percentage of the capital
tions, and corporations. As a result, in the they need. If a man is starting a business,
future the needs and requirements of he has to have a funding ratio of 1 to 3;
women-owned businesses are more likely that is, he must put up one rupee for
to be taken into consideration. Of course, every three he obtains from the banks.
due to the fast political changes India has But in the case of women, they must put
witnessed in the last two years we’ve expe- up just 10% and can obtain financing for
rienced some loss of continuity. However, the remaining 90%. The only limitation is
I feel that if we follow up persistently we that this kind of credit can be given only
will achieve other objectives by next year. to very small businesses. Still, this is a very
positive change.
ERT: How do you see FIWE’s mission There are two major problems that
developing in the future? What role would need to be resolved. First, the commercial
you like to see the organization play over banks have failed to provide concession-
the next five to ten years? ary interest rates to women-owned busi-
nesses. The government defines such
MRS. AGGARWAL: I would like FIWE businesses as those in which women hold
to become a stronger organization which at least 51% of the equity and 51% of all
can work on all important issues related the jobs.
to women entrepreneurs. Interaction with The second issue is that the Bank of
policymakers should occur on a regular India and the government have defined
basis, so that at any point in time they are small-scale enterprises as those having a
aware of our organization and the inter- capital of up to 10 million rupees.
ests it represents. They should really con-
sider the viewpoints of our association
when making any kind of policy affecting
women entrepreneurs. I think the ap-
proach we are taking will support this
kind of advocacy.
Our leadership is very keen to
strengthen FIWE. The 20 members of the
Executive Committee, our principal gov-
erning body, are in constant touch with
each other and regularly contact and
write to national ministers about key
issues of concern to our members. We
also have a steering committee which
basically functions as the New Delhi
chapter, and it focuses on helping to solve
the problems that our members face in
that city.

ERT: How big an issue is financing for


women entrepreneurs? How do you effec- Associations should interact with policymakers frequently.
tively channel women entrepreneurs into
mainstream financing channels? Because 10 million rupees is much
more than the capital of most small
MRS. AGGARWAL: The government enterprises, most of the commercial bank
has granted several concessions that bene- credit continues to go to the larger com-
fit women entrepreneurs. For example, panies in this range. We have tried to
the Small Industries Development Bank bring this point to their attention.
of India and state-level government banks However, since changes only occur gradu-

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ally we are allowing some time for the devise special credit programs for small
government to formulate new directives women business owners.
on this issue to banks and other financial
institutions. ERT: Does that keep them from being
On the other hand, the government is able to do business or do they find other
not inclined at all to give any kind of con- channels to get funding?
cession to women in medium and large
scale businesses. The general negative atti- MRS. AGGARWAL: Thus far they
tude which used to exist is, however, less don’t really have many financing channels
apparent now because many women who available. In fact, two of the new pro-
grams we are thinking about for our
organization are to start a business center
for the promotion of women-owned
businesses and to establish a bank for wo-
men. The Secretary of Small-scale Indus-
As long as try, the Secretary of Women and Child
Development, and the secretaries of other
the objectives departments are all very keen on our
of international organization establishing such a banking
program. It is possible we will undertake
women’s it, but right now I feel that it is too early
associations are for us to do it. Maybe after five or six
months, we will be in a better position to
the same, we consider it.
should work There are other ways in which FIWE
can help women entrepreneurs. Every
together and bank in India has failed to promote entre-
really become preneurship among women. Through our
organization, we can help bridge the gap.
more effective For women entrepreneurs who cannot
together. approach the banks directly, we try to
work like a bridge for them.

ERT: Are you able to determine which


women have good business plans and are
the best candidates to apply to the banks for
loans?
have come into medium and large com-
panies have automatically become part of MRS. AGGARWAL: I find that out of
the mainstream. In other words, they are fifty women who approach us, only fif-
being treated as industrialists, not as teen are genuinely interested in starting a
women entrepreneurs per se. business. The rest of them are simply
While women in medium and large forced by their husbands to go forward in
industries have no problem obtaining order to get some benefits from the gov-
commercial credit, cottage, micro and ernment. But if we see a woman entrepre-
small-scale enterprises are really facing a neur who really knows what she is talking
lot of problems. Women in these sectors about—and that it’s not just that her hus-
are having a hard time to get access to band wants her to go into business—we’ll
credit. For this reason, since the OECD do what we can to help her request a loan.
forum on women entrepreneurs earlier Initially we were making mistakes by for-
this year, we have decided that a key pri- warding every application to the banks,
ority for FIWE in the near future is to and the banks would say many of the
work more with commercial banks to applicants were not genuine entrepre-

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neurs. As a result, we now have become ERT: Is there a role for international
strict about making sure that we assist organizations in promoting the interests of
only those women who are genuinely women business owners worldwide?
interested in establishing a business.
When we have a finance-related meet- MRS. AGGARWAL: As our organiza-
ing or workshop we invite bankers to be tion realized that globalization has really
both speakers and participants. Credit become an undeniable reality, we thought
financing is the main subject of almost that it was time that we came together
90% of our seminars, so the inclusion of and started working on it. We already had
bankers increases their awareness of the the India-Pakistan joint business council
problems facing women entrepreneurs, of women entrepreneurs and we were also
and they in turn can establish personal interacting with Indonesia and other
contacts with the bankers. It is also im- countries. So we decided to form an inter-
portant that FIWE has been able to estab- national federation. The presidents of the
lish a good record with all the banks. national associations of eight countries—
Pakistan, Nigeria, Indonesia, Malaysia, In-
ERT: Once you’ve made a match be- dia, China, Korea and Australia—founded
tween a bank and an entrepreneur, does the this international federation called the In-
entrepreneur become responsible directly to ternational Federation of Women Entre-
the bank for payments and for any other preneurs (IFWE).
credit issues that arise? The sixth international conference of
IFWE is coming up soon in Accra, Ghana.
MRS. AGGARWAL: Yes. Once the loan This is very important because these con-
is approved, the entrepreneur deals di- ferences are the only opportunities in
rectly with the bank. However, the banks which we can get to know what is hap-
do report to us informally on how the pening outside our countries. IFWE has
borrowers we presented to them are really played a very important role in the
doing. I have seen that 99% of women are internationalization of women entrepre-
very conscientious about their credit neurship, and I feel that this effort is
obligations, and they have been very regu- spreading its wings now that Africa has
lar in repaying them. Maybe one percent become a part of it and Japan has come
of the women face some problem such as forward as well. As long as our objectives
a temporary financial crunch and then are the same, we should come together,
have to make some kind of new repay- we should work together, and we should
ment arrangement with the bank. But really become more effective together.
most of the enterprises have no problem.

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